She's creating an empire around her name. While it disturbs me to some degree, it's not any different than Oprah or Rachel Ray, or any other person out there who started more modestly. I think she's probably a heck of a trainer, though not for all people. I don't think she should be pushing pills, either, but...

I do not know how all of these elements combine, but I think people should think about this--

One element can be dangerous, but when combined with another can be quite safe--or vise versa. Nitrogen is found in food. It's also found in cyanides. I remember a lady at work telling me a little over a year ago that she'll no longer use splenda because it has the same elements in it that fomaldehyde does. Well, yes, yes it does, but the reason that it doesn't actually embalm your insides has to do with the OTHER elements in it. I still choose splenda over her aspertame.

Again, I don't know if these particular pills are safe or not, and I'm not going to take them, but remember that combining chemicals and ingredients makes them much different than their individual components. Or,you know, don't--but stop using splenda! :D

Boy, I'd like to give her a good spankin' for this move ;)

I wouldn't say profit is a bad word but I'd say profit for sake of name degredation is a bad word. Her Wii game got a lot of bad press and could've been a really good game, if she had fought for it but it seemed she was willing to let them slap her name on a mediocre product (amazon reviews for it are horrid). A diet pill? We all know diet pills don't work. This pill has ingredients that are dangerous and can contradict other medication as well and the problem is she is touting it as all natural. Again, I'd say she is letting them slap her name on a mediocre product. What happens if someone takes it and dies? The supplement companies recover easily from deaths as they just reformulate under a different name. She won't be able to do that.

It is incredibly sad that people sell out for extra money full well knowing that it is not healthy, safe and people do not need that crap to lose weight. She lost her credibility in my eyes....

I think anybody advertising "QuickStart Rapid Weight Loss System" in big letters is not looking after anyone's best interests. They're making money at the expense of sustainable healthy living. It's selling out. Legal, sure. Impressive, **** no.

Even Richard Simmons pushes a variety of products on his website...including pills.

Since pintobean is a member of Jillian's website, she posted this earlier in this thread which indicates, to me, that the pill promo by Jillian is valid (meaning she gave the company her okay not that the pills are legit..does this make sense? lol :D )

The post I am talking about can be found here - http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/2875349-post13.html

I guess it surprises me that anyone is surprised. The whole focus of The Biggest Loser has always been primarily on rapid weight loss, regardless of the possible consequences of the methods. I know they do take some medical precautions, but mostly the attitude on the show is that the risks of injury and illness are "worth it." If the BL trainers are unconcerned about sprains, strains, stress fractures, heat stress, exercise-induced asthma and other overwork injuries we've seen on the show, why would the risks of supplements be a concern?

To me, it's a perfectly logical extension of the "ends justifies the means" philosophy of the show. If it's ok to push your body beyond it's natural limits with intense exercise, it's not a big jump to be willing to do so with supplements.

Has anyone ever bought anything from someone who didn't want to make money? I'm just curious.

I think its great that she has something she believes in and stands behind it. Whether or not people want to buy it is up to them.

I like jillian, but I would never blindly follow anyone. if I hear something interesting to me I follow up with my own research.

She is not a superhero. She's just a person who is following her own interests and has been quite successful. Good for her. Take what you like, leave the rest.

Anyone who is on medication should check with their doctor before taking any supplements for contraindication, regardless of the brand.

Ouch!!! that's a real disappointment. Instead of putting her name and face on a diet pill how about she put forth the effort to create a cookbook to go along with her books?

That's not the point. Making a living is not unethical. Making money by taking advantage of people is something else.

This is the problem. Either the above is true (that she is taking advantage of people), or people are disappointed that she believes in this.

But I suppose kaplods is right, it's not surprising given the extremes on BL (I say suppose because I don't watch the show). But it's still bad.

2 separate things -- TBL focuses on diet and exercise.These pills are promoted by Jillian on her website. Completely unrelated to NBC and TBL.

And just to be PERFECTLY clear: people are pretty resilient beings, and very very few have had significant issues with the training program they willingly participate with. No one forces them to do this. And I'm surprised at the high number who become personal trainers at the end -- it seems to me that if they were pushing people beyond their natural limits, there would be WAY more issues than they have. And last time I checked, no one forced anyone to complete the tasks. We all have free will. Some choose this form of exercise program. Sounds like some of us are afraid to test our physical limits, IMHO...

In any event, these diet pills are in NO WAY related to TBL. They are the product of Jillian Michael's personal marketing plan. She may have exposure on TBL, but TBL does not market nor partake of profit percentages from Jillian's website. So don't make this into a debate about TBL, please??? There is a separate forum for that...

I think what is disappointing is that Jillian seems to have always been anti-diet pill. And here she is selling her own now. And if you look at the ingredients, they aren't much different from those in the banned ephedra-free Hydroxycut formulations. I think she has confused "natural" with "always healthy".

Diet pills are a 60 million dollar a year business. She wants her slice of the pie. Free market. I choose not to partake of them. And I feel sad that she has chosen profits over her previous public statements that diet pills are not the answer...

And I EXPECT to see a video on You Tube of Mr EZ spanking Jillian...Ya hear me, Mr. EZ! Get on that!!! STAT!!! :rofl:

Kira

personally i think that anyone who pushes diet pills is taking advantage of desperate people and bilking them out of hard earned money. theyre also probably doing more damage to those people who will get more frustrated when the pills dont work and maybe even give up. she has made her name by going about things the right way, so shes in a better position than most to convince people that her product "really works". (i.e. "im alll about losing weight the right way! if im endorsing this, it MUST be good for you and effective!") im not as outraged because im never terribly surprised when someone who has made a name for themselves uses it to get rich, but i think its sad for all the misguided souls who buy these pills expecting big results.

That is crazy how she is saying that she's "always been pro supplements."

I too did not like Master Your Metabolism because of the fanatic approach to organics. I even gave it a good old try once...I drove about 50 miles out of my way to go to a store that actually sold half the crap she suggested getting, spent 200 dollars on only a weeks worth of organic groceries and spent even more on organic shampoo, conditioner, laundry soap and dish washer detergent. The shampoo and conditioner left my hair feeling greasy and disgusting, and the dish washer detergent left all my dishes with this nasty white film on them. So I decided I can't afford to buy organic groceries and throw out everything in my house that is made out of plastic and that I'd rather have products with 'chemicals' in them that actually do what they're supposed to do.

And in the ingredients list of her pills is something called CLA which she talks about in her book MYM pg 95: "Important note: The benefits of CLAs have NOT been demonstrated in supplemental form. In fact, several studies have linked CLA supplements to increased risk of insulin resistance, so please don't supplement with CLAs." So why would she put that in her supplements?

I'm not disappointed in her for trying to make money, I'm disappointed because of the contradiction of what she's been preaching in the past. And that she's preying apon the desperate wish for there to be a 'magic' pill for weight loss.
I love her dvd workouts and the information in "winning by losing." I will continue to use these products but I will not be buying her pills.