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heartmom 08-27-2003 08:07 PM

Back on the computer again! I didn't know whether I should bring it up on this board or not- being a religion topic and all. I definetly don't want to start a debate BUT- I'm a little peeved about them taking the 10 commandments statue down in Alabama- all because some Atheist lawyers said it violated their rights. And then seeing what happened with the Chicago shooting today. People are getting worse by the minute. Believe me, I'm not a religious fanatic. I don't even claim a specific religion. I believe in God and know that in life we should live "righteously" (sp?). I don't go to church but do have a strong faith in God and know that he has a purpose and plan for all of us. My faith was deepend when Boogie was born and I believe that the power of prayer is why he's here today. Forgive me for rattling on and I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes here- guess I'm just tired of how things are going in the world...

heartmom 08-27-2003 08:10 PM

Oh, I just took a test on beliefnet to find out your faith/religion- it said mine was 100% Orthodox Judaism--I'm not even Jewish,lol. Hmmm, gonna check a little into it..

Debelli 08-27-2003 09:09 PM

Evening All:wave:

Haven't been able to get on the computer, kids have been hogging it - school starts, and you know how that goes!

Got in my 4.5 miles today:D

MICHAEL'S birthday was today - ordered a cake from Publix and took it to his school for his friends at lunch-they loved it.

Did want to take a moment to welcome BOOM to the board! http://members.aol.com/eldemila/sb_sign1.jpg Many of the gals have converted over from Atkins and I'm sure they'll be happy to help answer any questions you may have. As someone mentioned, I too always recommend the following site to give a good overview of SB : http://www.prettyimpressivestuff.com/sugarbusters Any other questions you have-just ask!!!

Gotta run - will have time tomorrow morning to catch up with all the posts!!



bashful8 08-27-2003 10:09 PM

Thank you all (Again) for your wonderful warm words and wishes. I am going to start WW, but include all that I have learned from doing SB (really limited starchy carbs and white stuff). And I especially thank those of you who have encouraged me to keep coming to the SB boards for support. I think you are a really great group of people (I've been to other boards where the members are not as welcoming or as cohesive) and even though I will have very little free time come next week, it is wonderful to know that I am still welcome here. I am hoping that WW will put more structure on my eating than I am able to do on my own (even with the tracking I've been doing thanks to Debbie). Hopefully, I can combine these two ways of eating to make a way that really works for me and is healthy. I hope that by combining them I will be more successful in my weight loss, but also not feel overwhelmed when I can't find SB legal food as long as what I eat is the best choice I can make and stays within my points.

Beachfan: Thank you for the warning about being hungry on WW, I will try to be mindful of that. When I've done WW in the past I was only hungry when I had to go from one point range to a lower point range. What always got in my way before was planning. My hubby, who does most of the cooking and is really supportive of me no matter what I do, says he'll help me do the meal planning in advance so that it is not so overwhelming during the week. Hopefully that will help. WHen I've stayed on plan with WW I've lost so hopefully combing with SB will make it that much better.

Thanks again everyone for all your support.

Ellen 08-27-2003 11:04 PM

Evening everyone!

The small group was thrilled with the lasagna. Of course, the majority of them are singles, and a home cooked meal tastes great to them, unless it is bonafide shoeleather! :D

I ate two smallish pieces of it, and two pieces of bread, and salad. Its been a coons age since I had lasagna, so it tasted pretty good!

HEART: I know what you mean about the state of the world. Seems we have lost a lot of character, and morals through the years. I can't help but wonder why those who clamour for removing God from every aspect of our society can't see the connection....

Time to hit the hay! Night everyone! Sweet dreams!

tysgrammy 08-28-2003 12:40 AM

Thanks for the support
I can't thank everyone enough for the support I receive from this board. I just got home from class and wanted to grab something to eat. I decided to check the board first. I am so glad I did.

Heartmom--Thanks for the encouragement. I needed to know that gaining that one pound back wasn't the end of my dream to hopefully one day be back to a healthy weight. After reading your wonderful words of support I have renewed hopes of losing all this excess weight, maybe not as fast as I would like, but eventually I will step on that scale and be near or at my goal weight.

Toni48 and Pancho---I also want to thank both of you for taking the time to encourage me not to give up. You will never know how much I needed this support tonight.

To everyone on this board, Thanks for always being here!!!!!

Ellen 08-28-2003 07:59 AM

TYS: You don't want to give up! Just keep telling yourself, the slower you lose, the better it stays off. Even if you don't lose a pound, this is still a healthier way to eat, and you will feel better and be healthier, even if you don't lose anything! (I tell myself that all the time, since I am insulin resistant, and hypothyroid, and it takes me forever to lose anything. I started on Atkins five years ago, and have been doing SB for almost two years, and my total loss is only about 45 pounds.) I am so glad you joined us. We need you as much as you need us! :)

Debelli 08-28-2003 08:14 AM

Good Thursday Morning:wave:

Sitting here, all ready to go out for my walk but unfortunately, the threat of rain:rain: is too big and I hear it thundering out there. It was sprinkling here and there on my way home from dropping off the kids and now I'm hearing the sounds of drums outside, I want to go but sure don't need a repeat of Tuesdays drenching!:nono:

I forgot to mention the other day that ELI brought me some roses and a card for our anniversary - not on the right day, and he sure didn't know what day it was. Was disappointed as I thought with 10 years not only would he of remembered, but at least planned something on some day. MEN!:mad:

Also, went back the other day to the eyeglass place and another person helped me instead of the old man that had initially. He couldn't believe how off the glasses were either!:eek: Anyhow, I had to pick out a different frame - not an easy feat for me to do - so the perscription would fit in the lens correctly. Should be ready next week.

My parents left for NC today and won't be home til the end of Oct. I'm hoping they can meet up with YELLOWROSE and DH RAY at some time - they don't live far apart, about 45 minutes I'd say.

Then, got some other news yesterday - my GF went and bought a house and didn't tell anyone til after he closesd! AND, to top it all off, it's far!!! He's moving north, about 3 hours away. Geez, talk about making a big turnaround and keeping a tight lip. I don't understand his reasoning for not telling others other than people saying to stay close. He'll be 87 in Nov - who'd want to buy a house, a 3 bedroom nonetheless, at that age, not to mention, poor health? He claims he can't afford to live here anymore between the taxes and car insurance. We figured, other than Thanksgiving we'll never see him, if even then. That's truly a bummer! None of us is happy about this decision he made, but it was his to make and not ours.

Hmmm, what else - oh yeah, I made a new side dish yesterday AND it was edible AND it was liked by everyone!:spin: It's a spinach ricotta "quiche". I adjusted a few things from the recipe to make it a tad less fattening. It was really good and I even got a thumbs up from MICHAEL. One way to get the veggies in. There's very little left:D

Thanks to all of you who put your input about that post. I know just what kind of board we have and it irks me for people who post things they know nothing about, and untrue at that:mad:

Eating has been 100% OP I'm proud to say:D

MELF called me the other night - lots going on between DAXTON, her GS, her daughter JODI who's preg. and work, not to mention they are going to see her other DD in Texas this weekend, so she may not get on the board, but wanted me to send you her regards:)

I've gotten so far behind with posts that it will take me forever to catch up, so I hope you all don't mind that I start anew. If anyone posted something of great importance that I should be aware of, please, do let me know. I'll be able to keep abreast of things through this weekend. It was hard for me to get on between both the kids and homework, esp. MICHAEL who was still up after 3am today - I don't know HOW this kid stays awake and then get up - he'll def. make a good Dr. as far as getting up for rounds and having to stay up all hours!

Okay, I'm going outside to assess the sky - I hear the thunder still but if it looks like it may be clearing, I'm gonna try to go out at some point, if it's not too late. I swear, I must be cursed, I say something, and boom, I hear it raining!!!:rain:

{{{HUGS}}} to you all!:grouphug:


Toni48 08-28-2003 08:39 AM

Good morning everyone. Finally got to weigh this morning and I lost 1 1/2 lbs. since Monday so I feel pretty good. Sure good to have my scale back. Only got to walk a little on my TM this morning, right in the middle of walking my washer went out of balance and I had to get off. The lady is coming that helps clean my house once a month so I'd better get to posting...

fruitloupe- You are going to have sooooo much fun. Bring us all back some beads.. I'll have pink please...

Monet- You're sure making that pool sound good, we're roasting here in Missouri. Glad your co worker is still trying and hope she comes on here for some good support. Lasagna yum yum.....Thats so sad about your co workers loss.

Pancho- Hope you had a good evening. Those pot pies are great and sure need to remember to get me more tomorrow...

beachfan- Howdy girl hope you're doing alright....

heartmom- I'll have to try that web site to find out what religion I am.....It would probably say goofball....

Debilli- Congrads on that big walk.... You're doing great...Spinach quiche sounds good.

tysgranny- You go girl today is a new day!!!!!

Am I caught up? I'll check back later...

Solly 08-28-2003 09:05 AM

Happy Thursday,

Only 1 more day and then along weekend. Yippee!

Got our 3 mile walk in last nite. It started storming while I was fixing dinner. So afterwards it had really cooled down. So it wasn't too bad out there. Did get my wt training done while waiting for the rain to stop. So I am 3 for 3 so far this week. We don't walk on Friday's so I will try my best to get up and go before work tomorrow.

Nothing exciting going on with me so will get to posts:

Tysgrammy, You know why you were up and what you have to do to fix it. That is important. I truly believe coming to this board really helps stay OP. Try to pop in when yu can. 8 lbs is awesome for the first week and you just have to hang in there. This really does work. :bravo: for you going back to school in your 40's.

Toni, no, I hate cold weather. I don't care how hot it gets. Bet that perm looks great. Congrats on the 1 1/2 lbs. You are doing so great.

Missy, you are making me jealous with all that talk of Bourbon St. DId I tell yu we are coming to NO in Oct. We will have to meet if you can. What's the name of the place you can get legal pizza there. 3 for 1, wow! I remember those.

Monet, al lthis talk about lasagna is making me want it. Guess I will have to fix some and invite DD over. It's her favorite, and I know she's not making it. How sad about your friend's friend. Going into nutrition sounds so great. I wish my daughter would do that. I think it is so interesting. I read everything I can on the subject. Is that a new tag line or am I not very attentive? It is cute.

Pancho, you could have eaten a lot worse than the pretzel. Just jump right back op and you will be fine.

Heartmom, I do agree with you on the Ten Commandments. I believe when they took God out of the schools is when all our problems started. I had received an email that I thought was so great about a graduating class where the word God was forbidden to be used. At the commencement address people aluded to God but never came out and said His name. Finally the validictorian spoke and at the end he sneezed. The audiance all said "God Bless You" Whenthey reallized what had just happened, they all stood up and cheered. Very clever.

Deb, congrats on getting out there and walking still. Belated Birthday wishes to Michael. At least Eli didn't forget totally. I guess better late than never. Men never think of doing big things. I guess it's just their makeup. Is this the GF that the GM just died? Did he have these plans before she passed away or just since he passing? Man that is quite a big decision. Does anyone live close to where he is moving? I can't imagine someone that age doing that. He must be very independent.

Bashful, best of luck to you and come back here whenever you can.

Kim, Hoping this have slowed down for you. Come back soon.

Bob, have a great trip. Be careful driving.

Need to get prepared for a meeting. Hope to check back later.


Solly 08-28-2003 10:00 AM


I read in Fitness magazine last night that even 1 alcohol drink inhibits wt loss for 24 hours.

Missy, be careful with those 3 white russion. That's 3 days of not losing!

Also, does anyone know how to print out the list of smiles. I did a print screen and pasted into word, but cannot get it to print.


Solly 08-28-2003 10:03 AM

Never mind about this smiles, my new printer printed them. Thanks anyway


Libra925 08-28-2003 10:37 AM

Good morning, everyone. Just a quick note and then back to work.

Monet - I'm going to be one of the slow losers, I guess. Since 12/26/02, I've lost 17 lbs. I really don't mind that it's so slow (well, maybe I mind a little bit!). I'm hoping by losing it slowly that maybe I won't have as much baggy skin. At 54 yo and needing to lose 130 lbs, losing it quickly could really leave me sagging everywhere! Ironically, with all the weight I've gained, I managed to work up to a B cup in my bra. One good thing about that, though. When they sagged, they didn't go very far!!!!

Toni - I love to have someone work with my hair. What I've started doing is going to a beauty college to have mine done. It usually takes the stylist 45 - 60 min to do mine. They give a great shampoo and it takes longer for the cut. AND it's cheaper!! How far from the Arkansas border do you live? I've been to St. Louis but it's been years and years ago. So glad you got your scale fixed. I still chuckle when I think about you stepping on it and seeing 800 lbs! I probably would have fainted!

Gotta work. Have a great day everyone.


Pancho 08-28-2003 11:11 AM

Good Thursday Morning:

Well, I do have to say that I don't understand my body. I ate that pretzel yesterday that I shouldn't have, and then I also ate a nsa Blue Bunny ice cream cone, a few ounces of 65% cocoa chocolate (TOM) and then pretty much normal the rest of the day and this morning - 124#. I thought I'd be up, but I am at my all-time low (I've hit it once or twice before). Go figure!

A few notes on the nutritionist now that I've had time to absorb the info. One of the recommendations was this green food called Perfect Food; it comes in powder or caplets. I really think I am going to get it. It is a capsule that you can take that is made of all natural plant ingredients. You take 5 a day (I think) and it is equivalent to 6-10 servings of green veggies. I may not take the 5 a day since I know I eat my green veggies, but it's good to have on the days I don't eat as many as I should. Also, unless you are eating constantly, I think it is difficult to get 5-6 servings of veggies/fruits a day. I also will consider the digestive enzyme; sounds like it has all positive benefits. The name he recommended is Wobenzyme; if you have time and it sounds interesting, just punch it in in your search engine, and read up on its many benefits. It can help with far more than digestion.

THIS IS ALSO IMPORTANT FOR ANY OF YOU WHO MISS MEALS (like my mom)!!!!! I'm sure most of you know this, but he confirmed it for me. It is very important to eat 6 mini meals a day or 3 meals with 3 snacks throughout the day (or more). When we miss a meal or go long periods of time without feeding our body, it goes into starvation mode. Let's say I know I am going out for big dinner, so I skip breakfast and have a small snack mid-day and then go to dinner and PIG OUT! My body is going to say, "she hasn't fed me all day, I am going to hang on to all of this and not burn any of it since I don't know when my next meal will be." Yes, our body's can talk (ha). Whereas, if you are always munching (on the right foods), your body knows it is going to eat again very soon, and won't hang on to that food. It will let you burn it vs hoarding it, since it can rely on you feeding it again soon. I was explaining this to my mom, and she said, "go figure...people used to starve themselves to lose weight, who would have thought that by eating you could lose weight." She told me that a few days ago, she woke up late and skipped breakfast. She was out at lunchtime and had no good choices so she skipped that too, and had a reasonable dinner (chicken, salad....no starches), and the next morning stepped on the scale and she was up 2 pounds. She had been losing/maintaining on the days she ate more.

I am going to donate some items to local charity when DD is in school and then buy some items to donate to a local scool for underprivileged/homeless children. I will then go to Costco right before I pick her up and pick up a few items we need there.

Anyway, enough rambling here!

heartmom: I can understand your frustration. We will soon have money that reads, "In Political Correctness We Trust."

bashful: Good luck with WW; I know that beach has done well with it. I did WW before I knew anything about SB, and although I lost a little weight, I was miserable. I made all the wrong choices, and my points were almost gone before dinner. I would choose 2 oreos (or something else) over the fruits/veggies. As long as I didn't go over my points, it didn't matter to me what the points were comprised of. And banking points...what's that? I never had any to bank. I also didn't like all the bland boring food. My husband hated the meals I made when I was on WW (ha). Now knowing what I do about SB, I think combining the two would be a great approach, but I also know I would always be hungry, like I was when I was on it before. I remember working out and not having any energy left. Please keep us up to date on your losses and how it is working for you. I think down the road, WW, Jenny Craig, etc...will be incorporating more low-carb, low-sugar recommendations into their plans, and it will be better for everyone!

tysgrammy: We are always better than any stinkin' snack!:lol:

Deb: Sorry to hear about your GF moving away. Is there anyone nearby to keep an eye on him? It sounds as if he is getting up there in age, and doesn't have the best health to be on his own. Good job staying OP.

Toni: Great job on the 1.5 pound loss!! What a great excuse to end a workout early, eh?;)

Jack: You are doing so well with exercise!!!

Monet: Alright - his card reads: Edward J. Gomillion...DD, CA, C.N.M., LMT. He has a website on his card you may be able to take a peek at. [email protected]. One of the really neat things they do is a blood lipid profile. They prick your finger to get a little of you blood and put it under a microscope, you can then view your live blood on a monitor in their office to see if there are any "invaders" in there such as bacteria and stuff. He showed me a sample tape with the red blood cells staying still (as they do) and the white blood cells moving through. Also showed me some abnormalities in that particular blood profile. It was very interesting. I'd like to have that done one day.

Sorry if I missed anyone; I need to go wash this face and put some makeup on and get this mop styled.

Sorry for the novel, just had a lot to share today.

Take care!!!

Debelli 08-28-2003 11:57 AM

Hey All:wave:

Stuck at home - thank goodness I didn't try and go out for my walk, it would of been a lot worse than Tuesday. The lightening was so bad I had to turn the computer off. My sister's SIL called me asking questions about SB and there was a bright flash of light in my bedroom with a crack of thunder immediately afterwards that actually made me jump!:yikes: I had to get off the phone, you could even hear it in the phone! It's just starting to finally let up know, so I thought it would be safe to come on line.

TONI, wonderful news to hear you're down another 1 1/2lbs :bravo: You're doing so well - keep up the great work!

JACKK, yes, it's the only Grandparent I have left living now. It seems that he had a piece of land that he was in the midst of selling up there while my GM was sick and he finally sold it. The realtor mentioned that she knew a man who wanted to sell his house but didn't want to list it and would sell it at a good price - seems he's a 4th cousin of Eastman from Eastman Kodak family, just a tidbit that didn't make much difference to me either way. Anyhow, I guess he sneaked up there, liked it and bought it, not telling anyone til it was over and done with. My Uncle, his youngest son lives in WPB, which is about an hour ride south from where my GF will be living, so no, no one in the general area. I just don't understand his reasoning behind it all and it seems I'm not the only one.:shrug: I guess it's good that I'm not a drinker - I can inhibit my weight loss so many other ways, just imagine if I were!:rolleyes:

LIBRA, my cousin started SB, sorta modified to fit her, not a true SB, but she's lost 20lbs since January, and like you, it's slow, but she's happy with how it's going because she said she doesn't feel like she's been on any diet. She needs to lose about 50-75lbs I think. You'd be so lucky not to have saggy skin-you should see me! I sag all over! From years of yo-yo dieting. :(

PANCHO, I've always told people that if mini-meals fit in to their lifestyles that's the way to go-and why not, then you'd never be hungry! If you are, you're probably not eating enough. Remember, one slip up once in a while won't kill you-it's when that one turns into two close together. If you like veggies you shouldn't have any trouble getting them in. 3 fruits and 2 veggies, even I can manage that a day. I feel you lose out on the fiber when taking pills, but if it's the only way to get the nutrients in you, better that than nothing, I guess:)

Okay, pot pie is going to be done soon. Will go eat and probably relax a bit before I have to go get the kids. With the way the weather is today, I'm not going too far from home.



laurieann227 08-28-2003 03:41 PM

What a great site. I gotta hand it to ya'll, this is wonderful! I have read through some posts and have a question - I see that most posts are on the weekly board. Is there one thread for the board and everyone just replies to it and the next week a new thread is created and that's what everyone goes to? I have it about figured out.

The information is great. Oh my goodness, I'm excited I found ya'll. I am just starting Sugar Busters tomorrow (payday for me), in conjunction with biking (I have ridden my stationary bike for 5 minutes, one mile each night, for the last two nights) and will begin taking the weight loss drug Meridia. I weigh in at 300 lbs and on a 5'3/1" frame that's not healthy for me. Big family history of heart problems and blood pressure problems as well as Type II diabetes and I want to be healthy if I face those things - ya know? Also, I just want to eat better to feel better and lose this weight. My doctor does Sugar Busters and wants me to become a Sugar Busters disciple, LOL. So far I'm singing it's praises as I'm reading the book and I love the handy shopping guide they have out.

Starting Sugar Busters, what has been ya'll's biggest obstacle? I feel as much as I weigh I will never get it off, yet having read some of ya'll's posts I can see that so many of you are doing GREAT! I'm so proud of ya'll and the support you give each other is tremendous.

Any words of wisdom for a newbie?

Laurie - oh, I did the bio thing on the Bio Board to read more about me. :-)

heartmom 08-28-2003 04:32 PM

Welcome, Laurie! I see you are from MS- what town? I live in Meridian and my name is also Laurie. Once you get all that sugar out of your system, you will notice a natural decrease in appetite, so you won't need diet pills. I know from experience- that's why I started SB to get away from all the fad diets and pills.

Not much going on today. Just took a bath and need to blow-dry my hair. It always ends up a frizzy mess when I do, but I need a haircut right now and if I don't, then it's flat. Suppossed to have a couple of friends over for supper tonight. So far though, they haven't called to confirm that they are coming. Oh, well- more for us,lol. I've got chicken breasts marinating in the fridge and will fix cabbage and peas/beans mixed. I was up 1/2 a pound this morning, but it's probably some fluid retention from the chili last night. As you see, not much to report for today...

Debelli 08-28-2003 05:04 PM

Evening All:wave:

Just a quickie...

LAURIE http://members.aol.com/eldemila/sb_sign2.jpg Not sure if you saw my short welcome on the othe board you posted, but what the heck, WELCOME AGAIN!:D Glad you've decided to join us! Yes, you are correct, we basically post on the SB WEEKLY SUPPORT BOARD. A new board is started each and every Monday morning and they are all dated. We also post our exercises on our SB WEEKLY EXERCISE BOARD which that too gets a new board each week. Your Dr. is a smart cookie for suggesting SB - it's a healthy WOE that can be followed the rest of your life. Please, don't hesitate to ask any questions, the book can be a little misleading, confusing and contradictory at times, so if you find that to be so, it's not you. Ask questions - we're all more than happy to help answer them. If you can find MICHEL MONTIGNAC'S book EAT YOURSELF SLIM at the library (hard to find on line since it's OOP) get it, it will help you understand this WOE moreso. I can totally understand where you are coming from and where you want to go, I was once 284lbs yet I'm only 5' 1 1/2" tall. You will lose the weight, just make sure you are patient, it's one of the keys to your success:) Hmmm, my personal biggest obstacle hasn't been losing the weight but keeping it off once I'm there. It's a never ending struggle and will be so the rest of my life. This is truly a WOE as well as a learning experience, such is life, and I'm learning each and every day that this is not something I do, lose the weight, and then go back to old ways:nono: this is going to be something I do the rest of my life. I'm here for the long haul! Words of wisdom, stick with us, get a good support system (here and home) do it for yourself, not to please anyone else or to do it for a certain event, be patient, don't cheat, but if you do, get right back on the wagon, ask questions, journal, MAKE SURE YOU EAT ENOUGH!!!! If you aren't sure, just e-mail me and I'll be happy to send you some information that others have found helpful:) I'm sure I can think of more, but that's enough for now. Thanks for posting your BIO on the BIO BOARD, I did try to e-mail you to tell you that I edited it and just took out your last name, not that we've ever had a problem, but JUST in case...the e-mail, are you sure it's correct, AOL said no one had that e-mail addy. Once again, WELCOME!!!!

HEART, come to Miami and THEN you can talk about frizz!! I found this IONIC BRUSH at a garage sale - that thing is marvelous! It tames the frizzes - it's so cool! Definitely worth the $1 I paid for it! It's from the Sharper Image. Wish I could find another one, one in the car, one for the house.

Well, I'm debating whether I want to try and get in an evening walk:chin: If I don't go in the next 10 minutes will just have to make it tomorrow morning-will let you know later.



Solly 08-28-2003 05:09 PM

Heading home to walk

It just stormed so maybe it will be cooler again tonite.

Libra, I just turned 50 and after I had lost about 50 lbs of my 100 I realized I needed to start doing something to tone this body. Let me tell you and I can't preach this enough to all the young girls out there, after 50 the skin doesn't go back. No matter how much exercise you do. The only solution is snip-snip. So lose the weight while you are young and have some elasticity in your skin. My advice to you is to get into wt training to tone as much as you can along the way. Hopefully you won't look like me. I need a face lift starting with my knees up! :yikes:

Pancho, our bodies are strange beings. That is why you can't worry too much about the daily fluctuations of the scale. I totally agree with yu on WW. I have done it many times, even got to goal twice. Even though I would make good choices (and some nto so good) I never changed my eating habits. Therefore, I would put the weight right back on. At least with SB, I think about what I am eating (even though it may not be good). That Perfect Food sounds strange. Maybe we could all just take a yellow pill, red pill, etc and we wouldn't have to eat food. :chin:

Deb, it just seems that your GF would be loney there not knowing anyone or anything. Especially with his poor health. Maybe he will change his mind. It could just be the grief over the loss of this wife making him do this.

Laurieann, Welcome to this great board. You will gets lots of support and help here. You are smart to get rid of that wt before you start having health problems. That’s what scared me into starting. Obstacles are different for all of us. Mine are salty things ( and alcohol) but others find chocolate a big one. Some people have troulbe with giving up potatoes. You sound like you are ready to jump into this with both feet. I wish you the best of luck.

Have a great evening.


Debelli 08-28-2003 05:13 PM

IF YOU DID NOT get an e-mail from me today and your name is on the BIO BOARD, please let me know so I can add you in. I go by the BIO BOARD to get the addresses so if you aren't on there, or unless you've e-mailed me directly with your e-mail, I don't have you on my list. I'm trying to get it updated and have people's addresses without a clue of knowing who they belong to. If you did not reply to my e-mail previously then I didn't add you to the new listing, just have you still on the old, but that's not going to last and it will be deleted soon.

If you want to be on my e-mail list, but not on the BIO BOARD, or are on the BIO BOARD and didn't get an e-mail, please e-mail me with your REAL NAME & SCREEN NAME to [email protected]


Ellen 08-28-2003 05:44 PM

Quick post again. I was off today...until about 9:15 when my daughter called me and begged me to come in. One of the decorators had called in sick and they were swamped. I went in and made 1/4 sheet cakes all day. I think I decorated about 25 of them, but I swear people were buying them faster than I could get them done and into the case! It was wild! At least when I left there was about 12 in the case. It took me all day too. Customers kept coming up and asking questions, and I had to wait on them first.

My daugher and her hubby left for their vacation to Florida. They are going to Crystal River for a week.

I feel like someone beat me with a baseball bat, and then stomped on me to boot. I already took a handful of Ibuprofen, but I don't feel much better. Tonight may be a night for dinner out. I am going to have to think how I can talk Tom into it! ;)

Its thundering something fierce here. The sun is shining, though. I wish it would rain, and storm. We need the rain!

Be back later. I guess its time for a nap!

laurieann227 08-28-2003 05:45 PM

Laurie - howdy, neighbor! I live in Richland, which is south of Jackson. Thanks for the encouragement. I appreciate it. I'm excited to finally figure out my way back here, LOL. I was looking for my post and it dawned on me to check the pages at the end. I'll catch on.....

As for the hair - give it up, girl. This Mississippi humidity screams "Frizzy" for all of us!


Ellen 08-28-2003 05:46 PM

PANCHO: Thanks for the info. I will check out the website this evening!

laurieann227 08-28-2003 05:48 PM

Deb, thanks for the welcome and the invite. I'll go back and check the e-mail addy. It should read [email protected] What I put may have been totally different given my stress level from yesterday, ha ha.

Any info is much appreciated. I'll be looking for the book.

Triscuits. That's gonna come as close to crackers - I love crackers. I am so thankful I can have wheat bread - now I just have to learn the brands and stick with it.

Thanks for the welcome - and the encouragement and advice.

Toni48 08-28-2003 05:58 PM

shHowdy everyone.... Its getting closer and closer to that three day week-end. Our little town, pop. 520 gets packed with tourists. We have two rivers and theres allot of floating canoes and camping going on. After this week-end it will quiet down...

Jack-K- Great on your walking. You're going to get your week in.. And do great over the holiday. Oh please don't say snip snip.... Are you sure it doesn't go back to tight and toned, LOL.....

Libra- We're about 80 miles from the Arkansas border. I go to see my sis about every other week and she lives about 60 miles from here and then its just a hop skip and jump away. I'm 55 and lose weight slow too...

Pancho- What a great post. I really enjoyed reading it. I can't get all those vegetables in so I'm going to look for that stuff called Perfect Food. Do you think I can find it at the health food store? I hadn't eaten much today and ran and got me something SB legal today. Thanks again for the great tips.

Debilli- Sorry you didn't get your walk in. Sounds like you had a heck of a storm. I think you're getting Missour's rain and I want it back!!!

Laurieann-A great big welcome to SB.... We're so glad you're here. And you'll love it. This is the best bunch of ladies and they're just full of words of wisdom and support!!! I just started back after being gone and gaining back allot of what I lost. SB is the best life style eating I've ever found. And have I ever tried them all!!! Don't look at the numbers, just take each day, each hour at a time. The first week or two is usually the hardest or it is to me cause my body is getting rid of the cravings... But then you adjust and it becomes a way of life. So hop on with us and lets lose some weight....

heartmom- Marinaded chicken sounds mmm mmm good. If your friends don't come you have lunch for next week. I'll bet that was the chili making you retain fluid.

fruitloupe 08-28-2003 06:00 PM

Hey just popping in and skimmed the posts. Sounds like everyone is doing wonderful!

TONI: Girl...I have more beads than you can even imagine. I ride in Mardi Gras - you should see the upstairs of my house - FULL of beads - any kind you want!

JACK-K: What are the dates of your visit? If there isn't an LSU game - we can definitely meet up! That would be a blast! As for legal pizza????? I have no clue - when I go to New Orleans..."legal" isn't on my mind - sorry! :)

Off to pack for the weekend...see y'all Sunday!


Pancho 08-28-2003 07:46 PM

Hello all:

I've had a busy day, but got a lot accomplished.

laurie: WELCOME TO OUR WORLD!! You will do great, and will find a load of information and support here. We all pretty much meet up over here, that way it saves us time skimming trhough everywhere else. I didn't really encounter too many obstacles. I did Atkins first for two months, so SB was a very welcome change to me and allowed me a lot of freedom that didn't leave me feeling deprived at all. We are glad to have you here, and hope to hear from you often.

Deb: The Perfect food is supposed to have fiber in it as well. I'm not going to replace my greens with it, just supplement from time to time. I had a large caesar salad for lunch and will probably have green beans & salad for dinner. I also had some grapes & cantaloupe, so today would be a day I wouldn't take any. Besides, you can't get too many greens in, right? Glad you didn't take your walk; you made the right call today. Maybe it will be dry tomorrow a.m. and you can walk then. We'll give you an A for effort though.

Jack: I like food too much to give it up. BUT there are days that I know I don't get enough veggies in (especially when traveling) and it would be nice to keep my body supplied with those greens during those times/days.

Toni: Yes, you can find it at certain health food store; I'd call around. I, of course, ordered mine online; it's so much easier than dragging kids out for one more errand. You can read up on it at http://risingstarlc.com/perfect.htm. That gives the basic info. you'd need.

A mom in my MOMS Club was selling a large Little Tikes kitchen for $20. It is in excellent condition, so I bought it as a joint gift for the girls for Christmas; I just have to find a place to hide it now (it's 42" tall in the tallest section and 40" wide). She is going to throw in some dishes as well. I will get some pretend food and a shopping cart, and they will love it! What a bargain for $20.

Hmmmmm.....that is probably all for now. I hope you all have a great Thursday evening and I will check in in the a.m.

See ya!

Solly 08-29-2003 08:49 AM


Wow not many posts to catch up with today.

Got my walk in last night and my wt training. But didn't get to walk this morning. DH went in 1/2 hour later so he wanted some breakfast. So today will be my day off. Don't know if I willget in any walking this weekend. THey are calling for rain today thru Monday. :rain: Yuk!

No big plans for the long weekend. Happy hour tonight, but I have already decided I am drinking ice tea. Iam determined to get through this weekend, totally legal. Of course the big game UK-UL is Sunday night. Haven't heard if anyone is having a get together, but I'm sure someone will. I will plan some legal snacks for it though.

Laurieann, If you have a health food store near you, they should have some ww crackers that are legal.

Monet, sounds like you worked your butt off. Get some rest. Sweet of you to go in and help out.

Toni, sorry to burst your bubble, but snip-snip is the only solution unless your are 35.

Fruit, I have a whole bag full of beads too. I'm sure you have lots more. This morning I fixed DH some juice and the cup was one from Mardi Gras. Made me think of you. We will be arriving Oct 9th thru the 15th. Hope we can work something out.

Pancho, wow, what a bargain. My girls always loved kitchen stuff and the play food. I'm sure yours will too.

Got to run, we have 2 people to interview today. Hope to be back later.


Debelli 08-29-2003 09:07 AM

Good Friday Morning Everyone!:wave:

Was a good morning, was able to get in my 4.5 miles early because ELI had to be at work the same time I go to drop the kids off at school so he took them and I was able to get out of the house earlier. On another good note, I did get out last night, very unsual for me, and got in 3.5 miles. I was tired and didn't feel like going 4.5, esp when I knew in a matter of 12 hours I'd be doing it again-better than nothing!!;)

Thought I'd post my menu from yesterday. I like doing it once in a while - no one tell me about my lack of veggies, trust me, I know-I had good intentions on fixing something but it never panned out.

6.8oz raspberries
1/2 c cottage cheese
sf jello cup
6.5oz cactus pears
Shelton's Pot Pie
1 low-carb waffle
2.5oz fresh figs
1 Tbl PB flour
1 sl sf bread
1 c xtra calcium ff milk
1 tsp carob
sf jello cup
1oz 75% lf cheese
2oz pastrami
3oz chicken breast
33gr lfsf bacon
1 sl sf bread
1oz 75% lf cheese
1 small plum tomato
1 piece lettuce

I had approx 1350 calories, right on the mark with my fat, should be 45, I consider the 47 close enough, tad below on the carbs, a little high on the protein and a whopping 32.5 grams of fiber. Just imagine if I had eaten some decent veggies - no dookie house problems here! I filled all the "suggested recommended daily servings" I should have, with exception to the 2 veggies, though I went a tad over the 3 servings of fruit I should have - I'm happy:D

Heard from SERENE, she wanted to tell everyone she sends her hellos and that she and TRANQUIL have been REALLY busy at work, that she has a lot of crap going on at home between the kids and her divorce proceedings, but hopes to be back on the board soon. TRANQUIL is leaving for a 3 day trip to Santo Domingo this weekend, so hope to hear from her as well soon.

Want to get in some replies before the day wears on...

JACKK, first, before I forget to tell you AGAIN, I found those low-carb Wheatstone waffles. I bought the blueberry and the cinammon ones. They were on sale - otherwise I wouldn't of splurged. Questioning if they are truly legal as far as ingredients go, but with in looking at the nutritional info and the ingredients as a whole, they aren't bad. I would eat only 1 instead of the suggested 2 per serving. Did try the blueberry and I liked it a lot, light and fluffy and doesn't need a thing on it. Got me to thinking that maybe, ONE DAY, I'd try to make my own waffles - I sure have enough recipes for that!!! As for my GF, once his mind is made up, it's a done deal, and besides, he's already closed on the house. Now I understand he's having an estate sale next week of all the collectibles in the house. Seems he's just moving full steam ahead!:shrug: Sounds like you are doing great with your exercise AND eating this week. I'm sure you'll do great during happy hour and this weekend-I'm right beside you!:)

MONET, sounds like you've really been busy at work. Oye, you'd appreciate my dedication to Publix bakery after the other day. I went on my way home to see what types of cakes they had for MICHAEL, saw the picture ones and went home, came back with a pic of him, said it was too big, so I went home again, came back with a smaller one, guy cut it too small, went home. Came in next morning and told the guy that we weren't doing a pic (MICHAEL didn't want to waste any more ink or photo paper) and I just picked out a different design. Went back later that morning to pick up the cake. After the first time, each time I went back I asked the guy "did you miss me?" I think it will be an inside joke from here out. What I hate that they've done down here is stopped sending the flyers home in the mail as they use to, now, only if you go to pick one up at the store or by the newspaper do you get one:mad: Wish I could send you some rain - I've had enough!:rain:

LAURIE, I have a recipe for homemade Triscuits - have never made them though, but YOU may want to try your hand at it. See if you can find BARBARA'S WW CRACKERS in your local HFS, they are VERY good. There are other crackers out there as well that are SB LEGAL - just have to see what's available in your area.

TONI, if I could, I would send your rain back, but I've promised ours to MONET;) Sounds like a fun weekend in your town-I remember you mentioning it last year.

FRUIT, think of me, think of us, think of how good you're doing and you just MIGHT think of LEGAL when you go in to NO;) That would be GREAT if you and JACKK could meet up, then maybe I'd FINALLY see a picture of her (and you of course).

PANCHO, thanks for the "A" for effort, I think I actually deserved it between yesterday and today. I really have no room to talk about veggies, I hate making them, not so much as eating them, just hate to cook them - heck, I hate to cook anything! I'm trying to change that and find new interesting ways to cooks some favorites though - it will take me some time, so no "A" in effort in that dept just yet;)

I'm caught up so I'm going to get going and find some FRIDAY FUNNIES to post for today.

Will check in a bit later!




Debelli 08-29-2003 09:21 AM

I think I may have posted this long ago, but just in case...

Leroy is a 20 year-old 5th grader. This is Leroy's Ebonics homework assignment. He must use each vocabulary word in a sentence:

1. Foreclose
If I pay alimony today, I got no money foreclose.

2. Rectum
I had two Cadillacs, but my b:censored:ch rectum both.

3. Hotel
I gave my girlfriend crabs, and the hotel everybody.

4. Disappointment
My parole officer tol' me if I miss disappointment they gonna send me back to the joint.

5. Penis
I went to the doctors and he handed me a cup and said penis.

6. Israel
Tito tried to sell me a Rolex. I say, "Man, it look fake." He say, "Bullshit, that watch israel".

7. Catacomb
I saw Don King at da fight the other night. Man, somebody get that catacomb.

8. Undermine
There's a fine lookin' ho living in the apartment undermine.

9. Acoustic
When I was little, my uncle bought me acoustic and took me to the pool hall.

10. Iraq
When we got to the pool hall, I tol' my uncle iraq, you break.

11. Stain
My mother-in-law stopped by and I axed her, "Do you plan on stain for dinner?"

12. Seldom My cousin gave me tickets to the Nicks game, so I seldom.

13. Honor
At the rape trial, the judge axed my buddy, "Who was honor first?

14. Dictate
My girfriend say my dictate good.

15. Odyssey
I tol' my brother, "You odyssey the t:censored:ts on that ho!"

16. Axe
After school today, the police want to axe me some questions.

17. Fortify
I axed this ho on da street, "How much?" she say "fortify."

18. Income
I just got in bed wif da ho and income my wife.

Debelli 08-29-2003 09:22 AM


A man left work one Friday afternoon. But instead
of going home, he stayed out the entire weekend,
hunting with the boys and spending his entire paycheck.

When he finally appeared at home Sunday night, he
was confronted by his very angry wife and was
barraged for nearly 2 hours with a tirade about his

Finally his wife stopped the nagging and simply
said to him, "How would you like it if you didn't
see me for 2 or 3 days?"

To which he replied, 'That would be fine with me."

Well, Monday went by and he didn't see his wife.
Tuesday and Wednesday came and went and he
didn't see her. On Thursday, the swelling went
down just enough where he could see her a little
out of the corner of his left eye.

Debelli 08-29-2003 09:27 AM

A Few Quickies !
Two friends were discussing popular family trends on sex, marriage, and values. Stu said, "I didn't sleep with my wife before we got married, did you?"

Leroy replied, "I'm not sure, What was her maiden name?"


A little boy went up to his father and asked: "Dad, where did all of my intelligence come from?

The father replied: "Well, son, you must have gotten it from your mother, 'cause I still have mine."


"Mr. Clark, I have reviewed this case very carefully,"the divorce court judge said, "and I've decided to give your wife $775 a week."

"That's very fair, your honor," the husband said. "And every now and then I'll try to send her a few bucks myself."


A businessman entered a tavern, sat down at the bar, and ordered a double scotch on the rocks. After he finished the drink, he peeked inside his shirt pocket, then he ordered another double scotch. After he finished that one, he again peeked inside his shirt pocket and ordered another double scotch.

Finally, the bartender said, "Look, buddy, I'll bring you drinks all night long. But you gotta tell me why you look inside your shirt pocket before you order another."

The customer replied, "I'm looking at a photo of my wife. When she starts to look good, then I know it's time to go home."


A doctor examined a woman, took the husband aside, and said, "I don't like the looks of your wife at all."

"Me either doc." said the husband.

"But she's a great cook and really good with the kids."


An old man goes to the Wizard to ask him if he can remove a curse he has been living with for the last 40 years.

The Wizard says, ! "Maybe, but you will have to tell me the exact words that were used to put the curse on you."

The old man says without hesitation, "I now pronounce you man and wife."

angehaley 08-29-2003 09:54 AM

Hello Ladies…..
I am gonna try my hand at this thing called a computer….. Gotten over my “anger” (which was with myself…….. Over not having a clue about the computer… and what I did to ERASE A HUGE POST)
OK, I am better…. Not ONE more word about it!!!!!!!!!! Promise!!!

Let me start out by saying….. I COULD JUST KISS ALL OF YOU WHO TALK ABOUT SHELTON’S POT PIES……… I finally found them… and one is in the oven (can’t believe they take a whole hour to cook….. Will have to be more prepared next time…) but OH MY GOSH DOES IT SMELL GOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!! YAHOOO…. SOMETHING GOOD TO EAT!!!!


JACK-K - can’t believe you are weighing BUT NOT TELLING….!!! :0 That phrase took me back to my childhood!!! J very cute….

TYSGRAMMY - Keep that pretty little head of your up….. YOU CAN’T LOOSE 8 LB’S A WEEK… YOU WOULD WITHER AWAY TO NOTTA…..!!!! You are doing a FABULOUS JOB…. Keep up the good work!!!!

DEB- You are doing so awesome…… wow how do get so close to your mark on #’s…..? I have been journaling, but for now just eating what I normally do to get used to it… then will try and get to the right #’S THAT YOU GAVE ME…..P.S is the home made triscuits recipe on the board????

PANCHO - The “perfect food” sounds pretty cool… let us know how it goes!!

FRUIT - You sound like you know how to have a good time!!! Do you show your BOOBIES??? Ha.ha.ha…. Have fun… and try to be somewhat LEGAL!!!

TONI - Your LITTLE sounds beautiful… I went to school in Austin, but, lived in San Marcos a little town bet Austin & San Antonio… and It had the Guadalupe a huge river that everyone floated too…. WAY TOO MUCH FUN (ESP. when you rent a cool… to FLOAT your beer down with you!!!! )

LAURIE - WELCOME TO THE BOARD… I too am a NEWBIE…. Just wanted to say… sit down, stay awhile… and LEARN A TON FROM THE GIRLS WITH TONZ ‘O KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THIS WOE!!!!! PRETTY IMPRESSIVE what a gal can learn !!!!!!!!!! Good luck to you … and can’t wait to get to know you…! Also, congrats on getting a hold of your health, before it gets a hold of you!!!!

MONET - WOOOOOOOOOOW, sounds like you were NEEDED AT WORK IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE!!!!!!!! You are soooo awesome for lending TWO HANDS ON YOUR DAY OFF!!!!!!!! I know your daughter is sooo happy to have you as a MOMMY!!!! You are such a caring / giving person… reminds me of my own mommy!!!! J Keep up the good work!!!

HEART - I ditto your sentiments on the way the world is going right now….. Just pitiful!!!!

BASHFUL - Good luck in whatever decision you make….. And remember YOU CAN DO IT, ONE DAY AT A TIME!!

LIBRA - Repeat after me…. “Hi my name is Marilyn AND I AM A SLOW LOSER!”
I too am a slow loser… Just gotta deal with it… and remember that it will STAY OFF better (so they say) if we lose it slow!!! J For the non sagging…. Uhm… I am 31 & I already have some issues with my saggy belly….(I do have a 6 month baby, but STILL DON’T THINK IT WILL EVER BE THE SAME….)

Well… hope that I got everyone… and got all caught up…
Hope you all have a wonderful OP weekend!!!!

PS. since I started this post yesterday... I have since EATEN my pot p and boy-o-boy was it YUMMY IN MY TUMMY.... I felt like I was cheating the whole time:s:

Take care of yourselves....

angehaley 08-29-2003 09:57 AM

Deb - thanks for the ff's.... I LOVED the eubonics!!!!!


beachfan37 08-29-2003 10:01 AM

Hi all!

I'm off today so I get a 4 day weekend. I'm doing ok...out of my blue funk and trying to have a good weekend. We'll go to the highschool football game tonight which will be fun. Hubby and son are now sick. Must be a virus going around. Daughter and I have a little sinus problems but for the most part we are not getting the virus.

Kids are struggling to get back into the school routine. High School is tough and balancing all of the work and being social creatures is tougher!

I'm staying on track. Just don't have the patience like I use to. Want all of the weight off NOW. I know that's not possible. But I just am so mad that I lost all of that weight and put it back on. I was 168 this morning which should make me feel better but I use to be 138! So I'm basically still only 1/2 my way to where I should be!

Deb...you're doing great on the walking. I don't even have the same patience for that. I've been trying to get in 40-50 minutes of walking a day. Last night I went to the track and instead walked and ran so I could get it over with. I went 3 miles but gosh...I'm not sure why I'm so impatient! Plus I it was so hot and humid...it was not the smart thing to do.

Jack-k...I know what you mean about the skin. I was at the gyno the other day and she said...when we do that hysterectomy...you'll need a tummy tuck! I knew that but boy lying on my back hearing that from her was a little unnerving!

Laurie WELCOME...you can do this and it will be the best thing you have ever done for yourself!

Monet...I call that dedication to go in and help like you did. Hope your manager appreciated it!

Fruit...take care on Bourbon street. It should be wild. Did you ever find out if you can have alcohol and the zoloft...I would hate for that to mess you up. I'm glad you were able to get something to help you. I periodically go through what I call blue funks...my family calls it something worst. There is nothing worse than feeling like you are in a deep hole and just wishing to stay there. Take care. You've been doing great.

Pancho...one of our favorite Christmases was the year we gave my daughter the little tykes kitchen. She had many many years of fun with it. Just watch out...my son actually put water in it to wash the dishes...and my daughter tried to cook with my four when I wasn't looking...it was a flour mess!

Toni...we had such a storm the other day that I honestly thought it was a tornado...If I could, I would send you our rain!


Pancho 08-29-2003 11:27 AM

Good Friday morning:

Well, I woke up to a pleasant surprise (123.5 on the scale). It was actually 123.0 when I first got on this morning, but once I got the kids fed and drank some water myself, I was up to 123.5. The only reason I even got back on was because I took my camera in to take a picture of it to send to my mom and sis. Pretty corny, but fun! They get occasional pictures of my toes on a scale with a number on it; for all they know, they aren't even my toes (ha).

My DH & DD have a three day weekend, so I probably won't be on the computer too much over the weekend, unless I can sneak in at some point. I am going to try to get to the gym today when DD is in school, as long as youngest DD co-operates. I will then go again tomorrow a.m., and Monday a.m. (since hubby off work). My hubby and I did our abdominal tape on Wed. night and will do it again tonight and once over the weekend.

Jack: Good luck at Happy hour and for the game Sunday. You'll do fine as long as you plan for it, and it sounds as if you are good at that!

Deb: Way to knock that walk out early in the day; it sure helps get your day off on the right track. I would go to the gym every morning if I could. I would walk early before hubby goes to work, but it's dark and we have a lot of wildlife out here, so I don't chance it. We live in a rural area outside of town. Too many coyotes for my liking. Good eating!! Thanks for the FF; I haven't seen them before.

Angehaley: I feel your frustration. I am pretty wordy, as you may have figured out by now, and I have lost a few posts too. It's a bummer. How did you like the Pot Pie? I like them better than any of the regular ones I've had before. They sure fill me up too. I usually have one and a large salad, and it makes for a great dinner on nights I don't want to cook. My hubby likes them too, but I try to hide them in the freezer so he doesn't eat my stash (ha).

beach: Hope you and DD stay well. Have fun at the game. I am going to call my old high school and see when their homecoming game is; it would be fun to take the girls. I've been out of school now for 17 years, and have only been to 4-5 homecoming games. Be patient with yourself. It took a while to put the weight back on, and it will take longer to take it off. Just bottle up these feelings and your frustration and save it for when you get back to where you are happy, and then make sure you never gain it again. Anytime you feel the urge to splurge, open that little bottle to remind you of how lousy you felt.

Anyone have much experience with Stevia? I'd like to get away from my occasional Splenda snack, but think Stevia powder and liquid is extremely bitter. I've tried it in a few recipes and had to throw it all out.

Also, can you supplement Agave in ANY recipe that calls for Sugar, and are there any adjustments to amounts? The little cheesecakes I make call for 1/4 cup of Splenda granular. I'm wondering if I could substitute 1/4 Agave. Would that be too sweet; would they set up like cheesecake, or be too soggy. This is probably a Deb question, eh?

I'm going to make Salmon, shrimp, rice pilaf (for daughter & hubby), and probably some steamed broccoli for dinner. Believe it or not, that is my DD's favorite meal. Can you imagine a 5-year old who would pick that meal over just about any other??

Well, I will check in when we get home from school/gym before our long weekend gets underway.

Baby just got hurt...gotta go.

Debelli 08-29-2003 11:28 AM

Me again:wave:

Thought I'd take a break and come say hello - board is sure quiet today!

ANGE, glad to hear you found the pot pies, now you can join the crowd when we talk about them and know what we are saying on how delectable they are. You shoud invest in a JET STREAM OVEN, it's the bomb and I wouldn't be without one and ALWAYS have one in reserves for when mine breaks down. I use it all the time and best of all, it only takes 28-30 minutes to cook a pot pie:D Thought the TRISCUIT RECIPE was on the board long ago but I guess I was mistakenand confused, I thought it was a tricuit recipe, but it's actually "WHEAT THINS", sorry 'bout that - but just in case you want the WT recipe, here you go:


1 C WW Flour
1/4 tsp salt
3 Tbsp butter, softened
1/8 teas. baking powder

Put all ingredients in a bowl and mix with fingers. Add enough cold water to get it to stick together. Knead until it has a consistency of an ear lobe. Roll thin and cut into squares. Prick each with a fork. Bake on a greased cookie sheet at 350 until brown and crisp - approx 8-10 minutes. Cool on cake rack.

I'll search, I'm sure somewhere I MUST a recipe for triscuits, or I can find one:) As for getting close to my numbers, doesn't always happen, but sure makes me more aware when I journal. I think knowing the different food groups and the servings of each is helping as well. Glad you liked the pot pie!

BEACH, glad to hear you get 4 days off from work-I know you deserve it. Hope you and DD don't get sick and hope DH and DD get well soon. I know the feeling about not being as patient having to get this weigh off again, maybe we'll learn this time around? It's been hard for me to get back in to walking after being MIA all summer on the streets, and my jogging days seem to be over, just trying to jog across the street before the light turned was hard yesterday:shrug: We both got there before, we'll get there again - together:)

I'm going to get ready and try to get to yoga today. Gosh, I hope they haven't changed anything, I haven't heard a thing from my yoga teacher in over a week, she probably thought I went AWOL!\

Will check in later - at least I know I'll have computer time as the kids' father is taking them out for dinner and I'll have the house to myself:spin:



Debelli 08-29-2003 11:33 AM

Found this article as I was searching the web:

Whole wheat is sometimes only half the story


Always be sure to read the labels to assure that you're getting truly whole grain products.
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Think you're getting whole grains out of the turkey on wheat sandwich you had for lunch? Think again.
Doctors and nutrition experts say you should still load up on whole grain foods, but warn that many items that appear to be chock full of whole grains may not be, if you read the fine print on the food labels.

Whole grain foods tend to be high in fiber, which can reduce blood cholesterol levels and cut down on the production of substances in the body that appear to act as carcinogens and cause cancer, Good Morning America's foods contributor Sara Moulton said. Whole grain also helps keep the digestive system regular, warding off gastrointestinal tract troubles.

The USDA recommends eating a minimum of three servings of whole wheat each day, but a University of Minnesota study that appeared in the July issue of the Journal of the American Dietetic Association found that Americans average a paltry one serving of whole grain foods per day. So how do we get enough?

"You've got to read the labels, not just the packaging," Moulton said. "It's confusing because you see wheat or whole wheat in the title on the packaging of the food product and you assume it has whole grains."

But it may not. The key is making sure that the word "whole" is the first ingredient in the food item. Food label ingredients are listed in descending order by weight. Look for "whole-wheat flour," "whole wheat," "whole grain wheat," "whole oat flour," "whole grain oats," or "100 percent wheat flour" as the first ingredient.

Confusing Labels

On a package of Arnold's Honey Wheat Berry bread, whole wheat is the fourth ingredient listed for the bread, which means it has very little whole wheat in it, and it is not a whole grain food. But Arnold's Whole Wheat bread has whole wheat flour as the first ingredient, meaning it is a whole grain food, because it is the dominant ingredient in the product.

There are other products that appear to be made of whole grain, even though they aren't.

For example, in Kellogg's Nutri-Grain Whole Wheat Waffles, whole wheat is the third ingredient listed. In Wheatsworth's Stone Ground Wheat Crackers, whole wheat is the fourth ingredient. And beware of tags like "multi-grain," "seven-grain" and "nutri-grain," because without whole grain as the top ingredient, they don't cut it as whole grain foods, Moulton said.

Even though the labels are tricky, the companies are in the clear in terms of the claims they make. If the product makes a health claim on the front of the package, as many do now for heart disease or cancer prevention, it need only be 51 percent whole grain by weight.

"As long as the package doesn't say '100 percent whole grain' or '100 percent whole wheat' in the title, they are not making any false claims," Moulton said. "They can just be confusing for the consumer. And it's not bad for you but if you're looking for whole grain you've got to know what to look for."

Getting Three a Day

It's easy to get three servings of whole grain a day, in breakfast, lunch or snacks. Here are Moulton's tips:

Bread: Look for "whole" as the first ingredient, or "100 percent whole grain" in the title. If you do not like crusty bread, choose soft whole grain bread like Wonder. The crusty texture is because of the way it is baked, and is not because of the grain used.

Cereals: Cereal is also an excellent way to get whole grains into your diet. But be careful?some aren't as good as others. For example, Post Raisin Bran is a whole grain food, with whole grain as its first ingredient, but Kellogg's Raisin Bran contains no whole grains, though it does contain vitamins, minerals and bran. Other whole grain cereals include: Cheerios, Kellogg's Mini-Wheats, Quaker Toasted Oatmeal Squares and General Mills Wheat Chex. Oatmeal is another whole grain cereal, though the other hot cereals may not be.

Crackers: Triscuits is one brand that has whole wheat as its first ingredient.

Soups and Bars: Barley soups, Health Valley Breakfast Bars, and Power Bar Harvest Whole Grain Energy Bar are good sources of whole grain.

Snacks: Air-popped popcorn or microwave popcorn are made from whole grain (of corn).

Pasta and Rice: Substitute whole wheat pasta and brown rice for the other varieties.

heartmom 08-29-2003 12:12 PM

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GatorGal 08-29-2003 12:16 PM

Hi all,
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I've been so busy--up to my eyeballs in work. The french class is great, but it sure adds a lot of requirements to my days.
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