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Old 01-26-2009, 09:30 PM   #76  
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OK, home now, and wanted to post a quick reply.

CyndiM--South Beach helped you with your moodiness? As in, hormonal imbalances? I saw this Oprah show about a week or so ago (I know, I know, I shouldn't put so much stock into anything I hear on TV, my hub mocks me by saying "Is Oprah a Doctor or something?") but anyway, the main topic was our crazy hormonal chaos from anywhere around age 35 to 55, and she along with others have sworn by finding a doctor who tests and then prescribes "bio-identical" hormones, the 4 or 5 most important to us and that go into a flux at mid-life. Since I saw this show I have thought about getting tested just to check them. See what is high or low or very low at this time in me.

And Red, apparently this has a lot to do with facial breakouts as well. My face started acting up again about 3-4 years ago, and I have to treat it with stuff all the time to try and control the madness. I forget if I told you this before--of course, stress seems to affect it as well. My new-ish dermatologist (a woman) recently suggested I may have PCOS--something no one has ever suggested I get checked for before. But I guess break-outs, coupled with very irreguler periods (which I've had for years now) and extreme difficulty losing weight and always tending to be overweight--all are common components of this. I will ask my Ob-Gyn next time I see him, about it.

Anyway, off I go now to make dinner--DH is looking at me like "well? Are we going to eat anytime tonight or what?"
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Old 01-26-2009, 09:35 PM   #77  
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Apple--I forgot to add I guess I am happy DH didn't really know or care about that FB game on Saturday--it was nice to not have to revolve our life around the games! We went to see "The Wrestler" and saw Mickey Rourke's come-back performance. Next we will see "The Reader". My favorite movie recently is Slumdog. I do so hope it wins the Oscar--a foreign film to win a Best Picture, and a feel-good one at that--it would be a great achievement!
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Old 01-27-2009, 05:35 AM   #78  
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Hi, people. Not feeling very happy about myself. Really feeling like I am out of control when it comes to eating and my weight. I DON'T know what happened. I really don't.
Oh well, I just made my green vegetable juice. Maybe that will help. I am kind of afraid though. I feel out of control, like I really can't care anymore. This is not good.
mod, Apple, Cyndi, sorry I just don't feel like writing... Best of luck to you all though...
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Old 01-27-2009, 06:49 AM   #79  
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I told myself that despite the binge (1,500 cals!) I would make vegetable juice and this vegetable soup. I made the juice. The soup is cooking as I type. I feel a little better. Can we say bootstraps? Grab hold and pull!




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Red--1500 calories doesn't sound so bad--is that in one sitting, or the entire day? Even if just one sitting, I wouldn't get so down. It really isn't all that much and very easy to correct over the next 24-48 hours or so. As someone on another thread recently posted, a single slice of a type of pizza had 700-800 calories per slice!! I can't remember which pizza, maybe a Costco one, in any case, I was like !!! I love pizza, and DH and I have one almost every week--and it is so easy for me to eat half (but in recent months, I only eat 3 slices, he eats 5. Sometimes I can eat just two.....) So even 2 slices are already 1500 calories!!! Really has made me cautious now, but I still have some occasionally. To not would encourage a complete binge sometime later on stuff I really didn't want.

SO forgive yourself, give yourself a little permission sometimes to eat something you really want--and don't look on it as a binge. In the larger scheme of things, it's ok, once in awhile. Just not every day!!

Of course--this comes from someone who is still not at her goal either, so maybe my FWIW (nod to CyndiM) isn't the advice you need to hear........

Here's another thought, before I go to work--every trainer and fitness expert I've ever talked to has said with a frequent "good" exercise regime in place, you can have more of the stuff you love, without any ill effects. In other words, if you are getting in your WO 5-6 days/week, a good effort, then you don't have to be so so strict with the diet--still need to be mindful, of course, if you want to lose, but you can go "off plan" occasionally, and fit in that stuff you really have a craving for.

Just have to "work it off" ya'know? Don't look at it as a set-back.....

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Old 01-27-2009, 03:26 PM   #81  
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I ran on the treadmill at the gym today, to see about the 3k. I can see why people might fing running boring, if they are running on a treadmill. Yuck I'd much rather be going somewhere. Anyway, I went 2 miles in 25 minutes. I walked the last 5 min, and the first 3 min or so was spent figuring out the machine. (I've never used this particular one before) So I don't think I can catch up to the 36 minutes just yet, but it's a goal of mine! I only plan on the treadmill once a week. I only like it because it paces you. I'll lay out a 3K run in the neighborhood to work on.
Hey Red. You really are going through a rough patch. Well, we are all here for you and you just have to get back the ol' Red I can-do-anything-if-I-put-my-mind-to-it attitude and get rolling again!!You can do it!!
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Old 01-27-2009, 07:41 PM   #82  
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Hi there, Apple, mod. Thanks for your support. This is not just a patch. It's a long dark tunnel and I am sick of it. I am late getting out to work again, but I did have a good sleep, which is unusual these days.

My eyes are badly swollen from crying BUT it's not anything alarming. There was a show I was watching on TV last night that is about songs that make you cry. The panel listens and then rates the song on how much it made them cry. This is very Japanese, by the way. Of course, I was crying constantly. My God, what a sap.

My skin is better but I don't know if it's due to the latest herb from the herbalist or my own self-medications of spirulina. I used to take spirulina (it's an algae) all the time, then ran out and never ordered it. Have to order from the States because the stuff here is way too expensive and low quality. Anyhow, something is changing because my skin is better. Hallelujah!
There happened to be a link on getting back on track after a sugar binge in my mail this morning. Can't find the link, only the email, but it was on this site, which seems to have a lot of helpful articles. http://www.firstourselves.com/

The binge was my usual style, just start with one and keep going. So, mod, it was just the binge and not my entire day's eating. Heck, if it were the entire day I wouldn't care so much. Though it would be bad nutrition at least the calories wouldn't be that much. In fact, they'd be WAY lower than I usually eat. All in all, I'm trying to give myself what I want but not overdo it. I don't think it's going to work. Sugar and I do NOT mix. It's the same as alcohol. It is NEVER just a bit. Oh well, we've been there before.

Making the vegetable juice and soup was a huge victory for me though. That's the stuff I have to be eating. These days I don't want it though. Just shows how depressed I am.

Apple, good luck on staying off the brew. mod, my problem is I never have a plan. I so hate structure, really despise it and thus, with the present full-time job, I am hating my life. I wish I could learn to keep everything out of the office. I guess I am simply not meant to work.
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Hi people. Oh, heck, I'm talking to myself again. La dee dah, da dee dah.
Anyhow, I had an interesting day foodwise. Though I am eating sugar, I forced myself to eat some disgustingly healthy stuff. Now, you know that's gotta be bad because I actually like the green vegetable juice I make. Anyhow, the weird thing was is that I didn't have to eat junk. I didn't really want to....but I did. Now, I'm sick with a cold, but that has never stopped me before. So, I'm wondering, duh, if eating really healthy stuff might be key to getting the fat off? Gosh, if it were, I would make this a challenge. I would still allow anything, but I would HAVE to eat vegetables and soups and such, things that I have NOT been eating even when I was off sugar. Let's experiment a little bit. AND, I feel better mentally too. Of course, it could all have to do with the fact that I left work early because I felt so bad and, surprise, surprise, once home I felt fine! Sigh. It's the same old, same old.
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Hey Red - I'm not awake enough yet to post much but you found the reason I had the vegetable challenge on my list. Every day I include at least 4.5 cups of veggies (real veggies not just salad greens) and at least a 1/2 c serving of beans. It leaves a lot less room for binging on bad stuff. But seriously, and I know you know this, unless you come up with a way to deal with the stress you're just setting yourself up for failure. The stress is going to get you every time, that's obvious. I can't tell you what you should do but obviously you need to do something - either get the h*ll out of that job or find ways to manage your stress (yoga, more exercise, punching bag.....). Use the challenges to make it work for you. They worked for me and I am so grateful to you for having this thread here. Let us cheer you on to taking control of this mess and getting back on track to being healthy.
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Hi Cyndi! Yeah, stress. It's not the stress so much. That I DO manage. It's the malaise that is affecting me. I need to make change and what better change than to get the body I want. I must. I must. I must.
Ok, if you're saying vegetables are the way to go, then I'm going to do it. Last night, with the soup cooking (it had bean sprouts in it) it took me back 25 years to when I first came here and I got down to 60 kg by eating a lot of soup, with lots of sprouts. And it came off easily, the fat. It was the first time since pre-puberty that I looked good. Wow, maybe I can do it. Thanks for the support. I'm turning in now. Good night! Good morning!
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I always find Day 1 kind of depressing. There is so much more to do. I don't feel like I'm getting anywhere until day 5 or so.
Ah-ha! Soup! Red, that is a fantastic idea! I am trying to find a way to work soup in at least once a week. Right now I have to un-load some spinach and soup would be a good way to use it up. I think you are really on to something. You might have to slowly but surely find your way, but you can do it. I had been eating really terribly too, and so I'm slowly adding more good stuff to my diet. More fruit and fruit juices, more salads. Cyndi has some valid points too, about stress. But feeling good about yourself is an important part of that, so get on it chick.
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OK, feeling a bit better today. Hope I can knock this cold back with healthy eating!

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Apple -- You snuck that completed challenge right by me! Congratulations!! Don't be depressed! My gosh! Why??!!? You are not on Day 1, you are on Day 22 or 44 or whatever. If it helps, do like I was doing and carry the number over as a cumulative thing along with the number of this round.
Yeah, stress, well, if I had other options I wouldn't be stressed. My other options are only more stress inducing. And the economy over here has sucked for foreigners for years now. Anyhow, if I can get feeling good about myself and my body I will be in MUCH better shape..no pun intended.
I just ordered the Mary Lou Retton Platform. Seen it? Looks like fun.

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Later all! Mod, where are ya? Cyndi? Others? Get back in here, buckle down and do some challenges........she, the unchallenged one says. I'm going to call something soon. You bet.

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Cool the forces of resistance...

Well, I'm talking to myself again here. I guess the time difference just doesn't make for getting together.
I am still pretty sick with a cold so a lack of appetite and lessened sense of taste makes it a lot easier not to eat. That said, I forced myself to eat my soup. I literally have to force myself to because, even though it doesn't taste that bad, it's the last thing I want. I want all these other sweet things, junk things, all sorts of food porn! It's bizarre. It's like my body is rebelling against health. Why, oh why do I want to eat garbage and not healthy stuff. I feel diseased, like some sort of twisted, traumatized fiend. Oh, heck, that's getting a little too close for comfort.....!
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Hmm... Thirteen hours later and not a peep... Where are all our challengers?!?!?

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Hey Red! Do you chew gum? Sometimes it helps when you are about to eat something bad. Or brush your teeth. I don't like eating right after that. I've been trying the gum thing lately, but I keep forgetting and sometimes I have already started munching. At least I don't munch as much. Good idea about the carry over from the last challenge, but how does that work for pauses? The same I guess... My little brain might not be able to handle it...
I think I'm catching a wee cold too, plus I have TOM coming up and with it serious munchies...
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