Well Geneve if it is any consolation I was 38 when Isabelle was born. The pregnancy was fine and it was a girl (after two boys). My friends still laugh about how I was convinced I would have a boy because I was meant to have a boy....

Meanwhile I know this is all I want to have. My husband flips out with each added responsibility. I get buried in kids and kid stuff. Everyone told me the third was the one that threw them under.... hence the 6 years between number 2 and number 3.

I have recommitted to WW and am trying to follow it religiously..........well, sort of. I worked out on the Precor today for 20 minutes earning 2 points. Woo hoo! At least I did something. Sitting on my duff is getting way too easy.

I am trying to do the things I have to do to get a business license and sell my crafts. Crafts being soap, lotion, and dolls. I could spend days just researching on the computer.......these machines are either a wonderful thing or a curse.




Barb

Even with the problems we are having breastfeeding and the fact that Mya is only 5 weeks old I am already feeling the ticking of that clock! If we don't have fertility problems we won't be waiting long to have another baby...

Although finances aren't looking so great here at the moment either. :(

Lara
:wave:

Hi all. How is everyone doing? I'm not too bad. The DH has been working out of the house...did I tell you that he got fired? I don't think I did. This was at the beginning of April and since then he has been doing tons of consulting work and has made more money than if he was still at his old job. He has been assured of getting a job with this place, they are just waiting til they have a backlog of work that they can go to the owner and say, "we need to hire someone now!" then he'll have the job. They do need someone, obviously or he wouldn't be getting all this consulting work. So he's on the computer all day and I never get the chance to get on.

Anyway things are okay. I lost another 2.6lbs last week which really surprised me because this is my TOM and I usually retain water like mad. Been exercising fairly regularly too, still need to work harder on drinking more water.

I DO NOT feel the biological clock ticking. I did have a very passing thought about 2 weeks ago about having another. There is this commercial with 2 little boys and Oreo cookies that makes me want to give Drake a little brother or sister.

bc - how is the WW going? What point range are you at? I am 24 -31 and try to aim for the low end but the past week I've been more in the 29-30's though today I managed 25. Do you try to eat a lot of low point things so you can eat a lot of food or do you eat 'normal' food but just eat less of it?

geneve - hope your flu is better and Leo didn't catch it. Drake hasn't been sick yet, knock on wood. Moving someplace warm sounds nice but I'd like someplace that is just warm, not hot and humid, that's nasty.

lara - how is the pumping going? did you get that med?

PANTS.
Spent ages on a reply...so long i got logged off the net. Am going off in a huff!!!
Love to all.
Geneve:devil:

Hi all. Sorry your post got booted Geneve, that has happened to me and it is such a pain. It's okay, we love you anyway!

Lost 2.4lbs last week for a total of 12 lbs over 3 weeks. It is the most I have ever lost. I'm so loving Weight Watchers right now.

Drake is doing well, his top 2 teeth are coming in but he is handling it well. Slept through the night last night which was wonderful. Lately he's been waking up around 4:30 but after a bit of formula he'll go back for a couple of hours. I felt bad about having to use a bottle to get him to sleep but now I am okay with it. It's not the end of the world and right now it is more important that we are both happy and healthy and if that means a bottle at bedtime then that's what it means. I think he will eventually outgrow it when his teething let's up.

How is everyone doing? Hope those babies aren't giving you grief!

Jen...BIG BIG well done to you!!:D :D
12lbs is lots, you must be feeling great.
Sorry I haven't posted for a while, still feeling a bit poorly, and the kids are driving me mad, so i'm feeling a bit sorry for myself. Leo wants to be walked round the house (you know, where you hold his hands and your back feels like it's breaking...wish he was a bit taller or I was a bit shorter) Ted is being all jealous now Leo can do more and is getting 9sorry demanding) more attention, and so I am torn. Poor old Andy doen't get a look in beacuse by the time the kids are in bed I'm shattered. leo has also started getting up earlier.
My weight is still inching down slowly, less than a pound a week but as it's going in the right direction I'm not complaining. I'm trying hard not to eat in the evenings, and still exercising. I know you guys don't have it, but I'm approaching a 'stone' (14lbs) barrier, for some reason whenever I get there I start to put on weight again. My shrink told me I am a 'self sabotager' due to my upbringing I stop myself from suceeding whenvever I feel i am getting close. It's enormously frustrating, I do it in everything, but most notably with my weight and my career, every time I win an award or sell some work I find I can't work until I feel useless again. It's like PMT, you know you are doing it, but you just can't stop yourself.
Oh well, Leo is crying (as per usual) Ted won't get out of bed, sounds lik tyhey are playing my tune.
Ladies, have a good day,
gen

Glad everyone is still around. I think spring has hit and the good (well, better) weather with it. I am getting isabelle out for walks more often. I am also finally learning her schedule. In the morning she wakes up and basically eats and then goes back to bed..... well she causes some trouble in the middle of that, but still she goes back to bed. She sleeps for a few hours (while I am on my big butt on the computer) and then wakes again. I feed her and and then after a few hours she needs to sleep again. This time for a shorter nap. This usually falls into the time when the boys get home from school. Of course on weekends this schedule is thrown up into the air. :dizzy:

I am trying to be good and follow the WW, however I haven't been recording my food down this week and I find that is often the key. I have to remain more than conscious of what I eat.

I have been going on more walks.......but not power walks.

I have been busy getting soaps and lotions ready for the possibility of selling. I still have to apply for the farmers market.......

I am glad everyone is doing well. Jen your weight loss is amazing! I am not weighing myself so I have no idea. I just know my "I will never wear these again -fat pants" are fitting a bit too well. :( They aren't tight, just comfortably loose.


Barb

Hi everyone. Well spring is certainly here, my beautiful garden is busting with life, birds singing and Leo crawling about eating the dasies.
Big day approaching....my birthday on Saturday, my Mothers friday and leo's christening Sunday with big party. I was hoping I'd have lost a stone which won't happen without a miracle, but somewhere between 7&9lbs is a distinct possibility. I'm hoping to go to the gym at least 4 times this week...and swim. I got my old leather trousers out to try on...when I can get them on again I will consider myself slim. I can almost get them over my thighs, which may sound awful but it is better than before!
Leo is driving me nuts. he wants constant attention and cries if he doesn't get it. Some days it seems like he never stops. He wants to be walked round the house, and then if you won't let him climb the stairs or investigate the dishwasher he cries.
He wakes up any time after 5.30, I have to try and keep him awake until 8.15 when we leave for the school bus run. He then sleeps for somewhere between 30 mintes and an hour. In th afternoon he'll sleep fpr about an hour again at around 1.00 and then for some reason he needs about 15minutes at about 4.30. I wish he would sleep longer in the day, he's frequently tired and emotional, but I think the pain from his teeth wakes him up early. He has 8 now and the back ones are on the way with no respite.
I could get very down about being a mummy at he moment. I wish I had more friends within walking distance, mine are all far away enough to make a visiti a day long thing, or they work.
I have a sweet christening outfit for him...white linen romper with beige embroidered butterflies on the yoke (will show off his darling chubby dimply legs) and little white leather shoes with bows! Closest I'll ever get to buying a dress!
Not sure what I will be wearing, i'm not buying anything new until I can enjoy buying what I want to rather than what fits!
A local shop has agreed to display and sell my childrens portraits. Will let you know how it goes Barb...we could be a pair of home tycoons!
Night night everyone!
Geneve

Geneve, anything to make a buck......;) :lol: ;)

Hope you have a wonderful birthday!



Barb

So how was Mother's Day Barb? geneve, do they have Mother's Day in GB?

Mine was okay except that when my hubby called his mother she gave him attitude about us not driving down to visit them then today I got a card with this cheap heart pin from her and a note saying that she would have given this to me on Sunday except that we didn't come down to visit but she wanted me to have it anyway. Both of us were right po'd. Why is it that we have to be the ones to drive around everywhere? They have 2 cars and as much free time as we do, they certainly are capable of getting in the car and driving 45 minutes to visit us.

makes me so mad :mad: :mad: :mad:

anyway...I gained back .2 lbs this past week, I know why though. Not enough water and too much snacking. I'm going to do better this week though.

How is everyone's little darlings? drake has both top teeth in now. He is still having problems with anything thicker than pureed baby food though he has been able to get down the odd Cheerio. he is actually taking naps longer than 30 minutes, today he had a 2 hour nap in the am and 1 hour this afternoon. I was extremely pleased. almost didn't know what to do with myself!

well take care all, enjoy your week.

Hi Jen, hope you're wearing that pin:lol:
Yes, we do have Mothers day here, but ours is in March sometime.
I'm still inching downwards slowly but have been pleawsed this week as a few people have commented on my reduced size.
Leo is utterly miserable. he has a cold which is stopping him sleeping as much as he wants to so he's waking up at maybe 5.30 in the morning then getting through the day on one or two hours of sleep taken in cat naps. It's horrible. DH has the day off work today so for once I am not holding him walking round.It's his christening Sunday...almost 70 people here to watch him grizzle, I wish I had the guts to cancel it!
The local kids wear shop offered to sell my drawings (you know the type of thig, pastels of children from photos) for me. The woman who owns the shop loves them, and the cafe next door to her have taken two to hang on their walls as well. I just hope I get a few orders in, it would make a lot of difference to things here.
Anyway, i feel I should go and help with Leo who is very, very unhappy.
You'll lose it all again next week Jen, just keep on keeping on...I figure it will take me as long to lose it as it did to put it all on.
Geneve

Well, here I am...
First off let me wish every one a late happy mothers day.

geneve, that is great about the store and cafe selling your pictures. I hope you get as many orders as you can handle. I'm sorry that Leo is feeling so icky... doesn't that always happen for special occasions? I hope he feels better soon.

Jen, I agree with you... you'd think that as you are the ones who would have to cart along a baby and all the assorted paraphernalia that goes with one they could have made the 45 minute drive. Of course... you could be like me and have you mil living in your house with you... which isn't all bad. :^:

Barb, I hope that everything is going well in your business endeavours too. I tried to make homemade lotions once and did a better job of making a mess of my kitchen than anything else. Although I do still use the Unpetroleum jelly I made. although it didn't exactly turn out the consistency of vaseline... good luck to you, I wish you lived closer, I'd definitely buy handcrafted lotions.

I got the domperidone last thursday so I've now been on it for a week. It has about doubled my milk supply so far, maybe even tripled it. :D however I somehow cut my right nipple so I'm tossing out half the milk cause it's bloody and upsets her tummy. She's still not latching on consistantly, but every so often she does. I'm not sure how much she is actually getting those times though because it's always much shorter between feedings after those sessions. The good thing though is that with the increased breast milk she is no longer as constipated, and we have been able to stop the dark Karo syrup in water which was making her projectile all over the place as a side effect.

My middle sister was here for a week, and we had a fabulous visit which is surprising as we don't always get along very well. I guess having the baby to dote on changes the dynamic a lot. I told her the only thing I had to do the entire week was get my hair done. So she made an appt at a much more upscale place than I usually go to and she paid for the whole thing! She said it was a Mothers day present from Mya. I am now a red head with "FUN" (her word) blond streaks. I really like the cut (much shorter and I'm sure after I get used to it easier) and the color so I will be saving my pennies to go back there to keep it up... minus the streaks probably... I think they are just a little too "FUN" for me. Brad likes it too which is an added bonus as usually if I ask him anything about my hair he either sort of shrugs and says whatever or tells me I should just shave it all off and then laughs. What's that all about I ask you? :lol:

Mya had her 8 week healthy child check up today and had her 4 shots... they really upset her. She is sleeping fitfully right now, and keeps crying in her sleep. :( I feel so badly, but I know I'd feel ever so much worse if I didn't have her immunized and she caught one of the diseases. Otherwise she is doing well... has gained exactly 2# since birth which puts her at 10 pounds 8 ounces, she is 23 1/2 inches long... up 2 1/2 inches, and now has a 16 inch head also up 2 1/2 inches. puts her in the 50th percentile in weight and 90th in length.

so there's my book... but I think it catches you all up on what's been happening for me...

Lara
:wave:

Lara - I'm so glad the domperidone is working for you. I'll bet things are a lot easier now that you've got milk coming out the wazoo. I think your hair sounds great and I would keep the blond streaks. I recently went 'red' too and I"m thinking I might want to try some blond streaks of my own!


Geneve - hope your event goes well tomorrow, I'm sure it will be fine even though 70 people sounds a bit overwhelming. congrats on finding someplace to sell your pics. I hope you make a ton of $. How is Leo's cold?

Not much new with me. Drake is now munching on crackers so I'm hopeful that we might get past the pureed food someday. He is taking longer naps during the day which has been really great. I"m finally getting some stuff done around the house.

Take care all, have a nice weekend.

LOL I wouldn't exactly say "milk coming out the wazoo" You have to remember that I was only geting about 3/4 ounce combined before... now I get at least 1 1/2 sometimes as much as 2 1/2 - just under 3. I'd like to be getting more, so I'm trying to pump every 3 hours instead of every four. We'll see if that works. Mya still does not like to latch on consistently, and the domperidone is over $110 (!!!!) for a 30 day supply, so I'm not sure we will be continuing after this month. but atleast she will have had as much breast milk as I could provide her for 3 full months. It's the best I could do for her and I'll have to be happy with that.

geneve, I hope the christening goes well. My church has a baby dedication each easter Sunday and since we missed it this year Mya will have to wait until next year. I can't imagine having 70 people descend on my home though -- good luck to you!

Lara
:wave:

Yikes!! I can't imagine having to pay that much for domperidone. I can't remember how much mine was but it sure wasn't that much. I don't think it was more than about $20 and our insurance covers prescriptions anyway. Still I think 3 months worth of breast milk is pretty good. You did your best, that's nothing to feel bad about. I was a formula raised baby, most of our generation probably was too and I think we turned out okay.

It's not covered at all by our insurance. And there was only one pharmacy in the entire area that would fill the prescription and of all places it was the hospital pharmacy in Sun City West--the retiree community!! Of course after the viagra incidents out there maybe they need it! :o I had to have it fedexed from them to me or drive the hour and 20 minutes each way!

Domperidone is also used as a stomach medication, it assists with speeding up digestion in a way. It is just a happy side effect that it also assists with let down in lactating women. We give it a lot at the hospital especially to patients that have feeding tubes. Just FYI.

Do you know, sometimes I quit moaning about this country and think how lucky I am. All medicines for kids are free until the age of 16, and you get a years free medicine and dentistry each time you have a baby. I'm having all my fillings re-done! After that you only pay a fixed amount for a prescription, about £5, I think, no matter what the cost of the drugs. I'm shocked to think of you having to spend all that money! Still, you know you have done the best for Mya, and yourself. I struggled with expressing for 3 months with Ted, then I stopped. If I rememebr correctly the first 12 weeks is supposed to be the most important time.
I was breast fed, but at the time my Mother smoked, so I'm not sure if I'm glad or not!!
The christening...well, we all got to the church, only to foind out the priest had forgtte. I kid you not. Then he had the cheek to say I must have got the date wrong as they never do in service christenings at pentecost! As if I'm supposed to know that! In the end we all had to sit through the mass (and my in-laws were late) then wait for him to get ready for a rushed baptism at the end. By this time he was howling with tiredness and hunger and it was just awful i wish i'd had the guts to walk out. By the time we got home some of the non church guests had arrived and were wondering where we were...
In the end I just got hammeringly drunk, something I haven't done for ages. It was that or cry. BUT the party was great. i have a pale green carpet covered in red wine, which I'm not too thrilled about, but no other mishaps, and a chance to catch up with my family and friends. And the sun shone, so the kids bounced round on the hired bouncy castle all day long.
As i wirte I'm very sleepy and my head hurts! Oh well, i should know better at me age!
And obviously the diet didn't happen!
Sending you all a piece of totally calorie free virtual christening cake!
Geneve:hb:

Geneve - you poor thing, and poor Leo! What rotten luck the priest forgetting Leo's christening. It sounds like quite the day. Well it is over and done with now. Did that red wine come out of your carpet?

Only lost 0.8 lbs at my weigh in on Friday. Was very depressed by that and ate myself silly but recovered on Saturday and have been okay today as well. I think I let my exercise slack off a bit and I've just been getting Drake to eat crackers so I usually eat a few to keep him company. I know crackers are not super high in calories but still I'm sure I don't need them.

Hope everyone is having a great weekend. Take care.

halloooooo, hotties, anyone out there except me????

I am here too Jen! I haven't been posting as much because there just isn't the time, nor anything new. I know I am pretty pathetic ;)

Anyway I am glad you are here adn the thread hasn't moved. I have it set so I get e-mail notification if anyone answers this thread. This makes it foolproff that I keep caught up.

Today is Monday and I am off to a new start. I want to document everything I eat this week........I hope I keep to it! So far on this Monday morning I have just eaten a Go Lean bar and black coffee. I switched from coffee with cream to black because I figure I can cut some calories out there....however instead of 'breakfast in a cup' which is what I call my coffee with cream, I had a growling stomach. I guess I need to make sure I have food to eat too if I cut that cream out.

The weather has been great here, sunny but not hot. I am just itching to get out to work in the garden but I don't know how I will do that with the darling outside too. Maybe her big brothers will entertain her this afternoon. The garden seems to be the thing to go when I have inside things to do.

I still dont' know if I will be selling soaps, lotions and dolls at the farmers market.........hopefully I will hear about a jury appointment this week.

Isabelle is now a year old. She is such a sweetie. She was tickling me earlier today. She just loved to get a reaction from me. I had to fake it because those tiny hands are just not capable of tickling ........they are just too cute. It was fun to see her dissolve into fits of laughter over my giggles.

Today my boys (who a few months ago explained to me that French Kissing was when you kiss with your lips open) were telling me about French Kissing. They were pretty graphic and I think they are losing some of their innocense judging from their comments. :( I guess they were bound to learn these things. I was surprised to see they both had the same story so I guess they had already talked about it between themselves. Proof that they have a life seperate from me, and actually discuss things without me. I guess it is all part of negotiating the world and all of it's complexities. They really are sweet.

Ok back to other stuff!


Barb

Hi Jen, sorry! I though tI was th e last to post and have been kind of meaning to look for ages!
I'll blame it on teething...that's my excuse for everything these days!
Hows life??
Geneve

I'm here... totally stressed about starting back to work but even more stressed about the lack of a paycheck...

Tomorrow, (Tuesday) I start back... only 1 day this week thankfully, but I will be separated from Mya for the longest time since she was born... even when she was in the NICU I didn't stay away more than 2 1/2 hours at a time since I was trying to breastfeed her. Tomorrow will be at least 5 hours. Poor Brad... he's going to be staying with her while I work since he can go in later to work, and I've got little instruction notes stuck all over the place... and reminder notes too. I think I'm obsessing. I know he is great with her, but I've always been here to take over. Now I'll be a 1/2 hour drive away should I be needed.

I'm so stressed. :(

Lara

You have my total sympathy Lara. I treid to go back after having ted and it was awful. My job entailed long hours and lots of travel and even part time it was far too much. I used to be worried about him all the time, and I found my priorities had totally changed. I found it hard to get fired up about work stuff, I had made the jump from being responsible for someones budget to being responsible for someones life. I finished after about 6 months, and although I miss being able to spend time in the company of adults, and I miss the status I had (Mother apparently have none) and I hate having less money, I am glad when I saw the difference on the faces of the kids being picked up from school by their child minders and the look they had when Mum or Dad was there.
You will know what is the right thing to do. We were lucky in that with tighteniong the belt a few notches we can just about manage without me working, I know many simply don't have that choice.
Must go, Ted tells me the cat has found a frog in the garden. This is the bit where I pretend I don't find frogs leaping about even mildly disturbing!!! Last year the cat brought one in and I have to try and get it out from under the cooker! They scream if the cat actually gets it's paws on them and it sounds a lot like a baby crying...gviven me a few nasty turns before.
It's jubilee bank holiday here a 4 day weekend...did you get an extra day Jen?
Geneve:dizzy:

Hallo all.

Lara, I know exactly what you mean. I'll be going back in 3 months full time and it is freaking me out already. I haven't been away from Drake for more than about 1 1/2 hours since he was born. I'm sure it will be far worse for me than for him. My mom is coming up at the end of the month to look after him while dh and I go out for an evening with friends. I'm sure I'll feel a lot of anxiety the whole time.

Geneve, no we don't get any time off because of the Queen's jubilee even though we are still in the Commonwealth. We've had lots of tv coverage though of all the events.

Drake is doing well. He is teething on and off. I can tell when something is going on because he'll wake up around 4:30 every morning. When there is no teething he sleeps through the night. This morning he didn't want to go back into his crib so I sat in his room with him dozing on my chest. Luckily I did get him back in the crib after about 30 minutes and he slept for another 2 hours which was great.

WW is not going well. the past 2 weeks I have lost 0.8 and 0.4 lbs. It is $15 each week for that bit of information. I don't think I am going to go anymore. I will stick to the plan but just weigh in at home. I mean 0.4 lbs could have been because I wore shorts instead of pants and I was wearing no socks and sandals. So I think I have given them enough money already. actually I had decided even before I signed up that I would only go for a couple of months. I have already spent enough money over the years on trying to lose weight so I"m not going to spent a whole lot more. I still can do the plan without going in for weigh ins.

Take care all.

Jen, If it is any consolation I think the meeting rates are about the same in the USA, so if you consider the exchange rate you are getting what a 40% discount? ;) :) ;) Does that make you feel better?

Also a loss is much better than a gain, so congrats!




Barb

Well I still think my 0.4 lbs loss was because I was wearing shorts, no socks and sandals for my weigh-in. Yes it does make me feel a tiny bit better that I am paying less than in the US. Usually it is the other way around!

Drake's got more teeth coming in, these new ones will bring it up to 8 teeth. I figured something was going on as he has been cranky the past couple of days. he still isn't tolerating anything thicker than puree, I'm starting to despair that he'll ever eat table food. I know he will but it seems like such an uphill battle. He still isn't sitting up well by himself. He can go for a few seconds then he starts toppling over. He doesn't like sitting very much anyway. When I go to sit him up he'll straighten out his legs so he sort of slides forward, then I have to stand him up and start all over again. He's a sneaky little thing for 8 1/2 months old!

Take care.

Hi everyone...how's it going?
I must make more of an effort with my diet. Sometimes I feel like such a fraud posting here when I yo yo so much, and it irks me that I still weigh aboutt he same, although I guess with the exercise I'm a bit slimmer.
Yesterday was teeth day from ****. I had about 4 hours sleep and then Leo cried on and off all day...I was supposed to be going out with a group of about 8 friends I used to work with for a curry, and I made a huge effort to get there in the rain...and initially I was quite upset as one of the women had brought her other half (breaking the golden no partners rule which has ensured happy times for several years)..and I've met him before and I HATE him, he's so sexist and stupid and really foul mouthed. He got really drunk and was his usual charming self, I felt so sorry for her, she's a smart and beautiful girl and I can't imagine why she puts up with him. He called me 'just a housewife' ,,,,ggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
:mad: :mad:
Anyway, it all ended well and I got a chance to talk about some of the things I miss talking about. In a way I wish I could go back. BUT there's no way I could manage the hours so no point dreaming.
Jen, Leo really isn't eating much at all, and he's looking much thinner. It's all down to the teeth and the related pain when they eat. Leo's diet is shocking at the moment..almost as bad as mine!
The bit where they start doing things is very much leaps and plateaus (well, it was with Ted anyway, and Leo seems the same) usually about the time you get frustrated they decide to do something. You'll be putting away all the breakables before you know it!!
Enjoy the day...
Geneve

Geneve, I know what you mean about feeling like a fraud. I feel that way too sometimes, however I think this is still much more than a weight loss thread (or discussion) we end up supporting each other with kids, diet, exercise, and life. I tell myself that and I still feel like a fraud, but you know what? I have absolutely no desire to stop posting, nor stop reading the posts here. When someone posts I quickly read it and enjoy it -even if I don't always respond. :smug:

Knowing you, I bet you had some smart response to him. I think men in general, and expecially people who don't have any children, are clueless to what being home with kids entails. I was reading that to pay someone to do the jobs a mom does in a day it would cost more than $100,000 a year. I think if you see him again and he makes a statement like saying you are just a housewife, you should kindly offer him a day in your shoes. I think that would cure him.

It makes me angry when people make statements like that because those same people will be the first to complain about their lives when they do have children. Years ago my sister made a statement about me not having any money because I don't work (as in John's money is his and I don't work so I shouldn't have any). I THINK she sees it differently now, still what a mother does is considered free work while everyone elses labor gets rewarded with $$$

I know sometimes I get down on myself and think I don't have any work options, but I know I worked before I had kids. I also know I have an education and a post graduate degree. I AM able to work and to earn as much as my husband (well nearly) but we decided I would stay home. It makes me angry when people assume if you are home with kids you had no other options! :mad:

It looks like I will not be selling at the farmers market. At least not unless they change their policies. They do not allow lotions to be sold at the market atall and the woman said they already have enough soap makers. (actually I am not so sure why she thinks they have too many, they have one major soap maker and a at least one or two who incidentally have some soap in their booths. She told me there were four already -I haven't seen that.) Anyway I know my dolls would be fine, but I really don't want to sell only dolls. I don't think I would be able to make enough to make the daily payments, much less a profit. She tells me they have been talking about having a seperate group for cosmetic and toiletries and if they start that I might be able to sell them then. So instead of having them Jury my crafts, I decided to wait and see what happens. Meanwhile I have spend gobs and gobs of money on supplies and packaging (bottles and jars) and if I don't sell this stuff I am in a bad way. So I am exploring other avenues of selling. I might put up a website. I might also do some craft sales in the Fall. I have also though of having an open house and selling then. Something will happen and hopefully it will work out.

I am bummed because a lot of time went into making these soaps and toiletries look really good. I know they look more polished than the one's at the market now, and I think they would do well......... Grrrrrrr

Now about baby teeth! Isabelle was late to get them to begin with and I suppose she is late to get the following one's too. She still has only 6 teeth and she is a year old now. I guess she is just taking her sweet time with it. That is ok because she still eats everything, even if it does come out in chunks. :lol:

Working with kids, I think I have said how I feel. As long as you have good child care I think the kids do fine (mothers might not) because I think there is usually someone who bonds with the kids and nurtures them, as you would. I think manytimes we get caught up thinking kids need their mom when what they really need is someone who cares for them. We also need to support women who decided to stay home and those who decide to go to work -either one works!

I also think they need a parent home more important when they are middle school and high school. The teen years are tough and someone watching over them and guiding them is IMNHO more important. However this is also the time when mothers who were home go back to work, and when we let the kids handle more responsibility and be home on their own. I think kids feel a bit more secure knowing someone cares and is keeping an eye on them.

Ok my book is finished! ;)




Barb

Hi again,
As always interesting to hear your comments Barb, and I agree about the site...I see posting here as a way of meeting the kind of Mothers who I can't seem to find elsewhere ( iMYhom normal lol).
Leo is a nightmare. As I write am pushing him in the pram with one hand to stop the screaming outburts.He is too tired to do anything and too poorly to sleep.I feel very sorry for Ted, his half term holiday hasn't been much fun.
At least this has helped me on the 'next baby' debate, although I did have a bit of a pang when Rachel had hers on Friends last night! I had a new IUD in yesterday which releases progesterone...my sweet Doctor says it will make my periods lighter, which will be great.nderactive but not enough to do anything about, and she did say (whilst putting the thing in) that I seemed very fit apart from 'a bit of extra weight' (yeah,like 50lbs!!!).
Sounds like your market is a touch over organised...I thought you were in THE capitalist country, so why can't you sell and compete? Very odd.
As yet I have no paintings.....the shop owner says she has had dozens of enquiries and people saying they will bring in a photo, but as yet no-one has.
Still keeping myself going with coffee and biscuits I'm afraid....
Oh well, I suppose it could be vodka and pills!
Must go,I need to change arms.
How about in a few weeks we three have a bash at a small weight loss goal...we could all use the WW plan or something?
Please feel free to refuse!
Geneve :wave:

Hi all.

Lara - sorry to hear about your soap selling frustrations. I hope you are able to figure something out. How about flea markets or yard sales?

Geneve - poor Leo! Thank goodness Drake is not having that much pain with his teeth, once they break through he seems okay, actually slept through last night.

I actually lost a couple of lbs this week though I ate terribly yesterday. Things are starting to look a little grim financially since the dh hasn't been paid by the company he is doing contract work for. They are behind in everyone's pay except of course the salaried workers. I mean the contractors and suppliers are not getting paid which makes no sense to me at all. I think at this point they owe him at least $2000 which would help things out a lot. If he doesn't get it soon I don't know what we will do. The daycare called and asked if I wanted to start Drake going in July as they may have an opening and I said no but I may call back and see if it is still available. I might have to go back to work if dh doesn't start getting some regular $.

I've been working around the house a lot, finally getting things decorated and arranged the way I've been wanting to for awhile but just never had the time.

I'm up for some sort of exercise/diet challenge. I'm not going to WW anymore, frankly I don't want to spend the $ as at this point I think I can put my $15 to better use. I'm still following the points plan though (well not yesterday and the day before that I overshot my range by about 20 points, darn cheeseburgers!!).

Well must go, drake is starting to fuss. Take care all.

Yeah, I know...two posts in one day...has the screaming baby finally driven her mad? NO...but England won the football. The country has erupted, DH let out of work 30 mins early, parents have offered to have ted for the night so he can watch the replay uninterrupted (how sick is that when I have been here with the screaming teether all day) and I may, at last get an early night.
Beer and skittles all round.
:smug: :D

Well I'm glad to hear that England won a game, Canada doesn't even have a team in the World Cup. That's okay, we kicked butt in the Olympics in hockey so I'm not going to go nuts over soccer. Still there are a lot of people wear I live who are nuts about it. We have a lot of Italians in this city so you see a lot of Italian flags, also Brazil too though I don't know if they are Brazilians or just like the team. Hope you have a peaceful night away from screaming baby.

I'm feeling a bit blue. I haven't had the car all day, the dh took it because his truck is in the shop, so I feel like I"ve been cooped up all day with Drake. As much as I love him I like to get out and get some adult conversation once in awhile. We did go out for a walk but there was some shopping I wanted to do. Well dh rolled in around 8pm, just as I was putting Drake to bed with my car and his buddy has fixed the truck and is going to drive him back to get it then they are going out to eat. Well hey what about me? The past two nights my dinner has consisted of crackers and Cheez Wiz and an ice cream bar. So healthy eh? They were working on the truck last night as well. After he left I had a bit of a crying jag but I'm over it now. Drake has been so good today, I really can't complain about him. It just seems this time of the year dh gets busy with his friends and I'm at home a lot. Especially now with the baby and not being at work, I'm starting to feel a bit isolated. I'm okay though, just needed a bit of a moan.

Hope everyone has a nice weekend, take care.

Hi There
 

I was browsing the forums and came across this one. I'm 2 years and 2 months post-partum, does that count? :lol:
I wanted to post because I'm also a soapmaker and saw Barb's post on her farmer's market experience. I will be at my first market this Sunday. Hopefully it will go well.
I'm a SAHM of 2 boys (4 and 2). Just started WW (kind of) and have been going to the gym regularly for the last 6 weeks. Lost 6# so far. I have a lot to lose from 2 pregnancies and a total thyroidectomy this January.

Jessica

Hi everyone, hi Jessica and welcome. Of course you can join us...I have a 4 year old and a 10 onth old, who I blame for my weight, but really we use this site to post about all kinds of stuff. A thyroidectomy sounds awful....I've never heard of it before? How does it affect you?
Jen, so sorry for you, you are having a rough time of it aren't you? Sometimes I struggle to believe how easy the men have it, and how quickly our needs get put on the back burner. We bought a new (to us) car today, to replace my poor old VW Polo. I am insisting it's in my name, I know it's pathetic but I need to cling on to every little bit of status I can.....it's like if I don't keep on saying 'I'm here too' I might just disappear. When I was a kid, my older brother and i used to row over stuff, and when I complained about anything he'd say 'It doesn't matter, it's only you' which I think sums up the way they see us......
I hear Ted howling, which means I must go and tend to it.
Hang on in there girls...
Geneve

Welcome Jessica!

Did you have to have your thyroid surgicully removed?

Jen, when I read your post I wanted to post that it only gets worse...........but I didn't have a heart. My suggestion is to talk through these things completely and work something out now because you still have a lot of years with a child who needs supervision. I think even the most enlightened man doesn't think of what the mom is doing.

I find I register a vehicle in both of our names, while my husband will use only his. The kicker is we each have different last names so it does take a bit of work to do. I also open bank account in both of our names. It is simply a mans world out there.

Barb

Thanks for the welcome. :wave:
My doctor found a small lump on my thyroid and after a needle biopsy it was determined that it would have to be surgically removed to figure out what it was. It turned out to be benign but while they were operating they found a small bit of cancerous tissue on my thyroid. So they had to remove it completely. It's not as serious as it sounds. I'm perfectly healthy now. I just need to take thyroid hormone for the rest of my life since I no longer produce it. I did put on 14 pounds between the surgery and my follow up treatment. I was off of my hormone replacement for three and a half weeks and had absolutely no energy. My husband took off from work to take care fo the kids for me. I'm back on my medication and we're still fine-tuning it. I feel 100% better than I did after surgery. :)

Barb-I'd love to hear more about your soapmaking!

Jessica, I can talk soapmaking until everyone has closed their eyes and succumed to sleep, I will welcome the chance to talk to another soap maker! How was your first farmers market? I am envious because I think if I lived in a different area I too would have been selling this weekend. :( that is ok though. E-mail me privately if you want to talk soap (it will save the other moms :)

I too take thyroid replacement drugs (what do we call these?) because my thyroid is underactive. I have a couple of friends who also take them, some because they had to get them removed and others becasue they have an underactive thyroid. I never know if my lack of initiative is just being lazy or thyroid related. I guess I am more apt to go for the former..........but I would love to blame the later.

Had my bookclub at my house today. It was nice to sit with a group of women talking. I do have an issue with one of the husbands (only in my mind) he wants to join us, but I really like the group of WOMEN. I don't think he is particularly a reader as much as he likes the company of us all. :s:





Barb
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I'd be happy to talk soap,books...anything in fact. But top vote goes to *****ing about the men in my life :lol: :lol: !
Can you guys make olive oil soap? My friend bought me a big block on my birthday and it's fantastic.
I don't think it's possible to register a car in joint names here.
About the proposed diet thing...I was wondering if we might all take a look at the recipes pages here and try cooking them together...you know to make it a bit more interesting. I'm an OK cook, not great at baking cakes etc, love spicy food but would be willing to try anything (apart from offal). And besides it would be interesting to see if we all lose weight eating the same things.Can I interest you in trying it? I'm off for a weeks holiday soon, which might put a spanner in the works, but if you guys siggest recipes I could put together some kind of plan using the WW CD I have. We could do points or calorie counting and those of us who need more points could add extra bits.
Happy Sundays......
Geneve

Geneve, Olive oil soap is pretty easy. You just use olive oil for the oils. I usually add some coconut or castor oil to make a better lather. It is commenly called Castile soap. It is very nice and a gentle soap.

I am thinking about the eating/cooking plan. I woudnt' mind trying out some different recipes, however my kids and husband are picky so I might find myself cooking two meals. I am also not very good at following menu plans. That is one thing I always liked about WW I could make my own plan as long as I kept track.

My biggest stumbling block right now is not documenting my food intake and NOT using my Precor! I need to use them as goals.





Barb