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PainterWoman 11-03-2004 01:22 PM

Just call me GrumpyButt
 
:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
I am not happy about election results. Life must go on.

Thanks Baggz for the "resident hottie" remark. How fleeting it was!

Bagzz 11-03-2004 02:44 PM

Sorry
 
[/FONT]--someone told me that an Anti-Bush person HOPED he WOULD get re-elected SOOOOOOOOOO HE would be the one who has to live with the mess he created and try to clean it up=====what an awful thing it would be to inherit the disaster he has created-----if he can't fix it,then it will finally be truly revealed what a loser he really is!!! not that this helps anyone-----do you think it's true that alot of the Bush Supporters are " family values,gun lovin,anti-abortion,pro capital punishment,anti-gay marriage,anti-grass smoking " types----------------not like canadians who love pot smokin gays-----okay,i am done ranting------------------i guess we just have to dig in for the next four years----hopefully they will change the rules and Clinton can run again,instead of his pot smokin gay wife{ JUST kidding---about the wife i mean} :o :o

Cowpernia 11-03-2004 08:29 PM

I am sick about it. I live amongst people who believe that God Himself put Bush in office. Four years of hearing about how Bush was once again annointed Leader of the Free World! I can not bear it. I am surly and want to hit people. Do you notice how after the election all these experts pop up to explain what happened? It appears that since Kennedy, only southern Democrats have won. They keep running ones from the northeast who lose. Couldn't this have been pointed out earlier? Well, Johnson won but he passed civil rights bills and all those hillbillies turned Republican and filled the legislature with those kinds. It is just too awful. Bush can not fix his mess. He does not see anything as a mess. It's all good.

PainterWoman 11-04-2004 01:33 AM

Venting.
 
Apparently it was Goldwater in 1964 who was more Southern than Southern Democrats and got the rural South to be in favor of Republicans rather than a "liberal" like LBJ. If you can have a master manipulator FOR civil rights like LBJ from Texas, and a master manipulat-ee like GWB who seems to be in the Guns/God/(anti)Gay camp, it just goes to show that not all Texans are made the same. :p

Did anyone hear a guy named Lakeoff interviewed on NPR... About how progressives can talk coherently about how they have "values," too? I think one thing the Republicans did very well was articulate what they were FOR. I think the Dems managed to mostly talk about what they were AGAINST... which is not quite so appealing. Look for it here.

So. It is cool here. tomorrow I will exercise. Ta Daaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
:lol: :lol:

SugP 11-04-2004 05:46 AM

Bad mooood all around
 
You cows can all come and live with me for four years if you want. You'll have to share the hide-a-bed and the chips, though. I'm sure we'll manage.

That's a good point about Bush having to clean up his own mess now, Kiwi. Maybe the people who voted for him will actually get the idea this time.

I walked three miles with Leslie on Sunday, did 30 mins Pilates on Monday and 40 mins yoga last night. Still not even close to being buff. Just can't understand it.

Cowpernia 11-04-2004 08:32 AM

Here is how I feel. It's a Boondocks cartoon. Look at it soon as they take the images down fast. 4 more years

Cowpernia 11-04-2004 12:58 PM

I didn't write this but I like it.

The Terrorists....

love our reelected President, George Bush. President Bush has led our country to fighting decoys. Indeed, he has sought out some of the Terrorist, but many remain at large, including the ring leader (BL). Had he diverted the resources put into the war in Iraq toward fighting the Terrorist they would probably all be history. Over a hundred thousand people have been murdered in this war.

Interesting that in order to get Iraq to be a true democracy it will require separating church (Muslim) and state which are historically melded together, while at the same time GWB is promoting merging of church (mostly evangelical Christian) and state in the USA.

Interesting that Bush promotes mostly only one component of Christian morality--the anti abortion issue. Kerry's values are more representative of the many remaining Christian moral and ethical issues. Again, it's not right, in my opinion, for Bush to use the church as a vehicle for promoting his agenda as he gains leadership supported by blind "trust" from this large block of born again evangelical Christians. Interesting that the educated and upper middle class ones in the south often refer, and often jokingly, to many of the rest of their comrades as Red Necks.

The North Koreans love George bush who has taken them and their development of nuclear weapons out of the USA public eye.

The Terrorist love the rift the war in Iraq has caused with our Allies--Divide and Conquer! They love to see Americans split and divided over the war in Iraq--Divide and Conquer!

They all love seeing how effective George Bush is in eliciting fear (Terror) in the American people thus promoting his agenda and their cause. Interesting that New York City, the victim of the terror that led to the war in Iraq, voted nearly 75% for Kerry!

The last thing the Terrorist wanted to see is John Kerry, a man who honorably served his country in Vietnam, in office. Jesus would not have been elected in his time either.

This election has brought many concerns of the American people to the forefront and I think this will cause President Bush to address many of these issues from a fresh point of view. I, for one, will be watching a little more closely as the future plays itself out.

God Bless All People

God Bless All God's Creation

United We Stand

Kiwonk 11-04-2004 02:05 PM

I've been too angry and depressed to get online.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagzz
do you think it's true that alot of the Bush Supporters are " family values,gun lovin,anti-abortion,pro capital punishment,anti-gay marriage,anti-grass smoking " types

Yes, that is exactly true. They think they have a monopoly on "values" by which they apparently mean, people who appear to be ordinary like them. Regardless of who they really are or what they actually stand for. It seems that anyone who admits to being the least bit intelligent and coming from the east coast is automatically an evil pinko fag who is going to turn their sons gay and make their daughters stop having babies every 10 months. Or read a book or something.

Heck, no I'm not bitter. LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by PainterWoman
Did anyone hear a guy named Lakeoff interviewed on NPR... About how progressives can talk coherently about how they have "values," too? I think one thing the Republicans did very well was articulate what they were FOR. I think the Dems managed to mostly talk about what they were AGAINST... which is not quite so appealing.

I didn't hear that guy, but you are so right. The campaign was so intent on telling people where Kerry stood on the issues, they forgot that the whole point was to make people like you. :rolleyes: Absolutely true. If he'd been a pious pandering dimwit, he might have gotten elected. All that insistence on keeping to the issues missed the point. I don't think Democrats have the stomach for the dishonesty it takes to hoodwink the "average voter". I mean, can you believe that all these ultra conservative Christian types were led to the polls believing that a man who'd been arrested 3 times had better values than an upstanding senator who'd served with distinction in Vietnam? There really is no hope for this country, not in the short run.

I do think, if anything, this election has opened some people's eyes and perhaps radicalized some young people and a few staunch old liberals, like me. All I want to do now is work for abortion rights and against religious inroads into government. I'm through thinking people will see reason if you just present it to them. My only problem is that I already live in a "blue state" where people refuse to be told what to do. Do I need to move?

Kiwi

Cowpernia 11-04-2004 02:43 PM

The goat bells are MINE!!! I bought goat bells on ebay!!! yEHHHAHHH. I am mad at the Democrats. They shoulda done a better job but the GOATTT BELLS ARE MINE!! til Christmas.

Wabby 11-04-2004 03:19 PM

The reason that Bush won is that ppl in the south and the midwest do not relate to Kerry. It's certainly not because Bush has done a good job. It's not enough to appeal to ppl in the northeast and west coast. Like it or not, it's not all about issues. It's a popularity contest and Kerry didn't have enough "ah shucks, I'm just a common guy" charisma that he needed. We need to start grooming the next Democratic nominee now.

My puter is giving me all kinds of trouble. I'm afraid I have some kind of virus, so I won't be emailing until I figure it out. Don't want to infect anybody. Ick.

Kiwonk 11-04-2004 06:31 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Poor Wabbit! Computer sick! DH's puter is always contracting adware and spyware; we have to keep at it all the time.

I'm uploading 2 amusing pictures. One is our jack-o-lantern in the dark, and the other one I call "Bush reaching across the aisle". I was so infuriated yesterday that I took a swipe at the photo of Bush on the front page of the paper and somehow managed to rip this exact piece of paper out. Doesn't it look like he's (somewhat incompetently) flipping the bird? :lol:

We have to amuse ourselves where we can.

Kiwi

Kiwonk 11-04-2004 06:35 PM

I like this:

The most telling statistics on the Florida vote were printed on page 27A of the Nov. 3 Herald. For Bush voters, the issues were terrorism, moral values and taxes. For Kerry voters, the issues were the economy/jobs, healthcare and education. This is the essence of the ''two Americas'' that we hear so much about: Fear and greed vs. health and well-being.

FRED BERTRON, Miami
(from the Miami Herald)

Cowpernia 11-04-2004 08:29 PM

does anyone here use a GPS? help me. Come on AIM and help me. NOW>

PainterWoman 11-04-2004 11:41 PM

I'm lumpy, but don't "lump me in"
 
Wabbs... I think it isn't so much "the south" that was for Bush as for people who don't live in cities. I'm pretty proud that Dallas actually elected a lesbian Hispanic WOMAN for county sheriff! :cp: :bravo:

Kiwi said:
This is the essence of the ''two Americas'' that we hear so much about: Fear and greed vs. health and well-being.

I completely agree.... I may not be "religious" in the traditional sense, but I have enough new age hooey in my blood to believe that love is the opposite of fear, that we become anything we really HATE, and that if we want to make a change in the world, we have to become what we want.

Cowper: congratulations on the goat bells... please post a picture.... Do they come with goats?

I managed to stay on program today. It would have been a beautiful day to walk. but somehow, I didn't. I went to work, and then had a "perfect" dental checkup, x-rays included. Must google some of the cardiovascular lingo the heart doctor bandied about regarding hubby. :crossed:

Lohani 11-05-2004 07:47 AM


If you think that the republicans vs democrats is fear and greed vs health and well-being you should come to NJ. Our democratic operators make Carl Rove look like Mr. Rogers.
I do not have GPS, but I think I'd like DD to have it in her car(or better yet, implanted under her skin). It is very worrisome to have kids leave without knowing where they REALLY are.
We are finished college visiting. Applicatons are complete. Now the wait.
Wabby, we just replaced our hard drive due to infections. It was cheap. I'm trying to be good about leaving Norton on all the time, but it makes the computer run so slowly.
I think I've bounced back. It's been hard, but I've scraped the bumper sticker off my car and I'm ready for '08. I just don't understand. How could so many people look at exactly what I'm looking at and come to such an opposite conclusion? Oh well.


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