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Onya Gen :)
I lost 0.5kg and I'm not going to complain about that. I'm on Day Four of my Winter plateau-buster plan, and hopefully this will start to work for me too. Basically the plan is: • Eat no more than 1650 calories/day • Walk for an hour/day • Drink 2 litres water/day • Write it ALL down I'll do this for a few weeks and see what happens. If I can break through the plateau, and start losing again, I'll adopt the plan for the next three months. I've set myself the goal of getting to 83kg by the end of winter, and made a promise to myself that I will commit to this next three months and work hard to make it happen. How did everyone else go? :) Ani |
Well done Ani, 0.5kg is a great start to your plateau busting!!
My goal this week is to stick to my 1478 calories/day, drink 2550 ml/day (3 of my 850ml water bottles), and exercise at least 30 mins/day. In addition, I have my big scary US nursing exam tomorrow at 0900, so I pledge to drink at least 2 alcoholic drinks at the pub and have a lovely meal to celebrate tomorrow night! :) PS: Where the heck is everyone? Kylie? Leeny? Mary? Vonni? Vanessa? .... Bueller?? |
Yes… where indeed are they all? I know Vonni was going away for a christening, and maybe the confusion about moving the 3FC server has kept a few away.
COME BACK - all of you! Good luck with your exam Gen! I have faith that you'll do well :). Are you going to go and work in the US after this? I had another good day yesterday and reached all my goals. My weight loss plans are much the same today: work towards my goals and keep a positive attitude! My ticker has been stuck for 9 weeks now - I really, really want to be able to move it on Monday. OK - slept in until 7.30am today so I'd better get moving. :) Ani |
Yay it's over - well, it is if I passed! I got the minimum amount of questions, and finished within 45 mins, so either did REALLY well, or REALLY badly! Hopefully the former! Quietly confident, but I'm glad I only have to wait a few days for the results!! Now I've got a uni assignment due in 2 weeks - 3000 words about research ethics.. blah.
I'm so glad I'm going to the pub tonite haha. |
Hi Everyone!
Nope - not dead yet. :P Vonni! I don't understand how this has all blown up in your face??? Sounds like a really sucky situation, hope everything works out and the little priss gets what she deserves (ie get taken down a peg or two). As for mgt - what can you expect? Ani - it's good to hear determination back in your voice - if you were a super hero, we could call you The Plateau Buster...or something...:o I've crept back up to 89kg - that's what happens when you take your eye off the ball. No fear though - I am beginning to refocus. I'm starting off small, with more water, and less crap food. I might even try and get down to the gym again. Kylie |
Hi all.
Christening went well. It was my cousins baby that has taken 16 years, 8 IVF treatments, 2 failed pregnancies (1 natural, 1 IVF) to get here. Once here she had to have 2 heart operations. 1 a 'patch it up' op and the 2nd was a major one when she had gotten strong enough. Basically her plumbing was round the wrong way. Now she is wonderful and strong and healthy. Was great to see a lot of my family I hadn't seen in some years. And they were shocked to see my eldest (17) they hadn't seen her since she was about 11. Even my 27yr old nephew wondered "who's that sitting next to mum?" lol. The weekend went well as far as food goes too. I'm quite proud of myself. I weighed this morning and I am back down to 67.5. So I'm pleased that my gains or stays over the past month or so is perhaps looking better. Well done Ani on yr loss. And Gen I'm sure you have done well. I hope if u DO go to the US and work you will keep in contact with us. Lucky you to only wait a couple of days for the results. I still have 2 weeks to wait. Grrrr! Has anyone heard from Lindor? I went to her profile page and the last post was on our old thread. Getting a little worried about her. Unless her PC has gone cactus? Ging to do groceries now. Put it off last week so I'd have plenty of moola for the Coast.... BUT I ONLY SPENT $230 including $85 fuel. Aren't I good? But i never got anything for mwa :( VONNI |
Are you kidding? Judging by how much I gained last time I went there, I'll need this place more than ever haha!!
Sounds like that bubby was determined to be born hey? PS: Ani, go to Ticker Factory and get one - it doesn't round off the loss or weight, so you can keep moving it along! |
I hadn't realised Ticker Factory didn't round. If they had better graphics I would use them, but I FLOVE the barbell graphic.
I'm having a **** week. I haven't drank water, gone to the gym and have been pigging out. Ugh. |
Gen anyone would think we had a lot of time on our hands :), but I took your advice, and now I might be able to move my ticker more often (as long as it doesn't go UP!).
Did you go out to the pub and have those celebratory bevvies? Did you behave? ;) Kylie and Vonni - good to hear from you both. Well done, Vonni, on your weight! Kylie don't get down… look at where you started with this. You've still LOST weight, even though the last few months have been tough. Renny Sue what's going on? Are you struggling with motivation, or do you have stuff going on that's distracting you? :) Ani |
Morning everyone
I had a 'lightbulb moment' yesterday. I was writing in my journal - a daily meditative thing for me - and decided to pose a question, and see if I could answer it. I've known for a long time that 85-90kg is a big emotional thing for me, and I wanted to know why I was stuck. What I came up with was really revealing, and I feel a little bit liberated today. I woke up this morning feeling like a small weight had lifted off my shoulders - so let's hope this translates into something tangible in my "Ani's winter plateau-buster" :dizzy: Is anyone up for a June challenge? Since it is the beginning of winter, a time where we tend to hibernate and stay indoors to keep warm, I thought a challenge would be a fun way to motivate ourselves. Here it is: Let's move for an hour every day! Half an hour of exercise, and half an hour of non-exercise moving about (could be housework, shopping… anything!). Who's up for it? Now if you want you could set your goals higher or lower - but I thought it would be good if a few of us set some goals for June, and worked towards them together. :) Ani |
Ugh definitely went to the pub.. and couldn't get up for training this morning! Now off to do a 12hr evening shift - that's my exercise for the day!
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I'm up for it.
Does hanging the washing out count? On weekends I probably have an hour of that each day lol. Ok if I set a goal for myself to get motivated to do more housework i'll be right making beds = 20 minutes sweeping or vac whole house = 20minutes mopping = 20 minutes hanging one load washing = 10 minutes cooking dinner = 30 minutes washing up & wiping benches down= 15 minutes Wow if I do this every day thats one hour 55 minutes. But I need to motivate myself to start then finish all at once. I just give up lately. No sooner is it done that I turn around and its a mess again.:mad: (i used to be a neat freak) I love my children and I love my partner - But sometimes I envy those that only have to look after themselves. I am an emotional and physical wreck 6 days out of the week. :dizzy: You know, I even envy my single parent friends. At least the only adult is themselves so they don't have to worry about sharing decisions. Geeze I better not ponder that thought too hard I might start to like the idea. ;) |
Originally Posted by : I think I also got my answer when I woke up and found my little friend had decided to visit! Sadly, as I have PCOS its quite difficult for me to gauge when I have them (its a celebration because I've had them two months apart. Haven't had that happen in a LONG time) Hopefully once they piss off I'll get my motivation back. If I don't I'll just have to keep forcing it. TMI Alert! I don't know if this is to do with my diet or something else, but did anyone else find after they were doing their diet they *cough* lost control of their bladder? On both Friday and Saturday nights I lost complete control, actully ****ting my pants at a workmate's house (which thankfully she's been wonderful about, but its still so, so embarrasing) and Saturday I managed to get to the loo in time. Only connection is the fact I was eating out and drinking. I'm going to do a test run on the weekend and drink but on my normal diet. If it happens again I'll be going to the doctors the following day. I also had a full (low fat) pizza for dinner tonight. Blamed it on my periods but I'll be putting on this week for sure. |
Hey Vonni
Yes, ALL your domestics count - and I'm glad you're in! We're starting tomorrow, and I think it will be fun. I had a giggle about your domestic woes and the frustration of being a reformed neat freak. I cannot even begin to imagine what it would be like having all those kids, and trying to keep order. It's bad enough with five cats and no partner ;) RennySue I have no idea what to suggest to you. I think it would be worth having a chat to a doctor, because it could be as simple as needing to strengthen your pelvic floor muscles, or as complex as having a problem with your bladder. It's best to get it checked out, I think. My plateau-buster is going well this week. I'm being very disciplined, and I'm enjoying it (which is just as important). Yesterday I cooked up a huge pot of vegetable soup and then froze it in eight small lots. I do that often - very yummy for those cold winter nights when I can't be stuffed cooking. OK - today I'll go for my walk, stick to my calories, drink my water - and then tonight I'm going to a friend's place for dinner. That's always a bit scary, because you can't control the calories when someone else is cooking, but I'll just work around it. Not going to spoil a fun social night by getting paranoid about an extra few calories! Hope everyone is travelling OK. :) Ani |
Originally Posted by PerthChick: Hey Renny Sue. Thats a problem. I've had a weak bladder for a while. I squeeze my muscles regularly to help. I haven't actually wet myself, but come pretty close. When I gotta go I gotta go NOW. No ifs buts or 'it's not break time yet'. Please don't think me too forward here (well I guess I am being but plz don't be offended) Have you thought about using benwa balls or Kegal exercises? Check with yr Doc as Ani says, to rule out any infections or damage. I've pasted a bit of info about kegal below. "The aim of Kegel exercises is to restore muscle tone and strength to the pubococcygeus muscles in order to prevent or reduce pelvic floor problems and to increase sexual gratification. Kegel exercises are said to be good for treating vaginal prolapse and preventing uterine prolapse in women. Kegel exercises may be beneficial in treating urinary incontinence in both men and women. Kegel exercises are also known as pelvic floor exercises, or simply Kegels. Although Dr. Kegel contemporized and popularized this practice, it is by no means new. The Taoists of ancient China developed a number of different sexual practices to strengthen and tone these same muscles for health, longevity, sexual gratification, and spiritual development. Directly akin to the Kegel exercise is the Taoist practice of the Deer Exercise. The Yogis of India also had a similar practice in Hatha Yoga known as Aswini Mudra (the horse gesture) which is taught and practised to this day The pubococcygeal muscles are those used to stop the flow of urine during urination, and they may be easily identified in this way. However, after the muscle has been identified, practicing Kegel exercises during urination is not recommended, as this could lead to a urinary tract infection" Anyhow - must run off and do some of that dreaded housework. So far I've hung 2 loads of washing and swept my floors. Going to organise dinner in a minute (working tonight) then hang another load and get some off. Bye Vonni |
Renny Sue, did you mean peeing or pooping? I see you wrote bladder, but then I thought you wrote "****ting" your pants. If the former, a huge percentage of women have incontinence issues - DEFINITELY talk to your doctor, as it can be a physiological thing, such as a urinary tract infection, cystitis etc. If the latter, it's likely your diet. Eating more fresh fruit and veggies gives you stacks of fibre, the results of which can be pooping for your country. I know if I go over my fibre goal I have to stick close to a toilet for a day! If this is the case, you can just decrease your fibre until you find the level that suits you.
I will say though that sometimes you have to grin and bear it, until your body adapts to the new intake. When I started the lifestyle change and took up drinking gallons of water, I was peeing every 5 mins literally! Lasted about a month, then my kidneys adjusted and I was able to handle my fluids again! Hah. PS: Don't be embarrassed, trust me I'm a nurse ;) |
augigi it was the latter. I've been eating a lot more vegies and fruit, but surely that wouldn't account for me losing control THAT badly?
I've never had issues with bladder control. I'm a world champion holder! Courtsey of having the world's tiniest bladder. |
Woohoo - I passed my exam and my USA RN license has been issued by the Vermont nursing board already!!!!!!!!!! :carrot: :carrot:
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Awesome news Gen! So what does this mean? Are you planning to go to the US soon and work?
Hope you're not on your way to the pub again to celebrate with an overindulgence of the bevvie variety ;) RennySue I'm not the nurse here - she appears to be away with the fairies at the moment - but it could be fibre-related. Are you eating a lot more fruit and veges? There are some additives in food that can make you 'need to go now', and as an example if you have too much of some chewing gums, that will do it. Too much Mylanta does it sometimes, as do a lot of things. And a virus could do it too. Maybe when Gen pops back down from cloud nine she'll have some better advice for you. :) Ani |
Hi
Can I join in the Aussie chat?? And can I join the June Challenge??? Have you guys had challenges before?? I already have the challenge of not having any idea what to do with my time now I have a little baby and am at home full time, Dr Phil and Oprah only fill 2 hours of the day.... I dont know if I feel like joining in the nursing support group as it is too baby related... i think i'd like to talk something other than baby! (she is awesome though just ask me...) My name is Kel and I live in Brisbane. |
Ah ok, I've recovered now. Thanks Ani :) Still have to transfer the license to the state I want to work in, and then get the employer to petition me and get my visa, so I'd say it'll still be 3-6 months till I get there. But I will step up my plans to get rid of stuff and move back to my parents' place in Melbourne. I'd like to spend some time at "home" with my family and friends before I go, if I plan to go.
Renny Sue, if I were you I would go and get some lomotil, or buy some panadeine (codeine is a constipating agent), so you don't have accidents until you sort out your diet. I would say your diet can definitely be responsible. There are a few things, such as increased fat intake along with the usual suspect of fibre. Increasing your fibre and water intake bulks up the stool but also encourages the movement through the bowel... ending in the pleasant explosive diarrhoea... eek. Do you track your input of fibre? Maybe try going to calorieking if not and entering your diet to see what kind of intake you're getting. Doing that will also give you an idea if you're getting the levels of nutrients you need. Hi Kel! Sorry you walked into a conversation about crap, so I'm impressed you didn't run the other way :) Welcome to the thread! Your bubby is GORGEOUS! Can't believe you have the energy to worry about weight loss when you have such a little bub - good on you! |
Originally Posted by augigi: LMAO!!! Here Here Gen. What a conversation to waltz into. Welcome Kel to 3FC Aussies.... I have a little one too (14 mths) and I don't belong to any mothers groups on or offline. Purely for the fact that HELLOOOOO Mums are people too. Not just a production manager! I agree with Ani and Gen Rennysue about yr diet. As Ani asked, have you been chewing gum? And also a lot of sweetners and artificially sweetened foods (such as extra) have sorbitol which can have a laxative effect. So do a lot of liquid medications. My little one had a little too much baby panadol in her recent stint in hospital and it was running out of the poor little mite just like rapids. I also get cramps and need to "go" if I chew to much gum or drink to much coffee. Cigarettes do it to some people to. I know it sounds weird but.... Whats normal these days? No one is normal as everyone is so different normal is impossible to define. You just will end up figuring out yr diet enough to know whats right for you. Blast gotta go, baby had bad night and is whinging now (supposed to be sleeping) Vonni xx |
Hey Kel - WELCOME! It's great to have you here :). Congratulations on the weight you have already lost too.
Absolutely join our challenge. It starts today, and sofar it's you, Vonni and me. All we have to do is keep accountable to each other for how much we "move" every day. Some of it is structured exercise, and some is the things we do every day. So for me, I plan to walk for an hour today, and do 30 minutes worth of domestics. I also need to go to the stupidmarket. And even though I have a LOT of writing to do over the weekend (and a major deadline on Monday), I have finally bitten the bullet and advertised for someone to share this house with me - I'm really struggling paying $300/week rent, so even though I really don't want to, I'll see who responds to my ad. That also means I have to clean and unpack the spare room… so there goes a few more calories. Anyone else want to join our June challenge? :) Ani |
Sofar today Ani I have sat on my bum for an hour..... Does that count? Hmm??:^:
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VONNIE! It only counts if you're doing your kegels … and LOTS of them :p
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I would be in it, but I'm going to be away for a lot of June, so I might not be doing as much exercise as usual. I'll have separation anxiety from my PT haha.
I finally went and got a quote for the damage I did my car last year - I got home from overseas, half jetlagged and asleep, and tried to unpark in my parking garage...oopsies, knocked off a side mirror and scraped the guard/door. Quote: >$2000!!! Son of a whore! Can't believe how expensive it is. Sorry, that's my favourite quote today. Also now have to tell insurance co. that it happened recently, as opposed to almost a year ago... how to explain the rust on the door...? Such a pain, I have put it off for ages but I have to get it done now because my rego needs renewing and car isn't roadworthy without a side mirror. |
Where are you off to? And what plans are in place for keeping your weight loss going while you're out of your routine? Hmmm?
I have a similar issue with my car. When my VW Golf was three MONTHS old, a kid ran into it on their pushbike (the car was parked at the time). I too need to make an insurance claim, while convincing the insurance company that the rust is 'recent' :). I'm SO not in the mood for working today. What is it about deadlines that makes me suddenly feel compelled to spring clean? |
Lindor? Liiiindor...? Where is she?
I love the honesty of this board. I reckon it's pretty cool that we can spill our guts and there's a ton of support there for you! I am thinking about changing my degree, from business to secondary school teaching. I have always loved teaching (was an instructor in Army Cadets for about 4 years), and bf reckons I'm 'good at English', so *shrug*, it sounds pretty good actually. I would love to be a combination of my english teacher and Social Studies teacher. Those two were the coolest people ever! well, be back soon |
Oh did I forget to mention that I'm an undercover insurance investigator?
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hehe sorry guys couldnt resist. I had to make a claim last year just after I had bub... Was in Dr surgery for blood pressure check and we heard a scrape and a bang... Someones tailer had come off their car and hit my parked car. Turned out I knew the person (small town) and it was their insurance that paid out, but I 'neglected' to tell the company that they never had a safety chain on trailer. And were speeding through roundabout that made it swing off on exiting. Oops. But all good now. Oh, and my blood pressure? PERFECT! Dr reckons I thrive on stress :yoga: My pressure had been for 2 weeks 165/109 give or take a couple points. Vonni PS Ani my kegals are always happening. I even do them at work when I can't get anyone to cover me a loo dash break. :p |
You're a cheeky bugger Vonni :p .
Now - did you do any exercise today? |
I did! Had a PT session and did 20 on the treadmill.
I don't chew gum, its 'now allowed' on the SureSlim diet. Would sweetners in Diet drinks have done it? Maybe my grandfather was right...... |
Sweeteners in diet drinks could definitely do it. How many do you drink every day?
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thanks for the welcome.....
i had suckiest day ever! I have been looking forward to Mummy and Me yoga since before I was a freakin Mummy, since at least when I was 14wks pregnant doing 2nd trimester yoga.... and my baby (the sweetypie) decides to scream worse than she EVER has in public JUST as we are about to start the mummy yoga bit and then sleep like a freakin angel just as we got to the baby yoga bit! silly baby... so for my first day of june for exercise i got maybe a couple of minutes of relaxation at yoga.... hmmm does that count! how about i use yesterdays exercise instead! I went for a walk with my 3 border collies for about 40mins. you know how you have those days when you just could cry!? well i did! and I did! oh and dont worry about crap conversation, i am a mum now all we talk about is the bowel movements! my baby is a different kind of normal to "most" babies she only poos once a week or so, i think it is awesome but most people think she is weird, i dont have to clean poey bum so i dont care what they say... but Renny I have a similar problem to you... and i had never thought of it to be to do with good different food i am eating, i have been blaming the once a fortnight treat fatty food i have.... my brother is a doctor and said that it could be greasy food that does it to me. (i just realised i said my brother was a doctor, he is a scientist studying to be a doctor so i treat him like one and email him with health concerns) (he is EXACTLY like House really smart but a pri*ck really, used to decide i had nothing of importance to say so used to ban me from talking....) do you get cramps before?? i get goosebumps and thats when i know i am going to get really really bad cramps but i have not had an accident....... i was also thinking mine was to do with caesarian healing too all my insides have not worked they way they should since Jemima was born... the weightloss on my ticker is kinda cheating, as most of it was lost in the first 10 days after having jemima and a lot of it was jemima or support network for baby and probably fluid too as i was retaining a lot at end of pregnancy so day 10 i had lost 9.5 but i guess i have done ok loosing another 3 since then i have a friend who has just emailed me to say that she will do weight watchers if i will.... i have never been to the meetings before i have always just stolen my mums books and did it myself.... i have been more committed the last couple of weeks and been beating myself up if i dont lose 500 grams a week.... i have worked out i will be at 74kg by end of january if i loose half a kilo a week which makes me see that slow and steady will get there. when i get to 74 i will be 'happy' but i will still want to get to lower, i am just using 74kg as a weight as that is where i was when i got pregnant (yep i put on 30kg when i was pregnant) before i got pregnant i did the optifast diet and lost 15kg between end of feb and end of april, not allowed to do optifast or tony ferguson while breastfeeding.... there are lots of things you cant do while breastfeeding,. sorry for such a long post, i had such a crappy day today you'd think i'd just want to go to bed and wake up tomorrow as jemima was cute as pie this arvo so should probably be fine tomorrow.... anyway looks like i just wanted to 'chat' have a great weekend tomorrows exercise will be walking around ikea with a 6ish kilo baby attached to me, i'll make sure to do some lunges while she is in the pouch surely that has got to count! (maybe i'll walk the dogs in the arvo or something too) what kind of exercise does everyone else do? |
Originally Posted by PerthChick: i was drinking a heap of diet softdrinks every day but have found that i am a heap better now that i only have one for lunch and one for dinner and make sure to have 2L water everyday..... so i reckon you gotta be right and fake sugar in softdrink CANT be good for you..... i make myself have an apple for afternoon tea now when i used to think it would be 'better' to have a diet softdrink (no points vs 1 point) but i KNOW how good water is for weightloss so have been trying to grap a bottle of water rather than a can out of the fridge.... |
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LOL don't worry about it Kel.
For exercise, I share a PT with 3 people I met online, and we meet three mornings a week for an hour. As well, I have a hired treadmill which I use, I ride my bike, and I go swimming once a week. Have gone from not swimming for about 10+ years to swimming 1.5km after 6 weeks! Ani, I'm off to my niece's engagement party in Brisbane next weekend, then off to parents in Melbourne for 2 weeks, to see my brother's new bubby. Also going to the snow for a couple of days while I'm in Melbourne with an old uni friend - only been skiing once, so that'll be amusing! Exercise wise, Mum has an exercise bike, and they live one block from the beach, so I usually walk/jog by the water while I'm there.. love the sea. I'll have my HRM watch, so I can track what I'm exercising! Best way to rule out things giving you a problem with your diet is to TRACK what you're eating, and when you're having issues. You can then go back and check out what you ate and when. |
Hi People, Yes, I am still here lurking around. My gosh what a topic, been there done that, had a tummy bug, thought it was wind, but it had humps. lol. It happens!
Gen, congrats on passing your exam, all that hard work paid off. My DIL is a nurse, she looks after prem babies, my son is an IT manager, and they spent 3 years in Edmonton, Canada, had the time of their lives. It opens up so many things you can do in your life. Hello Kel, Well done on your weight loss, your bub looks lovely, cheeky little thing has her tongue poking out already. A tip to you ladies, try going out and sanding around the rust, to make it look like you were going to work on the car yourself. Done this many times on my taxi’s, seems to work as far as the panel beaters are concerned. Last year I had some dum *** lady do a U turn on me and nearly wrote me off the road. She had no insurance, and it has cost her about $9,000 to pay back my company. Just goes to show while we may ***** about having to pay, it is worth it. As for the exercise, gave myself a good talking to this week and for the first time in many years, ran a whole 10mins on the tread mill. :woohoo: Just told myself I was a lazy old so & so, ( can’t repeat what I said) and I could do better. Weight has not moved but Hubby gave me a very nice compliment. If this is too rude please don’t read. He said that I had toned up so much and felt so nice. He almost felt like he was being unfaithful. There are times when he says the darnest things. REALLY MADE MY WEEK!!!! So for my exercise challenge I will be working on upping my run to 15mins.:tread: Well, have to run , Hubby is awake making eggs on toast for breakfast ,yum. The only day I change my breakfast, from weety bix and fruit. BE GOOD OR AS GOOD AS YOU CAN BE!!! Mary |
Kel the only exercise I do is to walk for an hour every morning. A couple of nights a week I get my resistance bands out and do a few exercises with them - as well as some situps… but that's it. I decided that I needed to find something that would fit into my lifestyle, and which I can keep doing for years. Walking is it for me.
MaryL good to see you. Gen it sounds like you've got a busy busy month. I haven't been to the snow in years (in fact the last time was ten years ago in Prague and Stockholm) - I can't ski for nuts but I'm a hoon on a toboggan :). I walked for an hour yesterday, and ran around a shopping centre for another hour - so I met my goals. Today I'll go for my walk, then I'm going to get the vacuum cleaner and mop out. That will get me to today's goals, and this afternoon I'm going to clean out the spare room in case anyone answers my 'share accommodation' ad in tomorrow's paper. :) Ani |
I go to the gym 4/5 times a week. Cardio and weights and I love it! I am single with no committments though.
Both nights were fatty foods (Italian than steak) I got cramps right before I lost it. (no matter what I couldn't hold it. I was fine till I got out of the car and started walking towards mine. Than it was horrible)Sat I begged at the servo to use their staff toilets. |
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