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kcnc 01-23-2011 11:58 AM

Your experiences with water intake and sleep
 
Hi :wave:

So my losses have been stalling out. I understand that this is normal (it's only been about 3 months), but I'm thinking two things could be the culprit:

1) Sleep - a couple weeks ago I started 2nd semester/2nd year of law school. That's does serious damage to my sleep. Until May, I will be averaging 4-5 hours a night, which HURTS.

2) Water Intake - I think it's been dwindling. I don't drink stuff with sugar, BUT I can go *nuts* with diet coke, black coffee, & sugar free red bull, given the opportunity. And I've been giving myself the opportunity.


I can't do very much about the sleeping thing, but I'm going to make this an all-water week to see if this makes a difference.

Does anyone remember when either of these things seemed to really affect weight loss? I'd love to hear some stories!

Thanks!

kcnc

niafabo 01-23-2011 12:04 PM

Not drinking enough water can definitely be the culprit. I can gain up to 3 lbs of water weight if I forget to drink enough water and drink too much coffee. Water is essential to health and muscle repair so even if that isn't the culprit in your case (which it probably is) I would make it a point to drink more water anyways.

As for the sleep I hear it can have a major affect on weightloss but I usually sleep 6-8 hours every night so I haven't personally had any experience with weight gain because of it.

fatmac 01-23-2011 12:09 PM

Stress can also play a part in it, at least for me. There's not much you can do about it, but try to plan some de-stressing activities into your schedule.

Oh, and try dropping the artificial sweeteners. An all water week should tell you something!

sacha 01-23-2011 12:16 PM

Sleep (and in turn stress) was massive for me. I stalled badly due to a lack of sleep (which was then stress), averaging 1-3 hours total sleep in a 24 hour period for 3.5 months (yes, 1!!! 5:30-6:30am for 2 months straight) and then another 3 months @ 4 hours a night (broken). I'm now at 7-8 hours straight for the past 2 weeks (an occasional 20 minute wakeup) and already I'm noticing a major difference.

Law school is ouch for stress and sleep. I also could not do anything about my broken sleep so it's just best to work your way through it and minimize your other stressors. If you can, lol

stacygee 01-23-2011 12:25 PM

I think diet coke gives me the munchies. I try to only have 1 a day.

I know when I don't drink enough water I retain water so I always try to get at least 64 ounces.

kcnc 01-23-2011 12:30 PM

Thanks for your replies! So as I embark on my all-water-week, how much water is somebody supposed to drink?

I'm sure everyone's different - but is there a general # of ounces?

c_laura 01-23-2011 12:34 PM

People generally recommend 64oz...but I've always figured drink as much as you can without feeling sick. I've never had a problem getting in as much as 100 oz if I'm not drinking anything else.

Rana 01-23-2011 12:36 PM

8 glasses a day or so they say (64 oz or half your body weight in oz).

When I was drinking diet cokes and the like, I wasn't losing any weight. I don't know why. There's lots of research out there on aspartame and what could have been happening to my body, but I didn't investigate it deeply. When I stopped drinking it, I started to lose weight steadily... however, I made other changes in my diet too, so I can't say if it is.

Stress is a big one for me and when I'm under a lot of stress, I don't lose. I just chalk it up to that week "lost" because I wasn't able to balance it. Exercise is my lifesaver, though, it keeps me relatively relaxed. I would try to incorporate it into your law school studies, even if you feel there's not enough time in the day.

Your all water week should tell you. Good luck!

sacha 01-23-2011 12:37 PM

I tend to fill a cleaned milk jug with water and then make sure I go through at least half in a day.

niafabo 01-23-2011 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kcnc (Post 3670393)
Thanks for your replies! So as I embark on my all-water-week, how much water is somebody supposed to drink?

I'm sure everyone's different - but is there a general # of ounces?

The Institute of Medicine advises that women consume 2.2 liters (about 9 cups) of water a day. Most people go by the eight 8 ounces glasses of water rule though. I just drink a 12 oz glass every couple hours which usually keeps me from being thirsty. Just remind yourself through out the day and you should be fine.

Heather 01-23-2011 02:36 PM

I think drink enough so that you feel comfortable and hydrated.

Recently, the guidelines about drinking 64 oz of pure water have been somewhat debunked. It turns out those guidelines were based on ... well, no evidence at all. The recent research seems to indicate that your hydration comes from many sources, so you can count all the beverages you drink... and even consider that a lot of the food we eat is high in water content.

It seems a number of people find drinking beverages makes them less hungry, and that might be another good reason to drink more water, tea and even coffee...

cat90 01-23-2011 02:52 PM

I can't chug a lot of water I get kidney pains if I do :lol: so I don't force myself to drink it. I tend to have one cup every couple of hours. I'm an insomniac so can't help with the sleep thing but I would cut out those Red Bulls. I read that Richard Simmons cut out drinking diet soda's and lost 14lbs by doing that alone. Fizzy drinks whether 0 cal or not are not good for dieters :wave:

Pint Sized Terror 01-23-2011 02:55 PM

Water is a biggie for me. I started drinking more coke zero instead of water, and the scales are up up up. I can tell I'm retaining water because my rings don't fit. :o

I might try this "water week" and see if that kick-starts anything.

Also, I find that I simply cannot drink the 8-10 glasses of water a day. I end up in the bathroom every hour or so, LOL. I drink enough so I'm not thirsty. It was hard at first, because for years I was in a near-constant state of mild dehydration and I couldn't recognize when I was thirsty until my mouth was dry and uncomfortable. :dizzy: It's much easier now, and I drink probably 4-6 glasses of actual water a day.

shannonmb 01-23-2011 08:25 PM

Sleep has been THE difference for me. I found out last spring that I have severe sleep apnea and started using a CPAP machine. Since I have been sleeping an almost perfect 7 or so hours of sleep per night, I have made HUGE, MAJOR accomplishments in my lifestyle -- eating habits, exercise, even able recently to tackle my sodium intake and bring my BP down from medium-high to normal with no meds. I don't know if sleep itself does the trick, but for me, it makes the changes POSSIBLE, where before I was sleeping properly, they simply were not. You can only do what you can do, but my sleep has become priority 1 for me now that I know first hand how much of a difference it has made in every single aspect of my life!

I still drink some diet soda, but do drink water throughout the day. Don't really track it, but don't let myself get thirsty.

kcnc 01-23-2011 10:13 PM

Well, I'm hanging in there...day one of all water/no caffiene week. I'm pretty sure I'm going through some withdrawal already. I should be charming in the morning.

It's hard to believe all this water is going to help me....I feel like I must have 9lbs of liquid in me!


I'll come back and update mid week! **swims away** :swim:

duckyyellowfeet 01-23-2011 10:52 PM

Sleep is HUGE for me. I make it a priority every night, forcing myself to go to bed at 10pm so I can be up at 6. And while your life might not be quite so easily manipulated, try to squeeze in a few more zzzzs if you can.

I notice that drinking more water helps me to not feel so hungry. I typically just fill up a 32oz cup I have and carry it around with me. When its empty, I refill it.

bronzeager 01-24-2011 01:39 AM

When I read the title I thought this post was going to be about having to get up twice in the middle of the night to pee if you really follow the "8 glasses of water" rule. Or is that just me?

vexy 01-24-2011 03:44 AM

Personally, I just feel a lot less bloated when I drink enough water, but I am a soda addict (and eternally thankful for diet coke and the like) so sometimes I go wild on that too.

This weekend I had about 2,5 l of diet coke every day and only about half a litre of water during gym time and I still lost 2 lbs. I tend to watch my water intake though and make sure I drink more water than diet coke.

You should def try it out though, every body probably reacts different and the caffein in coke might just be a culprit in your case, as much as that'd suck.

Good Luck either way :)

Heather 01-24-2011 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bronzeager (Post 3671578)
When I read the title I thought this post was going to be about having to get up twice in the middle of the night to pee if you really follow the "8 glasses of water" rule. Or is that just me?

:rofl:

I don't pay attention to my water intake, but I typically wake up several times in the night to pee!!

LLBoldAsLove87 01-24-2011 08:24 AM

KCNC, I'm in law school as well! I don't envy you though, I'm in my last semester... a lot less stress (other than when I'm piled with journal work). Let me know if you need any advice on that front!

I've been trying to up my water intake as well, and I typically get anywhere from 5-7 hours of sleep each night. I'm wired a little differently, sometimes I wake up after 5 hours on my own even though I have no where to be!

synger 01-24-2011 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronzeager (Post 3671578)
When I read the title I thought this post was going to be about having to get up twice in the middle of the night to pee if you really follow the "8 glasses of water" rule. Or is that just me?

I thought the same thing! I try not to drink after 7 or 8 pm, otherwise I'm up in the middle of the night.

kcnc 01-24-2011 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LLBoldAsLove87 (Post 3671853)
KCNC, I'm in law school as well! I don't envy you though, I'm in my last semester... a lot less stress (other than when I'm piled with journal work). Let me know if you need any advice on that front!

I've been trying to up my water intake as well, and I typically get anywhere from 5-7 hours of sleep each night. I'm wired a little differently, sometimes I wake up after 5 hours on my own even though I have no where to be!


LL - so happy to hear it gets better. I'm killing myself to get C's at this point. Thank goodness for internships & the like :)


Well, I'm realizing today that the reason I don't drink water & only drink caffiene is BECAUSE I don't sleep. So I'm extra tired today. But still on the water wagon! :swim:

j0lamo01 01-24-2011 02:29 PM

One good substitute for coke is carbonated water I like the lemon and lime flavored ones they have no sugar or artificial sweeteners

XLMuffnTop 01-24-2011 02:33 PM

Oddly enough, I just read this article on CNN today regarding sleep and how it affects weight gain. It's geared mostly towards kids but seems there are similiar results for adults.

Vixsin 01-24-2011 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heather (Post 3671817)
:rofl:

I don't pay attention to my water intake, but I typically wake up several times in the night to pee!!

That's me. I have a travel container that I bring with me everywhere. I estimate that it holds roughly 32 oz. I feel that if I can fill this thing up 3 or 4 times in a day, I've had plenty of water.

Also, if I get up 2 or 3 times in a night to pee, I know I've had enough for that day. I'm up a minimum of twice a night usually. And I still manage to get enough sleep. LOL

fillupthesky 01-24-2011 04:31 PM

water is definitely the kicker for me. that's about all i drink, with the occasional cup of coffee (and i live in seattle!!). when i don't drink enough water, i can feel it the next day; i feel uber bloated and if it goes on for a few days, there is a difference on the scale.
also, i suffer from bouts of insomnia, and i get approx 3-4 hours of sleep per night when i do (for quite a few consecutive nights). i've never found it to impede my weight loss, but that's just me.
also, just so it doesn't interfere with your sleep, i would stop drinking water a couple of hours before bed. i hate waking up to use the bathroom, and if your anything like me, i have a hard time going back to bed.

kittycarlson 01-24-2011 05:08 PM

I'm a diet soda addict and had kicked the habit. Fell of the wagon at Christmas and I guess when I went back on plan I kept drinking diet soda maybe 8 per day. Well last week I gained instead of lost despite having a clean week food wise. So I was wondering about the diet soda too. Does anyone understand the stuff about aspartame??? I know they say it gain raise blood sugar but I don't know if that should cause weight gain if you don't eat in response to the spikes. Anyway I am on water this week with a cup of green tea in the AM. I hadn't heard carbonated beverages are bad. Why?

Heather 01-24-2011 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by XLMuffnTop (Post 3672640)
Oddly enough, I just read this article on CNN today regarding sleep and how it affects weight gain. It's geared mostly towards kids but seems there are similiar results for adults.

Sadly, whoever wrote that article confused correlation with causation. The research showed that "children who had regular sleep schedules and slept the recommended number of hours per night had the least risk of being obese or having unhealthy blood markers. In contrast, children who slept the least and had irregular sleep schedules had more than a fourfold increase in the risk of being obese and having unhealthy blood markers that indicate the beginning of other conditions."

However, because they didn't perform an experiment and manipulate the sleep people got, all we know is that sleep relates to risk of obesity. But we have no way of knowing if it's causing obesity, or if obesity causes kids to sleep more, or if something else causes both more sleep and obesity.


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