Oh **** Ani. I'm sorry. I just tried to call you on the numbers you gave me when I was going to visit in January, but they're not working.

I hope you're ok.

Oh God Ani, I'm so sorry, that's terrible news.

Cancer is an evil disease and it takes far too many people away from their loved ones.

It seems shallow to talk about weight loss after hearing such tragic news but I guess I'll post what I was going to ...

It turns out that I've been using my weight watchers points finder card incorrectly and as a result, I've actually been going way over my points most days when I thought that I was on track. How frustrating. So I'm going to have to do a total overhaul of the way I've been eating and that won't be easy.

I went to the gym yesterday and did 30 minutes of weights followed by a 20 minute run and a very fast paced 20 minute walk.

Today I'm working until 1pm and will then go to the gym and do my circuit based weights programme and then I am meeting up with my ex for a coffee. Not particularly enthused about that but I've been putting it off and postponing on him for a couple of months so I really do have to go!

Hope you're doing alright Ani, once again I'm so sorry about your news. Hope you are coping okay and taking care of your injury too

35.... that is so young... my neighbour just turned 37 on Wednesday (cake excuse) and i can not imagine life without her.... cancer sucks, 5 years old is too young to fully understand cancer and way too young to have no mummy

julia - i've just worked out what i am eating today (not 100% sure what is going to be at reunion) and ihave 10 points left for dinner so they better have sugar free vodka cruisers as they are only one point each..... you said though that you dont use your bonus points so that surely evens out your overestimating food points??? i have had the most trouble still in the afternoons waiting for dinner time, rice cakes though are going to get me through!

Cancer sux. Lost my mum, pop and stepdad to it. It's nasty. Especially sad when the ones left behind are so young. 5 yrs old is little to compehend it all. Though hopefully she is old enough to be able to retain some memory of her mummy (or is it her daddy). Like hugs n fun stuff.

Bunnings sux ani. What do u do? water plants all day? like, how can you work at bunnings and be on light duties? go figure.

Way to go Kel on yr weight loss. Mine still hasn't budged but I am carrying a heck of a lot of fluid at the moment. My face is bloated, my neck, my wrists, feet and stomach. Top it off my migraines are coming back so its sedentry time for me till they ease off. Oh well........ all I can do is keep plodding along.

Good choice for dinner Julia.

Gen? Where are you? did you go out

Lindor???

Kylie that is so sweet - thank you. I've moved house and changed my phone numbers since January.

Thank you to everyone for your kind thoughts. Vonni my cousin was the mother, and it's so sad that a little girl has to grow up without her. It has been a pretty ordinary week, and I've let it be an excuse to eat crap too - not very happy with myself.I've woken up today with a cold/cough thing, and realised that it is crazy to eat so badly when I am under stress and injury. This is the VERY time when I should be really careful with food - to make sure I am getting the best nutrients I can. Not to punish myself for a bad week by eating rubbish.

It's a long weekend in Perth and I have to work today and tomorrow (not sure how I can manage light duties on a busy long weekend) - bloody Bunnings!

But there's no use stressing about something I can't change, so I am going to use it to my advantage, and set myself a goal of walking 8km at work today and drinking 2.5L of water. And as tomorrow is a public holiday I am just going to remind myself I will be getting paid $45/hour to walk around and talk to people .

Im very sorry about your loss ani.. we lost 2 family members yesterday also. Aunt Alice had a fall , need surgery reacted to the drugs and died of heart failure.. Aunt Nell has been sick for a long time.. and we were told over a month ago she had a week to live.. but she held on until the same day we lost alice.. Both are Johns great aunts.. Nell is nans sister and alice her sil .. Alice lived in the same block of units as nan and was her best friend .. Nell lived in england.. a little over a month ago.. Nans other brother in law and sil moved into a nursing home out of her block of units.. so Nan has lost everyone she loves and depends on at home .

been one of those weeks.. me and the kids have had the flu.. and ive payed next to no attantion to what i have been eating..
luckily ive still been doing some sort of exercise and i haven't gained im now 115.7 so a loss of 600 grams this week ..

Today we were all feeling alot better so we spent the day down at the pool ... 5 hours of swiming and playing .. in the water.. i bet that has burned a few rouge calories.. lol

Yesterday was a birthday party at the movies.. we Saw Wall E its a very cute movie.. we really enjoyed it..


anyway im gonna run.. im hungry so cooking dinner early to avoid snack crap.. heres to a better week next week ..

oh amy two in one day! omigosh..... how sad
ani - your determination is awesome, so many people would use injury as an excuse to slack off

i am not 100% pleased with myself, even though i have basically stuck to my points i put on 700 grams this week - so that gives me kick in bum to fix it before thursday weight watchers weigh in...... whoops

Sorry for your loss Amy, that's very sad news

Don't get too discouraged by that gain Kel, it may take a few weeks for your body to get used to your new diet. Just stick with it and you'll get the results you want.

How is your injury Ani? Feeling any better?

I'm back on board with diet today and am determined to succeed. My thinking is that I will just take it one day at a time. I had a breakfast of cereal and trim milk this morning and that was really yummy. Lunch is a ham and salad sandwich and dinner will be macaroni cheese. Snacks will be fruit and cuppa soups.

Will go to the gym too and do weights followed by an aerobics class.

Amy that's really sad - I'm thinking of you .

Kel how often are you weighing yourself? The scales will go up and down on a daily, even hourly, basis and the only one you should take notice of is your 'official' weight watchers weigh-in.

Julia my ribs hurt this morning. They hurt at work yesterday - but what can you do? I just can't believe how busy it was at work yesterday (and will be today) - get a long weekend in Perth and everyone has to go to Bunnings! Why?

Yesterday I ate/drank 1620 calories, walked 8km and drank 2.1L of water - not too bad. Today I would like to try and increase my water because I feel a little bit dehydrated.

Amy thats awful. Love to all who has been affected by the loss.

Ani you're right about scales changing. Most people weigh lightest in the monring but for some stupid reason I usually am lighter about 4 in the afternoon lol.

i am weighing myself on this forum monday mornings and getting weighed officially for weight watchers on thursday mornings and thats it! so a little disheartened by slight gain
BUT didnt stop me eating a 233gram packet of mint m&ms
HOWEVER i have now vowed no chocolate until i look into more about this cocoabean child slavery that i have heard about
so there.

Ani, I am so sorry for your loss! Will you be heading over to Canberra for the funeral? Maybe the 'bereavement leave' could also help by giving you some injury recovery time as well? Although 'bereavement leave' is said to be just for close relatives and some might argue that a cousin is not a close relative, if you show the emotion they tend to back off from arguing the point.

Amy, sorry you were thrown a double whammy too.

I hope the pain of your losses ease for you both soon


I'm not being at all successful with my dieting efforts just now...I am sooo not in the right place mentally! And the fact that I am stressing over Christmas already is not helping!!

I was doing a bit of googling tonight and discovered an equation that gives what is called The Fullness Factor...anyone heard of it?? Basically it shows you how workout which foods will make you feel fuller but with the least calories...did I explain that ok? If you Google 'The Fullness Factor', you'll find where I found out about this (NutritionData).

Anyway, they give the following equation to workout the Fullness Factor (FF) of foods...

FF=MAX(0.5, MIN(5.0, 41.7/CAL^0.7 + 0.05*PR + 6.17E-4*DF^3 - 7.25E-6*TF^3 + 0.617))

where CAL is total Calories per 100g (30 minimum),
PR is grams Protein per 100g (30 maximum),
DF is grams Dietary Fiber per 100g (12 maximum), and
TF is grams total Fat per 100g (50 maximum).

...now I am a long way off being a mathematical genius, so is anyone able to work this out and use it following the nutritional information given on a food product?

I am happy to be told the Fullness Factor is rubbish too if that is what you believe, the thing the caught my interest was using the equation on a random food product that I pulled from the pantry...and I am stuffed if I can work it out!

I have two weeks until my appointment in Perth, I am determined to make these two weeks good in terms of dieting in the hope that I might be able to find some incentive to maintain some control over my food intake while in Perth! And as a reward allow myself to enjoy coffee with Ani!

Lindor that equation looks like complete gobbledegook to me! Anything even slightly mathematical makes my head spin

Kel, why weigh yourself twice a week? Surely once is enough? Make sure you take your measurements too because they will change even when your weight doesn't and it's important to see those changes happen so that you will feel encouraged to keep going.

I had a perfect day yesterday. Stuck to my points religiously and had a great workout at the gym.

Today my goals are the same: stick to my points and have a great workout at the gym.

Hope everyone is doing ok.

Lindor the Fullness Factor isn't rubbish - but I noted with some cynicism that Nutrition Data =have 'trademarked' that equation. They must think they're onto a good thing. I suspect it will become the next buzzword in dieting - the way "low GI" has been for a few years.

Basically it's common sense to people who understand that "calories" have different values in different foods. I'll give you an example: my breakfast bowl is heaped - and I mean HEAPED - to the top by the time I put everything in it. Yes, I put that much food in my belly every morning . It weighs more, is a lot more food, but it has less calories than two eggs on toast.

I think the principle behind it is to try and come up with a diet that is really filling (curbing hunger and snacking) but relatively low in calories. But as for that equation… my maths skills are too basic for it, and I did have a go at working it out .

Looking forward to catching up for that coffee - can't wait!

I had another OK day. I ate 1570 calories, walked 7km - but only drank 1.2L of water - something to work on…

Haha! How far did you get with the equation? I got as far as FF=, after that I was stumped!