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170starting 09-28-2011 11:34 AM

"It's Unrealistic"
 
:mad:

Do you ever get unsolicited advice when people see what you are eating?

Today, While eating my greek salad for lunch, one of my coworkers came up to me and said "I only ever see you eat vegetables and chicken - It's not realistic. No REAL person eats like that - why dont you just eat REAL food and less amounts?"

<------- Evidently I am not a real person, I am a fake one... and I eat fake food. :devil:

I eat it for lunch because it easy, but I eat a myriad of different foods for breakfast and dinner. :mad:

Beach Patrol 09-28-2011 11:39 AM

I consider those kinds of comments to be pointless chatter. People somehow feel the need to SAY SOMETHING about other people's chosen menu. I don't get it. Other than the "oh, that looks good!" kinds of comments, they really ARE pointless.

There's a woman I work with who feels she HAS to comment on my lunch EVERY.SINGLE.DAY. "She's having her veggies and fruit again!" or something equally stupid & pointless. I usually just smile & nod, or "agree" with her - but lately, it's been wearing on my last nerve. I'm about to ask her WHY she finds it SOOOOOO important to comment on my food all the time? I mean, seriously, woman! - comment on your own **** lunch. Better yet, just STFU. :D

berryblondeboys 09-28-2011 11:40 AM

That person was just venting their own frustrations with themselves for not being able to eat as you are eating. They feel it's unrealistic for THEM to eat lunch like that.

That, and they just assume that's what you eat 24/7 which is pretty narrow thinking on their part!

berryblondeboys 09-28-2011 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beach Patrol (Post 4050434)
I consider those kinds of comments to be pointless chatter. People somehow feel the need to SAY SOMETHING about other people's chosen menu. I don't get it. Other than the "oh, that looks good!" kinds of comments, they really ARE pointless.

There's a woman I work with who feels she HAS to comment on my lunch EVERY.SINGLE.DAY. "She's having her veggies and fruit again!" or something equally stupid & pointless. I usually just smile & nod, or "agree" with her - but lately, it's been wearing on my last nerve. I'm about to ask her WHY she finds it SOOOOOO important to comment on my food all the time? I mean, seriously, woman! - comment on your own **** lunch. Better yet, just STFU. :D

I am currently a stay at home mom, but if they were to see my breakfast and lunch every day, they would think I only ate two things - ever. But, for dinner, I eat more and something different every night. People are just stupid about what they say sometimes.

170starting 09-28-2011 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beach Patrol (Post 4050434)
comment on your own **** lunch. Better yet, just STFU. :D

it is SO annoying, right?!?!? :mad: I felt like saying "Yes, I am eating my veggies and chicken. MAYBE YOU SHOULD TRY IT SO YOU CAN GET RID OF THAT VOLCANO OF A PIMPLE THAT HAS BEEN ON YOUR CHIN FOR 4 MONTHS!!!!"

ok... I am calming down now.

\end meltdown

sontaikle 09-28-2011 11:44 AM

When I was a preschool teacher I got this a lot. I remember bringing pineapple for lunch and getting told "that's not lunch!" We generally had to eat the food served to the kids and I would eat small amounts because I knew it was pretty high in calories. I would get lots of "That's it? You're only eating that??"

Leave me alone!

Kittenmancer 09-28-2011 11:49 AM

At my old job, some of my colleagues were convinced I was a vegetarian (I'm very much a carnivore) because at the office cafeteria I avoided fatty meats or meat that had been fried and asked for the vegetarian option instead. And any time they'd see me eat chicken or some other lean meat, they'd exclaim in shock "But I thought you didn't eat meat!".

djs06 09-28-2011 11:54 AM

"uh huh, that's riveting" is my standard snarky response to people who comment on things that are none of their concern. :lol: Okay, not really- but I do think you should call them out in any way you think would be effective (it varies greatly among personalities). People should be corrected when they're out of line.

Lovely 09-28-2011 11:57 AM

I, too, don't really understand comments on food beyond a simple "Ooh, that looks/smells good." :shrug:

I probably would've said back to that woman plainly, "I see you're having <insert food>. How's that working for you?"

Sakai 09-28-2011 11:58 AM

I get this all the time at my work...
One from a older man who likes to point out that the food I and my BF eat "is not food...it's what food eats." (Just likes giving us a hard time about me being a vegitarian. and my BF give's him crap right back about the food he eats will give him another heart attack) - basic teasing that hardly gets to me.

What gets to me is when one other coworker sitting with us and takes a look at our plates and goes. "God you eat so much green stuff! you're like the healthiest eaters in this whole place." But he says it like he about to puke at the thought of eating a leaf. (he even picks the tastless iceburg out of his meat and cheese on a bun that he has EVERY DANG DAY!)

For the most part I think people are just curious. Now we have three other workers who eat salads every day at lunch but nobody really bugs them about it. (and they all would surprise me if they weighed more than 120 pounds,..one girl and two guys BTW)

So I wonder, is it just because I'm a big girl and eating plants that it's so much more novle? I'm not loud about being a vegitarian but most everyone who apparently cares about I put in my mouth knows I'm a veg-head. And I think they wonder what the heck i must be eating if it's not a leaf or a carrot.

"What are you eating! It smells so good! i thought you were a vegitarian?" - my Boss....Me- "sweet onions, squash, peas, garbonzo beans with a sweet curry sause over jasmine rice." and as always, they are shocked that something looking so good is made from plants.

I think if people know you are on a diet, they tend to snoop. Why?...I don't know. Are they the food police come to slap it out of my hands? Are they looking to see if I'm cheating? Sometimes I feel as though they are secretly hoping I'm shoving dounuts down my throat.

It's nearly impossible for me not to back sass their food choices when they get picky at MY LUNCH!
"Oh, I could never eat that, i hate mushrooms."
even though it's my lunch and I didn't offer them any, their just snooping at my plate and I feel and overwhelming urge to snoopp back and go "Well I could never eat Day-glo orange cheese that our goverment dyes because Americans are to stupid to figure out cheese is never orange."

two wrongs don't make a right but this, of course makes them shut up and go away. ^.^

Munchy 09-28-2011 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beach Patrol (Post 4050434)
There's a woman I work with who feels she HAS to comment on my lunch EVERY.SINGLE.DAY. "She's having her veggies and fruit again!" or something equally stupid & pointless. I usually just smile & nod, or "agree" with her - but lately, it's been wearing on my last nerve. I'm about to ask her WHY she finds it SOOOOOO important to comment on my food all the time? I mean, seriously, woman! - comment on your own **** lunch. Better yet, just STFU. :D

I have the same exact woman working at my job, but when she goes into my coworker's office to get her sugar fix from his candy basket, she always comments on my veggies w/hummus late afternoon snack. Yes, that candy bowl is there, and no, I'd rather eat this. "You're so good" is another comment I get, especially when we do any working lunches and I eat my own instead of ordering in.

free1 09-28-2011 12:04 PM

I'm still on this journey but I think this is what's wrong with our society. If you were eating an extra large value meal with fries and a soda, no one would ever comment about the way you're eating or that it's not "realistic." Eat healthy and a normal portion size for your weight goals and people react.

I still hide what I'm eating for lunch to avoid the comments from inquisitive people. Today, lunch is vegeterian vegetable soup with a few crackers which is enough for me (and very filling). I've also had to deal with people telling me that I needed to "eat a real meal." I'm sorry but a large bowl of vegetable soup with crackers and a drink is enough for me!

ERHR 09-28-2011 12:11 PM

170starting I am so mad on your behalf!!! Vegetables and chicken are REAL FOOD!! It's a lot more real than the average processed crap American diet. I would be very tempted to look at that person's meal and point out all the "food-like products" and inform her that she is not eating real food.

It's also ridiculous to judge a person's entire diet based on lunch, as others have pointed out. My lunch range is pretty small because not many meals lend themselves to packing into a lunchbox and heating in a microwave. My dinners are much more varied!

Soft Speaker 09-28-2011 12:36 PM

It really makes me self conscious when I go for the healthy foods. Last night, I went to dinner with my RA and one of my hall mates because they asked (I live in a dorm!). I had already had some food a few hours earlier but still had roughly 600 left so I decided to go to keep them company and if I wanted I could get some veggies or something to use up the rest of my cals.

Well they all got pasta, potatoes, pizza, etc, while I decided to just have a few piece of carved turkey and tomatoes and grapes! (which was great for me I loved it!) But when they saw my plate they were like "Really?" O_o. YES REALLY!!! -_- After that it always goes into "Why are you dieting?" "JUST EAT!!" or "Why do you wanna lose weight?"

Which of course I can answer them but apparently "to look and feel better about myself" isn't a good enough answer. :(

I just started my weight loss so hopefully I can come up with better things to tell them or easier ways to just let it roll off, but right now it's just plan annoying.

Glory87 09-28-2011 12:43 PM

I used to get this all the time from a plus-size coworker (worked in the same building, but didn't work with her, didn't even know her name!).

"There you go, salad again!"

Like, everyday. And I would smile, nod, be pleasant. One day I said "I used to be fat." And I looked her in the eye and held the look.

She never said anything about it again.

April Snow 09-28-2011 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by berryblondeboys (Post 4050439)
That person was just venting their own frustrations with themselves for not being able to eat as you are eating. They feel it's unrealistic for THEM to eat lunch like that.

That, and they just assume that's what you eat 24/7 which is pretty narrow thinking on their part!


Well, I do eat the same way 24/7 at this point, but I agree with the first part. Comments like that are always about the person saying them, rather than the person they are said to.

GonnaTurnHeads 09-28-2011 05:09 PM

My goodness, I know!! Even at the gym last night, I go in and stop for some brief small talk with the counter girl who is always so friendly and goes out of her way to remember my name, career, weight loss accomplishments, etc... and there was another person standing there chatting with her.

After talking to both of them for a minute, the man that was there decides to tell me everything he ate that day and ask me what I ate that day. Whatever, I'll engage the conversation, so I explained the whole process of juicing fruits and vegetables - and said I drank 2, 600cc juices for breakfast and lunch and grilled shrimp for dinner with brown rice.... then came the tirade of "Well, you will *never* lose weight eating like that!!" "Girl, that isn't realistic!" etc... etc... I just wanted to start to throw things at him! Don't ask me what I ate that day and then be critical. I didn't ask for your opinion in the first place! YOU asked ME!

I did take some passive aggressive pleasure in paying attention to his "workout" though. The cardio machines overlook the rest of the gym. Its great for people watching! He talked with the desk girl for 20 minutes, sporadically lifted some weights for <10 minutes, walked around for another 20 minutes chatting with people and then left. Guess who won't ever lose weight doing THAT?! ;-)

JustLorna 09-28-2011 05:56 PM

hummmm
 
You know....I never really thought about it. But now that I have...yes....it ticks me off too. But what REALLY gets me are those people that KNOW I am working hard to lose weight and literally bring stuff into my office and wave it under my nose and ask me if I want some. That's just plain rude!

gagalu 09-28-2011 06:11 PM

rofl what

that's the most ridiculous thing EVER

why do people feel like they have an obligation to comment on whatever everyone else is eating?

kaplods 09-28-2011 07:10 PM

On one hand, I agree that it can get annoying, but on the other hand I believe that we're conditioned to treat food comments and opinions much differently than other topics, and I think that does a greater disservice to us. We've made the topic so taboo, that it becomes "undiscussable," and I think that hinders people from making changes or seeking help, because the topic is too taboo to talk about.

People like to share opinions (if we didn't, this forum and and others on every other topic would be kind of useless).

We like to share our opinions and we may even like hearing other people's opinions (even when they're opposite our own) unless we decide it's on a topic we believe isn't any of their business. Problem is we don't all agree on which topics those are.

Considering that substance abuse, sexually explicit and other graphic topics have become mainstream, casual conversation but weight, diet and exercise are supposed to remain taboo?

I don't buy it. I think if I want to be able to share my opinions and even advice on a wide range of topics, I have to accept that other people are going to do the same. Sometimes I'm going to think their opinions and advice are stupid and repetitive, but I imagine some people think my opinions and advice are stupid and repetitive.

I know I have cliche conversation patterns (I know because my husband often tells me "you've told me that story ten thousand times - and it's only partially because I have short-term memory issues with the fibromyalgia).

But we don't get as angry on other topics. And what's strange is that we've become a society in which it's more "ok" to give opinions and advice on rearing child or dealing with substance abuse or a cheating spouse than it is to give opinions and advice on diet and exercise.

My perspective is a little bit different, because I welcome commentary - even if it's incredibly stupid commentary, because it offers the opportunity for discussion - and I firmly believe that making weight, diet, and fitness less taboo is necessary.

Substance abuse, child abuse, domestic violence, eating disorders, mental illness - they're all problems for which treatment success rates improved only after the taboo and stigma associated with each faded.

I think being able to discuss weight loss, diet, fitness and all the behaviors associated with each will be essential to widespread success.

We can't live in that society, because it doesn't exist yet, but the only way it ever will exist is if people refuse to see the "taboo" in the subject.

If I told people I was going to move to California to pursue an acting and singing career, I would get a lot of advice from family, friends and even strangers (including "that's not realistic," and "are you nuts?" especially from those who've ever heard me try to carry a tune).

Heck we love watching Simon rip on people for our amusement.

So if it's ok to brutally dash someone's dreams in the name of entertainment, why are comments on our diet so annoying?

When you're confident in your own choices, other people's comments and even criticism just don't have any sting.

I'm a foodie. I eat a lot of strange foods. It's a personal quirk, but I actually like that about me. I even like when folks comment, because it opens up the opportunity to discuss my quirky interests. Diet, health, fitness, and weight loss may even enter the conversation (because I love talking about those too).

I'm not saying everyone should, I'm just saying we shouldn't take it so personally when people treat weight loss and diet just like every other mundane topic. Topics that some people love, hate, or are neutral about discussing.

We need to celebrate the fact that weight loss and diet is becoming less taboo, because that's a good thing. We can try to push it back in the closet, but I don't think that really does any of us any good, because taboo problems are a lot harder to treat than problems that are out in the open.

Rather we have to build confidence in our choices so that we can discuss and even educate and possibly even convert (just as we would on other topic we were passionately interested in).

I know not everyone will agree with me, but I don't expect that and I don't even think I would like it if everyone did. I think the ability to discuss differences in opinion without (as much as possible) bringing negative emotions to the party, is one of the most awesome abilities humans posess. Discussing views and beliefs and even advice on religion, politics, social reform, charitable organizations, education, child rearing, financial (personal and business), ethics, law, movies, books, video games, even the weather - it's part of makes humanity so awesome. And if we can discuss opinions on all those things, it seems silly that we would want to keep weight loss off limits.

124chicksinger 09-28-2011 07:56 PM

well I have to admit that I'm guilty of this with one lady at work ... I don't go to the lunch room often...its like a dungeon in there and I hate it...I used to call it the fishbowl because you entered and the walls were aqua and it felt like you were in a tank...but they renovated...and still, no light, awful brown and orange colors, and no windows. ugh. Anyhow, I thought I was commiserating with this one co-worker who daily eats just a veg salad, no dressing. I don't know what she weighed in a former life--she looks perfect right now and has for the time I've known her. I was eating a salad that was lackluster and I commented to her.....how do you eat that every single day--because I'm eating the same now for about a week, and I am not even enjoying it---its like PRISON food that you don't have a choice but I'm eating it because its the only option. We laugh about that still. Only I'm making killer salads now.

I probably shouldn't have commented on her meal, but I was more making a comment about the whole diet drag.

Oh, and she said she doesn't like eating that lunch daily, but she does what is necessary to stay thin.

Slimmer Down Now 09-28-2011 08:29 PM

Like Sakai, I'm a veggie (pescatarian actually but whatever) and I get a lot of the same questions and have been challenged SO MANY TIMES by people wanting to know why I don't eat meat and going further to basically try to convince me that I should. It does get annoying, and for almost 20yrs now, I've had this conversation just about weekly (used to be daily).... then I got to the point that I don't even really want to talk about it, particularly if they come off as confrontational about it.

Anyways, the premise is the same... I tell everyone that it's a personal choice, and that I don't tell them what to eat and would appreciate the same respect.

I agree with Kap in that the dialogue isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I know how annoying it can be with someone who isn't genuinely concerned, but rather they want everyone to be (or eat) like they do (because to them, that's "normal") and they come off super snively.

tkdtara84 09-28-2011 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glory87 (Post 4050584)
I used to get this all the time from a plus-size coworker (worked in the same building, but didn't work with her, didn't even know her name!).

"There you go, salad again!"

Like, everyday. And I would smile, nod, be pleasant. One day I said "I used to be fat." And I looked her in the eye and held the look.

She never said anything about it again.

wow, way to go! I don't think I would have the guts for that, but that's a great response. I don't think people realize how rude they're being when they make comments like that. On the flip side, I think it's the playground teasing mentality- ridicule what you feel is better than you-- except as adults, it's usually a veiled ridicule.

berryblondeboys 09-28-2011 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by free1 (Post 4050496)
I'm still on this journey but I think this is what's wrong with our society. If you were eating an extra large value meal with fries and a soda, no one would ever comment about the way you're eating or that it's not "realistic." Eat healthy and a normal portion size for your weight goals and people react.

But... if you ate a value meal and were overweight, they would be talking behind your back.

kaplods 09-28-2011 09:03 PM

I'd rather have openly rude conversation with someone, than listen to them talk about me loudly behind my back.

I've confronted a few of those fun people in my life. Boy do they get put out when the "fatty" they've been ridiculing loudly, comes over to their table and starts chatting with them about the comments they've made - the "social rules" tell them that I'm supposed to politely pretend that I don't hear the nasty comments - I don't play by those rules any more. If you're going to talk (especially trash) about me behind my back, you'd better make sure I can't hear you, or you're going to be talking to me about it to my face.

And the best way to really pi-, er tick them off (or if they're decent human beings, embarass the heck out of them), is to do it with a great big, condescending smile and patronizing tone of voice, as if they were complete idiots you were doing the great service of educating in the ways of the world.

What really saddens me is when the people doing the stage-whispering insults (obviously wanting you to hear) are overweight women themselves. It's as if they're trying to make themselves feel better, with the "at-least-I'm-not-that-bad" routine).

And what makes me even sadder is that I once fell into that trap myself. Gossip can be a truly malicious force. I didn't think I was hurting anyone, because I really did try to make sure I was never overheard, but I didn't take into account the damage I was doing to myself or others by contributing to the notion that it was acceptable to judge others for poor choices.

I did, thankfully grow out of that mentality early, because of my jobs in social service and law enforcement in my 20's and 30's. I saw so many basically good people making poor choices, not because they were bad people or idiots or terminally selfish - just because they had been raised with or had fallen into bad habits and didn't know how to make and succeed at changes.

It was weird hearing guys talking about substance abuse and criminal behavior in the same way I talked about weight loss (like the guy who decided to give up residential burglary, but couldn't resist just one more really big heist to get it out of his system, or the alcoholic who turned himself into hospital rehab program after binge drinking in the parking lot beforehand, or the men and women who said "it's no use, I don't know why I can't change, I guess I'm just no good").

It made me realize that change of any kind is really hard, and I can't really ridicule anyone else for failing to change, when I have difficulty making changes in my own life.

Compassion really is an important component, and for weight loss, as a culture we don't seem to have a lot to spare. I usually only find a large supply of that type of compassion in places like this, IRL or online - weight-loss support groups.

steinanwine 09-28-2011 11:34 PM

For whatever reason no one comments on my food but I have a coworker who is VERY slim, naturally it appears, and she eats what looks like an amazing bowl of fresh veggies and leafy greens with seeds every day! I would want something more because that wouldn't fill me up but I don't comment on it, in fact I want to commend her for being so healthy but I don't bother her about what she is eating because all my other coworkers eat TACO BELL every day and EVERY DAY say "You and your salads Jo!" ...... Today Jo told me she loves her salads! She's not purposefully punishing herself like my coworkers think. Some of us just don't want fast food and LOVE being healthy!! :D

kimmieval 09-28-2011 11:50 PM

[Like, everyday. And I would smile, nod, be pleasant. One day I said "I used to be fat." And I looked her in the eye and held the look.
She never said anything about it again.]

Loooove it! Great answer...lo

jendiet 09-29-2011 02:33 AM

Hmm, I also like commentary, but I just like to talk. Actually I might be the one to say something stupid, but I really am just trying to carry on a conversation. I agree with Kaplods on many points.


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