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ceara 02-03-2005 10:53 AM

Yea A! Day 19!

Those gym people need to get a life....or maybe some therapy. They sound very unhappy with themselves. Usually micro-controllers are...

Am thinkin' on thy questions :queen: E. Will respond when I'm done ponderin'.

:wave:

Ceara

deleted2 02-03-2005 11:00 AM

or dare I say....maybe the wacky gym people are eating WAY too much sugar?!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Amarantha2 02-03-2005 01:04 PM

Yo, I dinna see thee earlier, SeeCat, congrats on your first o' the month start ... wish I could stop going to meetings altogether also!

Ha, last night I showed everybody at the school board meeting my Sugar Busters book during executive session. They were all reading it! :)

Yea, E, could be my gym compadres (I use the term loosely) need to get off the sugar! :lol: Yes, I do feel they are bullies. I can't tell you how many cupcakes I would be eating right now if this were last month. This freedom not to binge is a miracle.

Oh, the upshot o' the fan was that it was turned on and aimed directly at me, which was ok dokey because it makes me walk faster.

I just called the parks and rec department here and the new multi gen center will not be open until August, so I'm going to go in the other direction next week and look at a gym I saw west of my location because I'm not seeing any other gym building action right here. The new center will have an indoor walk/run track and I can't wait until it gets here ... there is beautiful outdoor scenary here but it does get rather hot for sandwiching in jogging during the day ... sigh ... wish they'd build faster!

Sorry, digressing off topic.

deleted2 02-03-2005 04:43 PM

Hey Amarantha, I saw on another thread how you have a few busy days coming up. Don't forget to plan to bring healthy stuff with you. I know you know that, it's just my clever way of getting you to tell us what you'll be packing. :^:

Question for everyone: I've heard some of you talk about going to meetings and it's only sweet rolls and coffee. In your wildest healthiest dreams what would you like to see offered?
I ask because at my job I want to offer more healthy alternatives. For breakfast meetings I usually put out coffee, a selection of teas [black and herbal], a sweet roll of some kind, mini bagels w/ a cream cheese spread, grapes, apple slices, cheddar slices and triscuits. Any other ideas?

Amarantha2 02-03-2005 06:11 PM

Me again!
 
Well, E, I was just thinking of that. Tonight I'll be packing apples and cheese slices (not low fat). Ditto tomorrow, but also some of the mini whole wheat pita's topped with fat free cream cheese and chives.

For morning meetings, my ideas aren't much different from yours 100-percent whole wheat bagels and fat free cream cheese, along with fruit and cheddar.

Instead of sweet rolls could someone bake a sugar free apricot tea bread (apricots are amazingly low glycemic), using a scratch recipe but tweaking ... e.g., whole wheat flour mixed with oat flour (you can make oat flour by whirring oatmeal in a blender), Egg Beaters? Dunno.

What about some crunchy mini shredded wheat cereal and little cartons of skim milk?

Or an omelette bar, including vege and all-fruit spreads (for sweet omelets).

Hmmm. String cheese with grape tomatoes and sweet red pepper flakes (a favorite of mine).

Hummus with whole wheat pita? I don't know how to spell this.

Anyway, I'm getting hungry, so ...

More irritating sugary messages: I happen to be a fan of the Arthur cartoon series on PBS (don't laugh, I know it's for kids but I'm often home in the daytime and it's cute). BUT who do you think is one of the sponsors for this really creative and wholesome educational children's program? Ok, I'll tell ya: It's a manufacturer of "60-minute" sweet rolls ... there's even a commercial spot telling kids how there are 60 seconds in a minute and showing a cartoon of a sweet roll with the sound of a microwave timer and a voice over saying how great it is to learn something in just 60 seconds.

Uh-huh.

Amarantha2 02-03-2005 06:19 PM

A sweet potato bar? These are extremely low glycemic ... you could precook some and put out toppings and a microwave and let people heat and top their own.

Mushroom pate on whole wheat toast triangles. Cheese dip with toasted whole wheat toast triangles.

Homemade nut butters with rye crackers.

Deviled eggs, only made with whirred cottage cheese instead of mayo.

Just plain hard boiled eggs.

Some of the zero cal fruit flavored water bottle products (ok reaching now, bye-bye).

deleted2 02-03-2005 07:50 PM

Thanks for all the great ideas, A!!! My set-up at work doesn't allow for anything like an omelette bar, for the breakfast meetings I just put it all out on a table, so it'd have to be a pick-up kinda thing. Love the idea of humuus as a bagel topper choice; I'll do that for sure! I must say I feel guilty sometime putting out sugar for the public, but they'd revolt if I didn't. Maybe little by little....

Speaking of ideas--here's some things I pack in case of whatever:

*my beloved string cheese or cheddar sticks
* apples, clementines, etc.
* dried fruit
*triscuits or rye crackers
*vegetarian jerky [look for one without sugar]
* a can of Progresso lentil soup
*tortilla chips and a can of bean dip {I love this one!}
* veggie sticks
* a little ziploc w/ nuts
*nut butters
*hard-boiled eggs
* a choc. whey protein shake
* tea bags
* and of course an acceptable sweet!

ceara 02-04-2005 06:39 AM

I feel loggy this morning....2 slices of bread and peanut butter waylaid me last night and beat me up around 8:30. I'm not used to eating that late and boy now I remember why. There was likely sugar in the peanut butter too...although I am only cruising against the sugars that are blatantly obvious. If I have to tax my brain this isn't going to work. There isn't enough of it to go around as it is! :s:

However, I'm still motorin' on...day twenty something...again no brain. No cookies, candies (which are sitting right on the kitchen table for the family), chocolates, desserts of any kind, white bread, or white starches...except a small potato once in a while.

So, I'm off with fresh resolve of no food after 7...I don't like the next morning...and to blow my nose!

Ceara :wave:

Gypsydancer 02-04-2005 09:07 AM

Good morning! This morning I had a whole grain frozen waffle with breakfast. It has evaporated cane juice in it, which I guess is sugar (it is, isn't it?), but it was way down on the ingredients list. Since I'm only eliminating sweets, I don't count this as violating my abstinance. But I do have a probelm--I weighed myself this morning (not my regular weigh day yet) and I gained 2 pounds! I'm wondering if I'm not doing enough to change my eating habits. Could y'all please share your eating plans? Thanks!

Amarantha2 02-04-2005 10:21 AM

Yowza, everyone's up, bright-eyed 'n bushy tailed (whatever that means) today. I'm off to gym (yuck) and one of the newsrooms in the mountains today. This is my day 20 ... I started a journal in the land far far away for the sole purpose of just counting off the days of no refined sugar, no white flour!

E, I pm'd thee a recipe from Sugar Busters. Don't feel right about posting copyrighted material but when I do my alternative version, I will post that.

Gypsy, the evaporated cane juice is turbinado sugar and I believe it's considered a natural sugar, so IMO (not that you requested it, but that never stops me :lol: ), you made a choice that's at least not refined sugar. Dinna worra thyself about two pounds (not even your weigh day, so doesn't count ... weight fluctuates over a week), it'll come right off.

I'm pretty sure I've gained some back, too. Don't care, feel good with my sugarless state.

My eating plan is loosely what's in the Sugar Busters books, but I do what I please and don't really agree with everything in the books and so tweak things, especially in regard to meal timing, as my schedule is not conventional. I just use it because I like the information in it, but a lot of dieticians seem opposed to it. I don't know why. Maybe they want me to go back to insane cupcake cravings and blood sugar that's through the roof. I've been told this is similar to the South Beach Diet except there's no induction period. I don't see this myself, as I see the South Beach as more a low carb plan and I'm not opposed to carbs. Just trying to eat the good carbs. When I started my "day counting," I was actually doing Sugar Busters without knowing about Sugar Busters. It's just a low glycemic way of eating. The book gives guidelines about what foods to avoid in order to keep blood sugar and insulin levels stable and the authors feel this is key to weight loss. They also give general lifestyle advice for healthy habits ... exercise and general eating to lose weight. They say it's not necessary to count calories and I do find I control mine quite easily now that, duh, I'm not eating cupcakes, candy, dulce de leche, Krispy Kreme, etc. :devil: However, I do choose to count cals just for fun.

Guess I should say that I don't really personally endorse any particular diet or plan, especially popular or faddish ones. Again, I just like the books as a guide to what I'm trying to do for my particular bod (mainly avoid death).

Re the glycemic index, as I guess everyone knows so you might be asking, "Why is she saying this?", is controversial. There are lots of different views on it and on whether it's useful in weight loss. The American Diabetes Society has come out with a statement to the general effect that they don't think it's useful for diabetics.

But as my bro, who is a diabetic and a fanatic supporter of the low GI way o' life, says, "It seems to work."

I don't know. My bottom line is just the mantra: 'NO REFINED SUGAR, NO WHITE FLOUR!'

Sword Bearer: CONGRATULATIONS ON DAY TWENTY-SOMETHING!!!! WTG! :cheer: Have a banana :cb: ... an unripe one, please (ripe bananas are very high GI).

Sorry to be so windy and pontificatious, it's how I am!!!! :)

deleted2 02-04-2005 11:47 AM

Gypsy, don't freak out over the 2 pounds---could be anything. The body's funny like that. :dizzy:

The plan that I'm on [with a bit of tweakage :o ] is Radiant Recovery. You can check it out at radiantrecovery.com. It's a good site with lots of info on the biochemical effects of sugar and why some of us are more sensitive than others.
I find that sort of thing so fascinating these days! Oh, and I'm a big believer in keeping a food journal.

I try to eat a mostly whole foods diet. I seem to get in less trouble that way! :D

I'm having some guests over tonight and will be serving snacks. I'm going to make the food all program-friendly; can't wait to see how it goes over. No guts no glory, right?

Amarantha2 02-04-2005 09:55 PM

Hmmm, ok here's my sweet potato recipe. Actually I hate sweet potatoes (unless baked by my mom, who is deceased so can't do it, with tons of brown sugar, butter and cloves), but on my plan, white ones are forbidden. Anyhow, I micro'ed a sweet potato (if watching weight ... and who isn't these days ... be sure to get sweet potatoes and not yams, which are still nutritious and moderate GI but are higher in cals). Sweet potatoes are lighter in color and a different shape than yams ... unless you live elsewhere than the U.S., where the two terms sometimes have different meanings ... but since I live in AZ, this is my understanding ... anyhow ... I took the cooked thing (very fibrous and I just don't like 'em), peeled and then pureed in Magic Bullet with some unsweetened soymilk and Splenda and mixed with oatmeal (not instant or quick cooking) and I made these into kind of bars (four of 'em) and baked at 400 for 11 minutes, thinking I might get energy bars of some kind ... actually, what I got was a kind of sweet baked potato puff or souffle ... 130 cals, Sugar Busters friendly. I ate one with a salmon fillet and froze the rest for side dishes.

Tomorrow I will buy an ice cream maker and try to make low glycemic, truly sugar free ice cream.

Have decided not to work at the payin' stuff until Monday.

Amarantha2 02-06-2005 02:41 AM

Had a dream about sandwich cookies ... lemon ones and vanilla ones and woke up with a craving to go get some.

Needless to say I did not.

Did everyone go away? :(

Come out 'n play?

deleted2 02-06-2005 08:16 AM

Thanks for the sweet potato recipes, Empress! I'm going to have sweet potato/pecan waffles or pancakes this morning with apples and a little maple syrup, I think. The last sweet pots I bought were extraordinarily sweet---I wonder if its because I'm not eating sugar.

Am feeling a little rebellious diet-wise. Could be because of the time of month. What I'm saying is if I'm going to slip it's going to be now.

But I'm not going to slip, never fear! ;)

DAY 141!!!!! :angel:

Amarantha2 02-06-2005 12:07 PM

Yea, E, everything tastes sweeter to me now that I'm not eating the sugar. I just ordered two more Sugar Busters cookbooks that I should get this week. Will share any riveting recipes ... really needing variety, though I no longer want lemon sandwich cookies. :)

Lost .6 of a pound ... I call it a pound ... this is extraordinary for me to go down three one week and a little more the next ... generally I'd be up again. I know I'm on the right "diet" ... sorry if the word offends anyone here as it seems to in other places sometimes! :lol: (Not meaning this as a negative statement, just in fun ... I am cranky as I need to go write out bills ... I do this in the car in conjunction with shopping but I am somewhat "loggy" today as well).


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