ditto to everything. I definitely miss eating loads of crappy but delicious food. :hug:

Originally Posted by stimkovs:

i want like, 1294823 calories of pizza, followed by a pint of ice cream, followed by a oreo cheesecake, and maybe some mozza sticks.

moderation does work for me. but i'm just sick of "moderating". i just want greasy things, in or around my face, as they say. ha ha



i miss those meals.

Originally Posted by kellost:
It's just...this is hard on us, because obviously we have issues with food. I think it will always be hard. Hard, but not impossible. It's gonna take a lifelong commitment to beat this thing. Like an alcoholic, really. I don't think there is a "cure", there is only you being committed to staying healthy despite your food desires.

This is SO true! And unfortunatley those of us who are addicted to food (myself included for sure) cannot simply stop eating or else we'd die, whereas those who are addicted to drugs or alcohol are physically capable of living without those substances.

I completely understand the desire to way overindulge in "bad" foods - I have that too. I'll eat those foods, but I keep them within my caloric budget. I figure that although I can't eat as much as I'd like to, at least I can still eat what I want. It's a compromise that I have to make with myself, because all or nothing approaches don't work for me.

Originally Posted by stimkovs:
I know my stomach has shrunk and I wont be able to eat what I could before, but I genuinely MISS greasy foods, and NO i don't want to make a "healthified" version. I want the foods. i want to find the moderation, and i want to find the balance in it.

This. When people talk about making a pizza with a tortilla, an ounce of low fat cheese, and vegetables, I think - no f***ing way is that a pizza. I don't eat a full pizza anymore but I'll happily spend 350 calories on a little Celeste pizza that actually tastes like pizza.

I too miss food. I miss eating lots of stuff all the time. What I don't miss is feeling bloated and being fat. And I have found that, even on the infrequent occasions when I overeat, I can't eat nearly as much as I used to before feeling uncomfortably full. So that's a good thing; it makes me acknowledge that the rewards of compulsively overeating (the numbing, soothing, anxiety-smothering that I get from it) aren't enough to overcome the negative aspects of it.

I sincerely hope I've never given the impression that I love clean eating or don't wish I could eat my favorite fast foods, candy bars, full fat and sugar mochas, and all that good stuff.

I'm sure in moods of particular smugness I have perhaps claimed to have no cravings for such awful things now that I have "seen the light"; I just hope I never put it in writing, because it isn't so!

I'm with some of you though, I don't want 9 doritos (or whatever stupid small size the actual serving is), I want the whole bag. And truly a lot of times I will abstain all together because it kind of p!sses me off to not be able to eat my fill of whatever delicious food I want.

I don't know if I will ever be able to savor food; like truly enjoy that small sliver of cheesecake without thinking "but it would only be better if I could have MORE".

Sometimes it really scares me to think I may never have a normal relationship with food. Or have the capability of being one of those intuative eaters I envy so much. I always just have to tell myself that EVERYONE has their struggle(s), and that I am probably fairly easy off having my issue be with food. I tell myself that a lot, I don't always believe it though.

Originally Posted by LockItUp:
I don't know if I will ever be able to savor food; like truly enjoy that small sliver of cheesecake without thinking "but it would only be better if I could have MORE".

Depending on my frame of mind and how much I've eaten I have been able to enjoy a small sliver of cake, or just one piece of a chocolate bar or a serving of chips with a sandwich.

But then there are days where I want not one but four slices of pizza AND chicken wings AND dessert! I suppose it just gets easier as time goes on to figure out when you should give in and when you should let it go. :)

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I don't know if it will help you or not, but when having those cravings (and I have them a lot!) I say to myself, "I'll have it later." If I go out to eat, I'll say, "wow this 5000 calorie pizza looks awesome, I'll have it next time I'm here."

It's somewhat mental trickery that says you're not saying no, you're just saying not now. Sometimes later manages to show up, but many times it doesn't.

Originally Posted by Steph7409:

I too miss food. I miss eating lots of stuff all the time. What I don't miss is feeling bloated and being fat. And I have found that, even on the infrequent occasions when I overeat, I can't eat nearly as much as I used to before feeling uncomfortably full. So that's a good thing; it makes me acknowledge that the rewards of compulsively overeating (the numbing, soothing, anxiety-smothering that I get from it) aren't enough to overcome the negative aspects of it.

^^ this.
exactly this. twice.


sometimes i go nuts and feel like i ate EVERYTHING, but then i look at it, in comparison to what i used to eat before, and it's like, a little drop in the ocean. that is great.

another benefit? Sometimes, i don't need the whole cheesecake, i don't need the whole pizza, i don't need the whole, whatever ____(insert terrible food here). sometimes, i just need a bite, and i am fully satisfied.

i mean, i know the law of diminishing returns- basic economics- the pleasure derived decreases with every single serving/peice/bite/whatever. that's the PLEASURE derived from food- but sometimes, i want that greasy, bloaty, lethargic feeling- is that terrible or what?

it's nice to see that other people experience the same inner BATTLES as well though. thank you for sharing <3 :carrot: