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melodymist 03-28-2012 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by shcirerf (Post 4270311)
Weight Watchers Lifetime Member here. Maintaining.

We go a week at a time, with an allowance built in for treats or splurges or any unexpected situations.

While I wouldn't do a Snickers Ice Cream everyday, I would build it into my plan, say twice a month and enjoy it!

This is awesome advice!

Steph7409 03-28-2012 12:38 PM

While I agree that many people (myself included) attach too much emotional significance to food, I can't see food as just fuel. If that were the case, we could all just eat MREs like soldiers or astronauts. Eating something with fat or sugar (the stuff that makes food taste good) doesn't make me a bad person who is doomed to be fat all my life. I don't think having a treat is wasting calories, because I think eating tasty food has its own value. I know sugar in particular can be a slippery slope but I don't think it deserves to be demonized.

2salads 03-28-2012 01:00 PM

I don't think great tasting food needs to be demonized. I think keeping food in perspective and listening to your body's need for fuel, first and foremost, is a good plan. That way treats remain just that, treats with no guilt. I've cut bread and pasta out of my diet these past few weeks and already I've noticed my urge to have them dropping increasingly, and if I do slip in a pasta dish I don't feel so well after. Which makes me less likely to want them again. Don't get me wrong. I enjoy eating the pasta very much. It's the side effects after that kill me. :) But I definately hate being told I can't eat something. Then I almost want to eat it out of defiance. If having a treat helps keep people from feeling deprived that's great.

tricon7 03-28-2012 01:44 PM

I had a massive sugar attack this morning before work, so I stopped at a 7-11 and got a 400-cal. apple fritter and a 250-cal. caramel Milky Way candy bar. Boy, were they good! And that entire apple fritter stuck with me a while. On account of my diet change, I skipped my mid-morning snack and reduced my lunch by half, and presto! I'm back on track for the day, calorie-wise.

By all means, eat something yummy. Just either burn it off or adjust your intake to account for it. In the case of something 300 calories, why not reduce your calorie intake today by, say, 150 and tomorrow by 150 so it'll "hurt" less?

krampus 03-28-2012 01:49 PM

Sure, go for it. Just, you know, eat real food too. "Everything in moderation" is a good rule for those of us who would rather kill ourselves than never eat dessert again.

freelancemomma 03-28-2012 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Beach Patrol (Post 4270839)
Personally, I get a treat EVERY day. I switch it up; sometimes it's a jello pudding, sometimes a fudge bar, sometimes half a chocolate bar, sometimes a fried chicken leg! -whatever!! I make sure it fits into my calorie allotment. Why? Because I'm COUNTING CALORIES. So it works. FOR ME. ;) :D

Same here. Food is not JUST about nutritional value, but about enjoyment. I don't think that taking away the enjoyment factor is useful for most of us -- we just need to learn to control it.

For my part, I don't give myself automatic treats every day, but I do when I'm in the mood, which might be a couple of times a week. I actually don't think of them as treats, because one of my policies is to eat only foods I like a lot. Fortunately I've always preferred healthy/gourmet foods over junk food, so it's all good.

Freelance

freelancemomma 03-28-2012 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 2salads (Post 4270887)
Ultimately it is fuel for our bodies. Our EMOTIONS often make it more than that but we often don't let our bodies think about food for us. *thumbs up*

Well, I think our BIOLOGY also makes food more than fuel. We're designed to enjoy food. We could also say that sex is strictly for reproduction from an evolutionary perspective, but most people are designed to find it enjoyable (so they'll be motivated to reproduce).

F.

Blueberries 03-28-2012 02:19 PM

Honestly, I feel like I enjoy my food way more now than I ever did when I was stuck for all those years in the food addiction cycle. I eat things that are delicious *and* good for my body. I also love knowing that they're helping me to get stronger and lift more. I savor the taste of my food in a way now that I never did before.

I've lost weight before, but I never realized that I was dealing with more than just being overweight. It wasn't until I began to explore the root of my food issues that I was able to be freed from most of the mental crap that goes along with it. I've never truly looked at food as fuel before, it's always been comfort, reward, friend, etc.

By saying that I view food more as fuel now, I certainly didn't mean to imply that there shouldn't be enjoyment. I'm much less likely now to eat something that I don't enjoy.

gagalu 03-28-2012 03:04 PM

i do it occasionally. i mean, it's not good nutritionally, but it's not going to make you fat.

Beach Patrol 03-28-2012 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by freelancemomma (Post 4271164)
I actually don't think of them as treats, because one of my policies is to eat only foods I like a lot.

^^this!!^^
I like treats. A lot. :D :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :D

I eat super-healthy foods because I like them. A lot. :cb: :hun: :broc: :hungry: :carrot:

Today's breakfast was a banana, piece of toast, & 1.5 oz of cashews.

Lunch was carrots, zucchini, green beans, tomato & cucumber salad. No dressing.

Snack was a treat (4 blocks of chocolate... :cloud9: )

And dinner tonight will be a 2 egg omelet with bell peppers & 2% cheese. SUPER YUMMELS!!!

So the "4 blocks of chocolate" worked in easily into my caloric allotment. This is what enables me to know that I can truly EAT THIS WAY FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE. Because I'm SATISFIED :woohoo: :goodscale :yay:

mimsyborogoves 03-28-2012 03:16 PM

I had a cookies and cream milkshake today that had as much calories as one big meal or two small meals, and you know what? I don't care because I RARELY have stuff like that, and I know I will be good on OMG sweet stuff for awhile. It was delicious, too. OM NOM NOM.

That's how I have to think of stuff like that; otherwise I'll beat myself up and feel depressed and blahblahblah and I'd much rather be happy with myself than an emotional wreck! :)

MindiV 03-28-2012 03:25 PM

As a maintainer (before I got pregnant) I allowed myself ice cream as a dessert every single night. It's just something I love. Sometimes, especially on weekends if I've been busy and haven't eaten as much during the day, I'll have a bigger, full-fat and sugar bar instead of a light one. I say if you've got the calories for it, go for it.

But just a note...around here there are Snicker ice cream bars that are only 180 calories too!! :)

2salads 03-28-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueberries (Post 4271206)
Honestly, I feel like I enjoy my food way more now than I ever did when I was stuck for all those years in the food addiction cycle. I eat things that are delicious *and* good for my body. I also love knowing that they're helping me to get stronger and lift more. I savor the taste of my food in a way now that I never did before.

I've lost weight before, but I never realized that I was dealing with more than just being overweight. It wasn't until I began to explore the root of my food issues that I was able to be freed from most of the mental crap that goes along with it. I've never truly looked at food as fuel before, it's always been comfort, reward, friend, etc.

By saying that I view food more as fuel now, I certainly didn't mean to imply that there shouldn't be enjoyment. I'm much less likely now to eat something that I don't enjoy.

Yes this is really what I meant. I think I came off wrong earlier. :?: It would be great to gain as much satisfaction from eating healthy foods as "treat" foods.

Arctic Mama 03-28-2012 06:26 PM

Eating occasional junk food is a perfectly valid choice, just be sure you're not undermining your goals by indulging too much. When I am in a maintenance period I eat a little cheese and dark chocolate daily, even though I am generally paleo-ish in my diet and avoid almost all sugar and dairy, in addition to grains and beans (except the rare fermented or non-inflammatory starch). I couldn't and wouldn't want to never eat delicious food so I build it in, but it is far from foundational in calories or nutrition. A little sugar isn't the end of the world, but watch the balance!

LandonsBaby 03-29-2012 12:07 AM

One a day seems like overkill but once or twice a week seems totally reasonable. It was mentioned food shouldn't be a reward. This isn't a reward. It's merely using your allotment for something you want. If it doesn't lead to a binge fest then why not?


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