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sweetlovin 08-20-2007 01:33 PM

Beginning a juice fast.
 
Starting tommorrow (tuesday) I will be beginning a juice fast.


"Juice fasting is a type of fasting and detox diet in which the practitioner consumes only fruit and vegetable juices. Being available only in digestible carbohydrates, these foods are digested rapidly as the juice digestion process expends only a small amount of energy. People choose to undergo juice fasts for various reasons and via various methods."

I am doing it to jumpstart my weight loss

FOr the first 10 days, I will be on a strict juice fast with the occasional raw vegetable/head lettuce (which is the same as lettuce really)

the next 15 days, I will go on a raw foods diet. I will only eat uncooked food.


After that I will maintain my weight by going on a 1200-1300 calorie diet after that

Anytime I screw up, I will return to my original plan

afb0407 08-20-2007 01:42 PM

well its great that you are commited...but for some reason...that just doesnt seem practical??? or fun!!!! How much weight are you trying to loose??? and do you exercise???

sweetlovin 08-20-2007 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by afb0407 (Post 1822529)
well its great that you are commited...but for some reason...that just doesnt seem practical??? or fun!!!! How much weight are you trying to loose??? and do you exercise???

weight loss isnt really fun.


18 poounds
trying to exercise 2 hr a day

afb0407 08-20-2007 01:55 PM

lol i totally agree......weight loss STINKS!!!!....but needed i guess...just be sure to reward yourself with a small portion of somthing you enjoy eating every so often......i dont know if your like me....but i get burnt out on diets quickly if i dont often reward myself!!!

junebug41 08-20-2007 02:07 PM

Fair warning- any weight you lose while fasting will come back at full force when you start eating (raw or not). Also, people doing juice fasts SHOULD NOT BE EXERCISING 2 HOURS A DAY.

Fasting, juice or otherwise, is a method for spiritual-and some believe- physical health. I suggest you read up on why people do this and the theories behind it before you and your still-growing body embarks on a 25+ day fast. Also, judging by your previous threads I would suggest you speak with your doctor about this "plan".

witchyonadiet 08-20-2007 02:20 PM

Yeah - not to be a downer - if you are doing it for cleansing purposes or religious beliefs or whatever I would understand. But like any diet that is solely based on one food group or radical eating habit I agree that it will come back when you are done. And with the protein gone it would be dangerous to exercise two hours a day. Also - 1200 - 1300 calories a day is way too low and very unhealthy. You should seriously consult a doctor or nutritionist.

Mini-Me 08-20-2007 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by afb0407 (Post 1822549)
...just be sure to reward yourself with a small portion of somthing you enjoy eating every so often......i dont know if your like me....but i get burnt out on diets quickly if i dont often reward myself!!!

I think if 'food as reward' works for you, that's good, but for many people I think that other types of 'rewards' might be better.

"Food as Reward" for many people might be counter productive to adopting a new lifestyle that isn't 'food centric' and is more 'food is fuel' centric.

shananigans 08-20-2007 02:43 PM

Just wanted to echo that juice fasts are not intended for weight loss. You want to start new eating habits that will make you fitter and healthier for life and help you build sexy muscles with all that exercise you're doing, right? I can understand your "want it done yesterday" attitude, but unfortunately losing body fat at a healthy rate just isn't that fast.

I would suggest researching other plans that may be more suited to your goals. Do you have any interest in weight lifting? The Body for Life plan is pretty popular and ties nutrition and building a better body together in one program.

Lifeguard 08-20-2007 02:50 PM

Have you assessed with your doctor whether your goal is reasonable/healthy for you? I don't know your body obviously but according to bmi if you reach your goal it will be 17.9 which is well into the underweight category. Right now you're sitting at 20.5 which is low within the healthy range.

Maybe you should reevaluate your goals & start doing more weights so you can tone the areas you are unhappy with (I am assuming here that your 2 hours a day is cardio - which seems excessive).

I urge you to speak to your doctor about this - you sound a lot like my severely eating disordered SIL.

sweetlovin 08-20-2007 07:32 PM

I've done my research. On this website, it states:


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The main benefit offered by a fast, to those who wish to lose weight, is the speed of the weight loss. To see a person drop 30-to-40 pounds on a 30-day juice fast is to see a person totally transform his life. Self-esteem is given a boost and for the first time in their life, discipline becomes a lifestyle. The fast becomes a catalyst for a total life overhaul. People start dressing better, showing more confidence, becoming more organized, more dedicated in relationships and more at peace.
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Initially, weight loss can be as high as three-to-four pounds per day, but as the fast continues, the average loss will be one pound-per-day. If you are juice fasting and not losing weight, the juice is supplying all the calories you need. You may have to cut down on the juices or alternate between water fasting and juice fasting if losing weight is part of your goal. The slower your metabolism is the slower the weight loss.
more info

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You can see the pounds melt away on a daily basis. You don’t even feel hungry. But, do you lose weight, your health is improved and the skin regains is natural elasticity resulting in a youthful tone and more energy. You can’t get a better weight loss program than that.
http://www.healthrecipes.com/fast9.htm

This whole site provides me with tips on how to stay on the fast, why to be on a fast, etc

I think this will work

sweetlovin 08-20-2007 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lifeguard (Post 1822643)
Have you assessed with your doctor whether your goal is reasonable/healthy for you? I don't know your body obviously but according to bmi if you reach your goal it will be 17.9 which is well into the underweight category. Right now you're sitting at 20.5 which is low within the healthy range.

Maybe you should reevaluate your goals & start doing more weights so you can tone the areas you are unhappy with (I am assuming here that your 2 hours a day is cardio - which seems excessive).

I urge you to speak to your doctor about this - you sound a lot like my severely eating disordered SIL.

im sorry but bmi is a load of crap.

its has been saying healthy naturally thin people are unhealthy forever. All my friends online and off say they bmi's are low and it says they are underweight when really they are perfectly healthy. i dont listen to that bmi junk.


The doctor advice is good. They would know whether my weight is right for my frame and body structure but a online measurement tool made by some weirdo scientist that didnt take in consideration of other things? I think ill pass.

sweetlovin 08-20-2007 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shananigans (Post 1822626)
Just wanted to echo that juice fasts are not intended for weight loss. You want to start new eating habits that will make you fitter and healthier for life and help you build sexy muscles with all that exercise you're doing, right? I can understand your "want it done yesterday" attitude, but unfortunately losing body fat at a healthy rate just isn't that fast.

I would suggest researching other plans that may be more suited to your goals. Do you have any interest in weight lifting? The Body for Life plan is pretty popular and ties nutrition and building a better body together in one program.

Did you not hear my plan?

10 days fast- initial weight loss
10 days raw food diet- ongoing weight loss
1200-1400 calorie plan- maintenance mode

what happens if i screw up? start the plan again to lose the weight again

sweetlovin 08-20-2007 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by witchyonadiet (Post 1822582)
Yeah - not to be a downer - if you are doing it for cleansing purposes or religious beliefs or whatever I would understand. But like any diet that is solely based on one food group or radical eating habit I agree that it will come back when you are done. And with the protein gone it would be dangerous to exercise two hours a day. Also - 1200 - 1300 calories a day is way too low and very unhealthy. You should seriously consult a doctor or nutritionist.

no it wont. your basing this on a normals person weakness. Ive been able to maintain my weight at a 500 calorie diet for a year. my willpower can get to an all time high after a while of motivation

sweetlovin 08-20-2007 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by junebug41 (Post 1822562)
Fair warning- any weight you lose while fasting will come back at full force when you start eating (raw or not). Also, people doing juice fasts SHOULD NOT BE EXERCISING 2 HOURS A DAY.

Fasting, juice or otherwise, is a method for spiritual-and some believe- physical health. I suggest you read up on why people do this and the theories behind it before you and your still-growing body embarks on a 25+ day fast. Also, judging by your previous threads I would suggest you speak with your doctor about this "plan".

all my doctors tell me the same thing. "your healthy! your bmi is fine"

well guess what? At my height, i can gain an additional 20 pounds and still be "fine", "healthy". im doing what I want. THanks


Oh and im not trying to sound mean or anything. I am really happy about this board and how you guys are acheving your weight loss. You just have to realize that people have different plans, bodies and goals.

My sister is 5'11 and 200 pounds. She wants to lose 20 pounds. thats perfect, for her. My other sister weight 140 pounds at 5'9. She fine with her weight. thats perfect for her.

I weight 143 and im 5'10. thats not good for me

who knows, maybe someone thinks your weight is perfect but you want to drop 30 pounds. Some people love the chubby look and want to be your size (im not talking directly to anyone) but you dont like it and want to lose ## pounds. thats your opinion on youself. Most people on hear are just like me. DOing it for appearance and confidence

junebug41 08-20-2007 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetlovin (Post 1822921)
I've done my research. On this website, it states:






more info



http://www.healthrecipes.com/fast9.htm

This whole site provides me with tips on how to stay on the fast, why to be on a fast, etc

I think this will work

You can find tons of stuff on the internet that speaks for and against fasts. And I think most of them are crap. How is this a reputable site? And as someone who has studied this extensively from both sides, no professional would support a teenager at a healthy weight doing a fast for the purpose of losing weight. And quite frankly, fasting for the sole purpose of losing weight cheapens it and those on the internet supporting it are usually trying to sell you something.

Do not misunderstand me. I moved out of obesity by a self-made eating plan inspired by the raw diet. I have done fasts. But I have never done them to lose weight. And any weight I did lose came back straight away, even if I was eating raw.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetlovin (Post 1822923)
im sorry but bmi is a load of crap.

its has been saying healthy naturally thin people are unhealthy forever. All my friends online and off say they bmi's are low and it says they are underweight when really they are perfectly healthy. i dont listen to that bmi junk.


The doctor advice is good. They would know whether my weight is right for my frame and body structure but a online measurement tool made by some weirdo scientist that didnt take in consideration of other things? I think ill pass.

I really do hope you go see a doctor about this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetlovin (Post 1822925)
Did you not hear my plan?

10 days fast- initial weight loss
10 days raw food diet- ongoing weight loss
1200-1400 calorie plan- maintenance mode

what happens if i screw up? start the plan again to lose the weight again


Screw up, as in, eat? So you start your fast. You "mess up" and break the fast. To punish yourself you start the fast over. So essentially you are admitting that you are going to train your body to live off of no food.

You have also been living off of a 500 cal/day diet and set a goal of 6 hours of exercise a day. It is just not reasonable to believe that this is a good plan. Please consider talking to someone about this.

sweetlovin 08-20-2007 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by junebug41 (Post 1822940)
Screw up, as in, eat? So you start your fast. You "mess up" and break the fast. To punish yourself you start the fast over. So essentially you are admitting that you are going to train your body to live off of no food.

You have also been living off of a 500 cal/day diet and set a goal of 6 hours of exercise a day. It is just not reasonable to believe that this is a good plan. Please consider talking to someone about this.

no, i said if i screw up the plan during maintenance, then i will start over. if i screw up during juice fast, i exercise a couple more hours and continue.

i just dont think my plans are so serious that i need to talk to someone asap. it can wait until im ready

junebug41 08-20-2007 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetlovin (Post 1822928)
Most people on hear are just like me. DOing it for appearance and confidence

If you are doing this particular plan for vanity, you are going against its intended purpose.

I just do not appreciate a school of thought I believe in used in this way.


I know I'm wasting my breath as so many others who have replied to your previous threads have. I hope you find peace and wellness soon. Good luck to you.

witchyonadiet 08-20-2007 08:17 PM

No offense hon - but if you think you have been eating a 500 calorie a day diet for over a year you have way more issues than a juice fast. I truly think a reputable doctor or someone with common sense would make not make decisions based on a website entitled Doctoryourself.com that is trying to sell books.

sweetlovin 08-20-2007 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by junebug41 (Post 1822971)
If you are doing this particular plan for vanity, you are going against its intended purpose.

I just do not appreciate a school of thought I believe in used in this way.


I know I'm wasting my breath as so many others who have replied to your previous threads have. I hope you find peace and wellness soon. Good luck to you.

your not wasting your breath. i do take everyones opinion quite seriously or i wouldnt be posting here. I think a veg juice fast has amazing health benefits as well, i mean common, its vegetables! it also stops cravings/bad eating habbits which is the other half im doing this for.

I took eveyones opinions seriously on the last thread but you can honestly expect me to be 100 percent comfortable talking to people about my diet issues. I have to wait until im prepared. it would be soo awkward being all like "anorexia, binge, exercising 6 hours blah blah blah" so I have to think about this

I decided not to exercise 6 hours a day because of 3 fat chicks. I thought i didnt want to make myself sick or anything

but frankly i really cant think of a solid reason why not to do this fast. seems pretty useful and healthy to me. veggie juice has nutrients and calories. im not starving myself

I do congratulate you on getting over obesity but if you really think about it, eating healthy probably was extreme and hard and probably as self motivating/crazy to your body as fasting because you had to get use to it so in a way its equal

witchyonadiet 08-20-2007 08:23 PM

Been looking at your other posts and you are all over the place as to what you are eating and how many calories you are consuming. I'm going to assume you are just trying to get attention and not going to comment on any other posts of yours. Hope you get some help.

sweetlovin 08-20-2007 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by witchyonadiet (Post 1822979)
Been looking at your other posts and you are all over the place as to what you are eating and how many calories you are consuming. I'm going to assume you are just trying to get attention and not going to comment on any other posts of yours. Hope you get some help.

lol ive tried every plan i have posted on here. they arent working so i change them. why would i want attention on a board like this? I just thought i could get support on here because everyone is on the same boat wanting to lose weight but i guess not. i mean some people have 1000 posts on here

Thank you but your opinion is not welcomed. You dont even know who i am...

and i clearly stated i ate 500 calories LAST YEAR. This year i have said i would be eating something around 1000-1300 calories. You can track my posts from last year when i use to go on this board and see that i use to weigh 122 pounds. I didnt come on for monthes and you can see that by tracking my posts. i have been an active poster on and off on this board. i am not here for attention.

samra1962 08-21-2007 07:06 AM

Sweetlovin- you need to seek medical help. 500 cals/day is basically starvation. Stop beating yourself up. :(

Lifeguard 08-21-2007 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetlovin (Post 1822923)
im sorry but bmi is a load of crap.

I can agree with you that bmi is not the absolute best measure of health/weight. But it is a well-respected starting point used by many doctors. I too know people who are very thin naturally that will never weigh what bmi says. I also know very muscular people who are always going to be above their bmi.

But I used it as a measuring stick to try to show you that maybe the reason this weightloss is a struggle for you is that it MAY be unreasonable. Those people who are naturally below bmi don't need to work to stay there - their bodies do it on their own.

I am posting here out of genuine concern for you. It has been a long, painful journey for my SIL (& everyone in her life watching) & I hate the thought of anyone else having to go there. Disordered eating/exercising/lifestyle (whatever you want to call it) does not happen overnight, but it is a slippery slope once you start.

Perhaps you do not need to see a medical doctor but may be better off to see a nutritionist or personal training who can help you ensure your diet & exercise program & goals are healthy & attainable. Or maybe see if your community has free counselling available (most do) & speak to someone about the concern that you may be struggling with diet, exercise & body image.

I wish you the best luck - I hope you are taking the things posted here into consideration like you have stated & that you will reevaluate whether or not your lifestyle goals are right for you.

sweetlovin 08-21-2007 10:27 AM

Day 1:

The juice im drinking for breakfast doesnt take good but im clogging my nose and doing it!

it had

onion
carrots
tomatoe
lettuce

in side. off to a good morning

SoulBliss 08-22-2007 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetlovin (Post 1823530)
Day 1:

The juice im drinking for breakfast doesnt take good but im clogging my nose and doing it!

it had

onion
carrots
tomatoe
lettuce

in side. off to a good morning

Sounds like the makings of a tasty (if nutritionally imbalanced, if that is all one eats) salad!

Why not simply eat those vegetables (and a lot more other healthy, whole foods, while you are at it?)? Discarding the fiber seems counterproductive.

Luminous 08-26-2007 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetlovin (Post 1822926)
no it wont. your basing this on a normals person weakness. Ive been able to maintain my weight at a 500 calorie diet for a year. my willpower can get to an all time high after a while of motivation

These are ED codewords: normal people are weak; I'm not like them; my willpower overcomes all; and so on.

Please, talk to your parents, or some other adult you trust. At the very least, take a look at the "Chicks in Control" area of these forums, or try something-fishy.org.

I cringe every time I see your threads and the mixture of helpful and concerned replies. You're using this site to legitimize your ED and that's very worrysome.


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