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PainterWoman 01-28-2005 12:29 PM

Do you really think people "turn" gay?
Analyze.

My son was backing up so close to a dumpster once that he slipped of the driver's side rear view mirror. (Also Camry.. wonder if they are ill-fated... ) He paid for it... and I don't believe he's hit anything since.

Life is hilarious. Might as well laugh. Or cry. At least those make me feel better. Yelling doesn't.

Ice cream does. or chocolate. Maybe I need to try "embracing my suffering"... if i did it enough perhaps I wouldn't be so hard to embrace myself...

Wabby 01-28-2005 01:11 PM

Nobody "turns" gay. You are or you aren't. My sweet nephew is gay - always was, always will be.

Poor Kiwi's Explorer. I've had a few experiences w/ kid's fender benders. Why are they always afraid to tell their dad? He usually handles it better than I do. Don't feel bad about giving the DH grief. It's our job sometimes.

Painty, I love having a therapist in the herd. And I know what you say is true, but it's really hard when my brother lives right next door. He has not apologized to neighbor Fred. He's escalated it further. They are waging an all out war, and I think my brother is going to end up on the losing end of things. Fred has the law and a real estate attorney on his side. Not to mention the money to pay for an attorney. I'm just trying to lay low and stay out of the drama.

Bagzz 01-28-2005 04:01 PM

oh my goodness---hope i haven't started something!!!----the OC is a teenager-based "soap opera"-----one of the girls is bi-sexual and is flirting with one of the girls who has so far been heterosexual---as far as i can see,they are "experimenting"----LET ME NOT BE CONSIDERED SOMEONE WHO IS AGAINST GAYNESS~!!!!!!!---- two of my best guy friends and a few girlfriends are gay AND let me tell you my own government is passing a bill for gay marriage in Canada which i totally support. I think i got in trouble for talking about Jehovah's witnesses didn't i????? :?: :?: :?: :^: am i in trouble for making fun of George Bush????AM I IN TROUBLE???????????????????????????????????

Kiwonk 01-28-2005 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PainterWoman
Do you really think people "turn" gay?
Analyze.

Seriously doubt it. Of course lots of people go from trying to fit in as a heterosexual to realizing they are gay and having to sort of reinvent their lives, I should think. Other people might interpret that as "turning" gay. When I have time to write more, I will tell you about the play my actor friend wrote, which has a beautiful scene about this.

Of course I have no idea what's going on on the OC, since I rarely watch it. But I would like to point out, if I haven't before (and even if I have) that the actor who plays Sandy, Peter Gallagher, was in my graduating class at Tufts. He was very cute then too.

I really want to kick that butt on the ad over there. What makes her think it's okay to have your picture taken leaning over sticking your butt out anyway? And what's that under her sweater? I think she's wearing a corset.

I will never lose any weight. I just made a cheesecake for dinner -- we are going over to the "neighbors" (2 miles away) for dinner. I must go walk with Leslie before DH comes home (I don't appreciate an audience). Have you seen that "Increase Size/Decrease Size" line right below the box where you type? I tried the Decrease, but I am still fat.

Kiwi

Kiwonk 01-28-2005 04:11 PM

Yeah, Bagz, you're in trouble. We're reporting you to the Provincial cops for speaking to Americans. :lol: And stop sending us those mad cows! :lol3:

Bagzz 01-28-2005 04:49 PM

you have driven me to earlier drinking than usual for a friday.

Bagzz 01-28-2005 04:50 PM

sorry about the cows--damn canadian cannibal cows

Cowpernia 01-28-2005 04:54 PM

People kind of turn gay in a way. I had a friend in Los Angeles who attended a gay church and had many gay friends. She was not gay but was handicapped and found that she fit in with this crowd better. She was more accepted. Anyway, she told me that on Christmas, they were dragging their kids down the aisle as much as in a straight church. It made me think they didn't always live as gays. I mean, it would give that appearance.

I guess I shouldn't have said "pervo." It's just a word that comes to mind when I think of Bagz sometimes. Not sure why.

Cowpernia 01-28-2005 04:56 PM

When you look below, do you see "weight loss for cows" and "skinny cows"? What's up with that?

Cowpernia 01-28-2005 04:57 PM

Two people have complimented my new earrings today. One said they bring out the pink in my eyes. Of course, she meant in my cheeks. Or sweater.

Bagzz 01-28-2005 05:41 PM

my dd made her earrings---she made me some red ones to match MY eyes.

Bagzz 01-28-2005 05:42 PM

just because i say eff doesn't mean i am a pervo----maybe it's my nineteen year old "crush"

Wabby 01-28-2005 06:02 PM

Bagzie, I hope you stay off the tractors.

My brother's "wife" called me today because my brother wanted to apologize for "making the neighbor whine to you". I told her she needn't apologize for anyone else's actions, but if my brother wanted to apologize for acting like a madman, that would be appropriate. I told her I wasn't taking sides, but bro needs to learn how to talk problems out instead of behaving crazy and making threats. I'm sure my brother won't be talking to me any time soon. Darn.

You will all be relieved to hear that Grandpa Jim has a car to replace the wrecked one. He's back on the road.:eek:

Bagzie, dear, I really, really, really would love to be drinking margies with you tonight. I could use a trip to margaritaville. See you lovelies on monday.

Bagzz 01-28-2005 11:19 PM

oh well---i will have to tell wabby that i had to settle for amaretto and milk tonight----i was at sissy's and that's what was available {i hate beer}---------------had fun dishing about this and that--------drinking is almost like a vacation......................

PainterWoman 01-29-2005 12:01 AM

Amaretto! THAT's what I need.... Oooh, better yet, I wish I had a slug of Baileys. Hmmm.
Nobody's in trouble that I can tell. It seems that we are all a bit pervy, liberal and, um, creative.

Yesterday there was a sheep loose on the road. Poor thing was flummoxed by two cop cars with strobe lights and two animal control trucks with men with stick/lasso thingys. (HOW can you catch a sheep with a harness.) Sheep was smart enough to run out of the middle of the street and back into it's suburban farm lot. They've got 1 llama and a bunch of cattle... If one of them gets loose, I'll send photos! It was very entertaining. See... that's what passes for entertainment around here. No snow. No starlets. No cheesecake.

Cowpernia 01-29-2005 09:31 AM

Speaking of lassos and gaysos, here is one of my friends stories from that time. There was a Gay Pride parade in Los Angeles and her church participated by having the choir, in robes, march along singing hymns. It was near the time that Carter first ran for president (I forget who ran as Republican) and while the parade was forming, a man dressed in a huge condom appeared. He intended to march in front of the choir. Well, the church people were not in favor of this and marched off to have the police take him away. His name was Mr. Penis and Mr. Penis had no hands on which to put cuffs. So he was lassoed and taken away in a squad car.

What they didn't know was that Mr. Penis had supporters and when the parade began, two men holding a sign reading, "Mr. Penis for Presdient" marched in front of the choir.

Cowpernia 01-29-2005 09:58 AM

Wabs, I just reread your post and laughed. He made the neighbors whine to you!1 HAHA. Even though he got drunk and overtook the neighborhood with a tractor while making threats, it's still them who are the trouble-makers here because they are WHINEY!!

I also just read the 3FC essay on what the best diet is. Apparently, it's one you will stick with. Well, which one is that? Their survey found Weight Watchers was favored but it's inconvenient and costly. Can't we just have Wabsy run a diet plan for us?

Cowpernia 01-29-2005 07:22 PM

Could I be wrong in believing that my body knows it’s too fat and knows what to do about it? I mean, should I have to be manipulating it and trying to trick it into slimness? It used to be thin. I think it’s just being mean and lazy. My hypothesis is that I can eat all the chocolate I want and still lose weight. It hasn’t worked but it could. If only my glandular system would shape up.

I believe that this will happen and I’ll be really cute and a nice handsome greyhaired man with a genuine leather checkbook cover will sweep me off my feet. Today, I dyed my hair and Ds says it looks natural. I am ready from the scalp up.

But, just in case the man’s arrival doesn’t coincide with DS’s departure for college, I am planning to be alone for a while. I thought and thought about how I would do things if I were alone and today I had the ultimate test. I gave my cat a bath all by myself. It’s a cat I’m allergic to and he needs to be bathed. We got through it fine. Afterwards, he even cuddled with me while I petted his soggy back.

DS will be going to university next year. At school, he is required to pick three schools and learn about them. This is a continuing project where he is given more and more information to seek out. His choices of schools to investigate: the community college he now attends; a chiropractic college in the midwest; and a technical school that may be in or near New York. As Sugar points out, he may end up at the U of Siberia with this kind of attitude.

Nevertheless, my cat will be clean

Bagzz 01-29-2005 10:55 PM

are you serious-----------ds is old enought to graduate from highschool??? i thought you were like 18 when you graduate----did he skip grades?????----------give me the lowdown--------------i can't believe he.is.that.old.------------HOW DID THIS HAPPEN????

Cowpernia 01-29-2005 11:05 PM

You are so silly. He is in Grade Eleven. Next year, he can graduate.

Bagzz 01-30-2005 10:36 AM

oh---i get confused when the year changes----next year is september to me---SARRY!!!

Cowpernia 01-30-2005 02:09 PM

same thing. Next year that start in September, he graduates. He's same grade as Kiwiette.

Bagzz 01-30-2005 02:43 PM

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhwe will have a virtual grad party for the peachpie and the kiwiette!!!!!!
---anyone here watch "desperate housewives"???

Kiwonk 01-30-2005 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bagzz
---anyone here watch "desperate housewives"???

Constantly. It's hilarious! I can't believe they made such a big deal about that show being "controversial", like every other show on TV isn't about adultery and sneaky, lying people. I saw an interview with some guy who wrote the show originally and he couldn't get anyone to buy the idea. He was describing it as satire. Which of course is what it is. A friend told him to market it as a soap opera, and the network snapped it right up.

Hey, I haven't been here since Friday. Where've I been? I had to get up at the a**crack of dawn Friday to take DD in to school early. They went on a bus to another high school to take part in a regional Honors Music Festival. She was in the chorus. They rehearsed all day Friday, and went over really early Saturday too for rehearsal. Then there was concert in the afternoon yesterday. It was lovely. They also had band. It's amazing what they're able to do with 2 days of rehearsals. There were kids there from about 10 schools. DD had a great time -- she said what she liked most was that everyone there wanted to be there, they could all sing and enjoyed doing so. That made it fun.

The cheesecake was a great success. Strangely, the kids, other than DD (who knows a good thing when she sees it), weren't interested in it at all. Which was just fine, because I got to bring about 1/3 of it home. mmm But the adults were delighted and very complimentary. I thought it was a bit too creamy myself, but who am I to criticize my own cooking....

Cowp, DS is not going to university next year. Exactly 12 months from now he will be a high school senior. He's going the year after next. Because everyone knows that the year starts in September. :dunno: Pay no attention to those pesky date things, like 2005, 2006, etc. I think it's hilarious that he is comparing a chiropractic college. Is he just trying to get on your nerves? DH made an appointment to see the high school guidance counselor about DD's college search. I have no idea what we're going to get out of it, except maybe we will find out how little they are equipped to help if she's not going the U of Maine. Maybe I will be surprised.

I'm making chicken soup again. It sure smells good.

Kiwi

Bagzz 01-30-2005 07:41 PM

I CAN'T SMELL YOUR SOUP--------------- i have a problem with chicken soup====the broth never tastes "tasty"----i simmer the chicken with onion,carrots,celery---STILL no real full bodied flavour-------------GIVE UP YOUR SECRETS.

PainterWoman 01-30-2005 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowpernia
What they didn't know was that Mr. Penis had supporters and when the parade began, two men holding a sign reading, "Mr. Penis for Presdient" marched in front of the choir.

Every penis needs a supporter.

SugP 01-31-2005 05:10 AM

whatever
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwonk
I had to get up at the a**crack of dawn Friday to take DD in to school early.

That reminds me of an Oprah joke that I probably shouldn't tell here for fear of offending any number of visible minorities all at the same time. You've all heard it already anyway, I'm sure. :D

Yes, I too am pervy, liberal and creative, when they let me be, that is. And no, I don't think that gay people just turn gay. I believe they are that way from birth and it's their environment that decides whether they can "come out" or not. When I was a little kid in the 60s we had three pairs of gay men living on our street and it was totally not an issue. And nobody's business anyway. So there.

Kids got report cards on Friday and now have Monday and Tuesday off to recover. Go figure. I will be decluttering ALL DAY (well, ok, most of the day because it's 11:05 a.m.) because this tip is taking over my life and I'm not going to take it any more!

A chiropractic college? Do you, like, learn to be a chiropractor there, or is it run by them orwhat? I'm so confused. I think Peachez ds should become a rocket scientist or a Nobel Peace Prize winner.

Bagzz 01-31-2005 11:23 AM

a change is as good as a rest-----tip cleaning can really work----ROCK ON SUGARCUBE!!!

SugP 01-31-2005 01:52 PM

"tip cleaning" or "a glass of water is as good as a nap"
 
I miss Hoochie Mama. She was so sensible and able to eat only one Oreo at a time. And she was so good at ironing golf shirts.

Bagziee! Didn't you say that you totally decluttered your house awhile back? Did it stay that way? We just have SO much crap and I'm trying to brutally slog my way through it and only keep what we use or love.

Did I mention that I woke up at 4 a.m. this morning and couldn't get back to sleep at all? Got up and sat around in the living room until 6 and then did fall back to sleep. Is that perimenopause or what? It'd be nice to be able to sleep through the night for a change. Maybe when I'm 60.

Oooh! I can watch The (badly dubbed) OC too starting Wednesday night. How many seasons have I already missed? Will I like it?

Cowpernia 01-31-2005 02:03 PM

Sugar, I'm reading a German novel called "The Reader." It's kind of uninteresting to me so far. I see that it's supposed to be erotic but I'm not getting it. You read it?

I have a kitty, seven years old maybe, who has a serious dental problem. I think it's ginginvitis. I'm taking him to the vet on Saturday. This kitty was an adult when I got him and he is not trained to be handled like my other kitty is. If I do something to him he doesn't like (comb him, administer meds), he hides under the furniture for days. If it's meds, then I can't do it again. I can't catch him.

So I'm afraid she'll want a fortune to address his problem and then expect me to brush him teeth or something. I could do anything to the other cat but not this one. I am concerned. I need feedback here.

Kiwi, what schools are you visiting? U of F???? Nice and warm here.

Bagzz 01-31-2005 02:30 PM

brushing a cat's teeth???forget it----get them hauled out---let her gum it.----that's my input-----------SUGAR-HELLOOOOOOOOOO??????????????/---- I COULD DEJUNK 24-7 AND THIS AMAZON HULK OF A TIP WOULD STILL BE SPITTING OUT TRASH---- we even had a dumpster once and FILLED it----the garage and basement could fill one again----i guess i must grow the crap.I LOVE THE OC------------- just i used to love Dynasty and especially Knots Landing----------i loved Donna Mills----and Nicolette Sheridan---she used to do up William DeVane--------------now she's doing up Wisteria Lane-------i just put in a CD that has Microsoft Office----what the **** is that and how do i use it????------------take the cat's teeth out yourself when he's asleep-=---save yourself some cash.

Kiwonk 01-31-2005 03:01 PM

"a glass of water is as good as a nap"? LOL
 
I had no idea she was good at ironing golf shirts. You must have known her better than I did.
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Originally Posted by SugP
Did I mention that I woke up at 4 a.m. this morning and couldn't get back to sleep at all? Got up and sat around in the living room until 6 and then did fall back to sleep.

I've been doing that once a week or so. It's evil.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowpernia
I have a kitty, seven years old maybe, who has a serious dental problem.

I have a kitty who has a serious mental problem. :lol:
She has a pretty consistent bad hair day going and she sits 2 feet from me and waves her paw at me for attention. If I don't pat her she hunkers down and looks dejected. Sometimes she turns her back on me. If I do pat her, she just keeps waving her paw at me. Actually this is sort of revelant to your dental problem. I have had to comb mats out of her hair every winter, and they can get really bad. She used to hate the sight of me after a session of that. I found I had to do it frequently for shorter times with lots more happy-type combing so she wouldn't avoid me for days while the mats got even worse. I only hope you don't have to do anything to your kitty on a regular basis, but if you do, you'll have to do something similar--make the brushing frequent and short. Good luck.

Gee, I don't think I've the a**crack joke. Share. (Or pm it)

Ta, Bovettes
Kiwi, Penis Supporter

SugP 01-31-2005 03:07 PM

meow
 
Sitting here thinking how happy I am that I don't have a cat. :D (Actually, I'd love to have one but I'm allergic in a big way that no bath can reduce).

How weird is this: about a week ago some person from the US I don't know at all e mails me and says he found my e mail somewhere on the internet (eep). He was looking for a friend of his, a female exchange student who had visited the US in 1993 (!) and apparently she came from the town where we live now. He gave me her first name and what he thought was her last name but I was pretty sure her first name was spelled differently so I looked in our little tiny phone book - two names there but not her first name, and then I did a search and the only thing I came up with was a chick who happened to be selling her car online. So I sent him the e mail address from there, with the first name different from what he thought it was, and it turned out to be her!!! Freaky. Anyway, the guy was nice but at the bottom of his e mail he had "Taking Back America". That's not good, is it? I don't think he and I will be corresponding again. :D

Doing good deeds for other people should make you thin, but I'm STILL fat! Pppthhhhh! :p

Bagzie - Germans are not erotic. Ask me how I know. I KNEW I should have gone for alternate life number 47. :lol:

Ok, ok, but I hope Oprah isn't reading this:
Did you hear what happened to Oprah? She was caught at the airport with 30 lbs. of crack.

Hilarious, eh? Got it from my brother.

Bagzz 01-31-2005 05:25 PM

oh my GAWD Shuga!!!---did i say that germans were Erotic??? where did i get that idea????----maybe Oprah DID have the big crack, but the laughs on us fat arses isn't it!!!---she's been skinny and fit for years now!!!----the more things change the more they stay the same=========kiwi----how come you didn't back up my plan to have cowperns cat with dentures???------you can sign me as "unsupportive of penissss===is it peni??? a flotilla of peni?? {pronouced pee--nigh}=======KIWONK--- i forgot to say how jealous i was of your saturday with all of the musical teens-----sigh----------i miss that sooooooooooooooo much----i don't think ds will be involved in music like the girls were---------------dd20's band plays around town so i am not totally out of the scene.........................

SugP 02-01-2005 05:19 AM

I'll be learning to read any day now!
 
Silly me. Now that I've had a good night's sleep I see that *Peachy* was asking about the erotic Germans. They're still not erotic, although you can see naked girls on almost any magazine cover and people (not me) sit around in the sauna in the buff. I haven't read that novel. What's it about?

Yeah, that Oprah joke must be really old because as much as we love to despise her, she is looking pretty fabulous these days. I'm still waiting for me free car. She never answers my mails.

Kids have gone to a movie with granny and I have the whole day to myself. Wheeee! What shall I do? I'm torn between doing chores and pampering myself. Will most likely set my timer for 15 minute intervals and do both.

Cowpernia 02-01-2005 10:01 AM

I don't recommend the book but I'm not done with it so maybe I'll change my mind. So far, a teenage boy is having an affair with a 37ish year old woman. I supposed that's supposed to be erotic but they take off their clothes, she washes him, she laughs at him and sends him home. They make love in there too but with no more sensuality than I've put. But I don't like erotic material so I'd put it down if that were happening.

Wabby 02-01-2005 12:23 PM

I read that book. I vaguely remember I didn't like it. Can't really remember the plot - a bad sign, since the good books I remember forever.

Cowpernia 02-01-2005 02:26 PM

Gosh, Wabbo. I don't remember AnYTHING forever. Not no more.

Kiwonk 02-01-2005 03:00 PM

Argh DD came home from school and insists that I go cross-country skiing with her. And I really can't say no, because I don't want her to go by herself and she has a good reason to do it -- she takes her phys. ed requirement by independent study, so it's actually homework!

I'll post later if I survive...

Kiwi

P.S. I like your new sig, Bagz.

Bagzz 02-01-2005 03:03 PM

i am reading "small island" by andrea levy---it is for the book club where i HAVE to read the book--not the fat book club where i actually forget what the name of the book is---did you already have your meeting,cows???----the book i am reading is okay but i would never say you must read it AT ALL-------so far i am really enjoying the club though---everyone is likeable and the food is WONDERFUL!!!!!---they make a big production of the food for sure---kind of like the Bunco Girls!!!!----TODAY IS GORGEOUS!!! LIKE SPRING---- this morning the trees were coated in frost---i took pics and i am sending them out-----VERY magical!!xoxo


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