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Debelli 01-07-2002 06:04 AM

Sugar Busters Weekly Support Board 1/6-1/13
This is the SUGAR BUSTERS WEEKLY SUPPORT BOARD where all of you who are following this WOE, or are thinking about doing so, are welcome to come join in and be a part of our wonderful group.

Other than finding support and friendship on this board, we also try to do something during the the week to add a little difference to our board.


Please visit our NEW 2002 BIO BOARD where you can learn more about everyone who is on this board:

Please make sure you post your BIO on the LATEST VERSION of our BIO BOARD everyone!!!!

Our JANAURY/FEBRUARY/MARCH 2002-FIRST QUARTER RECIPE BOARD can be located at the link below:

We have NINE INFORMATIVE BOARDS!!!! Please take a few minutes to visit them! New information is continually being posted, so please make sure you visit them often!!!





and our newest board MY FAVORITE SB LEGAL FOODS

We also now have a SB WEEKLY EXERCISE BOARD that you can log your daily/weekly exercises on:

Want to post your weigh in results, we have a MONTHLY WEIGH IN BOARD at the link below:

DO YOU HAVE A MONTHLY GOAL? Post your End of Month Goal on our new GOAL BOARD at the link below:

VISIT OUR NEW SUGAR BUSTERS 2001 PICTURE GALLERY at the link below. You can upload pictures or post links to pictures on this board:)

NEWBIES! (aka new members) If you would like to REPLY to any of our threads, please hit NEW REPLY not NEW THREAD, then type your message in and hit SUBMIT REPLY. If you need to edit your reply, just click on edit located in the body of your post and make changes as you need to, then hit SUBMIT NOW.


Debelli 01-07-2002 06:13 AM


Will post my morning post sometime later, it's bound to be a biggie!!! Just wanted to make sure I got our MOTIVATIONAL MONDAY done early in the morning, so here's my contribution for MM:



There's a simple thing you can do that will dramatically improve the results of your actions. And that is to consider their consequences.

Everything you do is going to produce some specific consequence. Even the thoughts you think have their consequences. All those consequences are in the future. Yet all too often you base your thoughts and actions primarily on what has happened in the past. Does that really make sense?

Your thoughts and actions will have no effect whatsoever on the past. Their consequences will be in the future. So when you take action, take it with an eye toward the future, not the past. You cannot change the past, and you cannot avoid changing the future. The question is, what's that future going to look like?

That depends on how carefully you consider the future consequences of your actions. You have the power to choose the very best of those consequences by virtue of the way you think and act right now.

Decide to actively choose your consequences every chance you get. The next time you feel compelled to take some particular action, stop and ask yourself what the consequences will be. That brief moment of consideration can make a world of difference in the kind of future you create for yourself.

-- Ralph Marston
Have a wonderful day, a fabulous week!!!!!

SB since 3/22/00
Reached goal 6/10/01

Debelli 01-07-2002 06:19 AM

To better help you answer this weeks poll, here's a link to the week we asked the question. :)

Zanne 01-07-2002 06:53 AM

Well, we finally got some snow! After coming home from the folks place last night, DH, DS and I had a wee snowball fight when we got out of the car. DS is 4, and thought this was the greatest thing. We'll see how long it lasts. The last forcast I heard said it may get over 34 degrees today--all the white stuff may melt!

Well, I think I'm gonna jump in and take the Body For Life (BFL) challenge. What the heck. I've got nothing to lose except inches!;) A couple of the weight moves use machines, so I had to search out moves that worked the same muscle groups using dumbbells. It's only for 12 weeks and would finish up right around my birthday, so good health and fitness would be a great present to myself. I will still do SB WOE.

Sounds like all who went to WDW had a wonderful time and way too much food. Some really yummy sounding food! Can you post some recipes, PLEASE??? Hope y'all didn't end up catching anything from being out in the cold rain.

FROG Was thinking of you and Mr. Frog yesterday. Kept lurking on the board for updates. How did you do? As long as you did the best you could, that's what counts. And you didn't have the greatest of weather. Not very nice to run in cold rain. Hope you've been pampering yourself and keeping nice and cozy. Looking forward to you telling us all about it.

BOB Glad you're home safe and sound.

ROSALIE I don't like yogurt either, but when blended with everything else, I couldn't taste the yogurt.

MELIRIS Are you starting BFL today??

HELLO to all I've missed. I'm afraid to try to peek at the old board to review the posts in case I lose all that I've already typed.

Talk to y'all later.

Mel 01-07-2002 09:17 AM

Real quickie, will post more later but wanted to replay to Zanne:
Yes, I did my first BFL upper body workout today, and am also staying SB WOE. That free day thing scares me silly. I'll keep it legal!!!
I had a hard time figuring out a workout too, the "customized program" the site gave be included several machines and I refuse to budge out of my own free weight room at home. I have barbells, dumbells and a bench with leg extensions, but no decline bench. May have to get one for Mother's Day! I miss my usual full body workout- don't feel like I quite did it all if I don't get lower body too! Also I don't think I quite got the amount of weights right, cause it wasn't all that difficult. But I have tennis this afternoon, so I'll see if I can lift my arms by then. Do you want to compare workouts and see if that helps us? The site and book are pretty vague about actual #'s. email me if you want.

Hello everybody else. Hope Orlando was ablast for all- You still alive and kicking FROG?


SolShine 01-07-2002 09:21 AM


Susanne – I think almost ALL the recipes from the brunch came from the board! And, you’re abolutely right – it was all VERY YUMMY!! Not one person went home hungry and the host and hostess have lunches for a MONTH! (Thanks to everyone for leaving us the leftovers! :D ) I had crustless spinach quiche for breakfast, hummus for mid morning snack and pasta for lunch – ALL leftovers!

FROG AND MR. FROG Kicked Boooo-teeeeee in the marathon!! They finished in 6:06 – official results from the Disney website. They averaged a 14 minute mile – pretty darn good pace for 26.5 miles! BTW, THAT’S IN THE TOP ½ OF ALL THE MARATHONERS ON SUNDAY!! THOSE MEDALS ARE BIG!!! I’m sooo proud of them! I can’t tell you how cold and wet it was while DEBBIE and ELI and I were waiting to cheer them on at the 20 mile mark! I think that rain would’ve been enough to make me want to quit – but throw in freezing cold and fierce winds - :eek: Y’all would have been so inspired to see them! They didn’t even look tired – DEBBIE took lots of pictures and got them smiling and still bouncing at the 20 mile mark. How FROG managed to still look so good at that point I’ll never understand.

Debbie and I got up dark and early at some ungodly hour to wave our flourescent batons in the dark along the starting line. We were rewarded by getting to snap a fresh picture of FROG and MR. FROG as they began their daunting task. Then we picked up Eli for breakfast and another trek out to see our favorite marathoners. The race seemed to be going smoother than the spectator traffic as we tried to get to the finish line. We were turned away from Epcot and had to go to the Magic Kingdom to catch the monorail to the finish line. We missed seeing them cross the finish line, but they said they were so tired that it might have been a good thing that we missed them so that they could scoot quickly to the hotel for a well-earned hot shower and nap. Debbie and Eli got to see them later in the evening and I hope to see them again at least once before they leave town.

I’m so inspired! If you want to find that motivation for working out – adopt a marathoner. FROG has been filling us in all year on her preparations and training and we’ve been able to encourage and rejoice with her on her successes. Seeing her and all the other people you know have been planning and working all year for this one day – this one challenge (ALL KINDS, SIZES, SHAPES, AGES OF PEOPLE) and the family and friends there to cheer them on is thrilling! I got choked up seeing people crying as they crossed the finish line and their co-horts hugging them and the pride as they exited the runners area with those huge gold medals around their necks. They set a daunting goal, worked toward it and reaped the rewards for their efforts. Amazing! Amazing goal!

I’ll warn you now that our fearless leader is speaking of a challenge for all of us for next year. Everyone of us should plan to meet in O-Town next year to participate in the marathon, the half-marathon or the full cheering section! We could plan a little better for the spectator areas to spread people out so that at every other viewing area we would have someone cheering the participants on. We have some good ideas for our garb and how to find each other. So just to encourage you and get you thinking and planning………….

Registration for the 2003 Walt Disney World Marathon and Half Marathon, scheduled for Jan. 12, 2003, will begin on March 1, 2002. Information will be available on line at www.disneyworldsports.com. Special 2003 Walt Disney World Resort Marathon Packages will be available by calling 407/939-7810.

If money is an issue we have plenty of floor space at Chez SolShine for one loaf of Zucchini Bread or Starbucks Coffee.


The Ninth Running of the Walt Disney World Marathon & Half Marathon
2002 Marathon Season Off to a Good Start!

by Larry Eder
January 6, 2002
Lake Buena Vista, FLA
California Track & Running News/For the Running Network
The 2002 Marathon season is off to a great start with the ninth running of the Walt Disney Marathon & Half-Marathon. Over 13,500 marathoners and 5,000 half-marathoners toed the starting line of this, the ninth running of the Walt Disney World Marathon & Half Marathon.

The Fourth Wave of Running
Lake Buena Vista, FLA
As we watched the entire field run though the Epcot Center, first the runners, then the run/walkers, then the walkers, we marvelled at how the sport has changed in just the past nine years. And in many ways, the Walt Disney World Marathon has forcasted and reacted well to the changes in the sport and the world of running.
The sport of running is in what I would call the fourth wave, and it is a good, healthy place for our sport to be. The first wave was pretty male dominated, and 'more miles the better', never walk, go as fast as you can, and anything else be damned. Runners in the early and mid seventies were always trying to convert someone else to the sport. No pain, no gain.
The problem was, lots were hurt, and by the mid eighties, the press was giving running a real wacking. What many runners had missed was that the second wave, or the aerobic and walking scene was about to give running a second life. Women came into the sport, but, with a higher level of fitness and came from aerobics to walking to running, and guess, what? They stayed with the sport.
The third wave was what scared the running community. Guys like Jeff Galloway, a 1972 Olympian must have felt like a lone voice in the wind. He suggested walking breaks in your runs. I remember being with him in 1986 at the Charleston 15 miler, where he ran 1:26, and he confided in me that he was running four days a week. That was heresy! He and guys like Joe Henderson were the whipping boys of the purists.
Well, Galloway was right. Walking can enhance running. Don't get me wrong. Guys traiing for 27 minutes 10ks don't use walking much in their workouts, but masters can sure us it in long runs and break three hours, or whatever their goals are. Galloway and Bingham, and the training groups have demystified the sport, and it is better for it.
Guys like John Bingham, aka the Penguin, have taken Walt Stack, an early running stalwart from the San Francisco Bay Area, whose famous line was'-Start Slow and Taper Off' would have loved the Disney Marathon this year-because people are encouraged to break three hours, run five hours, run/walk seven hours, whatever they want, as long as they MOVE. You can be a racer, a jogger, a run/walker, a hiker, or just a moving human being.
This is the fourth wave, and it is getting guys like me to return to the sport. I started walking two months ago after promising to run/walk Columbus next year, and realized quickly what I was missing. The hour that I take at ten at night is mine, and I sometimes share it with my son, Adam, but it shows me that if I take my time, loose the weight I want to do, I will become active again.
The walkers, runner/walkers-running fusionists?-are active and that is what Disney is about. The truth of the matter is that marathoning has come of age. Yes, Boston, Chicago, New York need fast times, and quality supporting events, but at Walt Disney World Marathon & Half Marathon, a 2:32:38 by Dai Roberts, or the return win of 2:48:38 of Ilda Santos is seen for what it is by the 18,500 starters and the thousands of fans-performances by humans that are pretty darn impressive!
After having had cold weather, warm weather and everything in between, the rain and wind gusts started about three hours into the Marathon( remember, average field time here is about 5:25), yet, they kept coming, and coming...
I will end with the category winners, and part two will be on the rest of the story (sorry Paul Harvey)...
Half Marathon-Men Gabriel Rodriguiez-1:09:97
Half Marathon-Women Monica Hostetler-1:17:34
Marathon-Men Dai Roberts, Scotland, age 40-2:32:38
Marathon-Women Ilda Santos, Brazil, age 20-2:48:38

Okay, I have to really get back to work, but I just had to weigh in on the fun and great fellowship we had this week-end. If you ever have the opportunity to get together with some of the wonderful women on this board I highly recommend it! It’s like seeing long lost cousins – you don’t have to “get to know” each other at all – you just pick up in person where you left off in cyberspace.

:wave: Have a great day everyone!

Rhroo 01-07-2002 09:42 AM

Good Monday Morning. A New Day a new week! Well yesterday started the week-that was a blow out for me! LOL I didn't feel well most of the day and when i was ready to eat i was starving-first to the store! Man i hate those days! Hubby didn't feel well and must have beathed all over me! HOw rude! I guess i will just have to see what damage was done on WEnds. Not much i am sure just being tough on myself----Its funny how much we think about what we put in our traps when we want to be on program! Anyway my week end was not to exciting. Not as exciting as the FLA. groups was! Sounds like you all had a great time. I will be looking for the pics. Meal sounded awsome too!
We got some snow the A.M and the kids had a delay from school 2 hrs!! I got some extra sleep and my little one has NO school so i have to get motivated to move my butt!
I have to go to my job tonight for a "back to duty" training! how fun 5:00 till 1:30 I don't know if i will survive! I am dreading going back to working nights M-F, but dread starving too!

Zanne- I did give you a link to a womans site who just finished the BFL she has lost alot of weight before she did this challange maybe that would be of intrest to you. here is the site. http://robynanderson.com/ofb/ just go to the current journal and click to see her pics its a good site she cracks me up.
I myself am sticking to my little weights and my new ankle weights i got for xmas! I can hardly handle the SB plan never mind Bill Phillips!!! there are alot of amazing storys in his book (which i read) and on his site.

well gotta goooo and get motivated. Be good !!!!


Zanne 01-07-2002 10:30 AM

Better get in my replies while I can
Good Morning again! Sun is shining brightly now. Supposed to be about 20 degrees (a little lower than I thought!!!) but with the wind supposed to feel like ZERO!!!:eek: May venture out in the backyard anyway.

Rhroo Thanks! I did look up that link. She is a hoot! I have it bookmarked to go back to.

SolShine I'll have to study the recipe boards more closely. I made the hummus last week. Yum-my! The quiche sounds good too. Oh heck, everything sounded sooooo good! I'll have to start a binder to put all the recipes in. Sounds like you guys had a great time and how wonderful you were for staying out in the cold rain! Frog and the Mr. had a great finish time. Don't think I could do that.

Meliris I haven't peeked at the LBWO yet. I don't have the book, I'm getting stuff off the site. I better look at it today cause I might have to pick up a few more weights. We only have dumbbells, so I probably have to get some plates to throw on for the leg curls. DH doesn't do lower body, so we took that part off the bench. I better finish cleaning out the basement and then check out the LBWO. I'd love to compare workouts. I'm pretty much a beginner at weights, so I don't know how much I could help you, but I'd appreciate your expert help. I'll email you when I get it done--may not be till much later today.

Well, better finish cleaning up the basement. I've got snow to play in and a workout to do!

Debelli 01-07-2002 10:33 AM

Good Morning Again!:wave:

WARNING!This is going to be a mightly long post!!!!

Just got in from my walk/jog. I have a NEW, UNBELIEVALBE, BEST TIME!!!!I did my 4.5 miles in 44:20!!! :spin: This is almost 2 minutes faster than my previous best time. I couldn't believe it and wonder if somehow I didn't do my timer right, but all seems perfectly okay with it and I had checked it as I went along the way. This weekend really psyched me up, it seems!!!!


There has NEVER been any doubt in my mind what a wonderful group of women we have on this board, and this weekend just confirmed this fact that much more-it was wonderful and I truly wish you could of all been there to enjoy it with us.

Eli, I and the kids did get a late start Saturday morning (BOB, you do know me well!). With Eli coming home at 2am and getting only a half-hour sleep and me getting about 3 1/2 hours sleep, trying to get the kids ready to go, packing a few items, baking the quiche and making the hummus, we didn't get out of the house until 6am, instead of 5am. We made pretty good time once we got on the turnpike, but getting off and having to go through Kissimmee slows you down. Dropped the kids off at my cousins and we headed to SOLSHINES house, got there about 10:45am, I believe. Her directions were great!

We were greeted by SOL, her DH VINCE, FROG & DH BILL. FROG & DH had gotten there about 15 minutes before we did. We walked in and I felt like we were old friends who hadn't seen each other in a while, not people who were meeting for the first time! SOL is absolutely the sweetest person-fun to be with, feel like you can talk about anything with her, a person you KNOW that if you lived closer to you'd know you'd love to hang around with and do stuff with her. VINCE is a doll. I didn't know what to expect as SOL had never posted a picture of him. Under that definite "I can be stern if I have to" look, there's a great person, easy to talk to and very personable. You can tell the two of them are DEFINITELY in love!!!!:love: They make a great couple and I truly wish we lived closer!!!!

What can I say about FROG!?! She is just as outgoing in person as she is on the board, moreso even. You can see where she too would be a blast to be around, it would never be a dull moment hanging with her.:) I, as many of you, have seen pictures of her on the board-trust me, she's more beautiful in person! DH BILL is a dear too. A definite carrot-top. He and FROG compliment each other so nicely and make a great looking couple.

So, in we brought all the stuff we had in the car. I felt like I was moving in! Besides the food, I had the shirts FRED had sent me, brought my Powerbelt to show the others, pictures, cookbooks, Starbucks Espresso machine, a hostess gift, tahini and falafel mixes for SOL, pita bread for SOL & CHRIS, just a bunch of stuff!

SOL had her dining room table set up and already ready with some food, so we added our stuff to it. (I'm sure I'll be reiterating some of what others have already said, so please, bear with me). I brought HUMMUS & PITA BREAD (of course), the CRUSTLESS SPINACH QUICHE that I had popped in the oven at 4am, 2 ZUCCHINI LOAF CAKES as I didn't know if the first one was going to be good, so wanted to have a back-up, and the CRUSTLESS CHEESECAKE which I was hoping would come out as good as the first one, and it did! SOL had made a dip made with cheese and Rotel tomatoes, I believe, served with Triscuits, a roast (sorry SOL, forgot what it was called exactly) in the crock pot, had SB LEGAL BREADS and she too made a CHEESECAKE (can you tell we weren't laking dessert!). She had the table nicely made with all the fixins, drinks, etc.

GATOR arrived next and adorned the table with the most interesting dish I had ever seen, a VEGETABLE TUREEN It looked wonderful! It tasted even better! Eli loved it too and was wondering how the heck she was able to keep it all together. She also made a bean dish that was interesting. It was nice to see her as well. I've met GATOR about a year ago at our first SB get together.

Last to arrives was BIGK & ZSU who drove together. Both of them are fairly new on the board, and they fit right on in with us "oldies". I can see where the two of them working together and being on SB together can provide not only a great friendship, but wonderful support. Being able to have the opportunity to get to know them better in person made me feel like they too had been around the board longer than they have. Both brought pictures of the family. BIGK'S son, well, if you saw his pic, you'd know why she has that screen name, he is a big boy, that's for sure! Her daughter is a blond cutie! ZSU also brought a couple pics of her and DH-what a difference in her since she took those pictures and lost so much weight. They both were such dolls!
Back to the food...BIGK brought a great veggie arrangement with a dip, and some delicious strawberries-she sure picked some winners, they were wonderful! ZSU made a really great dish with WW pasta, sausage and lots of other goodies in it. She'll have to post the recipe for you all.

Well, as SOL had mentioned, the table could easily of been a advertisement for our WOE. It looked great, and everything looked and WAS delicious (yes, I took pictures of the food! I know you would be asking this). We all dug in and everthing was fabulous. I personally ate way too much. We definitely could of fed an Army it seemed, lots of leftovers-SOL & VINCE won't have to cook for a few days, at least. Afterwards, Eli went to work and made cappucino's for all-not to mention, washing dishes-what a guy!!!!

We sat and talked while we ate and afterwards. FROG was a such a sweetie and brought us all insulated water bottle holders-I guess all this talk of late of us not drinking enough water maybe enticed her to make this selection??

After lunch and clean up we all headed over to WDW to the EXPO and to p/u FROG & BILLS racing stuff. We caravaned down the interestate and luckily, no one got lost. The EXPO wasn't as big as I thought, but that was fine, it was still nice. While FROG & BILL went to get their things, the rest of us walked around. We found FRED at his booth and thanked him for the wonderful shirts he sent us. He said he was having a good show, which made me feel good. Next to him was a "GOT MILK" booth and they were making milk shakes and having everyone take pictures with the classic GOT MILK MUSTACHE They could only get in 6 people at a time, so we 6 that were together at the time got the pics done, and FROG & BILL went on later and did theres. We all got a copy. Needless to say, I tried to make sure no one swallowed the shake and spit it out!:rolleyes: There was also a booth from TANITA who makes the body fat scales. Never before would of I thought, in a public place, that I'd be getting on any type of scale! But I wanted to know what my BF was, so I hopped on. I must of broken the darn scale because it said my BF was 14.2%. Not knowing anything about BF and what numbers are good/bad, I asked the gal if that was good-and I got a YES! Seems for my age, a healthy range is 10.2-22.9. She put me as being athletic, I think better would be moderately active, so maybe the number would be up a bit more, but probably still within a good range. Anyhow, that was a real surprise. It also gave the BMI which was 23.3, It also did say my BRM would be 1302 calories, so without exercise, that's the caloric intake I would need to keep at my current weight. Since I do exercise, it's usually around 1400 (but lately, it's been up, up and away!).

After we got through there we went on to have an early dinner, as FROG & BILL had to get up and be at the race site at 4am:eek: We hit OUTBACK and thank goodness, with GATORS brains, she had called ahead to reserve seating for us, so we didn't even have to wait 2 minutes for a table. GATORS DH joined us for dinner, so we had a table of 10. Of course, we all know dinner at Outback is always good, but being with such wonderful company made it even better!!!

After dinner, we all disbursed and went our seperate ways. BIGK & ZSU headed back home, so we said our goodbyes in the parking lot. SOL & I planned to meet at 4am the next morning to head to the race site. Our hotel was great, very nice. Luckily, our hotel was just 5 minutes from Outback, so we had the least amont to drive after dinner.

I was worried and didn't think I was going to be able to go with SOL so early to the race site as at the time we got back to the hotel it seemed we'd have to go get the kids stuff in the morning so my cousins wouldn't have to cut their vacation day short (I don't like putting people out). Anyhow, I told SOL I'd plan to see her a bit later, but if anything changed, I'd let her know. Cousins called at almost midnight and though I don't remember much of anything, I did remember them saying if we could come get the kids later than what I had wanted that they would just come back at that time, which was great (and I prayed I wasn't dreaming this, cause I had been in a deep sleep). Luckily, I didn't sleep too soundly afterwards and 4:15am, I found myself grogy but up and called SOL on her cell phone asking her "where are you????" Luckily, she was just getting on the highway and was about 20 minutes away-enough time for me to hit the shower and throw on clothes and get down stairs, which is what I did. There wasn't enough time for Eli and I both to get ready, so I told him what I was doing and let him go back to sleep, he sure did need it anyhow.

SOL picked me up and off we went to the race site. We got there a couple minutes after 5am. There were so many people there! Runners were getting ready and there were so many spectators lining the route. We were lucky to get a great spot to view and cheer. At 6am the fireworks went off and a portion of the race began. First they had the wheelchair bound racers start-it brought tears to my eyes to see people who could easily let a disability like this ruin their lives if they wanted, but instead seem to turn negatives into positives! Then the half-marathon people started. Then the full. It was SO inspiring! You see so many different kinds of people, it's unbelievable! Old, fat, skinny, young, you name it! There was a man on crutches! There were people with funny hats, people dressed up as Minnie, Goofy, fairies, guy running with an American flag atop a fishing pole-it was just amazing!!!!!!! Got that camera ready, took a couple candid shots to finnish the role so if we were lucky to find FROG & BILL among the masses, I'd have some new film. Go in my purse to get the film and uh oh, no film!:eek: I had grabbed the film container with my Stevia in it instead of film!!!!!!!!!!!!! There's a guy staning behind SOL & I that says " you need some feel, here!" I said, "how much?" He tells me nothing, I'm a photographer, I have extra! What a guy!!!!! Anyhow, previously, FROG had given SOL some of those GLOW STICKS for us to wave so she could see us easier, so we're standing there waving these glow sticks and getting our arm exercises while cheering on the runners and looking for FROG & BILL and WE SEE THEM!!! Take a quick pic, wish them luck and off they go. The next viewing wasn't for quite a while, so SOL & I went back to the car, told ELI to get ready and we headed back to the hotel, had some breakfast, packed up and checked out and headed back to WDW to the site that FROG had told us was the hardest for them, which was mile 20, where it looped and came back to hit mile 21 (so we would get to see them twice after they looped). We got there around 9am and it started to pour. I felt so bad for the runners, it's cold and now raining! Not good. ELI ran back to the car for the umbrella and a rain poncho, he stayed for a bit then went back to the car to change his wet shirt and put on a sweater, and SOL & I kept looking for FROG & BILL while cheering on the runners (they really appreciate it). We finally got to see them around 10:45am, and they were looking good, but drenched. After they faded away into the distance we hopped in the car, we knew we had at least an hour before they would hit the finish line, so we headed to Starbucks which is fairly close. On the way back we went to EPCOT where the finish line was and a security guy was at the exit to get in,turning cars away, saying there was no room:eek: We didn't know what to do, so headed to WDW, we figured we'd have to take the monorail over to EPCOT and then see the finish of the race. Luckily, the guy didn't charge us the usual $6 to park there, but by the time we got the tram to the WDW gates, waited for the monorail, took it over to Epcot, so on and so forth, FROG & BILL were already done and gone:( We didn't know that and looked all over the REUNION AREA for them, until they called from the hotel to tell us they were there. I felt awful! If the guy had let us in we would of been there in more than enough time (like at least 20 minutes to spare). When we got to Epcot, it wasn't packed like he said-and we were not only disappointed, but pissed off as well. Anyhow, can't cry over spilled milk, doesn't help the situation, she knew we were there in spirit! Even GATOR tried to come and cheer her on, but my cell phone died and they couldn't reach us, and it was raining, so they left-can't blame them.

Anyhow, from there, SOL, ELI & I went out to lunch-to Italianni's. We use to have one close to home, but they closed it about a year ago, and I really miss it! I think the Orlando location is the only one open anymore, not that they had that many to start with. So we went there and I got what I usually get which is EGGPLANT PARM, so the breading was about the only no-no on the dish, but it was oh, so good! SOL had the same and enjoyed it. ANYHOW, I was going to do a major, horrific cheat-at least I thought so. I had told ELI, should we ever get to Italianni's, I wanted a piece of their TIRAMISU, which, the one down here had the best I could ever find. SO, here we are, in Italianni's and I've got the good/bad conscience going back and forth on whether to get this Tiramisu and finally decide to get it and have just a little. They bring it and right away, I knew it wasn't the same, looked different. Stuck my fork in it, put it on my tongue, did it again, knew it wasn't the same and said "forget it". So I guess, not even a tsp. going in my mouth would constitute it to be a cheat. I guess G-D was trying to keep me legal!!! LOL!!!

We took SOL back to our hotel where we had left her car and said our goodbyes as she needed to get home and get some rest, it had been a long weekend for her as well. After she left ELI & I went to FROG & BILLS hotel to see them before we left. SOL & I, when we went to STARBUCKS had seen a pair of FROG SLIIPERS at the store next to it and bought them for FROG. Our intentions to give them to her at the finnish line were thwarted, so I presented them to her at the hotel-I hope she found some comfort in them because her and BILL'S feet were killing them. Her poor tootsies are really bad! Both her and BILL were limping! They looked good and were enjoying some R&R in the lobby in front of the big screen tv with some wine and beer. We got to congratulate them for doing a great job in the race and FROG showed off her beautiful MM MEDAL that she so rightfully earned! We sat and chatted for a while before taking a few pictures and having to leave.

Off to get the kids, later than I had wanted, got them, had to stop and get them some food for dinner and started to head home. Made it in the door at 11pm, very tired. Didn't sleep well for some reason, so a bit pooped today, esp. after the run.

So there you have it, my best recollection of this weekend! It was truly wonderful and I wish it didn't have to end so quickly. Again, I wish you would of all been able to join us. SOL & I decided that NEXT YEAR, WE TOO ARE GOING TO BE IN THE WDW MARATHON WITH FROG and we want as many of you on the board to either join us in the race, or at least come and cheer us on!!

ALSO, we want you all to SERIOUSLY think about joining us for a big SB GET TOGETHER in OCTOBER 2002 in NORTH CAROLINA at the beachfront property that FROG can get us for dirt cheap! Don't miss out on this opportunity-we are giving you more than enough notice to make plans. We don't have an exact date yet, but just tell your bosses and DH's that you know you'll need a day or two off in early October and will let them know the exact dates in the next couple months. Probably Thursday-Sunday, as Friday-Sunday just seems too short-even Thursday-Sunday is short, but more is hard for many. KEEP IT IN MIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyhow, I'm going to work on PART 2 of my post now...

BigKnightsMomma 01-07-2002 10:52 AM

SB meeting in orlando
good morrning everybody,

the weekend was wonderful and the meeting in orlando was awesome! i was a little nervous driving over to sonya's to meet the sugarbuster gang on saturday but once i walked through that door i felt that i had hooked up with friends i have known forever!
i had a great time, the food was wonderful and everything was SB legal. when i told my husband everything we had he was surprised we had room for the dinner at the outback, a photo of the spread would be a good advertisement for convincing people to go on SB. especially the CHEESECAKE!(please post the recipe debbie ASAP) solshine and gatorgal did an excellent job reporting the events of the day, i just wanted to reconfirm how wonderful it was getting to meet everyone! the care and support that comes across the board is amazing but these women walk the talk so to speak. what a warm caring group of women and i just want to thank you all for the great time.

frog-remember what i said about spewer, YOU ARE THE WOMAN! i am so glad i got to meet you, what an inspiration you are to all of us! hope you had a great time and please stay warm and dry, sorry about the florida rains

solshine-thanks so much for opening your house to all of us, you were an excellent hostess (and vince was a great host) we only live about an hour from you, keep in touch, maybe we will see you again on any of our many treks to UCF to see my big knight!

gatorgal- enjoyed our visit with you and mr. gator. i enjoyed our football talk. i am confident that the gators will do well in their coach search, i gather that BOB has a little ribbing for you!

zsuzsu- thanks for going with me to the get-to-gether. you are not half bad to travel with (LOL) seriously you are an inspiration with your 50lb. loss and the reason i found this WOE.

and last but not least debbie-you are truly a wonderful caring person and like i have said before thank you for finding this fl. gal on the cold sugarbuster message board and showing the way to these caring and inspiring women on this message board. it was a pleasure to meet you and eli(what a sweetie) you are to be congratulated on pulling this weekend together! seeing your photos and talking to you has put everything in line for me and has given me that extra boost i need to start the new year with this WOE. i had been a litle discouraged with the last six weeks of slow little losses but i am confident that i can do it ! thanks for the coffee, shirt and pita, but most of all thanks for the opportunity to meet all of you wonderful folks!

and to all of you other sugarbustin ladies if you are able try to meet up with us at a get-to-gether in the future, it was wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!

your friend,


viv 01-07-2002 11:12 AM

Morning SB-ers!

Well, I can’t add much to the board today after reading all the wonderful descriptions of the Marathon Marathon (lol) at WDW. I am so jealous about everything!!! Hanging with the SB crowd, watching the marathon, being at WDW --- while up here we have 6 inches of new snow….I could kick myself for not having made my FLA reservations final last year!

DEB – I’m, glad you had such a great time with the gang. And good for you on that tiramisu! I don’t know that I would have had the willpower to not eat it. Congrats on the bodyfat info as well – excellent results! Imagine what they would have been two years ago!

FROG – Congrats on finishing! I can imagine the sense of satisfaction you must have. You go girl!

SOL, GATOR, and the rest of the FLA gang – happy you all had such a fun and productive time. Wish we were FLA bound soon, but no plans at the moment. We watched our 3/01 Disney vacation video this weekend and I was losing my mind – wanted to go back so badly! Ah, it will have to wait till the new roof, new paint on the house, etc. etc….

I’ve been 98% OP since last Wednesday and do feel better. Won’t weigh for a while….the remaining 2% is from an occasional taste of someone elses’ food….nothing serious. Did have some pretzels yesterday but managed to get the the market last night and stock up on SB legal stuff.

QUESTION for Deb – the spareribs recipe posted on the recipe thread calls for ketchup – is the sugar in ketchup not to be concerned with? Have looked for SF ketchup to no avail. Let me know as I bought ribs last nite – a good,family friendly meal!

Well, this weekend consisted of a total of 5 hockey games/practices, skiing for big DS and DH, and stocking up at BJs on FRUIT 2-0!! For those of you who get sick of water, try getting some of this stuff – no sugar, no calories, no chemicals – it goes down WAY easier than water sometimes does – I bought it for the kids, because after hockey they always want a powerade or something, full of sugar, and found that I really like it myself. Give it a try, may help with water consumption!

Back to my (boring, boring, boring) work…..Everyone stay warm!


viv 01-07-2002 11:33 AM

Interesting Site
Hi - Forgot to mention in looking for recipes I found this interesting Lo Carb, low glycemic site ---www.shakeoffthesugar.net.
Has lots of recipes!


jmuir9668 01-07-2002 12:23 PM

Happy Monday!
Well, here we are at the beginning of a new week. So far I am off to a pretty good start. My DH and I went to the hockey game last night where I was pretty good considering. I didn't have my normal hockey game food and had a diet soda and water to drink. I know it doesn't sound like much, but for me it is big.

Today so far I have had 1 cup of green tea and water with my lunch, which was a chicken breast with provolone cheese and a salad.

I didn't work out or strecth this morning becuase I can't seem to get over this creeping crud that I have had since Christmas. I'm really hoping that it goes away soon so that I can add some movement to my life.

Hope everyone had a great weekend. Sounds like the ladies at WDW had a blast.


Debelli 01-07-2002 12:31 PM

I figured I better do this post in 2 parts, just in case I lost 1, or it was too big to do the entire thing.

Was happy to find the scale down again, not to my all time low, but down from the other day. Back down to 121.5. After this weekend, I felt a renewed feeling and finding myself wanting to get back to journaling and drinking my water, so I am resigned to do the best ever today! Just being with the gals makes you feel like that, at least it did for me:)

I was happy to hear the board was hopping when SOL told me she saw the great activing on the board when she went to post on Saturday-you all make me proud:D I'm going to do my darndest to reply to everyone that I can-I figured I'd be at this computer until I had to go get Michael at school.

BOB, were your ears a'burning this weekend? We really missed your presence and truly wished you'd of been able to join us-for sure, next time! We discussed Thursday night's SURVIVOR and all seem to think it will be ETHAN who takes the money home, 2nd in line is TOM. You do know ELI well, he definintely wondered this weekend-luckily, between my *****in under my breath, I was able to find her rather easily:) Did you have a good trip?? Really good BBQ, okay, how was the sauce, compared to SHORTY'S?? Glad to see you're back, safe and sound!

MELF, you make me blush:^: with such kind words. As important as I must seem to you and the rest of the board, you are ten fold more important to me!!! Your ears burning this weekend too-we talked about the time you got to meet SOL & GATOR! Choc. Cheesecake, tell me more!! I know the feeling about the scale and the yo-yo, but it happens and it's been happening to me as well, so just know, you aren't alone!

TV, terribly guilty with the water intake over the past weekend and last week. I don't think I drank even 2 cups of water this entire weekend! BUT, with a renewal today, I'm sitting here with a 1.5 liter bottle of water, vowing to drink it all before I finish this post:)

SHEANN, hope you are doing well as you get into following the SB WOE. You really won't miss the potatoes, just give your self a little time, it's all mental. You are so right, there are so many other things you can have, focus on that, vs the ones you can't. The BROWN RICE CEREAL, not sure how SB LEGAL it is, esp. if it's ground small. Just remember, if you see that it bothers you, you can always give it up. One thing about SB is, it seems to be a very forgiving WOE. What may bother you may not bother another. BEACHFAN who just hasn't had any time to post on our board in recent months, met her goal weight last year and the entire time on SB she ate bananas. So where that didn't bother her, it may bother me (though I don't know, haven't had one in almost 2 years!). Did you get to make the hummus??

MEL, sounds like you had a good food day on Friday-congrats! Hmm, addicted to exercise, you sound like SPARKLE, please be careful with that-at least you have recognized this may be a problem. I do give you a lot of credit in varying your exercise regime though, but try not to over due it:) The cheesecake, to die for! But DANGEROUS for me to have it around, addicted to exercise? I'm addicted to this cheesecake!

TREE, so good to see your post! We've missed you! Was wondering what happened to you! Loved the info on the wrinkles-wonder if you stop eating the sugar/crap, do the wrinkles disappear-wishful thinking, I guess! Well, maybe now that we are all following SB, we'll all stay youthful looking! LOL!! CONGRATS on the new job! Glad to hear it's in the same field. Life's too short to be in a job you aren't happy in-and what perfect timing to have someone offer you a new job!! Will check your recipe out later, interesting name!


ZANNE, glad the smoothie recipe was a hit! BUT, do be careful with using the grape juice, it's really a no-no:nono:, too much sugar in it. Hope you got rid of the berrie pits, they can hurt if you get stuck in a gum!!! I read most of the BFL book, but knew it wasn't something I would commit myself to doing. Would love to see your pics that you DH took of you before!! HINT, HINT! Good luck with BFL! The recipes, the ones I made are on the board, well, all except the cheesecake one, which I'll get on this week.

SOL, you did a good job with posting the events of the weekend. I'm sure they're going to get sick of us telling them what a great weekend we had! THANK YOU AGAIN! I miss you already!!!! You did a great job on reviewing the weekends events for everyone (hey, I got you on the board twice this weekend!!!) Thanks for posting all the info for next years WDW MARATHON. I know you will be starting your training well in time and will be very prepared to run with me and others next year :) Loved reading the article from the news. Did you get to see any of it on the news?? It's amazing the times the winners finished the marathon in-like they flew! I wish we had more time together, we could of spent some serious time getting into trouble together. I guess we'll just have to plan another time to get together in the near future. Remember, you and VINCE have an open invitation to come down and stay with us for a long weekend visit. Hey, I bet I could even get BOB to come at the same time-that would be a hoot!! Did you get some good sleep before work today? Did you get my e-mail with the guy who's face I surely can't recall?? LOL!!!!

ROSALIE, we thought about everyone on the board during our time together, and we surely felt the vibes you were all sending down to us!

JRED, just a quick HELLO!!! How's the weather out there in the Lonestar State?

GATOR, it was good to see you again. Once again, sorry about the cell phone trouble and not being able to get with you too. As you probably read from my first post, we didn't get to see FROG & BILL finish the race either. We all were upset. Anyhow, I have said it before, and I'll say it again, you missed your calling, you should of been a gourmet cook-I loved the tureen, and I swear, I know if I ever even attempted to make one, it would be a flop-you do have a way of making things not only delicious, but choosing foods that are so beautiful to look at! Between you and SOL rubbing salt in the wound of BOB and getting her coffe, she may be in tears by now!

CAT, hope you got a whirl on the treadmill! SOL asked me about the same question on exercise and the motivation of doing it. It's hard to do it, esp at the beginning, but once you get into the routine, you miss it if you don't do it. I think what motivated me most at the beginning was seeing the scale move down faster as I made exercise more of a daily event in my life. Then it just became second nature. I find I'm cranky and more hungry during the day if I don't do it, and with a day like I had today and having a new best time, it's like a natural high-such a wonderful feeling!!! If you're able, when the weather is good, walk outside-I had a TM and gave it away, I hated it!

NANCE, trust me, we took pictures!! NOW, have to get one roll developed and the other one done, will finish that one probably at Lauren's bday in a couple weeks. A date with DAN, no kids-WOW! What did you see at the movies? Yum, that recipe sounds great-def. post it, as I'm SURE it must be SB LEGAL if you are making it;)

NOMORESUGAR, WELCOME TO THE BOARD! Glad you have decided to join us. You're definitely a seasoned SB MEMBER, not to mention ANOTHER FLORIDIAN!!!!! As you can see, we have a slew of Floridians on this board, the more, the merrier! That's so cool you have a SB SUPPORT GROUP, how many women are there in the group? How are they doing with this WOE? I'm sure you are an inspiration to them. TOFU, there's a brand that I use that I think is calledSO-LOW SOY BOY, not sure as I don't really pay attention to the name, but just know the product and grab it at the store. That I get at the HFS, Wild Oats. I know some Publix carries it, so keep an eye out if you want to find some there. There are hundreds of thousands of recipes using soy. Actually, you can use tofu in just about any recipe, if it calls for chicken, or meat, you can substitute tofu for these foods. Here's a good site for tofu info, just click on the link: http://www.tofu.com/recipes.html There are also lots of great books in the libraries and many sites on the web as well-if I can help you find something in particular, just let me know-would be happy to help. Again, WELCOME!

WAFRA, glad to hear you're converting the troops without having too much resitance! Glad to hear you were able to get the agave-you should try to stock up on it while you can. Let us know what you make with it.

SEF, funny you should mention Olive Garden, one of the few places I really don't like, one due to there being very little choice for one on SB to choose from, not to mention, I really don't care for the food. BUT, the last time I was there, at the beginning of SB, I had them bring a bowl of plain salad and had to resort to squeezing lemon juice and shaking salt on it-wasn't too bad. Also, had them make some fish, plain. Oh yes, the food was SB LEGAL and there was way too much of it-wish you were there!!!!

RHROO, when the kids go to school late due to snow, do they have to stay later? Heck, I don't like going out when it's in the 50-60 degrees here! Eli was laughing at me in the car on the way up to Orlando, as I was freezing-he says " And you want to move North???" I may have to rethink this idea!!!

BIGK, again, it was such a pleasure to meet you! I'm thrilled you came and joined us, and as I poste earlier, as well as your confirmation in your post, it was like we were all old friends! There is NOTHING like getting together with other SB friends to feel a renewal of excitement and support. I know we will be getting together more times in the future and I hope both you and ZSU will always find a way to join us!!!!

VIV, you should be able to find SF ketchup at the HFS if not elsewhere, or you can be adventurous, and make your own. Definitely don't want regular ketchup, with it's corn syrup among gawd knows what else in it. I bought some WESTBRAE SF KETCHUP, but haven't tried it yet-not a big ketchup lover.

JMUIR, hope you can rid yourself from that crud, hanging around too long. Congrats on holding strong with not eating the hockey food! Lunch sounds yummy, think I'll got make some chicken salad!!!

Was on the phone with my Dad a went to read him the results of the BODY FAT thing I mentioned in my first post, and realized that the range of numbers I had quoted before were incorrect, that was for MALES! Not sure how good this is, but for my age the FEMALE RANGE IS 21.3%-35.8%! Anyone know if it's bad to have lower? Not that it's going to make a differnce, sure as heck know that I'm not gaining any fat to bring those numbers up-really, I must of broke the darn scale!!!!

Suppose to have another cold front coming through tomorrow-would you Northern gals stop sending this frigid air down here, please!!!!

WOW, I've been at this computer for HOURS! Finally finished-WHEW! Guess I should go see what I con conjure up for lunch, take a shower and get ready to go get Michael. I'm sure I must of missed telling you all SOMETHING, but the brain is tired now, so I'll have to post whatever I forgot later, as I'm almost done with this water and I HAVE to hit the potty!!!

Have a wonderful week! Please remember, TOMORROW NIGHT IS CHAT AT 9:15PM EST!!! Hope you all can make it!!

SB since 3/22/00
Reached goal 6/10/01

crickett 01-07-2002 12:42 PM

Happy New Year. It's been awhile since I've visited a SB board, but glad to be back. Everyone sounds energized, by the Florida trip, by exercise, by the support. Great to read about you all.

I have now lost 14 pounds on the SB WOE. Did well through the holidays, have been consistent with my exercise program, feel good!

I am planning to go to Central America in a few weeks to Spanish language school, and to volunteer in an orphanage. May be gone for two months. Somewhat worried about the eating part. Will not be able to stay legal, but hope I am able to make mostly healthy choices, and continue to lose weight. If anyone has any suggestions, I would love to hear them.

I will check in again before I leave, and when I return.
Until then, have a wonderful week.

Sheann 01-07-2002 01:52 PM

It sounds like everyone had a wonderful time at the marathon. I have always had a dream of one day running one. I turn 48 in June and I would like to make it a goal to run one before I turn 50. I guess the first goal should be to walk a mile:D

So far today I have had: 2 boiled eggs chopped with a tablespoon of salsa wrapped in a ww tortilla. Two hours after that I had a grapefruit.

Debbie, I did make the hummus. I took a small taste and it tastes so good, I can't wait to have it for lunch on toasted ww pita chips.

I guess, I really need to concentrate on drinking my water too. I have been so bad about that and I know that it is one of the keys to losing weight.

Also, I was watching a section about health on the news the other day. They said something that made me sit up and take notice: "If you are significantly overweight", like me, "you may have your life shortend by as much as 20 years". Now that is a statement and a half. AND it woke me right up. I want to be around to see my grandchildren grow up, not to mention, run that marathon.

Anyway, Hope everyone has a great evening! I will probably be back reading the posts and posting again later.


pravda 01-07-2002 02:54 PM

This weekend was my first OFFICAIL try on with SB WOE. MAN, I didnt realize how many illegal foods we eat!
Today has been good so far, I think I ate a good breakfast, I had a piece of WW toast only 1gr sugar per slice, with a little butter. One boiled egg with a little salt and pepper and a 4oz glass of oj, fresh squeezed.
I had that at about 730a and then a snack at about 11a. I had a little granny smith apple and an 8oz thing of dannon NF blueberry yogurt.
I am drinking water.
Does that sound ok?

I was glad to here that Frog finished the marathon! I am so proud for her! I know what a great acomplishment that was! Maybe one day I will be that fit to be able to run that far! It gives me the courage to go another day! GREAT JOB FROG!

I have been able to say no thanks to some 3 kings Cake that one of my team mates brought to work! I love 3 kings cake! It was hard, but I am so proud of me for sticking to my guns!
I say myself on video the other day, boy was I surprised. I look like a hippo! I was not happy with that at all. I decided right then, that I am not going thru another year looking like a beached whale!

I just now have to convince myself that excercise is important!

Thanks to the person who gave that website about shaking off the sugar. I am looking for good ideas and recipes and hopefully this will help!

I guess this is long enough.

Keep it up! We can do this.

sef 01-07-2002 04:37 PM

HiedieHo All!!!

My, some people can be soooooo wordy, but thank goodness they are!!!!! All of the Otown gang have given us such wonderful reports, I'm bereft that I wasn't there!!! We're eager for any more tidbits of the weekend you night have missed on your first posts!

Motivation for me at this point is all the gift certificates I got for Christmas. I want to be able to spread them out and reward myself as I CONTINUE to go down!!

To my way of thinking motivation can be anything that helps us see why or how we want to lose weight. For one it is reading about obesity shortening our lives. We've all heard it so many times, but chose not to let it sink in because we don't like to face facts. Then one day BAM! (excuse me Emeril) for some reason it hits us and we are ready to meet the enemy......ourselves. Or we see pictures of ourselves and wonder how could we have let ourselves get so hippo-like! I look at myself and really don't see a big change in weight, yet my clothes definitely show it! Then I looked at pics from Christmas a year ago! OMG!! That's me? Did I really look like that? Guess so, pictures don't lie!!!

So we are motivated by one thing or another. Makes no difference what, just that we are and that's what keeps us going!! Now about that exercise...........

TREE - Tough to be in limbo at your job. You're still part of the work force but no longer a part of the team. At least you have something new to look forward to.

BOB - Well, welcome home. At least you made it between storms. I was stranded twice for long periods of time at an airport, 7 hours in Detroit and 8 in Minneapolis-St.Paul. Definitely not fun. At least you weren't sitting in airport all that time, got to a mall! Your sojourn is behind you now and you can relax.

FROG - You're probably too pooped to pop or post. Everyone is so proud of you. The Otown bunch gave us glowing reports. Hope by now you both are recovering.

DEB - You probably didn't get a good night's sleep because !) you were probably over tired and 2) you were so keyed up wanting to post all that info to us here. You did a great job reporting as did the other gals, we could almost feel the rain and taste the food!!!!

JMUIR - You say your abstinence wasn't much. For each of us there is a different "much", any time we can forego something that is a temptation we have done MUCH!!!! WTG!

VIV - Around here the only brand SF Ketchup I've seen is Estes. It is really good. Get it in Winn Dixie, once in a while Sav_A_Center (A & P) has it. Arund here WD had the best selection of SB & other SF foods. Even have fresh SB bread in their bakery.

CRICKET - 14# down is wonderful!! Maybe Central America might not be so bad, they don't have the processed foods we have so whole grains should be easy to come by, also veggies will be available. I have a friend whose son lives in Brazil, she says foods there are really more natural. We'll hope the same for you.

Did my usual stint at NH and then picked up a few things at Winn Dixie. Am doing wash. Also ds was home over the holidays and I didn't do much cooking after our company left. Now it is back to regular routine, school's in, ds back to work and dil even worked a couple of hours today. She was exhausted and is taking nap. So now I'm back to usual too, am fixing poached salmon, tossed salad and rice for supper.

Hope all are well, Take care, sef

BusDeb 01-07-2002 05:09 PM

Monday Afternoon
Hello all,
I have been enjoying my last day before I head back to work tomorrow. Slept late......till 6am. In the morning I will get up at 5am. LOL Did a few things around here before getting a showere. Then I took DS #2 and DD to the mall. We got them both new tennis shoes and both on sale I might add. Then DD and I found some MUDD sweats that she loved on sale so we got two pairs. I wish I could find some of those in my size.....they look so comfy.

I have the farrier coming out tomorrow to do Cami and Dixies hoofs. She was recommended by the lady I got Cami from and lives near here and I also like the fact that she is female. I can't wait to meet a fellow horse nut. LOL The Stables where we taking riding lesssons has agreed to come out this week and evaluate Dixie for me. She either has not had as much training as I was lead to believe or I just don't know what the heck I am doing. Which I fear is a little of both. Anyway they will decide where we need to go from here with her. She will probably wind up spending a month with them so they can help her learn what we expect of her. The stable is a mile away from my school so I will go by and ride/visit her everyday. They have been doing this for 31 years. Can you imagine that ......I would love it. Maybe some day I can get to that point. Small steps Debbie .....small small steps.

I have been doing good with my eating the last couple of days so I will not wiegh till Wed....but I think I will be surprised ....in a good way.

I am so glad that you gals and guys...LOL had such a wonderful time together. I am jealous....but I will get to meet you all one day I am sure.

Frog.......we are so proud of you and hubby ......you make us all wanna take up running. I hope you had a safe trip back home.

Deb......great reporting....you do make things come alive when you type....thanks so much for sharing. Please include pictures when you can. I did find the digital camera I wanted on buy.com....should be getting it by the end of the week. Also I wanted to ask will the October gathering be for just gals or would spouses be included?

Need to run....to all I missed ....keep on keeping on....we will win this battle together.

Debbie :))

catlover 01-07-2002 08:07 PM

Welcome back all you guys who went to WDW. Sounds like yall had a good time and alot of good food to eat to boot. Could almost taste the food. Cant wait to see the pics.

Congrats Frog and Mr. Frog. What an accomplishment.

welcome back Crickett

Well Gator Gal. I got my motivation to exercise. My nephew is getting married in May, and I need to slim down in order to fit into one of my nicer dresses. I think we should email each other with a weekly plan, then on Friday see how good we did. Hows that sound?

my email addy is [email protected]

Busdeb - congrats on staying OP. Nothing better for motivation then seeing the scale go down

BOB - welcome back

DH and I went out tonite and bought some flooring for our den. It is Formica Fast Lock flooring tile. It looks like ceramic but its not. Will be putting that down next week, inbetween playing golf and goofing off.

Ive got several rooms I need to paint, but cant decide on a color scheme for any of them. I figure I might as well do them now while winter is here, since I cant do any gardening stuff til spring.

Well guess I better go for now. Hello to everyone else and see ya in the am.

The Quilter 01-07-2002 08:57 PM

Hello from a wandering soul!
Hi, Girls!!!!!

I got a note from DEB and, as we all know, she is SOOOO wonderful. She mentioned the BigO weekend and I had to get to the board to get all the scoopage! First of all . . .

WAY TO GO FROGGIE!!!! YOU ARE AWESOME!!!!! YOU ARE WOMAN, HEAR YOU ROAR AND RACE BY!!!!!!! I am so happy, happy, happy for you and so very proud of you. What an incredible accomplishment. I'm giving you a standing ovation right here and now. WAY TO GO, GIRLFRIEND. You so inspire me to get my big you-know-what moving!!!!!

Thanks to SOL and DEB for their fantastic descriptions of the weekend. I was GREEN with envy. That spread you all put together at SOL"S sounded like something from a magazine. Wow! What a bunch of gourmet chefs. I wish there'd have been a video camera in the midst to record some of the get together for posterity's sake.

For those of you boarders of 6 months or less, I am an oldy, moldy who has teetered off the path to Sugar Free-dom. But I love so many people on this board and care about their successes and their attempts at success, that I have decided to get back on the board and check in with you dear souls.

Thanks also to VIV and DEB and SEF and SOL and BOB for keeping me in their email thoughts and forwards. You guys are great. It's good to be back. I did get a new computer in the fall, so it should make reading the board a bit faster. I'm crossing my fingers.

Take care.

tree 01-07-2002 09:10 PM

Newbies - I was logging onto <www.fitday.com>, a free website (you have to register) when I started. It showed me that I wasn't getting enough protein so my %ages were higher in carbs than they should be (40%carb, 30%protein, 30%fat). So I increased the egg intake, and started putting protein powder in my smoothies. I also was not getting enough calories throughout the day. So, it really helped me in tracking my %ages and calories until I got the hang of SB WOE. I checked it when I came home for work. Then if I needed to adjust it, I still had dinner to eat, and that helped me stay within the guidelines. Usually I'd end up eating some skim milk cheese at night to get to the right percentage protein. Laughing Cow, spreadable skim milk cheese wedges are great!

For b-fast, I usually have a smoothie (1/2c yogurt, 1/2c milk, 1/2c frozen fruit, + protein powder), or one scrambled egg, plus rye toast, a canadian bacon slice, and cheese, or 1c cereal + 1/2c milk. Oh yeah, I must include the coffee fix. For lunch, I usually eat out, so I usually ask for extra veggies instead of the rice or potatoes, and I bring my own salad dressing (a salad is the easiest thing to tweak for SB, and most places have them). For dinner, we usually have the same things (you know you don't make any new meals, you just go through the same 5 meals over and over :D ), and that's where I get the rest of my protein for the day (my DH is a meat and potatoes guy). Of course, if I'm cooking, he's eating more sweet potatoes these days!

Hang in there, this WOE works!

Congrats Crickett! That's a great loss! You are so lucky to go to Central America. That's a great way to learn the language. I had a friend who did the same thing - volunteered at an orphanage (in Mexico?). She said she was really happy working with the children.

Sef - thanks for the job encouragement! Some of the crew are having a goodbye lunch for me which is nice. I will miss SOME :s: of them! Only a couple of more days and I'm outta there!

Debelli - I thought you might be interested in the chichikoot, since you do a wheat germ breakfast sometimes. I haven't tried it with other fruit. I actually cooked the whole POUND of wheatberries, so I froze half of it. It seems to have survived the freezing.

Well, I have to go. Talk to you all soon.

Mel 01-07-2002 10:02 PM

WOW what a weekend! Deb and Sol you should be screen writers! I could see and smell and taste the whole extravaganza! I'd love to be in on the challenge for next year. Don't know if the old knees can do a whole marathon anymore, even at walk/jog pace, but definitely would go for the 1/2. The rain didn't sound very appealing, tho. For that I can stay in Pennsylvania! I'm not sure how dh will react to me going away in October and January but I'd sure like to try. He works pretty long days sometimes (a lot) and ds is not real trustworthy home alone. Just a little too inventive and inquisitive.

FROG (and MR FROG) CONGRATULATIONS!!! CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE PICTURES. Hope your tootsies aren't too sore. I think it's great that you ran it together. I could never get dh into running, thinks its just mindnumbingly boring (part of the attraction IMHO), and he plays roller and ice hockey, which I find unbearably painful. Just not sports compatible.

ZANNE- LOL! Expert advice- you should have seen me this morning with the weights. I must have had my brain turned off since I started lifting umpteen years ago. I had no idea what to use to reach required intensities. Some sets never got anywhere near where they should have been, others, well I had to toss the weights once so I wouldn't drop them on my face! Guess that was hitting 11's.:lol: And the 1 minute between sets? What a yawn! I felt like I spent as much time staring at my stop-watch as I did lifting. This may not be for me....But I'll give it a few more weeks.

Deb- Congratulations on your new best time!!! Those marathoners must have really inspired you. My how you've changed your tune: when I first started reading this board you swore you'd never jog, walking was quite enough, thank you. Now your talking about marathons! Maybe I'll get you lifting yet!;) Did Michael get his weight set and bench yet???

Today I finally saw my all time low ( from WAY BACK) in mid December of 141. Another high point of the day: my boss gave me a pair of jeans that didn't fit her right and said she thought I looked about right for them: They were Old Navy size 6! I was thrilled just that she thought they might fit me, but told her it was impossible. She convinced me to try them on, and I was blown away that they went on, I could zip and button them and I could (almost) breath. But not comfortably:( . So I gratefully took them, and they are my "goal pants" for February. I can't believe I'm the same person who had to keep my size 16's unbuttoned on the plane ride home in July. I'm so glad I found this WOL, all of you, and my heavy squat bar:D

The snow finally hit here, along with ice. YUK!


Nomoresugar 01-07-2002 10:12 PM

It's late Monday night and I have just returned from dinner with several gal friends - we do a monthly girls nite out - and it is so easy stay legal when there is fish on a menu! The scale this morning show one pound less than a few days ago....which makes this the greatest way to eat!

SEF - I grew up in Perth Amboy and dh in Linden. We lived in Scotch Plains for a few years before moving the family to Florida. Where were you from???

DeBelli - Anywhere from 5 to 10 show up at the support group meetings. I keep trying to get them to read more about this WOE on line and at all of these great boards - but they are being kinda lazy! Some are doing better than others - and I think they do tend to cheat a bit. They find it hard to eat out all the time - something we retired seniors do here - and stay legal. Especially when they eat a price fixed meal with dessert included! But they are trying - and that is what is important. :)

I did stop off at two big health food stores today and neither one had the agave nectar. Which one do you order - the light or dark? I guess I will have to get it on line - or did I read somewhere that there is a place in Pembroke Pines that carriers it?????

Debelli 01-07-2002 10:59 PM

Evening All:wave:

Thought I'd be in bed by now, so pooped! Thought I'd try to get in a post before hitting the hay.

I did great today with journaling as well as water, so I'm happy. Tomorrow will be another successful day, I can feel it!

CRICKETT, glad to see you back, and Happy New Year! You are doing awesome, 14lbs is wonderful, CONGRATS!!!! WOW, that sounds like an interesting trip to take, when would you leave? What country are you planning to go to? I'm sure you can stay OP more than you think, these countries don't have as much processed foods as we do here. If you keep to basics, you'll probably do just fine. Maybe you should take some WW pastas, boxes of legal cereal and other food items that you can store easily with you, sure would help keep you more OP.

SHEANN, if you've dreamed it, you can do it! So why not plan to come with us next year! You have a year to train! You to make things happen!!! Your tortilla sounds yummy. I made a bean burrito for dinner tonight, was delicious, even though I was missing the tomatoes. Glad you liked the hummus:) It's great with celery too if you've overstepped your carbs on other things at any time. WOW, 20 years shorter if you are significantly overweight-heck, I'd sit up and take notice too. I'm sure my years of yo-yo dieting has taken a told on my life span, it sure has on the body, but I'm hoping with my turnaround, I've gained some of those years back.

PRAVDA, just make sure that Dannon yogurt is sugar free in addition to being fat free. I personally like to get plain yogurt and flavor it myself with either an extract, like lemon and some sweetener, or a tablespoon of pureed fruit, or fresh berries and some sweetener-definitely less preservatives!! Okay, what is 3 Kings Cake? They have the 3 Kings Parade here, but never heard of a cake. Well, whatever it is, congrats for not partaking in any! Oh yes, pictures speak volumes and there's nothing like a picture to show one how they really look. I look back on years of not even wanting to get in a photo, I missed out taking pics with the kids. I've never had a family photo, but now, I think it's something I will look into doing in the near future:)

SEF, I loved your way of thinking about motivation! Your words really hit home. You were right on my reason for lack of sleep, I was thinking about the weekend and reporting it all to you. I expect to see you if we all get together in NC!!!

BUSDEB, glad to see you are doing well with your eating. Crossing my fingers for you for WIW!! Hope things work out well with CAMI-keep us posted! I don't think we've decided about spouses or not coming in Oct. to NC, sure would put a damper on that naked masseurs that table dances!!! LOL!!:lol: Guess this is something we'll have to vote on.

CAT, sounds like you have some big projects planned for the house. Never heard of that flooring, is it something new?

QUILTER, you know how happy that makes me to see your post! I'm praying to pull you back for good. Guess I'll have to get to Paul and find a game plane;)

TREE, thanks for posting that info for the newbies. We all know about fitday.com, but many of the newbies haven't discovered it yet, so it's always good to remind, so thanks for doing that when I haven't:) I've never cooked whole wheatberries-how'd they come out? Have recipes using them, if ever you need one.

MEL, I bet you could do the entire marathon, but joining us at the half would be great. Start working on DH now, so it won't come as a big surprise. Hey, the Oct get together is this year, the WDW is next year, so he shouldn't complain, it's not like you will be seeing us twice in one year;) Yep, Michael got the weight bench, but haven't even had time to try it-one day, I will:) Congrats on those pants, I bet that was a big surprise to get into them-you've sure come a long way!!!!

SUGAR, glad to see you were able to figure out my directions on the post:) Thanks for posting your BIO on the BIO BOARD. It's always nice to learn more about our board members! Sounds like you had a nice time with the girls, and fish on the menu definitely makes it easier to stay OP. CONGRATS on another pound loss, always a nice thing to see on the scale, vs the alternative. Wish I had a group of SB people close to me to have a support group to meet with in person, it would be great. I envy you. BUT, I must say, the support of the gals on this board, as you can well see, is phenominal and this to me is just as good as being there face-to-face each week, well almost, as I wish the gals on this board all lived closer so we could do a weekly get together! Whatever the women who come to the meetings do as far as eating OP is better than not doing anything, that's for sure. I'm sure, without you, most of them wouldn't follow any kind of plan, so you are helping them in more ways than one. Yes, you can get the agave at NUTRITION S'MART in Pembroke Pines, you can all them and order a case before Wed and it will come in on Friday. Okay, my geography stinks, how far is Boynton Beach from Broward???? There is a WHOLE FOODS in Coral Springs that should have it, off Atlantic Avenue, but it may cost a little more, cents, not much. Let me know if want the phone number for NS.

Well, I'm pooped, so to bed I must go. I'll check in with you all tomorrow morning. Hoping to get my walk in early, but it's suppose to be down in the low 40's and I don't do too well outside when it's THAT cold, so may wait until it warms up a tad to go out, we'll see in the AM.


SB since 3/22/00
Reached goal 6/10/01

j red 01-07-2002 11:22 PM

It's Just Another Manic Monday
You WDW marathon ladies sure had a great time. The idea of a get together sounds wonderful. I'd probably have a better chance of getting to the beach in October than Orlando in January. Deb, keep us posted on the plans.

The weather is typical Texas. We were at 14 degrees last Thursday morning and are supposed to reach 71 tomorrow! I love and hate it. Just don't know what to keep in the closet and what to put up for the season. And I do like snow once in a while. But that can come at the end of the month because we don't have a break until the second week of March after MLK Day.

Frog: Congratulations on your success. I admire you for having the discipline to train and run that distance. A friend of ours recently ran a marathon in Australia and that completed her goal of running on every continent. I can't imagine!

Cat: I'm also one of those exercise-motivatedly challenged people. I have a great elliptical/bike combo machine right here behind my love seat and still can't get my butt off the couch and on the machine. Maybe if we all started posting on the exercise board afterwards, we could get each other going.

It was back to the grind of school today, although we won't have students until thursday. The title of my post says it all about the day back after a two week break.

The scales are not my friend this week. I'm up two pounds but I think they're just keeping me humble. This happened right after Thanksgiving and my patience won out so I keep telling myself that it will again.

My DH gave me a Palm Pilot for Christmas so I'm able to keep a food journal much more easily. Now I just have to remember to get it out of my purse and input the food as soon as I eat it. I know I have to start exercising daily. I want to lose this weight by June so I will look good on our vacation:D

Well, now that I'm a working woman again, it's time to hit the hay.

Have a Terrific Tuesday everybody!

Rosalie 01-08-2002 12:06 AM

Evening all

Frog - Congrats on finishing the race. Too bad that the weather didn't stay good for you. You should be very proud of your achievement. Hope you had a safe trip home and got dried out and rested. How are the tootsies?

Sounds like you all had a truly wonderful get-together and all that food sounds delicious. I'm looking forward to seeing lots of pics.

Deb - I made the Almond Granola on the weekend. Turned out real good - I was munching it all day yesterday. I need to put a padlock on the container. :lol: I actually made two batches, the first one per your recipe with the agave. As I am almost to the end of my agave and can't find any more in the store I thought I would experiment so I made another batch using apple juice in place of the agave. It turned out great also, even though it was less sweet than the one with the agave.

Quilter - Hi - it's good to hear from you. Are you thinking of getting back on the wagon again? I always looked forward to reading your posts.

This has to be brief as I have to hit the sack soon as I have to get up early for work tomorrow. Will have a busy day as I will be going out right after dinner to badminton. Played a few games this evening too. The board's so busy to-day it has taken me a long time to read all the posts. I enjoyed reading the descriptions of the fabulous weekend. I've had a good day - stayed op. Made spaghetti sauce for dinner to-day - ds had ww spaghetti but I had mine on spaghetti squash. Just have to keep those starchy carbs down. Was really good at work to-day. Someone opened another box of cookies and I didn't even eat one.

Bye for now.


Zanne 01-08-2002 12:20 AM

Already 2 pages!!!
Really busy here today!

I finished doing Day 1 of BFL--upper body workout. Ooch, ouch. My back and shoulder muscles are sore and I finished about 3 hours ago. I'm actually up waiting for the ibuprofin to kick in.

Some of you were looking for motivation to keep exercising. With my experience, I have found that when I am exercising almost every day, that I'm not eating as much or have the cravings for the junk food that I get when I've not been exercising. So exercising makes it easier to stay OP, staying OP means weight and/or inches lost. Hope this helps a little.

Debelli Thanks for the reminder on the grape juice. I was thinking of substitutes for the "sweet" and just remembered grape juice from some other recipes. Didn't even think if it was legal or not. Would apple juice concentrate be better?

Nomore WELCOME! Congrats on the pound down. Glad you could stay OP at the restaurant.

Mel I'll email you with more details, but I'm sure feeling the workout now:dizzy: But I think I'll try to do the workouts earlier in the day, so I can sleep at night!

Quilter Nice to meet ya! I've been here since September. Please don't feel like you have to stay away just because other life issues take presidence(sp?--it's late) over SB. You can share your SB wisdom with newcomers and we can try to give you support or an ear with whatever, not just SB. Hope you stay around.

Crickett WTG on the 14 gone! How long are you going away for? Sounds like a very interesting and very rewarding trip.

Ok, that's it for me. Eyes are drooping and the ibuprofin seems to have helped the muscle aches. So off to beddy bye I go.

Nite nite.

Rhroo 01-08-2002 07:14 AM

Just another quick post because its 7 a.m and i had to work last night till 1:00 a.m waaaaa:dizzy: can't wait to get everyone off and then walk then rest! Probably won't sleep cuz ya know how long kindergarteners go to school! LOL
Yesterday was a good day made my pita pizza for lunck-feels like i am getting back with the S.B's I was probably sugarfree yesterday! woooooooo hoooo!!! Today I hope will be good too. Nothing really planned for the next few weeks to get in my way! I guess thats really the only tip i have is to have a "game plan" for when you do go out or to someones house or church or so on..... I have read things and "they" have said---drink lots of water before you go-eat a salada before you go-wear your tightest pants and a cute belt so you don't have much room! I say do what you want!!! LOL NOOOOOOOOO!!!! Just stay on program and if you overeat -leagally it can be fixed by maybe an extra day of excersise or just cutting back the next day RIGHT! why should we suffer-even though food should not be the only way we have a good time its been said here time and time again to enjoy the company your with!!!!! Hope thats a "tip"!!!!

Deb-the kids DO NOT have to make up the time at the end-sounds good though! I asked someone if there was extended day for teen agers the other day!!!!! LOL I have those kids who come home and don't really go to friends and so on! Its nice but sometimes i would like to get rid of the bigger ones!!! MY daughter didn't have school and that was like old times! She is the one that wanted to go!!! As far as the "delay" they do that so they don't miss the whole day and have to make it up in the summer!

Zanne- glad u liked the site! Yeah on day one :) very proud of you! I hope you take pictures (not in undies though!) and measurements!

Rosalie- hope batmitton was fun!

Frog-WOOOO HOOOOOO yeah for you! take a pic of the medal!!! PLease! you must feel soooooo good and an inspiration for us all!

Jred- you can get back with us! palm pilot sounds cool!


Quilter---- ;) how are you?????? Glad you said hi!

Nomoresugar- Sounds like you had a great time with your friends. Keep up the great work with Sugarbusters!!! Its nice to have others with you that are trying to get healthy too!

Sef- what ya gonna buy with those gift certificates??? You can do this!!!! and have fun with the rewards!!

Gotta go wake up my daughter this was suposed to be short humph!!!!! Hi everyone i wanted to write to you all!!!!! have a great day good luck tomorrow in WIW is anyone chatting tonight???????


Debelli 01-08-2002 07:52 AM

Good Tuesday Morning All:wave:

Well, it's a wee bit too cold for me to tackle the daily walk/jog at this time, only 40 degrees out there and windy like a hurricane, so I figured I'd come post now and jog later when it warms up a tad bit.

Scale has inched it's way back down another pound, another thing to motivate me to journal and drink my water and stay in line. I was getting pist seeing the scale staying up even though I knew it would go back down again, so now I'm happier to see the lower end of my cushion:D

This weeks MOTIVATIONAL MONDAY was a good one, I think. I am printing this one out and sticking it on the fridge. It's worth reading over and over again. I though it was one of the best MM messages to date!

I forgot to mention FROG is still in Orlando vacationing and is leaving Thursday to return home. I know she was going to try to access getting on a computer while away, but we may have to wait until she returns and settles back in.

JRED, it would be wonderful if you could make the Oct. get together, definitely would be more relaxing and fun, moreso than the work of a marathon-but I'm going to try to do both. We were discussing the NC get together-the place sleeps 36 and has a huge kitchen-can you just imagine the SB LEGAL FOOD we could all prepare!! It will definitely be something you won't wanna miss coming to in Oct.! Is there a program for the palm pilot for journaling. I've never used one, so not sure how they function.

ROSALIE, sounds like you have the same disease as I do when it comes to portion control and the granola!:lol: Glad you liked the recipe, it's so easy and delicious. Really works those jaws when you eat it, eh? Hey, you know that I can always ship some agave up to you if need be, just let me know! Wish Eli's sister would make a trip down here, then I could send it back with her-if that comes around any time in the near future and the agave is still available, it would be a good thing to do!

ZANNE, I too believe that exercise helps curb the appetite. Right now, I'm hungry and usually I don't get hungry until I return from my walks! Any fruit concentrate is more concentrated in sugars, look at the grams of sugar in a serving of whatever you are using-scarey! It also depends of the amount you use and the serving size. If it falls under the 3gram rule, then I guess it would be okay, but personally, I haven't used any of that stuff, at least that I can remember.

RHROO, that's great you had a SB LEGAL day yesterday! Hope you do as well today:)

Please remember TONIGHT IS CHAT AT 9:15PM EST Hope to see you all there!!!

Also, can't forget to remind you that TOMORROW IS WEIGH IN WEDNESDAY!!!!! I wish you all luck on the scale!!!

Well, gotta go yell at Lauren once again to get up and in the shower. Where Michael never has a problem waking up (actually, he didn't sleep all night, had so much homework, he's going to be a zombie at school today), Lauren LOVES to sleep, and sleep, and sleep!:rolleyes: Takes forever to get her up!!!!

Have a great day!

SB since 3/22/00
Reached gola 6/10/01

SolShine 01-08-2002 09:56 AM

GREETINGS!!! DARN COLD HERE!! Had to put the sheets on the plants again last night. This is Florida – we’re not supposed to have this kind of cold weather. FROG and DH will be here in O-Town playing around all week. I hope it warms up so they can ride the water rides if they go to the theme parks. FROG probably won’t be on the board until they get home. I did print out the posts from Friday last week until today to take to the hotel for her to see all the well wishes and greetings from everyone. I know I wouldn’t be able to catch up after a week of being off the board and you all have said such kind words that it would do her heart good to read them. Meister and I are hoping to catch up with them this week for lunch or dinner while they are still in town. I can’t tell you how wonderfully sweet and fun they are! Like DEBBIE I really wish all of us on the board lived closer to each other.

I’m still on a high from this week-end! You’d have thought I ran the marathon with all the energy and motivation I have. I think it’s from being around all these SUPER WOMEN! I’ve started on my plan for training for the half marathon and I’ll be alternating weight training days with walking days. My first goal is to just get faster at walking the 3.5 mile loop around our neighborhood and then I’ll start adding distance. On Saturdays I’ll start adding distance. OMG, now I’ve posted it! I’m completely accountable to you all for my training. :eek:

We’re STILL eating leftovers from the week-end! Today I brought some MORE of the pasta ZSU ZSU made. It’s sooo good! For a variation I’ve brought some of the Rotel Dip to put on top of it.

ZANNE and MELERIS – BFL sounds interesting and very intense. Don’t know that I’m ready for anything like that. Thanks for keeping us posted on your experiences with it. I think I’m going to have my hands full training for the half marathon next year at WDW with DEBBIE and everyone else who can make it. I hope you’ll be in that group!

MELIRIS – I WILL NOT even think about the full marathon! The HALF will be challenging enough for this big ole butt. PLEASE join us! It’s soooo much fun to spectate, but to PARTICIPATE --- I can hardly wait! FROGGIE is so inspirational – how could we NOT be motivated? CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR LOW!!! How thrilling for you!! Size 6 from a size 16?!?!? AMAZING!! You’ll be breathing in those 6’s in no time!

RHOO Soo glad to see you!! I know as a kid we liked the snow days way more than my parents did! I’m going to check out that link, too. Not interested in BFL, but always interested in hearing from people who have achieved weight loss goals. I think our “My Story” thread will be very well read.

DEBBIE – WOOOO HOOOOO!!!!! WAY TO GO ON YOUR 44:20!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You know that Vince has to read all the posts since meeting everyone. I think he may be a lurker for a while. :lol: He says CONGRATS!! And WOW!! On your time!! Very Impressive!! He said that taking the time off to rest is very important and good. He said it’s more common in cycling for riders to take proper rests between work-outs to get the most distance and best time out of their rides, but that it benefits everyone. You know I don’t mind those rests – the problem is I rest more than work-out. :rolleyes: THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THIS WEEK-END!!! For bringing the tons of goodies, the falafal mix, tahini, WW pitas, t-shirts – for taking all the pictures – for just being YOU! And for getting to be around you so much this week-end. It truly was a joy! You said I’d be prepared to RUN with y’all next year????? You’re VERY mistaken! I’ll be WALKING the half marathon next year. I expect you JOGGERS/RUNNERS will have to wait for me at the finish line with your medals around your necks!

BIGKNIGHTSMOMMA Thank you for the kind words!! Looking forward to seeing you more since you and ZSU ZSU are so close! We may have to become avid UCF Football fans now that we have a Knight to root for!

VIV Good to see you! Looking forward to hearing how wonderful the “new” house is. I’ll be checking out that site you posted, too.

JMUIR – Hope you’re feeling better soon!

TV Don’t be fooled, Debbie didn’t drink water on Sunday because she didn’t want to have to use a PORT-A-POTTY!! :lol:

TREE CONGRATULATIONS on the new job!!!! SOOO GOOD TO SEE YOU BACK! It’s so important to ljike what we do and who we do it with since we’re there almost all day. Glad you’ll be moving to a place where they’ll appreciate how wonderful you are.

NANCE-MEISTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUDDY –O-PAL-O-MINE! WELCOME BACK!! Guess we’re climbing back on that wagon together. Tell BOB to turn the radio up, I really like this song.

[b]NOMORESUGAR[b] Welcome!! You’re definitely in the right place for support and answers.

CRICKETT Wow! 14 lbs. Even through the holdiays?!? You have my respect!! Can’t wait to hear about your trip. I’m sure that if you’ve been able to make it through the holidays you‘ll be able to make it under any situation!

SHEANN – Here’s your goal for next year – HALF MARATHON at WDW with the SB GANG! That’s ½ way to a full marathon before you turn 50! THEN in 2 years you can make the FULL MARATHON!

PRAVADA WELCOME! You resisted 3 Kings Cake? WAY TO GO!! Yes, it is amazing how many things have sugar in them. Just reading labels can get depressing at first, but there are so many things we CAN eat that the disappointment is only temporary. I, too, recommend using FitDay and trying some new recipes to find the ones that you like best and work best with your schedule. It looks like you aren’t eating enough, but I don’t know how much you weigh. Do you know how many calories you normally eat and what percentage of fat, carb, protein it is for the day? That might help us give you more pertinent information.

SEF I just love your posts! You always put things in perspective. Can’t wait to meet you one day soon, I hope! Please put October and/or January in your “to do” list!

BUSDEB – I hope to get to meet you in person, too! I think so highly of everyone who posts on here that when I meet them in person they always exceed my expectations so much that I can’t wait to meet the next person! Please put October and/or January in your “to do” list, too!

CATLOVER The floor sounds neat! I’m going to have to look up that kind of flooring. I want to get that Pergo wood flooring for our living room one day. I like my carpet, so the bedrooms will have to be carpeted, but I wouldn’t mind wood in the “common rooms”.

QUILTER – BIG HUGS FOR YOU!!!! I’ve been away more than I’ve been here, meeself, but BOB is still driving the wagon and there’s always room for one more! Glad to see you back! FROG and DH were awesome!! You would be inspired exponentially to see them in person. Start training with me and we can cross the half marathon finish line together!

MARIE I hope you’re much further away from the 200 lb. mark than I am at this point! I’m going to have to be perfect to catch up with you, but after seeing FROG and getting to spend so much time with all the other wonderful gals on this board I KNOW I can certainly be better than I was! I hope you get to make it down this way for one of our meetings! I’d love to spend a HALF MARATHON getting to know you better! :lol:

:wave: Have a Great Day! Greetings to all I didn't get to!

catlover 01-08-2002 10:12 AM

WIW- no change from last week

I dont think I am eating enough , which has prompted me to use Fitday again. I need help in figuring out how much fat ,carbs and protein I am allowed a day. I weigh 180 lbs.

Deb has figured this out in the past, and I am embarrassed to have to ask her again, so someone please help me.

Fillise 01-08-2002 11:13 AM

Tuesday morning

It is so great to read about the weekend in Orlando--I'm happy for everyone (but jealous for me!). I wish I could have been there.

Frog--Renee and Bill--Congrats on finishing the race--and with a new time too. WooooHoooo! I hope you have fun in O town and that your feet stop hurting soon!

I'm so glad old SB board members and new members got to meet this weekend--and the food sounds yummy. I haven't checked the recipe boards yet--but we will see recipies won't we?

I have to keep this short. I'm heading to the hospital in an hour for and MRI. I woke up with a sore neck last week and now the Dr thinks it might be a hearneated disk. Ick. Will let you know more when I get the results back on Thursday.

I'll try to post a little later. I'm doing well staying on program--so hopefully will be posting some losses soon!


TVthatsME 01-08-2002 11:41 AM

Hello everybody!!!

Wow – the board is active this week, guess we are all getting back into the swing of things now!!

I’m proud today because I got all of my water in yesterday and I even exercised for about 20 minutes last night!! I’m trying to stay motivated even through TOM, which is due to visit at any moment.

Is anyone else having a hard time with getting back to a 5 day work week this week??? After 2 short weeks, 5 days seems like an eternity!!

Mel – Hip Hip Hooray for you on the 141 and squeezing into the size 6 jeans – that’s TOTALLY AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Deb – Great job on the newest best jog time – you are forever breaking your own records! Water??? BTW a little bird said that you didn’t drink on Sunday because of a potty availability issue, LOL! For shame…… I don’t blame you one bit!

Sol – or should I call you little birdie, ha ha! That is a great one you told on Deb. I’m gonna let her off the hook this time because I don’t like those portables either – YUCK!

Tree – Sounds like you made a good choice in changing jobs when you did! Glad things are looking up for you!

Nomoresugar – WELCOME!

Crickett – Great job on the 14 lbs. I just hit the 15 lb mark myself a few weeks ago (before the holidays, oops).

Pravada – WAY TO GO on resisting temptation!!! It can be really hard sometimes, but don’t you feel so much better knowing that you were able to overcome the urge?!?!?!

Sef – Your “HIDEHO” always puts a smile on my face! Good idea on using the gift certificates as self rewards.

Cat – Sounds like we are anticipating some of the same projects. I want to re-do my bedroom and bathroom COMPLETELY and make some changes in my 4 yr old DS’s room.

Bus – Do you go to B-ham to hit the mall or H-ville? I found some good buys too. Sounds like you have done well so I’m sure WIW will be good for you!

Zanne – Thanks for the motivation on exercise – I need all of that I can get!!!

Rhoo – get some sleep before you conk out!!!

Fillise – have you thawed out yet?? I didn’t see a flake up here until this past Sunday and it melted right away…… Good luck on the MRI – hope it turns out to be something easy to treat!

Hello to all I missed – Gotta run

pravda 01-08-2002 12:11 PM


I do not know how many calories I am getting each day. How do I figure that out? I have not a clue about any of this. I am so new to this concept, I am not even sure if I am doing anything right. I have cut out obvious sugars, and carbs, but other than that, I am not sure what else to do.
Everything I read has sugar in it, of some kind.
I know that protein is usually safe as long as it is LF or FF.
I am trying to stay with WW or whole grain breads, crackers.
I went to Fitday.com, not too sure how to read that chart either. I weight 262. I am 5'3. I am medium build, not too small frame. I hope that helps you get a picture of me. I would like any advise or help on this. I also have PCOS
Thanks for all the help you guys have given so far on this issue.

jmuir9668 01-08-2002 12:20 PM

One day down, 4 to go
Well, I've made it to Tuesday. TVthatsMe , I agree that it is hard to get back to a 5 day week. My days are all screwed up, I had a hard time remembering what day it was this morning.

For dinner last night, I had sloppy joes on triscuits. The sauce can said it had some sugar in it, but it didn't seem too high. Hope it was okay.

I had my two cups of green tea and couple glasses of water (less than I should, I know). Something must have been working though because I was visiting the loo like a mad woman yesterday. Also had more energy when I got home and went on a cleaning tear. My husband looked at me like I had gone insane (needless to say, I'm not a cleaner).

Anyway, hope everyone has a great Tuesday and is on track for a good WIW.

Talk at ya later.


sef 01-08-2002 12:26 PM

HiedieHo All!

I'd like to say I will never cheat again! Has anyone else found it hard to get back on plan? I'm doing it but it's a fight with myself!! It's harder than when I first decided on this woe! I know it's mind-set, mind over matter....if I don't mind-it DOES matter!

Thought I'd get in a post now. I have Women's Association Bible Study this afternoon. Have some spaghetti sauce in freezer, homemade, SB legal so will have that for supper. Throw it in crock pot to thaw. Changed mind last night and baked salmon instead of poaching it, really goood.

BUS - What's Dixie's problem? Apparently you can ride her. Maybe she's not an easy ride?

CAT - You should have my son! He seems to have an innate talent for selecting colors or deciding what walls should have what color. Whenever they get into a painting frenzy we tease him about being an interior decorator, not a manly "career" as far as he's concerned. He's happiest when there's grease and oil involved. yet he hates to crack an egg because the white is UGH! Go figure! So far his choices have worked out. DIL has ideas too, but if she's indecisive ds makes the choice.

QUILT - You're not oldy/moldy!! You have enthusiasm and humor which you have always brought to the Board. I know I owe you a note, but don't feel bad you are in good company!! I am starting to get reprimands from my correspondents that I owe letters to. I just got behind over the holidays and have to catch up.

TREE - Nice sample menu for newbies, reminder for us "Oldbies"! When I left job to move with ds, the last day everyone came to work wearing a hat! On dress down Fridays I would design a hat with a theme - Nat'l Sewing Month, Cheesehead for GreenBay Packers game, a roof with Santa going down the chimney; staff thought they would honor me with their hats! Don't uou know I had a pancreas attack and had to miss the party! I was so disappointed. but too sick to care at the time.

MEL - Impressed by size 6. I had same experience with the size 18, got them on just couldn't sit! Thwey're my goal!! We will make it!!

SUGAR - I was brought up in Collingwood Park. It is 7 mi. from Asbury Park and 10 mi. from Freehold, I went to Mansquan H.S. and Monmouth University in Long Branch, only it was a Junior College then! Many people hear Collingwood Park and not listening think Collingswood which is near Camden.

DEB - You obviously don't live in the real south! King Cakes come out on the Twelfth Day. Starts the Mardi Gras season. Many Krewes choose their king and queen by the eating of the cake to see who gets the little baby figurine that is baked in it. They are sort of like a citron struedel, with white icing that is sectioned off with green, yellow and purple sugar sprinkled on.....a SB nightmare! In six weeks one bakery here feels they will sell thousands of the cakes!

JRED - Kids don't exactly rejoice about the return to school either! So many people think teachers just work the school hours, forgetting about lesson plans, after school activities, etc. Know how hard teachers work! Have several friends who teach.

ROSALIE - I see that name and think of Nelson Eddy and Jeanette MacDonald (the youngsters on this Board are saying "Who?")

See, when we set our minds we can resist cookies!!

ZANNE - I know when I was walking, that if I had to miss for some reason it was a part of my day missing! I know you're right!

RHROO - You're right too about needing a game plan! I've learned to take things to potluck dinners that I can have whether others will eat it or not!

About school delays, I know in PA they would have school for a couple of hours just so they could get state funds, if school wasn't in session a certain length of time they would have to make up day. Sometimes they would have school even though it was starting to snow and prediction was bad, families that lived on back roads just would not send their kids.

I don't have any definite plans for gift certificates, other than some new Just My Size panties. I've already gone down 4 sizes! Will just buy what I need as I go along. Someday a pair of slacks or a skirt with a real fitted waitband!!

SOL - We have had a couple of hard freezes here and have been covering plants too. It's amazing though, how the pansies stand up to the frost!

In October I hope to be able to make a trip back home. I do get homesick now and then. I would like to see my old friends. After doing that will never be able to afford January. I will just have to live vicariously through all your reports!

CAT - Never be embarrassed to ask a question!! The only dumb question is the one not asked!! I don't know how to figure out those proportions either, I just eat! As you can tell or I wouldn't have to be here!!

FILLISE - Please let us know the results of MRI. Hope it is a open machine. I have had MRIs and they can be a little intimidating. Once I get settled though it's okay, I just feel a little panicky at first. Did you do something that might have caused a herniated disk or did it just happen?

Well I'd better go get that sauce out of the freezer or I will have to think of something else for supper that might include work!!!

Hope to make chat tonight, it has been a while!

Take care. sef

Nomoresugar 01-08-2002 02:04 PM

Oh my is it cold!:( You would think, having been raised in the north that I would be used to cold weather - but I have never liked being cold! Now you northern gals may not think 40-55 is cold - but we here in south Florida sure aren't used to it. I started today with hot cereal - the Mix Ahead Oatmeal. I don't recall which of the many folders I got the recipe from - if you want it, let me know and I will post it!

Debby - I lived in Coral Springs for 28 years! Moved there when there was one traffic light and a small Publix - a very very small Publix. I will check out the Whole Foods when I am next there visiting the son, dil and grandkids! I did see a post somewhere where GNC could get Agave syrup and will try that up here. Boynton Beach is north of Delray which is north of Boca! I live right between the turnpike and 95 - and can get to Coral Springs via Tpk in 25-30 minutes.

The Sugarbusters Saturday morning support group is listed on our bulletin board and in house tv station and I cannot tell you how many ask me about this WOE. And now that I am back into my size 10 clothes (and will get into the 8's again!), the difference is showing and I think more and more will try this.

I cannot thank you all enough for the warm welcome! I think those of us who have been doing SB for a long time will agree with me when I say to the new gals that it is more what you can eat than what you cannot. I am never hungry and find that I really have no desire to eat cookies or cake. While I do miss a freshly baked country bread - I can do without it. If you concentrate on what you are allowed to eat and not think about the "forbidden foods' - this is soooo easy to do!

Debelli 01-08-2002 02:37 PM

Hey All:wave:

Well, I finally got my arse out and did my 4.5 miles, but didn't get out til about 1pm! Then I had wished I would of gone earlier, thought it was colder out there-and once I started my jogs, it warmed up pretty darned quick and I was a sweatin! I have a NEW SECOND BEST TIME OF 45:00:spin: Not as good as yesterday, but still a great time!!! Needless to say, I'm thrilled!!

My Dad called me this morning to tell me he saw an article about the WDW Marathon in the newspaper and he said they printed all 18,500 of the runners names in it! I didn't ask him which newspaper it was, he goes to the library, so it may be the Miami Herald, may not. I asked him to get a copy for me so I could get it to FROG if she didn't see it.

AND, Eli met with his boss yesterday and told him about the WDW Marathon. He said his boss was suprised Starbucks people weren't in it and that he wanted Eli to call this other guy who would be the person to go through so STARBUCKS would sponsor people for next year, so maybe we can all be TEAM STARBUCKS!!!!!! That would be so cool! I'll let you know what, if anything arises from this call Eli made to the guy.

Guess what??? One week and my kitchen, dining room and family room are still clean!!:spin: Not counting my living room, that's always clean! Kids are even helping me a bit more to keep it tidy.

SOL, guess your house must still look like it has 3 dead bodies laying in the front lawn! LOL!!! Yes, you have now put it in print that you are going to be in the marathon, so no turning back now! I guess with VINCE reading the board, I don't have to call and tell him you've COMMITTED to doing it next year;) (BTW, tell him I said thanks for the congrats!). I'm sure he'll even help you train. Who knows if you will walk or jog the length, look at me, I only started to incorporate little bouts of jogging in my walking routine just this past May, so you may just surprise yourself! You are more than welcome for everything, the least I could do! You'll have to let me know when you make the falafels and how you like that mix. I hope you and/or GATOR get to see FROG & BILL before they head back to NC-definitely keep us informed if you get to see them, and please, give her a big ol hug for me!!! BTW, she LOVED the slippers!!! And they were the right size!!!! Hey, are you ratting on me????????? Okay, after you exited with and "ick" and telling me there was no paper in the port-a-potty, could you even blame me???? I know, I was bad with the water, but I made up for some of it yesterday;)

CAT, LOL, it's only Tuesday, hop back on the scale tomorrow!!! You can ask me to help figure things out for you again, I don't mind, just e-mail me the info, current weight and goal weight, that's all I need:)

FILLISE, I know you'd of loved to of joined us, but at least you know when we talk about FROG, what we are saying is so true, since you too have had the pleasure of meeting her-isn't she a trip!?! As for the recipes, I know as far as I'm concerned, all but the CHEESECAKE RECIPE is on there, and that will be added by Thursday;) Good luck with the MRI, do make sure you let us know what the results are when you get them on Thursday, I'll pray it's nothing serious!

TV, yes, guilty as charged with the water, not just on Sunday, but for the entire weekend. I did take an entire bottle with me but didn't take a sip-no way was I going in those port-a-potties, no TP, no handwashing-UGH!!!!!!!!! No, I nicely held it in til we could make a decent pit stop. Did lots better yesterday and going to drink a bottle now, as I type out this post. Thanks for keeping tabs on me:)

PRAVDA, the only way you are going to know how many calories you are taking in is either logging your intake on a site like www.fitday.com, or doing a paper journal. Though, some people like combinig SB with using the WW points, or the Richard Simmons Deal-A-Meal cards, or his newer window thingie, so they don't have to count calories, but still, this gives a good idea. SB doesn't say to do this, but personally, I do feel it's important. Many people haven't a clue how much their caloric intake is and eating too little is just as bad as eating too much. If your intake is too little, your metabolism is going to slow down and you eventually will stop losing. For instance, if your intake is 1000 calories, and you should be taking in about 1500 calories, your in a deficit of 500 calories. You body may lower your metabolism to get by on 800 calories, banking the extra and storing it as fat. I eat approx. 1400 calories a day, sometimes more. If you wanted to stay your current weight, to stay at that weight you'd be taking in approx. 3145 calories, taking in that you are moderately active. Most so-called "experts" agree not to lower that number more than 500-700 calories, so even if you went with an average of 600 calories, your intake should not be lower than say 2550, which is a lot of calories. You would lose weight eating that much. As the scale goes down, you got down calorically, little by little. Now, say you were eating 3145 calories and now you are eating 1000, you've cut your caloric intake by 2/3, over 2000 calories less and your body would probably go into starvation mode. Anyhow, not trying to confuse you, or make it sound hard, because it's not, and not everyone does this, this is just how I do it. I can figure out, if you want the total grams of fat, carbs & proteins if you want.

JMUIR, I know that running to the potty feeling you had yesterday, I had the same feelings on Saturday. I was making pit stops at all the Turnpike Plazas, as soon as I got back in the car and on the road, I had to go again! Had some tea this morning, not use to caffeine and drinking anything much but water and it too seemed to go right through me!

SEF, can I get that in writing????? Exactly what you said about cheating and trying to get back OP is exactly the reason I'm so deathly afraid of doing that. I know how I am and it would be so hard for me to get back OP if I did a major cheat. I'm sure you'll be back OP 100% soon-right??? Okay, now that you explained this cake, what the heck are Krewes? And isn't anyone afraid of choking on this little baby figurine??? That would be just my luck, trying to cheat on a piece of that cake and choking on a baby!!! LOL!!

SUGAR, (hope you don't mind me shortening your name), I agree, it's too cool for me down here as well. So, really, you aren't far at all from Miami. My Aunt-in-Law's mother lives in Delray, so that area I do know somewhat. I've never seen a GNC carry agave, so I'm surprised to see they'd be able to order some-worth a try to see if they can get it for you as well, but def. find out the price first. Where I buy mine it's $2.59 a bottle and if you buy a case, they'll give you another 10% off. If you want, e-mail me your snail mail addy and I'll send you some samples, it's a little less sweet than the one I get from the HFS, but at least you can see what it tastes like. I would call the WHOLE FOODS off Atlantic and see if they stock it, though I'd be surprised if they didn't, as the other 2 stores I've been in of theirs does carry it. You can call them and just ask them to hold some bottles for you, or order a case. They're up to $2.79 a bottle there. I totally agree with what you said about not dwelling on what you can't eat, and look at all you can. Hey, you can always have that fresh made bread, that is, if you like to bake!!

Okay, time for me to hit the showers before I have to go get the kids.

See you all later at chat!!!!!

SB since 3/22/00
Reached goal 6/10/01

Mel 01-08-2002 05:36 PM

Tuesday (I think!)
Cat really had me confused this morning when I saw her WIW post- I actually had to go look at a calendar to see what I did for the last few days to make sure it was Tuesday. This has been the first week I could figure out which day it was, so I didn't want to get lost already! Felt like early dementia.

Well I definitely spoke too soon about the BFL Upper Body workout not being challenging enough- boy are my triceps sore today! Good thing I don't have a tennis game til Thursday, cause I'd have to toss the ball over the net to serve!

Pravda- listen to the master! (Deb). Everytime I've stopped losing, it's because I'm starving myself. Also how I gained so much weight to start with. YEARS of 700 calorie diets and long runs put me in a permanent state of starvation so that when I did eat "normally" my body tucked it away and hoarded that fat for all it was worth just in case another famine might come along! Now I eat way more than I used to when "dieting" and for the first time ever, feel I can keep it off without impossible starvation or insane workouts. (though that's a pretty subjective statement).

Sef- Maybe I missed it, but still don't have an answer on what is Little Christmas? Totally agree on the cheating and getting back OP. I didn't do much illegal food cheating, but had way too much legal stuff and more fatty foods than I should have (ILOVE cheese!). It's been tough trying to get portions back to normal and avoid a dip in the triscuits and cheddar every time I walk through the kitchen.

Deb- Many camping and backpacking trips taught me 1) always carry toilet paper; 2) then add the water if there is room left in your pack. PRIORITIES! TEAM STARBUCKS? sign me up!

Sugar- (great nickname:lol:) I don't think I've welcomed you to the board. Sounds like you are a very sucessful SB mentor! You must feel good helping people who want to be helped with this WOL. I must have been asked about 30 times over the holidays what on earth I'd been doing to look so much better, but when I started talking about it, about 28 of them started to look panicked at the answers and insisted eating this way would just be impossible and they'd just go back to WW in January. I find WW impossible, plus you have to pay for it.

It's really cold here- about 5 inches of snow and ice yesterday- and yes SEF, we had a 2 hour delay so the school could count it as an "open" day for state funding. A couple of times last year they did a 2 hour delay, then sent the kids home right away. We have a very hilly neighborhood and our elementary bus driver would tell us at the bus stop to just not put the kids on because she didn't think the trip through the neighborhood twice was safe.

Sol- so nice to see your enthusiastic posts again! I hope you stay with us.

BTW, I ordered a case of agave from Frankferd Farms yesterday and the woman said "boy, we're sure getting a lot of case orders lately!" I just said oh, really? I've made the carob almond bars a few times, and as long as I freeze individually wrapped squares, I don't get myself into trouble.

Gotta go figure out whats for dinner,


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