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TryinAgain5402 03-12-2009 08:44 AM

I give up...
 
Not sure what I've done or if the forums have there own members and don't like outsiders. I've asked the moderators for help with ticker issues that arent addressed in the FAQs - no response. I've tried to get involved with some of the forums and again, no acknowledgement; seems responses are only for a select few. I've come back and tried a few times. I think doing it on my own is preferrable to being ignored.
I just wish everyone would be open to newcomers wishing to be part of a group. New people need more than the "we're here for you" messages on the first day

Lori Bell 03-12-2009 08:56 AM

Sorry you are feeling left out. I hope you reconsider the giving up part. I looked back over your last few posts and in the last year you have posted less than a dozen times. It's really hard to get noticed when you rarely post. If you want to lose weight, you'll do it. I hope you don't give up on that part.

LittleMoonRabbit 03-12-2009 08:59 AM

Trying,

I am sorry you feel that way. Don't give up on 3FC. This board is just soo big. I know that it's hard to fit into a group sometimes, or sometimes posts do go unanswered (it has happened to me before). Have you tried maybe just joining one particular group, and focusing all your energy on there? Have you PMed anyone? I have been to other message boards, and honestly, this one has them all beat as far as response goes... I think it just takes a little time.

Either way, I am sorry you feel the way you do, and regardless of whether or not you stick with 3FC I hope that you do well on your weight loss journey.

sept15lija 03-12-2009 09:01 AM

I'm sorry you feel like that - I know it can be hard to feel like you belong when the board is so big. I agree with the previous poster, the best thing to do is to post away! I'm "new" here again and it can take a while to feel like you belong. Just keep reading and posting, don't give up...this board is a great place for support. Have you tried asking general members for help with the tickers? Someone may be able to help.

healthierme78 03-12-2009 09:46 AM

The tickers took me a while to figure out too. You have to copy and post the html code that is created in your signature and then you can preview it. Try going to www.3fatchicks.com/diet/weight-tracker/

Once you get that code, copy it and then go to your signature at
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/prof...=editsignature
and paste it there in the field at the bottom. You can preview it there.

In regards to groups, try finding a support buddy or two with similar goals. I have a few and it works out well to keep up the motivation so far. Good luck and don't give up. :D

Jacquie668 03-12-2009 09:50 AM

I agree, don't give up. I think people are often busy and only respond to things they feel they need to within their time limit. I can tell you that there are times when my posts go without any sort of response. It is just like with any conversation, sometimes people and/or topics are passed over and other times they are not. I don't think it is personal or intentional is what I'm saying. I mean a month or so ago I posted in a particular forum for my age and no one even noticed me introducing myself. lol...it happens to all of us.

One tip is to try to get involved in the weekly threads. As for the ticker, I just copied and pasted the code into my signature. What exactly is the problem with your ticker?

Jen415 03-12-2009 10:54 AM

I agree with Lori and others....the more you post, the more people can get to know you.

That being said....I have felt invisible here sometimes too. I feel pretty invisible on my Biggest Loser team this time. But that's okay--I'm posting for myself anyway.

Ruthxxx 03-12-2009 11:04 AM

Oh my! How did we miss this ticker problem? I'll PM TryinAgain and help her out one on one.

yoyoma 03-12-2009 11:15 AM

Personally, I am not very comfortable starting threads. Part of that is not wanting to stress out over whether I get any responses. I'm more comfortable lurking and posting in other folk's threads whenever I feel I have a little something to add. That has been working pretty well for me.

Even though I don't start threads, I find reading and posting a little very helpful in keeping me on track.

I hope that you find find an approach that works for you, both in the forums and in your lifestyle. Good luck!

kaplods 03-12-2009 11:17 AM

One thing to try to remember is that most people aren't going to know whether you're new or not, or how many times you've posted...this isn't like a party of maybe a dozen people, who would notice when someone new comes into the room. No one's intentionally snubbing you.

It's almost like walking into a mall, it isn't likely that someone is going to recognize that you're new, take you under their wing and show you how to navigate the mall.

This place is just crowded, and like any crowd you've got to really speak up to be noticed, and still sometimes you won't be. Even those of us who are very active on the boards routinely experience what you are experiencing. You ask a question or make a comment and....... nothing. We even have a name for it "thread killing." If I can find the thread I'll link it here so you can read what I'm talking about.

There are many reasons your post could have been overlooked or missed, and intentional snubbing and cliquishness probably is last on the list. Because of the way in which many of us browse the site, we don't even know who is new and who isn't. I have a very bad memory for names, and so I recognize only a few usernames here. I usually don't even pay attention to who is posting, or how long someone has been here, unless they draw attention to the fact.

Some tips, though that might help.

If you want to talk to the moderators, use PM (Private Message, there's a link up on the upper right corner of the screen). Posting in a thread, may not be noticed (they can't be everywhere at all times, and don't have the time to read every single post).

Expect at least 3/4 of your messages to go without a response. I know that seems horrible, but those were pretty much the odds when I started. I'd say I've got it down to 1/4 now, but not because people are recognizing me and being nice or paying attention because of it - rather I've learned through trial and error how to write in a way that gets a response (if that is what I'm needing).

You've got to be very outgoing to get noticed (not that much different than real life in large, crowded groups. It's like trying to make friends in college in a lecture hall of 400 students, or at a huge business conference. You've got to really stand out for folks to notice).

Slashnl 03-12-2009 11:28 AM

Good post, Kaplods. I just wanted to add that there are so many parts of this forum that I don't go to or don't participate in. I've found a couple of places that feel comfortable to me and that's where I stay. But I've had posts ignored, too. Oh well! I still enjoy the comments from everyone.

I hope you decide to try again.

Scarlet 03-12-2009 11:29 AM

I hope that you see how many people have reached out to you with this thread...

I find joining a challenge helps to connect with other people..Also, I only post in a few areas of the site, but post there often, and really I do it for myself more than anything else...if I get a response it's great, but the most important thing is I am announcing to myself how I feel...

Please stay here, and you will get out of the site more as you post and participate....at least that's what has worked for me....Good luck!!

flatiron 03-12-2009 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaplods (Post 2651468)
No one's intentionally snubbing you.

It's almost like walking into a mall, it isn't likely that someone is going to recognize that you're new, take you under their wing and show you how to navigate the mall.

Great analogy kaplods!

Yes I'm new and I even a "man" (ewwwwwwww!) LOL!

Like in any social situation it takes a while for people to recognize your screen name. This is a very friendly place, newcomers are not snubbed for sure!

Maybe it might help to get known just in one or two sub sections? I only visit about 3 of them myself.

And if it is responses you are looking for just post a few controversial posts or something like.

"I am going to eat once a day and only eat 600 calories a day, what do yall think about that?" LOL!

I GUARENTEE you'll get a lot of responses! HA!

... no seriously just start posting and you will soon be in the thick of it... this place is VERY addicting! LOL! I check it out FIRST thing now! :D

moonkissed 03-12-2009 01:57 PM

Everyone gave alot of good responses to you and I really hope you atleast check back here and decide to stay :) This site is a great support system :hug:

I am a huge forum whore lol. I have joined and even run so many forums I can't even keep track sometimes lol. It is really hard when you are new. Not because people are snobs or don't like new people but really it is our own feelings that make us feel like that.

We read posts and see how friendly people are to one another and how they connect, but really it is that many of them know each other and have been talking back and forth for awhile now. And I am sure they would love more people to talk to we just pysch ourselves out, it makes us feel left out or like the akward new kid lol. The only thing that really helps is just jumping in and speaking up.

Lurk for a bit and really get the feel of what each different sub-forum is all about and which ones are more popular then others. There will always be a specific topic that gets way less attention then the others. Secondly respond to others posts! I love reading all the other threads and get to know other people and even saying congrats or offering encouragement to others really gets your name out there more and helps you feel like more part of the group.

When you make a post really take time to word it well, make sure you post it in the right topic area, Don't make it too long or too short. Like this is probably way too long no one will read it lmao. pay attention to the activity of the board at that time. Sometimes posts get skipped over just because they ended up getting posted at a bad time and other posts quickly lose them. Lastly don't take offense if no one responds. Sometimes people just didn't have anything to say or those who would just didn't get a chance to read it. Sometimes it takes a while to get responses. I posted one thread that just sat there for what felt like ever empty and then one day I just got a ton of replies lol

mizski 03-12-2009 06:23 PM

It takes a while for people to get to know you so it helps if you post often. Also, as a veteran of many message boards over the years, some people prefer seeing somewhat familiar names before they invest time in personal responses. It is somewhat disheartening to put a lot of time and effort into a personal response only to find out that person never came back online to maybe read it.

I tend to post all over the place and I don't usually have anything really profound to say. LOL So, these people probably aren't going to respond to MY post. That's ok because maybe I said something useful for someone. If nothing else, I made the comment I wanted to make. :)

I do post in a couple of forums regularly and those people are beginning to get to know me and I'm getting more responses to my posts there.

Hang in there...3FC really does have a place for everyone. :)

Daimere 03-12-2009 07:29 PM

Do not do not give up! 3FC is amazing and great. Try joining groups. It takes a while to get responses. I didn't even know that in 2007 people here noticed me but when I came back having regained, people were saying, "You know, you were so inspiring to me. *hug*" It was amazing. I didn't even know it.

cfmama 03-12-2009 08:06 PM

You posted 3 times in 2008.
5 times in 2009.

THAT'S IT!!!! You need to get out there! Post on weekly threads... post to GIVE SUPPORT as opposed to just getting support! To have a community you have to be PART of that community! So get posting, offer support and before you know it... you'll be the popular one at the ball :)

grneyedmustang 03-12-2009 08:24 PM

To her defense, I will say there are parts of the board that do appear more "clique-ish" than others.

With that being said, on the flip side, I have met some GREAT people here that I keep in touch with via PM. You never know what someone is going through...so if something they say "hits home" with you, send them a PM - even if it's just the little hug smiley.

Sometimes that goes a long way with making friends.

Pandora123a 03-13-2009 04:14 AM

I agree with grneyedmustang. When I first came I "joined" a forum. No one was rude, but no one was really welcoming either. They were a group and there didn't seem to be much room to break in.

Now I pretty much stick to the Weight loss forum and the 100 pound club. Both are active and open. As others have said, some posts get a ton of responses, others not much. I've noticed that if there aren't some quick responses to keep the thread pretty high and fresh it sinks into oblivion.

Also, at one time I was very conscientious about making lots of comments. Now, if what I think has been said, I don't post just to post. I'm also a bit lazier about welcomes...I'll try to be better.

As Kaplods said, I also don't register most screen names. There are about a dozen folks I actively "recognize". The rest are here and welcome but I can't tell you when they joined.

Ruthxxx 03-13-2009 07:53 AM

Yes, posting a lot really helps. To quote one of our wise moderators
Quote:

If you feel apart from the crowd ... you should check to see who stepped away.

TryinAgain5402 03-13-2009 08:54 PM

Something drove me to check back today - I'm embarassed to see how wrong I was. Like everyone else, life's problems seem to be getting worse by the day. I responded to a couple of threads looking to be a part of something that didn't materialize: I took the lack of response personnally. Thank you to all for your support; it means more than you'll every know.

Shannon in ATL 03-13-2009 09:28 PM

Hang in there sweetie. :) Like other people have said already, it isn't anyone leaving you out on purpose, it is just a big place. I posted a lot of things before I found somewhere I felt comfy, too, but now I have two forums I'm pretty active it. It can be done!
:hug:

kaplods 03-13-2009 09:38 PM

I think here (and often in real-life too) to be actively embraced by any group (especially if it's established), you almost need a very outgoing personality and a thick skin (ideally thick enough not to even notice when you're not being noticed). If you aren't that kind of person, you sometimes can get in when someone who does have those personality traits takes you under their wing. In real-life, we call it cliquishness, but I think it's really just fear. The "new person" is often intimidated at the prospect of introducinghim/herself to the crowd, and may be overlooked, because most of the established members may feel just as intimidated. One of the reasons many clubs have welcoming committees is because of this very thing. Meeting people is awkward, whether you're old or new. What makes it hard here, at least outside the Introductions forum, is that many of us aren't paying attention to who we're talking to - so we don't have a clue who might need a little extra support.

My mom thinks I'm a freak. Even when I was a very small child, I went up to people and just started talking (usually to my mother's horror). I was oblivious to her concern - at least during the situation. Getting to SHUT me up was (and is) the bigger problem (yet in a large group, I also feel very awkward with introductions).

My Mom is very socially awkward, and is always concerned she is being judged. Whether she's new or not, she complains about how "unfriendly" everyone is (even to anyone who makes a gesture, she'll give a compliment that can almost seem backhanded, "I'm so shocked to have someone say hello to me, everyone here is so unfriendly," a person who likes the other people in the club doesn't know what to say or how to respond to that).

Here I don't think it's exactly the same, because we can be chatting away with someone and have no idea whether they started here today or have been here from the beginning.

I've posted in groups to which I definitely don't belong, and have been welcomed - but I'm also very proficient at the verbal equivalent to double dutch - I just jump right in and start yammering (or maybe it's more the equivalent of a spaghetti western - going in with guns blazing). If no one seems to have been suitably attentive or impressed by my profound wisdom - I may even repeat myself.

There are a couple of groups that I have felt completely out of place - but I no longer suspect that people were intentionally ignoring me. Rather if I look at the thread and my post more closely, what I want to talk about isn't really important to that group.

Another thing that happens sometimes, is I'll get no response to one of my mini-novels, and think that I offended someone or something because there was no response. Then a person or two PM's me and says how much they like and find themselves nodding to themselves when reading my posts (not always noting specifically which ones, but sometimes to the ones that received no reply).

It makes me wonder, how many people think "that is so true," but never think to respond. Maybe they're intimidated at posting at all, maybe they think they'd feel stupid if they had nothing more to add than saying "how true," maybe they didn't have time and then forgot (I left a person hanging for a week after a PM, because I had forgotten that I hadn't sent my reply - I had saved it to respond to later, because I had to get to an appointment, and then forgot).

I also have a bad habit of only checking "new" posts, rather than subscribing to threads. This means that if I overlook a thread, I won't see it again until someone else posts. This can look like I'm ignoring someone who is trying to talk to me. I've gotten a PM or two asking why I refused to respond (talk about embarassing, when you don't reply to a thread you started).

I think the bulletin board analogy really is perfect. Imagine if this site were in real life - a huge bulletin board the size of a football field, and we were all trying to communicate by leaving notes for other folks, who left notes posted nearby to respond. Can you imagine how difficult it would be for people to find and notice our notes, and for us to find and notice the replies and for the people to notice our reply to their reply....

DCHound 03-13-2009 09:51 PM

Excuse me; I'm going to raise my voice for a second:

KAPLODS WILL YOU PLEASE WRITE A BOOK.

(Assuming you aren't published already.)

You are an amazing writer. I'm a writer myself so I'm a pretty good judge, I think. I'm one of those who doesn't respond to you much but I find myself nodding along with every single one of your posts. PLEASE write a book. You are an amazingly good and very profound writer.

Now back to your regularly scheduled thread. (Oh, and TryingAgain5402, glad you read the thread and welcome back!)

ringmaster 03-13-2009 10:19 PM

I'm a newbie here too. Maybe there can be a new people's group?

srmb60 03-13-2009 10:53 PM

Kaplods said this ... It makes me wonder, how many people think "that is so true," but never think to respond.

Very true! I read and think "I agree" but I surely don't post that every time. Also ... If someone has already posted about what I think, I don't repeat it. And yes, I have forgotten to go back and respond. I've even forgotten that I've asked a question.

Here's my tip for folks who are having trouble feeling 'fit in'. Find a few posters who you appreciate. Find more of their posts and read there. If you appreciate someone's situation or method or style ... you'll probably enjoy their threads-of-choice as well.

kaplods 03-13-2009 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCHound (Post 2653993)
Excuse me; I'm going to raise my voice for a second:

KAPLODS WILL YOU PLEASE WRITE A BOOK.

(Assuming you aren't published already.)

Thanks so much!

Hubby has been nagging and nudging on this very topic, and this week blew a bit of a gasket over it. - I keep talking about various writing projects, most of which haven't gotten past the planning stage. He says the amount of writing I've done on 3FC probably is the equivalent of a book by now (I wonder if there's an easy way to print out all my former posts to use as reasearch on the topic).

I have promised him to put aside all of my hobbies and write, instead. I'm supposed to spend half my time here and half my time writing my book (a novel), but I haven't gotten that balance yet (it's more 80/20 or maybe even 90/10).

We're moving in a few months, so part of me keeps wanting to put it off until "after the move," but I realize I've been putting my writing on hold for one reason or another since 1992 (When I got my first and only publication, a short story on a magazine - it's on my 3FC Blog (oh poop, I haven't blogged in a while, I'd better see if it's still there).

Sorry for the hijack, everybody

shcirerf 03-14-2009 12:36 AM

Great posts and advice all!:hug:

I haven't been at this forum very long and still haven't quite gotten comfy, but that's ok. I have some great friends on other forum boards. They aren't diet boards. One is a board with a company where I do online business, made a ton of great friends and learned a lot.

In the mean time, although I made lots of good friends, there were a few of us you could call rednecks. So one of these great ladies started her own forum board. I'm comfy in both places, the biz one is a bit more formal, but we still chit chat about biz and life, babies, weddings, illness, etc. and congratulate each other and hold each others hands. The more redneck informal board is much more liberal in what we say, we can swear, whine, b****h and moan.

All that being said, forum boards are a whole different climate than real life.

I have friends all over the world (England, Australia, Boston, Florida, South Carolina, Norway, Sweden, Okinawa) that I've met on boards, all great folks, different ages, family situations, lifestyles, single, married, kids, no kids, military, opera singer, retired, working, farming, gay, straight, and on and on. I don't expect an immediate response to a post because we all have lives in the real world and real time. If I ask Moon a ? I don't expect for her to respond for at least 12 hours, she lives in England, I live in Nebraska. Time zones.

Forums are like any other form of communication, you have to get used to the ebb and flow of what is going on. Texting, email, chat rooms, instant messaging, phone calls, real life conversations, all have an ebb and flow of how they work. Hang in there, you'll figure it out.

Ok, how's that for jumping in and hijacking the thread?

I really am very outspoken, just hanging out and getting the hang of 3fc.

What I really love to do on boards is play the devils advocate. Not to be mean, but to make people think. This comes from working for a newspaper and getting all the complaints from folks who didn't like the editorial cartoons are articles we ran. I used to tell the folks that called and complained, "I understand why you did not like xyz, but it made you think didn't it? If we would not have published it, you would have never thought what you're thinking. So we stimulated your brain"

Ok, I've rattled enough for one night, must go post my12377 steps in the team wolf thread.

Have a good weekend all!

JulieJ08 03-16-2009 12:16 PM

Here's one reason some responses may not get written - if the post is long, or more often, the thread is long and involved, I'm hesitant to post about some little point when I haven't thoroughly read the post / thread and don't really have the time to respond carefully, especially if what I'm inclined to say might possibly bother someone. Lately it seems I only have time to scan, and I've seen so many threads go sour over people feeling misunderstood, which often happens when you just post the little point you want to make without writing an additional paragraph explaining what you're NOT trying to say. :) And of course, it's the really interesting threads that are complicated :)


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