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I'm sure there was muscle loss there too...I always thought exercise was vital in losing weight and keeping it off (along with healthy eating)...

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Originally Posted by Mer du Japon (Post 4435081)

Okay. I suppose I should clarify. For ME it is not what I consider exercise. I have walked 20 minutes each way to work daily for years, long before trying to lose weight. For ME I consider exercise to be hitting the gym. For ME I consider breaking a sweat as exercise.

It's important that we all have a better, and more common definition of exercise, otherwise with everyone having their own definition of exercise, the answers are almost meaningless.

It's as if someone asked "Do cats make good pets?" If we're all talking and thinking about house kitties, the answers are probably going to include a whole lot more yesses, than if some of us are thinking of lions, tigers, leopards and cougars.

We all have a right TO personal definitions, but it makes communication extremely difficult.

Before we can have a productive discussion on the value exercise we ALL have to agree on what exercise IS.

Maybe if I can get my slinky black cat to lift, he could become a panther.

Kaplods, you make a very good point about agreeing on the definition of exercise. It looks like it might be different for different people.

For me, I had to start somewhere. I have been completely sedentary for several years, and I am an older woman, so I set as my goal to walk a mile three times a week. Somewhere I read that this is an acceptable amount of exercise for "health". It took me a while to be able to do this, but now I can.

So exercise for me, because you can't deny that my walking is exercise, is different from exercise for Mer du Japon. I am starting with less exercise than she has been doing forever. We have different fitness levels.

I think maybe the crux is that each of us needs to be doing some activity that challenges us. Some of us are up to bigger challenges than others. My longer term goal is to get up to walking two miles three or more times a week. I think that will be pretty good for me, but still below what Mer is already doing.

Any movement really is exercise. Taking the stairs is exercise, walking from the far end of the parking lot is exercise, walking around the mall is exercise, chasing your kids is exercise.

The difference is what it does for each of us. If you're just looking to not be out of breath playing with your kids, then the above is enough. If you're looking to run a 5k then obviously it is not.

Our fitness levels are all different. Don't dismiss someone's exercise because it doesn't seem like exercise to you.

For example: the wii fit is much too easy for me. To me it is not a workout, but I'm not about to scoff at someone using it to get a little activity into their life!

Yeah, but I'd rather do both at the same time. It's more rewarding to be able to lift stuff and run around and not get out of breath taking the stairs.

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Originally Posted by novangel (Post 4435218)

"Exercise is actually terrible for weight loss" :?: My avatar shows otherwise. That's terrible advice. If you don't want to exercise that's fine but don't make up false information to validate not wanting to work out.

It's one thing to lose 30-100p without exercise but losing the last 7-10p is extremely difficult. I guess it all depends on the person's goal weight and how healthy/fit you want to be in the end. Diet without exercise will never get me to where I want to go.

where are you getting that quote from? just wondering...

I think you guys are kinda blowing what I said a tad bit out of proportion but oh well

"I think it's best to really concentrate on your eating and just do light workouts like take a walk lift some light weights just do fun things like swimming get outside more have fun but don't overdo the exercise whenever I do I end up starving and then giving into eating bad and undo all the weight I lost when I was just taking it easy and eating good."

that is actually what I said

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Originally Posted by going2bskinny (Post 4436505)

where are you getting that quote from? just wondering...

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Originally Posted by Expunge (Post 4434681)

Exercise is actually terrible for weight loss.

When taken out of context this quote makes the poster look silly but Expunge actually made a really good post but they probably stopped reading after the first sentance...

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Originally Posted by JohnP (Post 4436703)

When taken out of context this quote makes the poster look silly but Expunge actually made a really good post but they probably stopped reading after the first sentance...

Oh ok thanks John ... Yeah it really is true diet has much more to do with it than exercise that's what I was doing wrong for so many years wish someone had told me that sooner.

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Originally Posted by Expunge (Post 4434681)

Exercise is actually terrible for weight loss. The amount of effort it takes to burn even minimal calories is so disproportionate to how easy it is to just eat less. This video is an excellent example of why:

http://youtu.be/UQbuzsY_34Q

It's totally possible to lose any weight you want to lose without ever taking a single step, much less intentionally exercising.

That said, what exercise is good for is sculpting your body and building muscle. When you lose weight, you're not just losing fat - you're also losing water and lean muscle mass. Exercising properly while losing can help to prevent losing quite as much muscle mass - this means that the scale often goes down much more slowly, since you're not losing the water/lean mass that contributes to the total, but the end result is much better. The more lean mass you have, the higher your resting metabolic rate, and the more calories you will be able to eat while maintaining weight - which makes keeping the weight off easier, since you've got more room to work with. And there's a huge aesthetic difference between someone who's 140lbs and 35% body fat and someone the same weight and height who's 15-20% body fat.

This is a great link that really illustrates how muscle mass impacts how your body looks:

http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2011...ng-super-hero/

Now, even if you don't want to lift heavy and get super cut like the person above, you can still see the difference. It takes an enormous amount of work to get to her level, it won't happen accidentally.

And it's also critical for good health, as has been shown time after time in study after study. The more activity, the better - not just exercise, but movement throughout the day in general. Obese people who start exercising moderately can experience dramatic improvements in health markers even if they don't lose a single pound. Exercise is really really good for you. But it doesn't have to be in a gym, it doesn't even have to be structured - it can be any activity you really enjoy doing. It's better to do something less "effective" than to do nothing at all!

Wow thanks for that link its the best info I have seen and in gonna give that paleo diet a try it sounds great!!

When I started back in March I did begin exercising - I walked at the park it an hour + on weekends, and every night at home I did 30 minutes to an hour of resistance bands & mini trampoline, along with stretches sit ups etc. Did it for about a month and I lost 10lbs (coupled with 1230 calories a day). Then it got SUPER HOT here and even with AC it's just too hot and it made me absolutely miserable to be so hot so I cut it out after that - I'm down 41lbs in 5 months still by really just eating better.

With that said I will be picking up te exersize again when it's cooler. There's just no way I'm doing it when it's 110+ and I brake a sweat from just being alive. :| as soon as it hits low 80s again, which should be soon, I'll at least pick up the indoor exersizes again.

Good links expunge...especially the second one. Really showed what lifting can do for you! That's what I'm trying to accomplish now. I was lifting light, now trying to up the weight.
I didn't exercise at first. I couldn't, I was too big, joints hurt too much. But I still lost a ton of weight without it. I felt so much better when I finally did start to walk on treadmill, then jog now running! Added in lifting. I feel so much better with exercise! I'm strong. I'm fit. I used to get out of breath just walking, now it takes a lot, like running, to get my heart rate up.