I'm not trying to open up a can of worms here. I just want to point out that women have different needs than men.
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Originally Posted by JohnP
Hmmm? I'll admit I've very curious here. Aside from iron and perhaps protein I'm really not sure where men and women have different nutritional needs?
It's not a huge difference, but women do have different needs than men.
Caloric needs, of course, are different between men and women (sometimes just in terms of size, sometimes not) but because of our hormones and how they regulate our bodies, a low carb diet or diet high in soy can mess with that. This is individual of course, but it can mean the temporary loss of fertility for a woman. IF can also effect women differently than men (in that a woman might stop getting her period depending on how she fasts)
There are a number of women who go Paleo or Primal and find that they stop having their periods. They are confused because sometimes they feel the best they ever have, but are not getting their periods. Even if they're not planning on having children, it's a pretty big problem. While we complain out the wazoo about our cycles, they're pretty important for our health. It could be a combination of different things (too low carb, too little fat, too much soy, etc.), but it's something I rarely see addressed outside of women-specific sites.
We hear CARBS ARE BAD all the time, when in reality some women might need them.
Also, if a woman was overweight when she began menstruating, it's entirely possible she'll have to choose a higher weight than another woman. She can still lose weight, but her body may require a bit more extra fat than a woman who was never overweight. She may have to stay at around 24% body fat rather than trying to shoot for a low enough body fat to get a six pack, for example. This is certainly something men don't have to worry about
For women, most advise us to lose weight by cutting calories and doing lots of cardio (I certainly know you're not one of them! yay weights!). We see low carb diets or other diets without discussion on how they can change around our hormones, etc. Women's bodies are very complicated and a slight change can really cause havoc and impact our health.
Most of this comes from me getting annoyed about not finding much information on women-specific weight training and muscle building advice. Even my favorite sites write articles that are clearly written with men in mind and then try to appeal to women as well by adding two sentences at the end. I don't mind if a whole article is written for a man, but don't make a poor attempt to cater to women by tacking us on as an afterthought
The principle is the same of course (eat at a surplus to gain muscle, etc.) but I'm sure if a woman tries to gain a couple pounds of muscle a month that it's just not going to work the way it would for a man.
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Originally Posted by Vex
I've always thought that men in general needed more calories to maintain weight then women. Maybe it's just that most men are larger than women and therefore need more calories. Maybe I'm just flat out wrong!
I would also think that pregnant women definitely have different nutritional needs than men
I'd actually be curious to know if the calorie thing is really true.
Oh yes, nursing and pregnant woman definitely have different needs.
The calorie thing is certainly true, sometimes because of size and sometimes not. Men just have more muscle mass than we do and build it much easier than we do.
I'm really referring to low carb diets. I've been exploring how they specifically affect women ever since failing epically at going below 50g per day for an extended period of time—not because I couldn't stick to it, but because my body was reacting terribly to it.
We also have different needs, in general, because our bodies are set up to have children. We hate our periods but they are pretty important to our health.
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Originally Posted by Kayriel
I also read that intermittent fasting can affect men and women differently as it can be more stressful to the female body. (See this post and this post).
Honestly though it probably does come back to your personal body and paying attention to your body cues. If your body isn't responding well to something after the intial shock has worn off (e.g. feeling depressed, no periods, lethargy), then change it. My elder sister tried to go very low carbs and found herself depressed even after 2 weeks so added some back in while I've had no problem with depression with cutting carbs except for once a week.
Oh yes, it's entirely individual. Some women will do fine cutting carbs and others will do fine with IF. I think it's worth it to explore how these diets affect women though, because for a lot of women it can be upsetting when something doesn't "work" that seemingly works for everyone else. It would be comforting for them to know that certain diets may not be ideal for women and they should try something else.
We're told to be a certain "ideal" and when we have trouble meeting that ideal it can be very upsetting for a woman. So not only are the nutritional needs of women different, the mental needs are as well.