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Brandis 05-07-2014 11:01 PM

Annoyed...just...annoyed
 
Why is this fat so persistent? I usually lose weight pretty fast. Not so much this time. My unofficial restart was on April 11th. I had cut back on the eating the week before, but nothing like a real commitment. That week, I went down 5 lbs(fluid). Nothing since then. Nada. No scale budge (on either scale), no change in measurements, perhaps a slight, and do I mean slight loosening in some clothes (1 pair of pants). I am weighing and measuring every darned thing I eat, I am exercising 4-6 (varies) times per week (strenuously lifting weights and doing cardio). I am always at or well below calories for the day. I am eating good quality foods. I do not have underlying hormonal issues(to my knowledge- all blood work has always been fine). I haven't even so much as wanted to cheat, so I didn't. Not once.

I know eventually if I hang on long enough, I should see something. How long should I wait before considering this a plateau? Can you even call it a plateau if you didn't lose anything to begin with? May 11th will be officially one month. Stories? Encouragement? Suggestions? :?: DIE FAT DIE!!!!!!! I thought maybe I need to cut out the majority of carbs (I average about 100-150g/day now) and go low carb for awhile? Maybe I don't need to change anything and just wait some more? I just thought I would see something by now, just a pound even.

mars735 05-07-2014 11:19 PM

That's got to be discouraging!!! Have you noticed your clothes fitting more loosely? How about taking a baseline waist measurement and tracking it each week? That's more telling than the fickle scale.

Going low carb sure made me lose weight faster. You might try staying under 100g, while maintaining total calories with added protein and some fat. Increasing fiber and water might help too. you could gradually lower the carbs if 100g doesn't get things moving. Under about 50g/day is ketogenic, but you need not be that low to lose weight.

Hang in there--it's going to happen.

Sasha29 05-07-2014 11:21 PM

I had the same thing happen when I started doing HIIT and lifting weights. I didn't lose a pound, didn't lose inches, nothing. From reading other forums, it seems like it's a common problem. It could be that your muscles are swelling a bit. You probably are retaining more water because you are lifting. And it could be diet related. Most people that experience this say that they see no change for the first month or so, and then all of the sudden they start losing inches, if not pounds.

mars735 05-07-2014 11:23 PM

I like Sasha's comment. Maybe best to wait a little longer before tweaking your carbs.

Mrs Snark 05-08-2014 10:45 AM

Just want to offer encouragement to keep up the good work! The changes will happen! :)

Brandis 05-08-2014 10:49 AM

I love lifting and doing intervals, so I think I am going to wait a little while and see what happens. I could believe there could be some muscle swelling and water retention, because I am sore every time I work out! Unfortunately, the measurements I took are the same, and only one pair of pants I have fits a tiny bit looser. But my husband says I look skinnier and he swears he can put his arms around me further. I think he's just being nice. :p I have a lot of other benefits that came from my changes, so I am just going to keep it up and hope my body catches up with my dedication sooner or later.

luckymommy 05-08-2014 11:02 AM

How many calories are you eating and how much do you weigh, if you don't mind me asking?

mars735 05-08-2014 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrs Snark (Post 5000435)
Just want to offer encouragement to keep up the good work! The changes will happen! :)

I second this! You are doing great. That weight loss on the scale is so validating that we all like to see those results as soon as possible as a reward for the hard work. Think "delayed gratification", and for now, enjoy the benefits you might already be experiencing, like feeling mentally sharper? better self-esteem and confidence? stronger? etc. :cp::cp::cp:

Brandis 05-08-2014 11:52 AM

I am 185 according to one scale and 191 according to the other. My MFP tells me to stay at 1800, but I never even reach 1800. Most days I am 15-1600, and yesterday I had 1400. I just couldn't eat any more food- full. I eat proteins (chicken, steak, tuna, salmon, turkey-lean meats mostly), fat from olive oil and coconut oil to cook and dress salads with, some butter, very little vegetable oil, some legumes, some fruit (less than 2 servings per day, usually a small apple or some berries, sometimes grapefruit), some dairy (milk with protein shake after lifting and 1/2 cup cottage cheese or greek yogurt) and lots of vegetables every day. I usually eat eggs with 1/8th or 1/4 cup steel cut oats for breakfast (with chia and flax-no sugar added, sometimes pumpkin), salmon or some other protein with a carb like 1/2 cup brown rice or quinoa or beans if I am going to exercise heavy for lunch, veggies if not, same kind of thing for dinner omitting carb heavy grains or potatoes, usually just a green salad. I haven't been eating any bread or pasta, save 2 pieces Ezekiel bread(did not agree with me), because I think I am probably addicted to this stuff. I also don't put sauces on my meats or any other foods. I will have the piece(s) of fruit with cottage cheese or yogurt in between as a snack if I am hungry or to make up some calories. I also sometimes add another shake in I didn't get quite enough calories.

xopeaceandlovexo 05-08-2014 12:16 PM

My fat is persistent too Brandis!!!! I have been exercising for 5 weeks now and I started my healthy eating the first of March. I've lost about 13lbs total, but since I started exercising I've only gone down 2.5 lbs. And that .5 is important to me to add in there yet its not even a whole pound!! haha. I am in school to be a diet tech so I know I have my food down, not perfect by any means, but I know I eat a balanced diet. So what gives???? Who knows! I am currently still waiting to see better results so we can ride that boat together!! But now I am just going to give it the rest of this month before changing things up :?:
Trying to focus on how much better I feel and improving my strength and fitness while I wait to see the scale drop! Keep up the good work, hard work WILL pay off eventually..thats what my boyfriend keeps telling me anyway and I have to agree!

Brandis 05-08-2014 06:11 PM

I agree. Hard work has to pay off. If I am burning more than I take in over a long period of time, it HAS to come off. It's that simple. Besides that, I just worked out like a BEAST and left the gym completely disgusting and covered in sweat...it was awesome!!!!!

Pattience 05-08-2014 06:54 PM

I like Sasha's comment too. Be patient. The fat is going. You are building muscle and probably just retaining more water. Be Patient. You are doing the right things. Have faith.

Maybe stay off the scale for a while. Because your program is so tight, you know you are doing the right things, enjoy the feeling of building your fitness sand eating good food and stay off the scale. Just trust that its working.

I am sure it is.

luckymommy 05-08-2014 10:27 PM

My view here may not be popular, but I would aim for 1400-1600 calories and not go to 1800. For me 1800 would be the exception and the other numbers would be the usual amount, especially if you're not hungry. You might try calorie cycling (sorry if anyone has brought that up already). It sounds like you're committed to your goals, which is great. People who lose 1-2 lbs. a week are really the exception and not the rule. Shows like The Biggest Loser give the impression that weight just melts off our bodies but that's not how it is for the majority. Hang in there and you'll reap even more benefits over time.

Brandis 05-08-2014 10:54 PM

I just looked at my MFP account and my calories only went to 1800 one day over the last month(during PMS time, go figure). The rest of the days range anywhere from just over 1000 to 1500, with 1400-1500 being the norm. I made a post about actually wondering if I was eating enough, but I decided I am not worried about it because I am not really hungry unless it's time for a meal. It looks like I am already cycling my calories without trying, because it varies pretty much every day.
I am definitely ok with a slower loss. I really would just like to see something that reflects the effort I am putting in. Especially since this isn't my first rodeo, and I usually lose weight without having to think about it too hard. This long without a loss of any weight is highly unusual for me. Anything. Looser clothes, smaller measurements. I am clinging tight to my fitness gains and improved energy, because that's what I have for right now! I am not giving up!!!!!!

luckymommy 05-08-2014 11:52 PM

I really feel for you...it sounds like you're doing everything right. It was just hard to tell with limited info, so thanks for sharing your plan. Also, eating more at time of the month is to be expected because most women experience a drop in seretonin levels around PMS and that increases our cravings for carbs since that's what the body uses to make seretonin. I envy men for not having to deal with this every month! ;) Also, you mentioned that you lost 5 lbs. initially. Those never came back, right? Well, if you initially just lost water, then your body started retaining water from workouts, it's possible that now your body has lost 5 lbs. of fat but it's not noticeable on the scale. I hope this makes sense. Anyway, I really believe you're doing everything you can. I think a lot of people give up on their healthier life styles because they don't see enough change compared to the hard work. Just keep in mind that it took a while to gain the weight and it takes even longer to get it off. Wouldn't it be nice if it were the other way around?

IanG 05-08-2014 11:58 PM

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I envy men for not having to deal with this every month!
I gain every Tuesday. It's my man cycle. I'd love to be monthly.

If you want serotonin, do what I do and eat canned fish.

luckymommy 05-09-2014 12:15 AM

Interesting what you say about men...or at least you...so I guess I'll just accept the monthly thing after all. ;)

Have you read some research that eating canned fish helps with serotonin or is it just your own experience? Just wondering, if you don't mind sharing. Thanks!

Pattience 05-09-2014 02:35 AM

Given you are 5'9 you could easily increase your calories then. Except I don't know what you weigh at the moment but i'd suspect an increase might be a good idea. 1400-1500 is very low.

Remember i was losing at 1600 pretty steadily with no exercise from my start weight to about 152 or so. And i'm only 5'.4,5".

Brandis 05-12-2014 05:52 PM

Ian- I do eat canned tuna several times a week. I I also eat fresh fish that my husband and I catch, which includes mackerel, a known fatty fish, as well as salmon that I buy. I am having a fresh from the sea Flounder tonight! I just can't gag down any small whole bony type with guts in fish..... I just can't do it.

I decided yesterday that I am going to raise my calories and see what happens. Maybe, just maybe, I am not eating enough? I don't know. It will at least be a little break for me to see if it works, and if not, I will go back down. I don't think it will be too hard to increase if I add more fruit or legumes or nuts in. Maybe it will be good to have a little time away form being so strict. I am still going to log it all, I am just going to eat a little more. Here goes...

sumu1 05-26-2014 04:42 PM

I had to add this only because I've been on a plateau for 6 months. I went from 182 to 146 in 6 months and then spent 6 months floating up and down 2 lbs. I've been trying to be philosophical about it. Taking time to get used to my "newish" body. But the truth is I'm also annoyed. I've never, in all my attempts, reached my goal weight. Usually I get to this weight 145ish and I'm in a size 6-8 and I can "live with it". Well fate is cruel. At my age all my weight gain is in my apple shaped lower body, namely my stomach. So I made it this far but I can't fit into ANY of my smaller clothes. All the shirts are tight over my abs and I can't zip a damn thing up. So I've had to actually admit to myself that almost isn't gonna cut it anymore, getting to my goal weight is the only option. I've had to shave 100-200 calories off my day and add the same in exercise. Keep going. Is almost comforting knowing that getting to goal is the only option because gaining back the 36 I lost just ain't gonna happen. I don't care if it takes me another year to do it :-). Sorry I rambled a bit...but keep going!!!!!

Pattience 05-26-2014 06:18 PM

Sumu, i think if you can read the books by Dr Amanda Sainsbury-Salis you might understand why you are stuck at 145. She explains it better in the second book but the first book is important if you are not familiar with the scientific concepts she talks about.

Essentially she might say that 145 is probably your bodies "ideal weight". Forcing yourself to go below might only cause a regrettable rebound. However i know until you are convinced of this you are not likely to take my word for it. I know it might be a tough truth to come to terms with so i'll just say this. if you do get below and find you can't stay there, maybe then you could accept that 146 is your ideal weight.

She also talks about the measurements of your waist and hip. If the ratio of your waist to hip i.e. 0.8 and under, you are healthy. If not you are at greater risk of metabolic disease. This is critical for you because of your apple shaped figure.


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