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juliastl27 08-30-2009 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunnigummi (Post 2901519)
BTW, don't get me started on Alli. The pill that makes you leak your undies if you eat too much fat. They recommend wearing dark pants while on the drug. Um. Seriously, I'll keep my weight, thanks.

yeah, my sister did that too and lost 40 lbs. she said its constant diarrhea/stomach cramps and RUNNING to the bathroom the whole time you're on it even if you dont eat too much fat.

id rather take the long road, lol.

nelie 08-30-2009 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sunflowergirl68 (Post 2901461)
Honestly, I've tried OTC ones, and they don't unfortunately work that well for me. :-(

Well the same ingredients in Dr Natura are available in a health food store. Also, the tea is habit forming and I'm not sure if Dr Natura tells you that. My husband actually accidentally bought the tea at a asian grocery store. I had to tell him it was a laxative tea.

Sunnigummi 08-30-2009 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nelie (Post 2901983)
My husband actually accidentally bought the tea at a asian grocery store. I had to tell him it was a laxative tea.

You're a nice wife. ;)

As far as all these detoxes and such go, I just think no matter what you do, you have to WANT to lose weight and be committed. These quick fixes are just that - quick and they don't teach you anything in the long run. Maybe with the whole cutting out sugars and all that stuff, it might teach you not to be dependent on them, but for some reason, that doesn't come to mind when I think detox. It's all these quack diets that come to mind. :)

ICUwishing 08-31-2009 08:58 AM

I like the concept of a detox as part of a ritual - the marking of a milestone. That being said, I learned my lessons the hard way by fad-dieting my way up to my highest weight. I guess what's changed is that "detox" to me is more along the lines of the SB one, or Ultrametabolism (my fave), or the Paleo. "Detox" just means going back to eating nothing but what I was designed to eat.

Rituals can be very powerful, and could be part of that COMMITMENT that helps with bullying through those times when the motivation just isn't there.

ruby2sday 08-31-2009 11:30 AM

I don't particularly agree with the cleanses out there, but as far as some plans that have a phase of detox, I think it can be a good idea. Again, everything is so dependant on who you are and what works for you.

For me, being on phase 1 of south beach wasn't about losing a ton of water weight quickly, as some have posted. For me, it was about regaining control of my eating and food. It was a way to flush the junk out and get rid of the nasty sugar cravings. Yes, I lost a good portion of my weight in those 2 weeks, but it is still weight gone, and also helped motivate me to keep going. I wasn't looking for a quick fix, just a way to get control. I felt better than I had in years.

For me, that 2 weeks helped me a lot, mentally and physically.

Just my opinion.

juliastl27 08-31-2009 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ruby2sday (Post 2903274)
I don't particularly agree with the cleanses out there, but as far as some plans that have a phase of detox, I think it can be a good idea. Again, everything is so dependant on who you are and what works for you.

For me, being on phase 1 of south beach wasn't about losing a ton of water weight quickly, as some have posted. For me, it was about regaining control of my eating and food. It was a way to flush the junk out and get rid of the nasty sugar cravings. Yes, I lost a good portion of my weight in those 2 weeks, but it is still weight gone, and also helped motivate me to keep going. I wasn't looking for a quick fix, just a way to get control. I felt better than I had in years.

For me, that 2 weeks helped me a lot, mentally and physically.

Just my opinion.

i think a lot of us were looking at detox more as the "cleanses" and not the induction phases offered by some plans. its important to clarify that.

nelie 08-31-2009 01:59 PM

Yeah, I wouldn't consider phase 1 of SBD to be a detox. Detoxes usually involve doing some extreme things like drinking only juice (or water) for a week or taking laxatives multiple times per day, etc.

I was reading a pretty good article not too long ago that said basically detoxes are a way to make anorexia sound acceptable. Instead of saying "I'm not eating anything for the next week", you say "I'm on a detox" and every one thinks you are doing something good for yourself when you really aren't.

pucedaisy 08-31-2009 08:47 PM

If the "cleanse" means to "eat clean," then yeah, its a good thing. Quit soda, sugar, simple carbs, fast food- that is a GREAT start to weight loss. These foods tend to reinforce cravings for these foods. When we first start a weight loss plan, we are sometimes a little more jazzed up, and making changes is sort of exciting. No time like the present to quit the junk and start habits for eating healthy foods. Giving up the junk (and all the sugars and sodium that come with it) will often result in a quick loss of water weight and bloating, which may not be the same as long-term weight loss, but it can be a big motivator, and who doesn't need that?

If by "cleanse" one means a "colon cleanse" any sort of diet that your gut (or your brain) tells you is radical and not nutritious in the long run, its just bunk. Your gastrointestinal tract is self-cleansing, and if you eat good foods and not too much of them, your body will take care of itself.

The most important part of losing weight is learning to nourish yourself in a way that sustains your body at the weight you feel comfortable with, forever.

darcie2009 09-08-2009 01:50 PM

Hi! I really think detox is very good for you. I have studied it and tried many products and juice fasts. I traveled around to many detox retreats too and must say, i not only lost weight, but changed my whole way of eating, and feel 10 years younger. I used to be tired all the time and was anemic. After my detox I was no longer anemic, and had tons of energy that is still lasting daily. I tried making my own juice for a while, but it got so time consuming to make and expensive, that I after looking around to find an alternative, I recently purchased a ready-to-drink beverage called Simplifast fasting beverages. I must say I was surprised at the results. I lost little over 10 additional pounds in about 4 days. I never felt weak or dizzy, no bad effects. Its listed as All Natural without preservatives and stimulants, and all 3 flavors tastes really good, I was impressed to see a company live out their claims as they have. I drink one everyday now for breakfast, and have a salad or something light at lunch and what ever I want at dinner, and have not gained a pound back. This drink gave me more natural energy and when you drink it you feel the effects immediately. I actually crave simplifast instead of carbonated energy drinks and diet sodas. I am telling you this stuff works! I wish there were more healthy options on the market other than the false food and beverage claims from manufactures. Always look at the ingredients, if you don't know look it up. you will be surprised at the bad crap that is in what products claim to be "Healthy"

darcie2009 09-08-2009 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nelie (Post 2903551)
Yeah, I wouldn't consider phase 1 of SBD to be a detox. Detoxes usually involve doing some extreme things like drinking only juice (or water) for a week or taking laxatives multiple times per day, etc.

I was reading a pretty good article not too long ago that said basically detoxes are a way to make anorexia sound acceptable. Instead of saying "I'm not eating anything for the next week", you say "I'm on a detox" and every one thinks you are doing something good for yourself when you really aren't.

sorry just saw your comment. I just wanted to mention something. Taking laxatives and forcing your body to purge just isnt so great. Neither is not feeding your body any nutrients, while fasting. But there are ways to detox/fast in a healthy and effective way, that really do make great changes to body and mind. I have been fasting for years, and now I use a all natural drink called Simplifast to fast with. its a ready-to-drink fasting beverage designed to do the opposite of what you described. It has lots of electrolytes and vitamins and high fiber, to keep you healthy and energetic without passing out and depleting the body. I do agree a water fast or a plain juice fast can be intense and not so healthy, but when you can find a healthy option that works, then detox can be good. Its just that up until now, there were no healthy options for people, because even thought juice is good for you, it still lacks some of the important nutrients that the body needs. So its more about using the right product and being smart, using what makes you feel good. And detox and fasting has helped lots of people, and still does.

rachinma 09-08-2009 02:58 PM

I detox 2x a year. 1 week of only water, raw veggies and fruit, and 100% cranberry juice mixed with H2O and 1T flaxseed (2x a day). Plus, I take senna tea every other day.

I have digestive issues and this really helps me. It does not, though, help me lose weight.

nelie 09-08-2009 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by darcie2009 (Post 2915425)
sorry just saw your comment. I just wanted to mention something. Taking laxatives and forcing your body to purge just isnt so great. Neither is not feeding your body any nutrients, while fasting. But there are ways to detox/fast in a healthy and effective way, that really do make great changes to body and mind. I have been fasting for years, and now I use a all natural drink called Simplifast to fast with. its a ready-to-drink fasting beverage designed to do the opposite of what you described. It has lots of electrolytes and vitamins and high fiber, to keep you healthy and energetic without passing out and depleting the body. I do agree a water fast or a plain juice fast can be intense and not so healthy, but when you can find a healthy option that works, then detox can be good. Its just that up until now, there were no healthy options for people, because even thought juice is good for you, it still lacks some of the important nutrients that the body needs. So its more about using the right product and being smart, using what makes you feel good. And detox and fasting has helped lots of people, and still does.

I went and looked it up and it has the following ingredients:
Filtered Water, Lemon Juice (not from concentrate,) Organic Maple Syrup Grade-B, Fibersol-2, Natural Flavor, Fruit and Vegetable Juice for Color, Monopotassium Phosphate, Salt, Guarana Seed Extract.

So basically, is a twist of the master cleanse in a bottle which is not what I'd consider healthy.

rachinma 09-08-2009 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by nelie (Post 2915562)
I went and looked it up and it has the following ingredients:
Filtered Water, Lemon Juice (not from concentrate,) Organic Maple Syrup Grade-B, Fibersol-2, Natural Flavor, Fruit and Vegetable Juice for Color, Monopotassium Phosphate, Salt, Guarana Seed Extract.

So basically, is a twist of the master cleanse in a bottle which is not what I'd consider healthy.

LOL.

juliastl27 09-08-2009 06:39 PM

i think maybe someone owns stock in this company....

sherrybwc 09-08-2009 11:09 PM

Bunk.


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