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tricon7 06-19-2012 09:33 AM

Any thoughts on Xenadrine for appetite control?
 
Has anyone tried the diet pill Xenadrine for appetite control? A co-worker said it helped him control his cravings, and I wanted to get some more feedback. I would not depend solely on it to lose weight, of course - just to give me that extra push beyond my current dieting and exercise (which had me lose a grand total of eight ounces in one month).

mammasita 06-19-2012 09:42 AM

I've taken it in the past. It didn't really control my cravings, but it did give me a bit of an energy boost as well as some jittery-ness.

I personally wouldn't recommend it and would never do it again. You can always look into natural herbs and vitamins to give you the boost you're looking for.

B-12, Sam-e.....good stuff.

tricon7 06-19-2012 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mammasita (Post 4376331)
I've taken it in the past. It didn't really control my cravings, but it did give me a bit of an energy boost as well as some jittery-ness.

I personally wouldn't recommend it and would never do it again. You can always look into natural herbs and vitamins to give you the boost you're looking for.

B-12, Sam-e.....good stuff.

Well, I'm not looking for a boost. I'm looking for an appetite control measure if such a thing exists over-the-counter.

Daki 06-19-2012 11:17 AM

It did control my appetite but I also got jittery and it made me feel weak. I did not like how I felt on it, so I stopped half way through the bottle.

ValRock 06-19-2012 11:31 AM

Have you tried Cinnamon? It's great for appetite control and blood sugar regulation. You can find it pretty much anywhere, in the suppliment aisle.

seagirl 06-19-2012 12:27 PM

I find exercise to be a wonderful appetite control!

Arctic Mama 06-19-2012 01:23 PM

I mentioned this in other threads, though it wasnt what you wanted to hear. If appetite control and cravings are your issue, starch and sugar are your problems. They cause real, physiological changes in your hormonal response to food that makes you want more of it, and more frequently. Slowly digesting, low-insulin-spiking foods are where it is at for eating comfortably and with no cravings on restricted calories. I can eat 2500 calories of mostly carbs and still be hungry, with rolling cravings throughout the day. On the other hand, I can eat 1400 calories of low starch/sugar/carb food and be full and satisfied for HOURS, with zero cravings throughout the day.

A chemical supplement isn't your issue, your current diet is! You are unwilling to fix it and yet regularly bemoaning the problems it is causing you with slow scale movement, hunger, cravings, etc. The truth is that these issues are entirely fixable, and with a fair bit of ease, but if you aren't ready or willing to do so then asking us to constantly suggest fixes FOR you is a waste of time.

If hunger and cravings are your problem, knowing your diet and weight, the types of foods you are eating is the cause and solution. It's that simple.

tricon7 06-19-2012 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Mama (Post 4376591)
I mentioned this in other threads, though it wasnt what you wanted to hear. If appetite control and cravings are your issue, starch and sugar are your problems. They cause real, physiological changes in your hormonal response to food that makes you want more of it, and more frequently. Slowly digesting, low-insulin-spiking foods are where it is at for eating comfortably and with no cravings on restricted calories. I can eat 2500 calories of mostly carbs and still be hungry, with rolling cravings throughout the day. On the other hand, I can eat 1400 calories of low starch/sugar/carb food and be full and satisfied for HOURS, with zero cravings throughout the day.

A chemical supplement isn't your issue, your current diet is! You are unwilling to fix it and yet regularly bemoaning the problems it is causing you with slow scale movement, hunger, cravings, etc. The truth is that these issues are entirely fixable, and with a fair bit of ease, but if you aren't ready or willing to do so then asking us to constantly suggest fixes FOR you is a waste of time.

If hunger and cravings are your problem, knowing your diet and weight, the types of foods you are eating is the cause and solution. It's that simple.

You seem rather dogmatic that you have my problems pegged. The fact is that I eat very little sugar, and the only starchy thing I eat is mashed potatos maybe once a week; my diet is largely protein. If you want to offer advice, that's great. But just because you may think I'm doing it all wrong doesn't mean I'm obligated to do it your way. And if you don't like my posts - don't respond.

@ValRock, I had not heard of cinnamon as a way to curb hunger. If it's not too pricey, I may pick some up. I'm already dieting and exercising. Thanks!

LockItUp 06-19-2012 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tricon7 (Post 4376694)
You seem rather dogmatic that you have my problems pegged. The fact is that I eat very little sugar, and the only starchy thing I eat is mashed potatos maybe once a week; my diet is largely protein. If you want to offer advice, that's great. But just because you may think I'm doing it all wrong doesn't mean I'm obligated to do it your way. And if you don't like my posts - don't respond.

You say that, yet have stated in several threads that you have an apple fritter from 7-11 every day and york peppermint patties very often. Hey, eat what you want! But the actual fact is you state in other threads other things than you just said here.

And the other fact is that if anyone says ANYTHING you don't want to hear you poo-poo it, and often times kind of lash out. People are just trying to help you, whether you like what they say or not.

seagirl 06-19-2012 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Mama (Post 4376591)
I mentioned this in other threads, though it wasnt what you wanted to hear. If appetite control and cravings are your issue, starch and sugar are your problems. They cause real, physiological changes in your hormonal response to food that makes you want more of it, and more frequently. Slowly digesting, low-insulin-spiking foods are where it is at for eating comfortably and with no cravings on restricted calories. I can eat 2500 calories of mostly carbs and still be hungry, with rolling cravings throughout the day. On the other hand, I can eat 1400 calories of low starch/sugar/carb food and be full and satisfied for HOURS, with zero cravings throughout the day.

A chemical supplement isn't your issue, your current diet is! You are unwilling to fix it and yet regularly bemoaning the problems it is causing you with slow scale movement, hunger, cravings, etc. The truth is that these issues are entirely fixable, and with a fair bit of ease, but if you aren't ready or willing to do so then asking us to constantly suggest fixes FOR you is a waste of time.

If hunger and cravings are your problem, knowing your diet and weight, the types of foods you are eating is the cause and solution. It's that simple.

I find this to be so true for myself!! I kept craving cookies at work for a few days, and I finally looked back at what I'd been eating before those cravings, and my protein intake was too low. I now have cheese sticks in the fridge, and the cookies sit there untouched!

tricon7 06-19-2012 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LockItUp (Post 4376703)
You say that, yet have stated in several threads that you have an apple fritter from 7-11 every day and york peppermint patties very often. Hey, eat what you want! But the actual fact is you state in other threads other things than you just said here.

I was eating those yummy apple fritters every morning - until I discovered they may contain up to 790 calories per fritter. They got ditched pretty quick. And once I dropped my calories, I only eat one peppermint patty a day. I just can't afford any more. So you see - the only sugary item I eat now is one PP, and it's only 140 calories. Just because I did things one way once before doesn't mean it's permanent. People can change.

cancersuckseggs 06-19-2012 04:39 PM

I wouldnt.

JohnP 06-19-2012 04:45 PM

I am unaware of any over the counter medication (or prescription) that can control hunger long term.

Generally speaking avoiding sugar and having a diet rich in protein, fat and fiber is the easiest way to control hunger.

As an FYI - if you've recently eliminated sugar from your diet I would give it a little time to see how you feel with your new dietary choices.

LockItUp 06-19-2012 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tricon7 (Post 4376786)
I was eating those yummy apple fritters every morning - until I discovered they may contain up to 790 calories per fritter. They got ditched pretty quick. And once I dropped my calories, I only eat one peppermint patty a day. I just can't afford any more. So you see - the only sugary item I eat now is one PP, and it's only 140 calories. Just because I did things one way once before doesn't mean it's permanent. People can change.

Never said they couldn't change. But you still missed the actual point of my post, again. I give up.

Porthardygurl 06-19-2012 05:50 PM

I could suggest what ive been using which is PGX...Its basically a pill designed to help stabalize blood sugar levels and reduce appetite...It wont take your appetite away..but ive been using it for the past week..You take it 20 minutes prior to eating...and its supposed to help you have an increased feeling of fullness so that you dont feel inclined to eat as much...Basically its a wack load of fibre of sorts in a pill..It expands in your stomach and gives you a feeling of more fullness..Ive been taking it and have been finding that its been helping me not crave as much and ive been finding that i have been feeling more full and eating less then normal at a sitting...However..just a disclaimer..it must be used with diet, exercise and willpower..Its not magic at all...

Im also pretty sure it has a similar effect to that of the cinnamon pills that Val was mentioning..Check it out online via google and see if its something to try..

Lori Bell 06-19-2012 05:56 PM

A York Peppermint patty has about the equivalent to 6 1/4 teaspoons of sugar, 1/8 teaspoon of salt and 2 teaspoons of fat. If I would eat one every day I personally would CRAVE MORE starch/sugar/salt/fat ALL DAY LONG.

Now, I understand that many people on this board refuse to give up certain foods, and that is fine by me. Many feel deprived or unsatisfied unless they get their fix on a regular basis, (no matter how small the fix is), and that is also fine by me....to each his/her own. But, often times it's the same people who just can't understand why their weightloss is slow, or why they crave foods, get hungry often and find it difficult to stay within their caloric limits, and well...you just can't have your cake and eat it too. The real truth is, fast and steady weight loss comes most often to the people who give up trigger foods. The people who usually succeed at losing weight more quickly are the ones who are avoiding foods that are non supportive to faster weightloss...

Basically you have 2 choices. Lose weigh slowly and have your daily treats and suffer more cravings or don't eat treats and lose weight more quickly and have less cravings. Either way is the right way for individual preference.

As far as the supplements, trust me, if you think you might not be able to afford cinnamon, then you definitely can't afford Xenadrine pills. They are expensive garbage and should be treated as such! :) IMHO

Arctic Mama 06-19-2012 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LockItUp (Post 4376866)
Never said they couldn't change. But you still missed the actual point of my post, again. I give up.

Yes, I do as well. I'd love to help, Tricon, but it seems you're not actually looking for sensible advice. There's no magic pills, Xenadrine included, that will do more for your body that time/proper nutrition/energy deficits together. I want you to find success and not be frustrated, but that requires making choices that add up to that success. You can choose sugar or certain junk food, it you can't choose it AND expect fast weight loss and hunger management, you know? Something has to give.

ValRock 06-19-2012 09:46 PM

After coming back and rereading a bit. I have to say I agree with these ladies.

Cinnamon isn't going to do you a bit of good if you continue to let yourself ride the sugar roller coaster. Not everyone has problems with sugar and starch... but the people who do, don't have a lot of success if they keep making excuses to consume things that don't agree with their bodies.

You can keep making excuses that allow you to fail... or you can try something different, stick with it, and see if you see positive change.

Sure, the York patty might not make you gain 50 lbs overnight... but for certain people (myself included) it would make my entire day completely miserable. Why do that to yourself when there's an easy fix??

Don't eat the junk. Get enough fat, protein, and other essential nutrients. Feed your body what it wants. If your body is not getting what it needs it won't give you what you want.

Salgal 06-19-2012 09:50 PM

I've tried it and I still had binges and cravings. I think the only way to do this is with your willpower and commitment.

JohnP 06-19-2012 10:11 PM

I really think that you anti-sugar people are jumping to conclusions that can't be justified based on the information we know. I realize that low carb diets have changed a lot of people's lives for the better but others suffer massively without a fair amount of carbs in their diet.

Here is what we know:

Tricon was eating a lot of sugar recently. As in last week.

He has eliminated all but a single york peppermint patty.

Could it be that single patty is causing cravings? Yes, possibly but more likely is the massive decrease in sugar from last week is causing more cravings.

Could it be responsible for stalling weight loss? No. What is much more likely is Tricon (as he mentioned) was simply underestimating the caloric content of the apple fritter he was consuming on a very regular basis.

seagirl 06-20-2012 05:17 AM

I'm not anti sugar at all, but I think that if you were to go looking at the "Goal" posts from anyone who has lost weight and kept it off , you would not find one person who says "it was all possible due to Xenadrine." You will see people who struggled, kept going, didn't give up and and listened to their bodies and also felt the physical sensation of hunger and just lived with it.

I went to bed and my stomach felt hungry last night. I'd worked hard at a swim, had fueled well but my body was burning energy to warm me back up and repair my muscles. It wasn't anything that needed to be fixed or solved. It just was.

If you don't want to get rid of the big Peppermint Patty every day, maybe try having 2 small ones at different times of the day. And then switching to just one small one. And then having it only a couple times a week. It's just a habit you've gotten yourself into, you can get yourself out of it too.

stunzorz 06-20-2012 09:18 AM

Cinnamon helps regulate blood sugar, so it may help with your appetite.

Caffeine is also helpful in suppressing your appetite. Also, it may take a week or two or so to get the hang of things, but if you keep your eating to the designated meal times, you can really get yourself out of the snacking habit pretty quickly.

jessica2231 06-27-2012 04:43 PM

i read through the thread and honestly your struggles sound like mine lately.

for the first 6months of my weightloss and helthy lifestyle i was doing all the do's and maybe once a week with a small cheat. i didnt feel deprived till holidays came halloween, thanksgiving, christmas, new years, my bday. then for the last six months it was slow a** taper.

first 6months may-end of october- about40lbs
november to now -13lbs
and for the last 4 months ive been struggling with the same 5 dang lbs!

y? for me Ive realised its those things where i stay in calorie for days with junk then explode and eat what i want. (not way over board) but still not good stuff. not healthy stuff. fast food or restauraunts or frozen foods.

the last 4 days i have lost 2.6lbs. why? (also would say some water weight from cheats)

for me I know its giving up those 4pieces of licorice a day. with the tv dinner that low in calories but its tastie and junky. or the choclate cookie snacks that are only 100 cals.

ive finally accepted at least for the time being...
even though something is low in calorie that doesnt mean its going to be a positive affect on my mind body and hunger.

always remember there are valleys and peaks. (i was in a valley for a while)

Heres to hoping and trying to stay true to myself that im climbing upto another peak. :)


also remember we are all here for the same reason. it boils down to hope and support. we're here to help. i know i was taking some peoples advice as judgemental for a while. but really its me being angry at me. i know i was doing other stuff i shouldnt have been. but thats just me and maybe you are different. i just wanted to share my story with you. good luck and i hope you acheive the best!:carrot::carrot: no matte what dont give up! :hug:

alitorry 06-27-2012 06:34 PM

I have had this problem recently and I think it had to do with the peanut butter (and the sugar in it) I kept eating to satisfy my cravings. So the more PB I ate, the more cravings I would get. I've been completely fine on my diet for the last 5 months til I started the PB thing :) that pretty much sabotaged me this month :(
But anyhow, my trainer recently mentioned to get chromium picolinate. She said that helps with cravings. I haven't bought any but I have heard before it helps with weight loss. Good luck!

katkitten 06-27-2012 07:30 PM

I think that every person has to lose weight in the way that is best for them and if you want to try a pill and give yourself a daily treat then that is your right. :) I have never had luck with appetite suppressants. But YOU might.


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