When you're doing serious weight loss there are a ton of things happening in the body. You definitely want to talk about this with your doctor, but I will also second the above from bargoo. They don't necessarily know anything about the effects of weight loss and what things to look for. I just read an article that a doctor will often not consider you to be overweight based on the doctor's weight. And the BMI, once you get close to your "range" is not a very good indicator of body composition, which is more important than weight. If she has doubts, have them measure your body comp and see where you are. If you are in the healthy range of BF% then you shouldn't be "forced" to lose more weight to meet your goals.

Originally Posted by andrew80k:
I just read an article that a doctor will often not consider you to be overweight based on the doctor's weight.

Oh my *god*. I just had the exact same thing said to me by someone else! Well, okay, not the exact same thing, but along the same lines. We were talking about my weight loss, and she said, "Well, but you can't have any more to lose, you're so tiny!" and I said, "Well, Dr. C. says I have another 15 pounds to go before I'm at my ideal weight."

And her answer was, "Pffft. Dr. C is a skeleton. Who is she to say you have 15 pounds to go?!" Which is true...Dr. C is *very* thin; she's about 5'8 and I'd venture a guess that she's no more than 120 pounds. So if she's considering me in relation to her....well, ****, of course I'm overweight.

I'm just going to go in there tomorrow and state the facts: I'm *not* willing to lose another 15 pounds. Five? Sure. I can do that, I think. But fifteen? Not going to happen. And if I can't get another five off, I'm not going to beat myself up over that, either. But if she compromises with me and agrees to write me a note setting my healthy goal weight at 135, I'll be satisfied with that. I just will not kill myself to get to 125. I won't. I've been bulimic and obsessed with exercise already; I don't want to go back there, and I can feel it happening, so why force myself into a situation where it's almost sure to happen?

Snoofie -

I didn't see you respond to this but please get the dizziness checked out (if not from your current doctor but from someone else) just to rule everything else out. You don't want to ignore some other underlying condition just because you thought this was weight loss related (also, have you had your eyes checked recently? that makes me dizzy sometimes too). :)

You said in another of your posts that you're eating more than you ever did, so if anything that makes me think it could be something else and not necessarily weight loss connected. Also, I asked this and others too but are you getting enough protein and fat? You can be eating clean but without those two things it really can give you headaches and dizziness.

Originally Posted by runningfromfat:
Snoofie -

I didn't see you respond to this but please get the dizziness checked out (if not from your current doctor but from someone else) just to rule everything else out. You don't want to ignore some other underlying condition just because you thought this was weight loss related (also, have you had your eyes checked recently? that makes me dizzy sometimes too). :)

You said in another of your posts that you're eating more than you ever did, so if anything that makes me think it could be something else and not necessarily weight loss connected. Also, I asked this and others too but are you getting enough protein and fat? You can be eating clean but without those two things it really can give you headaches and dizziness.

My eyes are fine. They were just checked six weeks ago.

I *am* planning to have the dizziness checked out; I've already said I made an appointment for tomorrow morning.

....I kind of wish that people would realize that, hey, this is *my* body. *I* live in it. *I* know what I have been doing in terms of food and exercise, and *I* know that the changes that have happened recently in my weight have been due to increased exercise (because I have come to the realization that in order to go any lower in terms of weight, I have to spend an insane amount of time working out.)

And I have experimented by slacking off slightly on the working out, and when I "slack off" (meaning doing it three days a week, an hour each time) the weight stops coming off. When I ramp up the working out (as in, five days a week, an hour and a half each time) the weight starts coming off again, but I get the dizzy spells and headaches. I've tried working out more but combining it with eating more; working out less and eating more; working out more and eating less; every bloody combination I can think of, and the only thing that is working for me right now in terms of getting more weight off is working out an *insane* amount --- an amount that, frankly, I have absolutely zero interest in keeping up. I have to work, after all, and I'd also like to have a life that allows me to be, y'know, away from the gym every now and then.

To be honest? I made this post not to get suggestions on what I should do instead of stating that I'm done, but to simply vent/rant. I'm really not all that interested in having people suggest that I do this, or do that. After all, I'm not even really interested in what my doctor has to say in terms of where I "should" be at this point. I will ask for tests to be done to make sure there is no underlying condition causing this; but if there is, I am going to be asking some MAJOR questions, because I lost this weight to be *more* healthy, not less, and if I am now developing some condition that I never bloody had before, then being thin is not worth it.

I am not willing to make myself sick to be skinny.

I think you have a good plan meeting with your doctor.

Snoofie

Understand, I was not talking about the dizziness in the context of your weight and never said anything about you having to get to a healthy BMI. If you're happy where you're at that's great (especially since your other tests turned out fine). All I was doing was asking about it because you didn't respond to that part. I'm glad you're going to see your doctor tomorrow too.

It seems, though, you were inferring quite a bit from what I said (that I was suggesting you HAD to get to a healthy BMI, which was mentioned nowhere in either of my posts). I get you want to vent but when I hear about dizziness and other problem it's worth examining from all angles. If you don't want suggestions, so be it.

You might want to consider, though, why you are so defensive about the healthy BMI issue? It sounds like you're healthy now, your friends appear to agree, so is there something else bothering you with it? Are you looking for validation for your choice? Because, honestly, that's only something YOU can decide for yourself, not other 3FC members, not your doctor, not your friends, not your family, only you.

All I'm trying to say is if that's your choice, come to peace with it. Don't seek other's validation and also understand that there could be other health issues at play. Certainly, it might be weight loss related but it also might not be. It's always good to know for sure. :shrug:

WW would not let my mom get lifetime outside the healthy BMI or show her what maintenance should look like (or give her the maintenance program info)

That being said, maybe things have improved since then, this was about 10 years ago. But remember you dont need WW to maintain. There is a nice maintenance forum here and I'm sure you can get all the help you need if WW decides to be douchey about it.

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Not all dizziness is related to eating-or shows up on bloodwork.

There's something called BPM (google with dizziness) that is common and has to do with something becoming dislodged in your inner ear. It can come on with no warning.

This isn't for the poster per se as she states she doesn't want feedback, but for the other people posting here about dizziness causes .

I don't think anyone is saying that you have to lose more weight. People are just suggesting that the fainting and dizziness are a problem that might be entirely separate from your weight and diet.

Originally Posted by DietVet:
I don't think anyone is saying that you have to lose more weight. People are just suggesting that the fainting and dizziness are a problem that might be entirely separate from your weight and diet.

I understand that, which is why I am going to see my doctor tomorrow to ask for a referral for bloodwork and perhaps an EKG (depending on whether she feels that's necessary, I guess.)

Originally Posted by runningfromfat:
You might want to consider, though, why you are so defensive about the healthy BMI issue?

I think it's mainly because I'm getting sick and tired of people saying, in one breath, that "numbers don't matter, scales don't matter" and then in the next yammering on about how important it is to have a "healthy" BMI. As far as I'm concerned, you can't have it both ways. Either I'm obsessed with getting to a healthy BMI, or I'm happy where I am. I can't have both, in my opinion.

And I'm starting to think, too, that if out of all the people I know, only ONE of those people keeps going on and on about how I *need* to get down to 125, then maybe they're the one with the issue, not me and everyone else. And I'll be honest....it makes me pretty sad that the one person harping on numbers is my doctor, who should - in my opinion - be damn pleased with the incredibly hard work I've done to get where I am, instead of essentially saying, "Well, that's good, but it's not good enough."

I got down to 142 at my lowest before I regained. I was stuck there at a low calorie level, but I felt great. I was healthy, and happy, but got hung up on not being "normal" by BMI standards. If I make it back to 142, I don't know if I'll actively continue trying to lose. My doctor doesn't really care either. I think everyone should stop at whatever weight they are happy with and who cares what BMI says.

Besides, the farther from "average" you get by BMI standards, the less it means.

Edit: Meant to say the farther from average HEIGHT, the less BMI means.

Originally Posted by Snoofie:
And I'm starting to think, too, that if out of all the people I know, only ONE of those people keeps going on and on about how I *need* to get down to 125, then maybe they're the one with the issue, not me and everyone else. And I'll be honest....it makes me pretty sad that the one person harping on numbers is my doctor, who should - in my opinion - be damn pleased with the incredibly hard work I've done to get where I am, instead of essentially saying, "Well, that's good, but it's not good enough."

That must be incredibly frustrating. You've done amazingly well, your doctor should be proud!

Can you insist on getting your body fat percentage measured? That might shut your doctor up and get you your note. If you're healthy according to that then everyone should just leave you alone!

Otherwise good luck and I hope you find out what is causing your dizzy spells :(

Originally Posted by Snoofie:
I think it's mainly because I'm getting sick and tired of people saying, in one breath, that "numbers don't matter, scales don't matter" and then in the next yammering on about how important it is to have a "healthy" BMI. As far as I'm concerned, you can't have it both ways. Either I'm obsessed with getting to a healthy BMI, or I'm happy where I am. I can't have both, in my opinion.

And I'm starting to think, too, that if out of all the people I know, only ONE of those people keeps going on and on about how I *need* to get down to 125, then maybe they're the one with the issue, not me and everyone else. And I'll be honest....it makes me pretty sad that the one person harping on numbers is my doctor, who should - in my opinion - be damn pleased with the incredibly hard work I've done to get where I am, instead of essentially saying, "Well, that's good, but it's not good enough."

That always drives me nuts, too. I generally ignore what my doctor recommends unless it is in an area where I actually need medical assistance - like reading an x-ray or ordering a blood panel. Otherwise I do my own research, get multiple opinions, and listen to my body first and most!

I have a dense, muscular frame as well, and getting down to a healthy BMI is pretty low on my list of to-do's. If I feel good, have healthier blood chemistry, and like the way my body looks, I don't give two *}^#% what my doctor thinks about my weight. If 140 or whatever is the best I decide for my body, his opinion means nothing unless he can demonstrably prove a health problem and subsequent resolution related to my diet or exercise.

maybe you could just take the weight loss easier and slower now that you are fine with your weight sounds like you are going too hard. Also maybe you aren't drinking enough water that would cause you to faint especially if you are working out dehydrated which is very dangerous also. Cut down the workouts and just watch your calories I would say but whatever you feel is best just throwin that out there don't have to stop all together. congrats on your loss so far wooot good job :D