Jasmine, congrats on your lb. loss. You're gonna be a goal soon! And thanks for all the info on oils. I had a question re:safflower oil. High oleic safflower and sunflower oils, produced from hybrid plants, have a composition similar to olive oil, namely, high amounts of oleic acid and only small amounts of polyunsaturated fatty acids and, thus, are more stable than traditional varieties. However, it is difficult to find truly cold-pressed versions of these oils. I only use extra virgin olive oil (cold pressed) and the Hollywood safflower oil, which is expeller pressed. Hollywood doesn't use any chemical solvents. Do you think this oil fits the quote above as being a truly cold-pressed oil? Thanks for your input.

Welcome and hi neighbor Marble. I live in PA! Ben and Jerrys tastes best on the boardwalk, doesn't it? ;)

Jo

Well this is my second post tonight, I went back to check something and lost the first, oh that makes me angry!. This one will be shorter.

Hi all, Congrats to the loser's for there weight loss, thanks everyone for all the information you are providing, recipes, links and so much more. Jasmine I don't know where you find the time, you do great with info. Martiniforme, how is the kitty, I had both mine done, I think it is almost as hard on us as them. Re: Breaking up the exercise, I have read numerous times, its great to even say do 10 mins. 4 times a day. The cooking oils, I think I saw that show on Oprah, I guess I am old fashioned, the first thing I reach for is Pam, I know, I know, I have to try and do better. I have been using the crock pot the last couple days, first for stew, (potatoes on the side, mashed), the made chili yesterday, my own version as I was short of a few ingredients. Have not had any, still not feeling great and that brings me to exercise, which I have not done either in a few days.

Went to see the knee doc. today, bottom line, need a replacement, he says come back in six months and you have to lose weight, how much I ask (stupid question) he says 50 lbs, try water aerobics (man I HATE putting on a bathing suit), but guess I might try it. All depends on what I hear about my arm tomorrow and when they are going to operate. I could go back in six months and look the same, you can't get in water with a brace or cast on your arm.

More news, my daughter informed us she is thinking of getting married, down South, probably in the begin. of Dec. this year. I want to be alot slimmer for that as well. Its a bummer when the body parts reak havoc on your life.

Tonight we had a guy come for the second time to measure for windows, so I say to my husband, "well what do you want to do" (we were trying to get a cheaper price as it was winter and we thought they would be looking for business), anyhow hubby says "we might as well go ahead and get them", I just about fell over, he usually says, "we will think about it", the guy said okay I need a third down now and the rest when they are done. My husband said we will get it to you tomorrow, I'm flipping, we don't have it, he just came up here a half hour ago and asked me how we were going to pay him, I just said I don't know, you come up with something. I thought if we were not going to get a good price, we would wait, or if we did get a good one, order them for June or so, at least give us time to try and get some money put away. We can always cancel, right! Only this guy is suppose to be doing us a favour, through another friend. I know very confusing.

Sorry for all the blabing tonight, I am wound up, about my arm and the windows.
Weight today was 231, you are right, I can weight myself everyday but so many variables are in that. Thanks

So much for short, you poor ladies, my apoligies (sp) over tired!
Have a good one today.
Sharon

hi conuke! jasmine congrats on your loss
i refuse to weigh again until i get my other scale which should be this weekend or monday

where is hunbe?

Sharon, my mom had a knee replacement a few years back (she was around 75 at the time). She has horrible rheumatoid arthritis (RA) and kept getting bursar (SP?) cysts from her knees that caused awful, hobbling pain. The knee surgery was a success and that leg doesn't bother her anymore. Good luck w/it all!

We also need to replace our windows. Our house is only 8 years old, new construction but the windows they use are just complete crap. I didn't know they made anything so poor in quality. We just replaced our sliding back door w/a Pella. WONDERFUL!!!!!! No frost or even condensation on the inside of the door and it's in our breakfast room which in on cement. The room as always been cold and this is the first time ever it's felt like the rest of the house. Even helped w/sound in that room. The guy who installed the door (Lowes) said that most people can't afford to replace all the windows in their house all at once because of cost. He said just do a few at a time and over a several years it will be done. We're thinking about starting w/the downstairs front windows (5 total) in the spring. We opened a Lowe's credit card cause they had a 1 year finance free option. We just divide the cost by the time and pay off that much each month. We also took advantage of similar offers to purchase hardwood flooring and an oriental rug. Eventually they'll be paid off!!

Just got done 3 good miles on the TM. Anyone ever notice that when they do any type of strength training (weights, resistance bands, weight machines, etc) that the scale seems to go up a lb. or two the next day? What up with that?

Jo

Jo - water speeds to the muscles to help heal and rebuild. I run long distance and after a really long run I can be up as much as 6 lbs the next day

hmmm, I just got new windows too, replaced the entire kitchen and french doors on the back and a new Anderson patio door.....they are great, the house feels about 15 degrees warmer. my old windows were AWFUL, talk about condensation, ice build-up, OY!

worked out this morning managed 23 mins. of HARD cardio (80% HR and a good sweat) then did chest/biceps. I'm on day #16 of consistent exercise and I feel so much better than when i don't exercise. I hope to get to 3 hours this week, that's my first goal. it seems that the old muscles really do have some memory left in them.....

Ennay, thanks for the info! I figured as much but it's nice to know for sure. Think I'll stay off the scale the day after strength stuff.

Jo

i lost another 3lbs but i cant get excited because my digital scale jumps around so much but i did get on it 2x
i also worked out but my eating was not the best
SD Gal-sorry your day went bad hopefully tomorrow wil be better

Well, I just got back from walking the dog and did 2.75 miles on the TM this a.m. (ran out of time :( ) Foodwise I've been doing pretty well. I did have one 2,000 calorie day on Wed but other than that I'm pretty much hitting the 1,500 calories a day mark. I have no energy this week. I have a cold; nothing bad but I guess it's just zapping my energy. Tomorrow is weigh-in day and I am hoping the scale is down. I don't feel like it is, but that could just be my sluggish, spud-like attitude this week. I woke up at 1a.m. last night cold and my stomach was growling loudly! :eek: My feet were freezing cold even though I had on socks and sleep under a mountain of blankets. I actually had to get up and ate 4 pretzels to shut my stomach up. Cripes, I can't even get away from it all even when I sleep! ;)

SD Gal -- I hear you about wanting bad food. I was reading another thread yesterday and someone was doing their utmost to resist the brownies in the cafeteria at their work. Now all I've been thinking about since I read this is brownies. Actually, brownie batter cause I don't need to bake them; I like the batter better than the brownies! :lol: Baker's one bowl brownies are just rolling around in my head. Tomorrow is my weigh-in day and I'm afraid that if that scale doesn't go down I'll give in to a brownie batter binge. Might be that TOM is probably on it's way too! (Took me awhile to figure out what TOM meant. I kept wondering how everyone knew this Tom guy. How duh can I be? :rolleyes: :lol: ). I like Lean Cuisine stuff too. Have you tried their spinach/mushroom pizza and paninni sandwiches? Very yummy. Hope today is going better for ya! :hug:

Mia, I have a digital scale too. If I lean too far forwards or backwards the numbers can shift. Also, if it bops back and forth between two numbers it means that it's at the half lb. mark. Hope your loss is true!

Hope everyone else is doing well!

Jo

About the info for whoever asked I usually hit google when i want to know something. I have read alot on mercolas site and westonprice. SO I do like reading their info.

Anyhow. I just skimmed over the post. Hope everyone is doing well and losing. I wanted to jump on here and ask for those of you who pray to please be praying for us. Just found out last nite that my 14 year old daughter is cutting herself. Yeah. We have removed all sharp objects and have gone thru her anime collection and it seems alot of it is not so innocent. (no porn) but extremely violent stuff!!! She had asked me fo a subscription to shonenjump and it seemed innocent enough but the stuff is full of terrible stuff! Even the few pages I went thru were like people severed and etc. I don't really feel like going into detail but basically I took authority over this and prayed and Joey and I went thru her room last nite getting rid of ALOT of stuff!! It seems during x~mas her reclusiveness hit a plateau more than usual and I figured it was due to being subjected to her dad for his once a year visit. I am sure that had to do with it etc but this evil spirit attacking her was also feeding off all this crap. Even found out she has been having terrible nitemares of peoples flesh falling off etc. That her "JEssie" doll she has had since 6 she caught it walking one nite!! It's in the trash now!

We are trying to handle this delicately and explaining things but no matter what she could be angry. She has been wanting to do homeschool for two years and because we are getting some aid have not been able to(I don't think they allow it) but we have made the decision that we are going to have to. She absolutely HATES going to school. (She also has a weight problem I have been trying to help her with w/out "focusing" on it if ya know what I mean. She was 304 and is now down to 287. I weigh her maybe once a month) Anyhow we feel maybe now is the time for her to be here with me. Eat the healthier foods at home cause the free lunch and breakfast at school is a bunch of crap and half the times she don't eat the breakfast. (We actually want to eventually get to the point where they all eat at home or are sent stuff from home.) I have tried to encourage her with exercise and doing it with her in the past but she was being really bad about it. I explained to her if this is what she really wants then we will do it but she has to keep her grades up, that she is going to have to walk with me 40 minutes -1 hour 5 days a week for "p.e." etc. She is all for it and even went with me today for 40 minutes. We have an apt on monday to meet with the home study program. *sigh* Alot going on but I know God is in control and every day I pray for me to be the mom and wife I am supposed to be and Joet the dad and hubby etc. Yesterday I had also prayed for him to show us if there were any problems in our family to show us and to help us etc and yesterday I stayed home and went on a huge cleaning spree. I normally don't go in her stuff at all let alone her room but went looking for a handkerchief to wear and came across one of our huge kitchen knives and stab marks in the wall. Had her come out to the garage later to talk about that and seen a slash on her arm and another one! Thank God she was open to talking with us etc.

I kept it cool and started praying and wondering what was going on I knew there were little to no outside influences so it had to be coming from inside and things she was doing and went into her room with Joe to look around, etc. Started looking thru all the anime stuff and seen how violent and demonic it is. Got rid of it!

She is in good spirits today. Arrrggghhhh

jasmine i sorry to hear that about your daughter i guess i have those teenage years to look forward to:?:

well i worked out today im getting the hang of that but my eating still sucks

Hi everyone! Jasmine, I will pray for you and her, we had a hard time with our daughter, mainly because of her dad and there relationship and non relationship, she had depression really bad and refused to see a doc. I did get her help, but half the time she would not show up, or even if I drove her watched her go in, she would take off again, then meet me when it was time to go home. Girls I think at times can be more difficult then guys. At least she is talking to you, that is a real biggie, I know with your guidance and help with schooling and food and exercise, she will do well. It is such a terrifying (SP) time for you and hubby. I believe with Gods strength, you will get thru this. You have to be strong and strict with her, maybe tell her it will be on a trial basis, to see how she does. A little fear goes a long way. And lots of love does too, which I am sure she already gets, but she has to realize that herself.

I went about my arm yesterday, seem's the operation I really did not want is the only one that will give me hopefully, full motion and use of my arm. He is booking it, but it maybe a couple of months, I was hoping sooner, as I want to get it over and healed before the summer. Healing times is 3 to 6 mths.
Thanks for the info on your mom's knee operation. It is good to hear the positives.

Spent last night at the hospital with Dad, his back pain got so bad he could not stand it. At least they did X-rays and we know nothing is broken, they gave him a pain shot with a muscle relaxer in it and he is on advil at home today. That only took seven hours to get done. But better he is doing good, than in terrible pain.

Thanks also ladies for your input about windows. Still have not figured out where I will borrow that from, am trying to get it on one of the lower interest cards for a certain period of time. Fun wow!

I did not get decent food in yesterday or today. Will try and do better tomorrow. No exercise yesterday, but about 50-60 mins. floor today.
Take care everyone, remember Jasmine we are here for you!
Sharon

Jasmine, I did not find out that my daughter was taking off, till she was well into adulthood. She is now a Child and Youth Worker, helping kids in all kinds of situations from 0 to 17, she works for a Crisis Centre and often goes out to see parents and kids, to help them with idea's, what is available in the area for help, she always talks one on one with the parents and kids to see each point of view. She can sometimes get more out of the kids talking this way. Not that I don't think your doing a good job Jasmine. But I would never of thought this girl of mine would choose this as a career.

Jasmine, so sorry to hear about your daughter. :hug: I just saw something on a program this week about a school for the troubled/bad kids that they stopped using the government funded food (basically all crap) and do all the cooking themselves, fresh fruits/veggies/ good protein (I think no meat), no soda or candy machines in the building. Amazingly these kids are all doing much much better in behavior and school work. And the cost was the same as all the crap the government says is good for you. What you eat absolutely affects your behavior. My kids almost never, ever buy their lunch at school. Oldest once in a while (when I run out of bread!), the two younger ones never. Also, does your daughter have a computer in her room? Sorry, but that's a huge no-no in my book. My kids complain that all their friends have computers and cell phones and tvs and stuff in their rooms. For one, they don't need it in their rooms and the internet is like opening your door and letting the whole world in -- the good, the bad and the ugly. And these kid's just don't have the skills to be able to sort out the difference. Adults can, but kids are just kids. Our computer is in our living room. I won't even put it in the basement; out of parent's sight is trouble. I hope you can work things out for your family. I'll say a pray for you and your family.

Well, the scale actually did go down 1 lb. from last week. I'm very pleased! :woohoo: Just got done 25 minutes on the total gym and am off to walk the doggie.

SD - I never did give into the brownie batter temptation. If today hadn't been weigh-in day for me I might have; but the urge has passed (at least for now! ;)). Hope everyone else is doing well!

Jo

Jasmine: Congrats on the loss!! You are sooo close! And I am sooo excited for you! YEAH YEAH YEAH!


Marbleflys: Don't be fooled! I'm not good at dieting. I will do good for about a week, then have a slipup. The only difference between my dieting now and my dieting before 3FC, is that I have realized the a slipup is not the end of the world. For example, if in the afternoon before my afternoon snack, I eat horribly, then I just won't have my planned afternoon snack, I have dinner, but won't eat my evening snack. And then next day I just keep on with my planned diet for the day. Even if you aren't dieting, I would still keep an eye on the nutritional information. I've been noticing that a lot of healthy packaged items are sometimes really high in calories, and although you are only eating an average amount, and it's healthy, it could still be causing you to gain weight because your calories in are higher than your calories out.

Mimi: I've been growing my hair for almost 4 years, and it's still only halfway down my back, even when I skip a month of a hair cut. Many times I've been tempted to "cut my losses," but I always feel differently the next day. I just can't let it go! Haha. I just love the option to have more styles, even if most days I just put it in a pony tail :lol:. And I remember when I worked at NETELLER (www.neteller.com), and everything seemed that it was ALWAYS down! It was sooo frusterating. Grr!

Ennay: Welcome back! I was just wondering the other day where you were at, I hadn't seen you in a while :)

Sharon: Cabouche is doing well. He's healing very fast, and he's not even mad at me! lol. He was trying to knead me the day he came home (1 day after the operation) and his poor little paw was just shaking. And he would try to jump, and his little legs were giving out on him, so I just carried him everywhere and babied him hehe. And I figure as long as I have my 45 minute workout where my heart rate is in the zone, then really the extra 20 minutes, although not as much of an impact, is still something :D. And I use Pam. But I use the extra virgin olive oil Pam. And eep on the windows. Did everything work out?

Mia: She posted a couple days ago, but has been busy with finals etc.

Jasmine: I am really sorry to hear about the troubles on the homefront.
I would like to offer you some advice if you're willing to hear it.

I'm 23 years old. I remember what it was like being 16.
I don't share this with many people. But I love you girls and I trust you girls with everything.
I was also a cutter. I used to use razorblades, safety pins, knives, whatever I could get my hands on.
What I would like to share with you is some insight in to my own mentality at that time, and my mentality through the healing process, and what I needed from my dad (and unfortunately never got).
I felt so alone, so depressed. The only word to this day is to describe myself as "dead inside." I would hurt so bad, but at the same time, I would feel like I was numb and unfeeling. I would use various tactics to try and "call out" for help to my father. And he just never got it. It seemed to me at the time that he was oblivious to me and my problems. I didn't realize until I was older and healing that I wasn't being fair to him. I was making him be a mind reader, which he was not.
I was very depressed. I used to sit in my rocking chair in front of my bedroom window and just cry. That was my release when I was 14. Around the time I turned 16, I couldn't even cry anymore. The tears would JUST not come, so I just started scratching my skin with a safety pin to see if I could feel it, and it stemmed from there.
I tried to see my school counsellor, but my dad didn't like me doing that because she was a feminist, and my dad was in a life long battle with feminists (being a single father, and having his own issues). So I wasn't allowed to see her anymore. I was so angry. You'd never guess me to be the type if you knew me when I was younger. I was quiet, shy until people got to know me, an academic, I loved to read, great grades (GPA 3.65), Principle's Honour Roll, that sort of thing.
If I can give you ANY advice, it will be this.
I would turn your focus from the violent images (teens know better, and most are able to distinguish between what is real and what is not real), and start focusing on what's going on inside her head. Sit down, write out all the questions you want to ask, and make sure to ask EVERYTHING. Get her in to see a counselor or a psychiatrist. THIS IS KEY! I wasn't able to start dealing with my emotions until I was an adult, and started seeing a psychiatrist. With all the physical/mental/sexual abuse I received (not from my father, but from other family members), I had ALOT of issues to work out. Children are growing up mentally younger and younger every day, and she may not know how to deal with the things going on inside of her.
Also, having been an overweight child, my dad would always be honest with me. If I asked him if he was fat, he would say I wasn't fat, but I could stand to lose a couple pounds for health reasons. I keep thinking of how I would feel if my mother asked me to stand on a scale once a month. Make sure she's okay with this. If not, I would just let the doctor weigh her during her checkups. At her young age, just focusing on exercise and eating healthy is good without all the hangups of losing weight combined with societies views on what women should look like/act like. I am not trying to criticize you, just telling you how I would feel if my parents did that to me.
So the things I need to stress are:
- COUNSELOR!!
- More communication with all the questions parents don't ask
- Focus on self esteem, improving it, always encouraging and complimenting
- Focus on getting healthy, less on body image
- Make sure she knows that SHE IS NOT A BAD PERSON for what she is doing. There is probably a lot of guilt attached to you finding out what she's doing. That she may have let you down in some way. And a lot of relief at the same time because she doesn't have to hide it anymore.
- If you guys are firm believers in religions, that could be her anchoring point, where she can place her faith that she will be alright.

My heart really goes out to you guys. Get knowledge, and get it fast. Talk to people, do some internet surfing. Get the facts on the this. Make sure you are armed with the answers to the questions she has. Knowledge is power. The more you understand about this disease, the more you can help her understand. It's a self image disease, much like EDs. She needs professional help, I can not stress this enough.
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Hi guys;

missed the thread yesterday........OY! Jasmine, I feel for you...as the single parent of a former rebellous, unhappy overweight teenage daughter, I know you want to shield your child and keep her safe, healthy and happy.....(it ain't easy).

Get some outside help for her....your insurance should approve counseling by a social worker who acts in a psych. setting. (MSW)...you need professional intervention along with prayers....and further isolating her might not be the best solution

14 year old girls are difficult, complex with a full set of developing hormones and a mindset that can change in 10 mins. 10X a day.....

my daughter was reclusive at home, hated me, blamed me for her weight, loved her friends, ran away 3X in one year...(from NJ to Texas) and it took 3 years to get her back on track, I never could have done it alone and her father took an active loving roll....he was a baffled as I was.

I hope things go well for you.

On a lighter note......I've continued my daily cardio/wts. training and don't have too much appetite for sweets/chips/etc....(but I'd love a real strong spicey bloody mary right now)....the Xmas chocolates are going stale.

what about everyone else?

Thanx everyone for the support! miafluker, Canuk4, Is that really me, :hug:

Thank you for the prayers. We need them!

I hear ya on that one. She is definately the quiet type just like her dad. Sometimes I ask her a question and she won't answer me at all! It makes me feel like smacking her but I know that is just me trying to "control" the situation thru anger and that is not what I am about. I bite my tongue and try to ask her again and if she don't respond, let it go. When we were going thru the divorce 2 years ago the mediator recommended counseling for all kids so I took them and Kass was the only one we felt needed longer therapy but as you know that takes a while to establish rapport and trust with a child. We had a few visits but I wound up losing the van in the divorce, (he wanted it I said here, have it then! Lets not fight about it and just get it over with. He of course never made another payment and it was repo'd) Anyhow so the visits came to a halt. Joey and I have talked about more counseling but since we MAy be moving we are going to try to wait til Mt. It won't do her much good to get attached and then to move etc. I am sure all of you know what I mean and this is something that would take time of trust etc built up and her wanting to open up to talk, not just a few sessions and there your fine etc. I am also going to need to investigate out there to find a great christian counselor etc.

For now I am glad she does talk to us and generally she does spend time with us. Usually in the evenings we all have dinner together. Afterward Joey takes a break and plays on the p.c. for maybe 30 minutes and then sometimes we play games or watch movies with them, bake, have family discussions etc. Sometimes the kids run off to play and do their own thing and alot of times she will be at our door wanting to hang out with us or just to talk w/out the other kids so we do that with her.

Like I have told Joe before, she is a teenager I am surprised she wants to talk to us at all!! :lol:

But sometimes when it comes to what really bugs her she is hesitant. She said it doesn't bother her her dad is not around and that she never thinks about him. (I think she is trying to protect herself) :( Every once in a while she likes to try to arm wrestle and goof off with Joe and the other two boys. She is alot different than I am and more like her dad so that is hard for me to undersatnd sometimes. I have always accepted the kids however they want to be cause I do not expect them to be like me etc(I know all kids do take some characteristics etc) You know what I mean.

I am glad that she feels safe at home and actually wants to be here. So many kids her age are trying to get away from home cause their parents are not there for them or are there but are drug addicts alcoholics abusive etc. So if whatever is going onout there in the real world I am glad that she feels safe here and wants to be here. I don't want her becoming a complete recluse though.

You know back when I was in high school I was 15 and 215 pounds. I did want to lose weight to impress some boy and started eating healthier and walking lots. Lost down to 12 jeans and 160 pounds or so. But even being 215 I felt humongous!! When I was 160 I felt good about myself and there were other girls similiar wieghts and some of my friends too. But still the "normal" weight for girls then was like 135 or so. size 5-7, not size 12. So even around them I felt "fat".

But nowadays it is different in school. All these girls(alot) want to be anorexic! SOme of these girls are 100-115 pounds!!! Kass is 287 so that is a big difference from 287 vs 115 or so as to my 160 vs. 135. SO I can see why she don't want to be around people! She has already been steadily losing between eating healthy and snacks just at dinner and home. They rarely get junk food at home. They get pizza out maybe once a month. The sad thing is when my mom passed away two years ago near x~mas. She was NOT this heavy! (She has always been heavy but not this bad) I have pics. But you know how weight is it creeps up on ya. I was looking back thru pics and was shocked. She probably gained a good 50 pounds or so in a short period of time. I know why too. She was 12 years old, her parents are going thru a messy divorce, mom has a new guy in the pic, grandma who she was close to dies!(my mom) my dad dies a few months later and then all of a sudden her dad just abandons her. Only comes by like once a year!! That is ALOT to deal with!!! I had to deal with all of it but I am an adult!! I had my heart broken with my ex but I also had Joe there to help pick up the pieces. Joe is here for all of them and even wants to adopt them if he could but she is 12! She accepts him and all but you know, Charlie is her dad. It may take years, even adult hood before she can really trust Joe and know he is going to really be there and is a dad to her. You all know what I mean. AAahhhhhh. Anyways. I am not going to stick her on a calorie diet but just try to make sure she eats healthy at almost every meal and if she is hungry? Eat some more. Usually at dinner I was trying to feed her similiar to me but maybe a little more. We are 82 pounds different so what may be enough for me may not be enough for her. Unfortunately in the past she really dug her heels in about NOT wanting to walk with me. I was caught between wondering if I should be a complete ***** or just let her have her way. On one hand it is her life and you can lead a horse to water...etc but on the other hand I KNOW the damage being fat can do! Diabetes, heart disease, cancer, etc. I have seen it first hand with both my parents. **** no! But when I tried to "force" her. She would literally drag her feet!! It would of taken violence to get her going and I ain't doing that. I tried bribing her too with money. She didn't care. Once in a while, like twice a month we would get her to go on a family bike ride to the park. Then it got cold. We need to start that again maybe tomorrow.

Anyhow trial basis. That is exactly what I told her. I am also going to make up a little contract for her too. Basically doing her school work w/out me nagging. Same with walking etc. Maybe this is the best thing she needs and maybe once her weight gets back down maybe she will start becoming more social. When we get to Mt we want to start doing alot more things like camping, hiking, fishing etc. Those are things we were starting to do out here before we lost the car.

Exactly. I know she does cause there are different times she tells me I am the best mom etc. A few months ago she even made a surprise tea party in my honor!!! It was so sweet!!

That one nite I felt bad about needing to get rid of the things but what I told her is this, you may think I am being a "pain in the butt" and may be mad at me or hate me for a while but my number one job is to protect you! SO you can be mad at me all you want. She mentioned me going thru her notebooks I grabbed etc and I said I could understand being upset about that and normally I would let you have your privacy, I do, but when you cut yourself you have lost the right to that for now.

That is like when she started acting really quiet and hardly coming out of her room during x~mas break etc. I kept asking Joe, is she okay? Is something wrong? HE thought, shes just being a teenager etc. It was also around the time we heard from the ex and he is dying etc. SO I tryed to talk to her and let her know if she is upset we are here to talk etc but was not pushy and tryed to encourage her to come out of her room and spend time with us etc.

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Okay sweetie at least it is set. Keep reminding us so we can be praying for you!!! :hug:
Well I am glad. WHat about like chinese therapy not the acupuncture one but, you know what I mean?

Eat the healthy food! Even if you eat to much to lose at least eat the good stuff to be healthy!


Aww that brought some tears to my eyes!! Thanx so much. I know we will be okay and I just keep telling myself the scripture, "Train up a child,..." No one ever said parenting would be easy. There were also some little wooden dolls attached to her notebooks. Sad faces on all of them!!! Strange hunh? Trash!!!! When we get our taxes there are some bible videogames I want to get them. Does anyone have the 411 on bible stuff to get involved with for teens? Like hobby stuff? I want to replace this with something. I know the chronicles of narnia are good. Going to get those. But I would love to have like a monthly magazine etc. I need to find a christian book store or something.

That is awesome! I am so glad she turned out okay. It is great to know people who are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel! Like I told satan that nite when I took authority over this, she is MY daughter, NOT YOURS!! He can't have her!!!

Is that really me:
Exactly! I agree with this completely. What makes me mad is they feed them crap anyways. WHy????? I used to work at the cafeteria so i know what they eat in the jr. high. "pancake on a stick", churro, chocolate muffins, taco nada wrapped and heated in plastic!!!, chicken nuggest, corn dogs, pizza as an offering or choice every day!!! wrapped and heated in plastic!!! burritos the same way!! No more.

My two younger ones go to school later so I have been making them oatmeal and fruit or an egg toast and fruit for breakfast. SO that is a start. I need to get up earlier for Chris cause he goes at 6:50!! He told me they tryed to feed him cereal the other day!!!! Grrrr!!! SO I just need to get up a little earlier for him. We get our taxes they are all getting lunch boxes and the chili beans and sphgetti and chicken soup is pretty cheap to make. Plus has veggies and good stuff. I can make muffins premade and send that and an apple or an orange. We are going to get a wheat grinder so will start doing our own bread. Quite a few nites a week I am already making biscuits from scratch or corn bread from a mix, going to try to get some corn meal today. ;) So once I can put all this into place it won't be too bad financially wise. Hopefully next year we can start rasing our won chickens and doing our own omega 3 eggs! Not to mention our own veggie garden etc. :D

No the p.c. is in my room but I have allowed her to go on it and she usually went to youtube. Back when I didn't think there was anything wrong with the anime. No more! Thanx hun!!!! :hug:

Well, the scale actually did go down 1 lb. from last week. I'm very pleased! Just got done 25 minutes on the total gym and am off to walk the doggie.

That is great! Keep up the great work hun!!!

Well thanx ladies I do feel alot better and maybe this is just what she needs.

Despite all this I am still eating healthy! My cals have been around 1700 or so most nites. Been doing my kefir and my fruit and veggies. BEen keeping the carbs around 40% or so, trying to. The fat % has been a little higher than I would like,

1-15 1765 fat 35%/carbs 50%/protein 15%
1-16 1707 fat 42%/carbs 41%/protein 17%
1-17 1900 fat 44%/carbs 37%/protein 19%
1-18 1693 fat 44%/carbs 30%/protein 26%

The fat is higher than I wanted , want to keep it at 30-35 but oh well. It is working for me losing! I have lost two pounds this week so far! Yeah! I steppped on the scale this a.m. and am 205!!! SO I lost another pound this week! I am jazzed!!!

Tomorrow my dh wants to take us out to dinner and a movie. He sold some of his old stuff and made $100.00 so I am all for that! My all time fav meal is prime rib. Coco's is advertising it for $11.99!!! That is where we are going! Earlier in the week i was planning out to be really bad tomorrw! prime rib, baked potato with lots o butter and sour cream! salad w/ lots of ranch. hehehehe Maybe even a desert! Maybe even REAL soda!! hahahahah BIG HUGE bucket of super buttery popcorn!! and more soda!! But you know what? I have worked so hard on being good and am down two pounds and I know I will NOT forgive myself if I am back up to 206 cause of that! That is pointless. So I am going to enjoy my meal with diet soda! maybe split a desert with him. But NO on the popcorn!

Usually once a week we have been making our own popcorn in olive oil with me having maybe 1 tbs of real butter on top. Last week I had microwave popcorn with the real butter on top. (and it hasn't affected me losing, it actually usually doesn't, it is when I get rigorous and cut stuff like that out when i lose less!!! ;)

Anyhow I told myself that the home made popcorn is fine, cause I know real stuff is going in it not that fake crap! with God only knows what kind of oil and butter. So I will have some of our own maybe sunday. That is my plan! I will do fruit smoothie for breakfast and maybe a light lunch. I can do this!!!

By the way I have already lost 5 pounds this month! Yeah!!! When I put my vday goal into fitday it says I need to lose 2.07 pounds a week. I can do this! You ladies can too!!

Mande and marbles I took forever to write that and just see you both posted so I am going to read em and then I will post. (Just didn't want you two to think I am ignoring yas!)

Mande: thanx so much for sharing that hun! I am so glad you got thru it. I do want to get her into a great counselor, I explained that in my above post. I am trying to focus with her on healthy eating and exercise not on weight. That is why she has only been weighed 3 times since last summer. I was thinking once a month would be a good standard and she seems okay with it. I try not to make it an "issue" but she has seen me losing and is very proud of me. I have set her down and talked to her about health concerns though as both my parents are dead because of their lifestyles etc. I always grew up knowing the dangers of drugs and stayed away from it. I never realized about the dangers of "bad foods" and not exercising and eating too much etc. So I am trying to teach my kids that. I don't try to focus on her size or weight etc. I don't want her feeling like that too. I am sure she knows.

I do feel this stuff is bad and needs to be gotten rid of. There were many demonic images and I was so shocked. No wonder she is having trouble. I do know there are deeper problems and that is just the tip of the iceburg. (Kind of like ozzys suicide solution, many kids grew up hearing that and nothing, some kids took it to heart and killed themselves, now obviously there had to be something else going on for them to not be able to "handle" that music. But they obviously couldnt and it was a breaking point, surrounding themselves with crap like that just pushed them over the edge. So with her she doesn't need more bad stuff that feeds on this. I know that is not the primary problem. I think you all know what I mean. We are going to work thru it with her and maybe spending more time with me would be good for her. Maybe she needs that more attention.)

Great idea. This was the first two times she did it. I think she also did it in a place where she KNEW we would see. I know she wanted us to find out so that is great. She has been alot more cheerful and I think just getting that off her chest really helped. She is really happy not to be going back to school and was trying to be super helpful with dinner last nite. I feel we are on the right track. Now just to replace her hobby. :D
Thanx so much sweetie!!!

I also strongly feel that it was a demonic attack. I didn't say this earlier but even just last week I was getting depressed and didn't know why, I thought it was cause of getting tom soon. I was so upset one nite when Joe was on his way home from work on the bus I was crying and started having a panic attack and tryed to keep hanging up with him on the phone, he kept calling back. Something in my head was telling me to slice my arm or my wrist!! I HATE pain and I HATE blood! But it was very overwhelming. Even though I am very strong in prayer and rebuking the enemy when I "see it". When I get upset like that I don't even realize I am being attacked and that is when Joe starts praying for me and I am able to calm down!! I was able to fight the temptation of that by thinking of the consequences and how mad i would be if I did that. I told myself if you need to let some anger out etc than break something! haha I know, sounds bad but better than cutting myself. But I didn't want to do that either so just stayed in bed til Joe got home.

I felt bad that something was attacking both her and I and I didn't even realize it. :(

marbleflys:

I have thought about all this and am going to get her counseling. I have also weighed the pros and cons of the home study thing and have always wanted to push the social thing. But it is not working. And especially in this area it may do more harm than good. (If anyone remmebers it was just a few months ago she was in the middle of a fight with gangmembers that were neighbours and I had to go get in the middle to protect her! Gangs, drugs and Gosh knows what else at the school. She doesn't want to be there and right now I can honestly think of a good reason why. Lots of moms home school to control the environment. (usually christian) I am not a controlling person but do think if you are committed and organized it can be a good thing. I do feel she still needs to have a social outlet and we still have church. Like I said she really does NOT want to be around people at all at this point and I think it does have to do with her weight and that with her being home we can work on that and esp. we are either moving to Mt this year or egtting another vehicle. So either way we will be taking them out to do stuff on the weekends and she actually does enjoy that. Hopefully maybe in two years she will want to get back into stuff and I do want to see if I can find her a christian club etc around here.

Anyhow got to run!!! I love you guys!! :hug:

OK, now I see your point for the HSchooling........the environment at school is not safe...even if she was a "street-tough" kid....I'm a typical NJ native, urban born & bred, (I escaped to UPenn) 30 mins. from NYC, when I think of CA, I think you all live at Malibu beach and drive hummers....sorry, it must be like Newark.
Keeping her from a gang area, vicious kids with no conscious or example to follow....absolutely.....if she is sensitive in nature, she's more likely to be a target...(they always pick on them). I hope she finds a good social network as she gains more confidence in herself.

FYI, it's my experience that counseling would involve private sessions for her and then some family sessions where you gain insite to her perceptions and are advised on how you proceed to solve the problem.

Thanx Marbles!! Yeah it is NOT Malibu Beach! hahahahaha We are about 100 miles from L.A. We live in the high desert area. We moved here from San BErnardino area which had gotten VERY bad! SO the "high desert" is a BIG step up and although we don't have the gang problems of L.A. or Berdoo, it is getting ALOT worse cause they are sending all the bad kids from there up here and now homes up here, although they have skyrocketed in price, are still MUCH cheaper here than down below. So EVERYONE is moving up here!

The house we live in is only about 15 years od. So they are all still nice. What happened was when the air force base was here(4 miles away) people were building and buying but then that closed so alot of people moved away and not much work out here etc. So prices fell hard and there were even alot of "hud" homes out here. (Wish I would of been able to buy then!) So trying to escape the real bad areas in Berdoo this is like a paradise compared to it. Most of my neighbours are spanish speaking, no english. A few whites and a few blacks. When we moved here it was probably about $80,000 wish i would of been able to buy this house(4 bedroom/2 bathroom/corner lot) That was barely 5 years ago. Now this house is appraised at $280,000!!! Our rent was $725.00 and crept up to $750.00 and now is $900.00 which is still a great deal. I have a friend in the seedier section of this town renting a 2 bedroom apt for $650.00!!! That is crazy!

So all in all the area is pretty good BUT this last 2 years it has gotten bad. 2 xmases ago our house was broken into and someone stole BOTH ps2's, games, dvd players, etc!!! Around February of last year it went from "not so bad" to REALLY BAD!! catty corner and across the street a gang family moved in. I swear there was like 20 of em! 2 moms two dads and a pile of kids and teenagers. They all looked like gang bangers and the girls came over and wanted Kass(my eldest) to go hang out and talk but she didn't want to.

There were two girls and one boy that rode Chris and Kass bus out to jr. high with them. Lots of cars coming and going. Cops coming by all the time. At 4 o clock one morning we heard a drive by shooting!!!! Guess where? Yep! At their house. The first shooting I have EVER heard up here! Fortunately they are on the other side of the street but what if they started shooting back? That is our house!!! VERY scary!!!

It really hit in June when it started getting warm and the rest of the house was locked but we decided to keep our window open a little. Around 3 a.m. I heard the mini blind roll straight up!!! I woke up but thought maybe a bird hit it?!? Went back to sleep but was a little disturbed. 4 oclock I feel a presence in my room!! I look over and there is some guy sitting in our window!!!!!! (We have a huge sliding glass window) I started screaming and grabbing at Joe. He finally woke up turned and looked but the guy was gone by then. I managed to choke out someones here. He thought I just "thought" he didn't know I had seen someone but he got on his pants and was getting ready to race out there anyhow.

I KNEW someone was there and that he would probably meet up with them. Joey grew up tough and I know he can handle himself but idk if the guy had a gun or a knife or if someone else was in the house with our kids etc!!!! SO I said, NO! Go check on the kids!!!!! He did and they were fine and then went around the house and seen a bike out front by our car!!!! I had a panic attack so bad that morning we thought I was having a heart attack!!!! Stole my purse and everything

That is what pretty much sealed the decision that we HAVE to move!!!!

Then not long later Kass and Chris having trouble with the gang family. (They had done a drive by on another family that they thought was harassing their kids) This time it was THEIR kids harassing MY kids! I am NOT going to stand for it! So I went over there and got in a very heated discussion where the mom agreed, her boy is a bad kid and that all her older kids are in juvenile hall. She has 10! I suggested that if our kids do not like each other than they all can stay away from each other etc!

Thank God that turned out okay. They also moved about 2 months ago so things are settling down again but this is the kind of stuff we are dealing with here.

At the other jr. high they went to last year(That one closed down) I worked there as a cashier. Anyhow my son is more on the scrawny side and was not raised rough. HE does get picked on cause he is smaller and not "tough enough" and he is also in a smaller class so he can focus and learn! Anyhow someone tryed to get in a fight with him, (not the first one) but he tryed to fight back and the security guard even came and talked to me and let me know what was going on. She asked me to PLEASE tell my son to NOT fight back, to come and get one of them. She said alot of these kids are really bad and bring their own weapons to school etc. She said he could get seriously hurt trying to fight back! uuggghhhhhh

And that really sucks cause I have always tryed to teach my kids how to stand up for themselves etc and for me to get involved only when it is serious(like the gang case)

Yeah we just want to get the **** away. Joey grew up for a few years in south Carolina and that really toughed him up. He has been in many fights and even been stabbed. So when he moved to Mt he was like in culture shock. That is good. That is what we want!!

My gosh! How did you get thru it???

I just found out they have a teen center in town!! It is based on God and supported through people and churchs. wow it has been here for 5 years and I had no idea.

Jasmine I just want to tell you that my prayers are with you. I was a very lonely child growing up my parents were divorced, I had what I thought an evil step mother and I moved in with my mother at age 11 who was never home worked full-time and was always at the bar after that at least til midnight if not later.

I could not stand school!! Kids were and are still cruel and I always felt like I didn't fit in. I too tried to cut my self around age 14 with glass in a abandoned barn by myself a couple times, but luckily it didn't work. We moved and I still was lonely. I got into alcohol and drugs, dropped out of school at age 17. Later after moving again by myself to Oregon then back to CA down south by Fresno.

I got focused somewhere along the line and obtained my GED then started college and found a new focus in life, but then I had to move back to the same area and moved back with my mom I didn't want to (I was enjoying being on my own for once) and cried with heart sickness.

I had my first son got divorced and had a new focus someone that I had to take care of and I swore I would make sure my children were never lonely and had some sort of focus in life (finally, a reason to live; I never knew what love was until then).

I finally reached my goal finishing college and becoming a nurse at age 28. I Never thought it would happen. I was then able to support myself if needed, but have always desired to stay home full-time, but I am able to stay home much of the time only working 8 days a month. Even now those feelings of worthlessness come back and even interfere with work and life.

I ask my kids everything. I am kind of more of a friend at times than a parent. Although through play, I try and teach them everything that I have learned upon the way. I ask a million questions and try to listen as much as possible. I look at all of their friends and ask them questions we play games like Chicken Soup for the Kids Soul ( you wouldn't believe what comes out then).

I probably bug them too much and they do tell me to stop sometimes, but I just say you know what I am learning too and I am doing way better then my parents did before me. I had to learn the hard way.

I tell them I hope they use the info in a productive manner and I constantly remind them that staying here is only a temporary thing, I am just here to love and teach them what I know, they have their whole lives in front of them and that they will have to make their own way and ask what they are going to do with their lives (college, job, what?).

My oldest will be 14 next month and it scares me everyday, I keep waiting for him to slam the door in my face and shut me out. He is as tall as me now and next year probably taller. I just hope I can keep him focused and busy (sports etc...and keep him focused on health, mentally and physically).

Don't know what you can do with that above but I will be praying for you! Thank God you found out now!!

I am so glad that everyone is so supportive of you and your family Jasmine, I should of known they would be. It is so unbelieveable all that I read, I am totally shocked, only because so much of it I can relate to myself. Hooray for these wonderful ladies, you should all be so proud of what you have been thru and come out of. I know that is hard, as I am relating to being lonely myself, my mom preferred my 3 brothers and was very hard on me, I had to clean up after them all the time, they never had many chores, were spoiled.

I was seperated from my X when my daughter was 17mths and I was pregnant for my son, took the idiot back for 6 weeks and we split again, he wrote my car off, left me living outside the city, in the country where I only new one person, called and was coming after me one night when he was drunk, I got out with the kids and never lived there again. When I packed up my Dad was there and had a baseball bat in case he came back, he didn't.
I lived in a one bedroom apt. with my two kids in the bedroom in cribs and me on a pull out couch in the living room. I swore that my kids would be brought up different, listened too and shown they were loved, and I did, but that still was not enough for my daughter, sometimes no matter what we do, it is not enough. She was always a loner, had one friend she still is friends with, spent a lot of time alone in her room too, I would check on her, be there for her if she was upset, hold her, try to say the right words and never feel even now that I do. But she was like her Dad, very stubborn, with a mind of her own from a young age. She left home to live with a guy when she was 17, she quit school and worked full time at Wendy's Rest., he was a guy who was not very intelligent, but had some money. She lived there for maybe 4 mths, then we brought her home and she was even more indepentent, she had had a touch of freedom (she asked to come home), but that is when she went to counselling at this school and she would go in one door and out another, then meet me for pick-up. Eventually I was able to influence her to go back to school and graduate, the day she did she said, I only did this because of you. But then she went to college, found her nitch and is doing well now, she still suffers from SAD disorder, but her dad and I suffer from depression, so it did not come as a big surprise, with the trials of trying to get her out of her bed and all the rest that went with it. I have never seen her so happy as she is now, with the man of her dreams, she takes things in stride, laughs a lot, is just plain happy.

So people and especially Jasmine, you can do everything in your power and she still may show a mind of her own. Though I think because of her age, you have a lot more going for you, in dealing with her. Just keep up what your doing, with giving her a lot of attention and really listening to her, I agree with the counseling the girls have suggested, but make sure she is happy with the person she has to relate too, even if you have to try more than one. I think that is really important. I prayed for her today and will continue to do so.

Good thing the gang family moved away, I think it does not matter where you live, we were suspicious of the people living next door, sure enough they had a grow operation going, our houses are all around 50 yrs. old, and most times the grow operations around here are in the newer and bigger houses, but the signs never seem to change. Thank goodness they moved. We talked to the next owner and found out there was the big flouresent lights all piled downstairs.

I was 135 in grade 8 and was called Baby Moose, I was so hurt it stayed with me, I gained from there and probably was about 160 when I graduated. But I have been a yo yo dieter all my life, I can feel for your daughter and how cruel kids can be. So you get my vote on the home schooling.

Thanks for the kind words about my arm, it is now the waiting game that I hate, I want to take action, once a decision is made.

I visited Dad tonight, he is doing much better, he felt a little worse earlier in the day, so glad he came around.

Food wise today, was not too bad, had two smoothies and a roast beef sub on whole wheat. Only exercise was walking around the stores and grocery shopping, hubby was with me so curbed my spending thank-goodness. Was still at 131 when I weighed, so that is okay.

Take care and have a good day everyone.
Sharon

I've been mia for a few days. Jasmine I'm so sorry to hear about your daughter. My son was 7 when he started cutting himself. He had over 40 cuts over his body one day on the playground. We had to put him in a hospital for a week. They explained that when someone hurts so badly inside and does not no how to handle it, they cut themselves because they understand physical pain and its easier to deal with.

Anyway he is 12 now and on meds and an honor student. It hasn't happened again since the meds were straightened out.

Life is pretty busy around here. Got our water bill and found out we had two leaking toilets! We were able to fix one and hired someone to fix the other one. Oh well. :(

I'm doing just okay on eating. Not overeating but not really dieting well either. I've haven't been exercising either.

I got blood work taken from an allergist and found out that my thybroglouibin (sp?) is 117. A normal range is below 10. I'm not sure what that means. I called my doctors office and did not get a return call. I did some research on the internet and there were all kinds of possibilities from hyperthyroid to cancer. Just like someone to explain it to me.:?:

We are going to a reward luncheon for my oldest son. He got a scholarship for writing a paper on freedom. We find out today if he wins regional. If he does he has to read his paper out loud today and I think he secretly hopes that he doesn't win. ;)

well i weighed in this morning the scale said 225 so i guess it was wrong from 223 am i disappointed yeah but its still a loss so i guess i better be happy about that. Im really getting a new scale this is irratating

New to the board, looking to settle in :)
 

Hi everyone, my name is Sumi, I was hoping I could join in on your challenge! I have a overall goal of 50 lb's to lose. But my first goal is 10%. I hope to meet this first goal by April, for no paticular reason other than it is what I have set ;) I hope I can jump in and get to know you all, I sure could use some support, I am new to dieting and I seem to be very bad at it! --Sumi

Hi! When I was over on the low carb board there was this awesome lady called nonstickpam who knew everything there is to know about thyroid. I acually went in last june thinking I was hypo, but found out I was anemic. Which is serious too but I was hoping it would explain my weight gain. Anyway as far as the bloodwork they did (which was like pulling teeth) they didnt find didly squat for me LOL They still didn't test my free t3 and antibodies ERR (I can send you the link if you like, she can explain your bloodwork).

welcome Sumisan! everyone here are great and have lost of great info
we start a new thread every sunday I also am not all that great with dieting but from what i hear it takes 10days to turn something into a habit. I thought about low carb since im not a big bread eater either but programs like atkins is way to restrictive for me.

Just a quickie to post that I had a great treadmill workout this a.m. 3 miles w/plenty of running. I did the 3 miles in 46 minutes -- that's 2 minutes off my normal time!! Very pleased with this little NSV. I think the cold I had that was dragging me down all week is finally on its way out. Now my husband has it. Hope everyone has a great weekend.

Jo

Stopeating, sorry I am no help is the area you need. Maybe you can try the person from the other link?

Sumisan welcome, yes we all are pretty supportive of each other and try and help if we can. I myself am having a hard time co-ordinating the exercise and dieting, I just started in Nov. I also need to lose at least 50 lbs. due to my bad knee.

Today started off great with exercising on the floor for at least 50 mins., then I was busy most of the day, with household chores, then tonight, I ate choclate, after a good meal and had a drink, I don't know what is the matter with me. Maybe it is all the health issues. Plus a small fight again with my daughter re: the date for Dad's birthday party and her's being so close. I am going to call her finance' this week and suggest he have a surprise party for her. That might get me off the hook, but I will still be the bad guy! YUM Do kids ever grow up and realize you can't please everyone all the time and who is most important in the party area, her grandfather who will be 95 or her who will be 30. I am not saying I would ecnore her birthday, I was planning a special dinner for her, but with her attitude I am finding it hard to plan anything for her. Oh well that is life.

How are you doing Jasmine, been thinking and praying for you all.
Good luck everyone for tomorrow.
Sharon

Thanks Sumisan - I would like to try out the link.

Miafluker - A loss! Yeah!!:carrot:

Sharon - It is so frustrating when happy times turn into arguing and fights. I'm going through that right now and I feel frustrated. All you can do is your best. :)

We went to the regional awards scholarship dinner yesterday. My son did not make the next level but it was really cute. He was so nervous because there were so many people he was praying so hard that he wouldn't win because he didn't want to get in front of everyone and read his speech!

My little one has been saving money for a Nintendo Wii and a shipment arrived at the store early this morning. I got out of bed early, through on a coat, and took him to the store in the freezing cold. He is now officially the happiest little boy in Michigan!:D It was well worth it and I can hear him and his brothers laughing like crazy and getting along upstairs right now!

Okay I am going to go ride my bike for the first time in a week. We may go sledding today. Not my favorite thing because I get so cold, but we only do it two or three times and I do have fun.

Thanks Shannon :) I am really motivated to actually get it done this time. I don't have any support at home here but I know I need it. I have this awful disease called procrastination-itis LOL

Stopeating - I sent you that link in a private message, I said it was to the last page but I think I goofed and it was the first.

I am working on my menu plan for the next week today, entering in my common recipes into recipezaar and fitday. Hopefully all this technological gizmo's will help LOL I had a great start today, hot cereal and melon! Totally filled me up and its already snack time, and I am not thinking about a snack yet. Usually by now I am into chips and crackers or chocolate. Never mind the fact that I finished off the last box we will ever bring into the house yesterday LOL and so there isnt any to eat haha :dizzy:

Have a great day everyone!!! --Sumi

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=102632

Okay everyone I didn't get time to read the rest of this thread but will get to it tomorrow and respond in new thread. Meanwhile I wanted to start the new one for the week! So there is the link!!! Everyone go there! No more posting in here!!

HI Guys,
What's going on how is everyone? just got beck from dr today weight 171 will try my best to loose 10lbs at least this month...I have bee working out the gym is aw-some I am gonna try YOGA and kickboxing.... I love the elliptical machine it's aw-some I hope every one is doing good been working around house washing ext. My son had the whole wrestling team over this weekend they had a ball went in pool and lake....They all call me the team mom!!! I'm happy they all like me..soon will be last match SO sad the season IS OVER NOW BASEBALL BEGINS and here comes baseball mom!!!! weeeee!!!

will post soon
take care drink plenty of water!!!!!

HI Mande!!!!!
HI Jasmine!!!!!