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Debelli 01-08-2002 08:44 PM

Evening All:wave:

Quick post before I make Lauren something to eat, and before CHAT AT 9:15PM EST!!!

MEL, I've been in the same boat with low fat diets in the past, not eating enough, seeing an initial loss and then stalling. I'd get pissed, start eating like I had been and gain it all back and then some. People tried to tell me that I wasn't eating enough and I just couldn't seem to fathom that concept that eating more was better-how I wish I'd listened, but at least I know this now:) Well, does it help that I usually carry some TP in the car, not to mention toilet seat covers in my purse-just hate to even see a dirty restroom-GROSS!:eek: Did you order anything else from FRANKFERD? I see RXFORWELLNESS is no longer carrying agave due to shortages they said. Hopefully, FRANKFERD will keep in in stock as long as possible. How was the shipping costs for you-shouldn't be too bad since you are near.

Hoping to see many of you in the chat room tonight. Here's the link to the chat rooms, just click on the SB ROOM and in you go!!!!


And once again-good luck for tomorrow's WEIGH IN WEDNESDAY!!!!!

SB since 3/22/00
Reached goal 6/10/01

zsuzsuu 01-08-2002 08:59 PM

hi everyone,

sorry haven't posted until now. what a great day we had on saturday. I really enjoyed meeting everyone.It was very nice for sol to open up her house to us.I feel like I have known frog sol gator and deb for a long time instead of just meeting them. I like that when i am talking about my struggles with the weight that they really understand. going out to eat is good also because we all eat the same way. my friends dont get my eating and even though they are supportive they still try to tell me its okay if i treat myself which sometimes when iam weak it enables me to cheat. Well know i probably have not conveyed how much the weekend really meant to me but i have rough couple days. worked 16 hrs yesterday. back up at 530am then came home tonight to have a sreaming match with my 10 year old nephew who we are raising. he spent christmas break a week with each parent with no rules. so now there is **** to pay until he gets the picture that he is back to where there are rules. he plays this game when ot comes to homework if i act dumb enough then aunt sue will just tell me the answers WRONG ANSWER. anyway then had to girl scout meeting now of to pick up mother from airport she comes in at 1000pm then to bed to be up at 530am sorry you all just a little bit frustrated the worst part is the only thing i can pictur right now is a bowl of vanilla icecream with hot fudge whip cream cherries nuts and choclate chavings not good i think i will have a orange got to go maybe tomm. i will be in better frame of mind.


sef 01-08-2002 10:19 PM

HiedieHo all

Just a quick one to say I enjoyed the chat. Been a while since I joined in.

DEB - A Krewe, as far as I can tell, is just another name for Club. To belong to a Krewe is not for the poor. A community club I belonged to would have a ball with King and Queen, would cost the queen about $1,500 for expenses. Krewes sponsor floats in parades, many have their own parades. If a Krewe is big enough a celeberty may ride as king/queen on their float. So when you see news reels of Mardi Gras parades, there can be two or three in N.O. on one day, they are all sponsored by a club.

MEL - You're right! In Milford it was only the townies who would show up at school, they had a level run in the snow!

Little Christmas is called a couple of things. It is Epithany or the Twelfth Day of Christmas. To many ethnic groups it is more important than Christmas Day and presents are exchanged then.

Ouch, I just realized what a full day I have tomorrow! Have to get up and make 10# mashed potatoes for church friends who had a death in the family, then do librarian work for choir, a slew of copies, and then choir practice tomorrow night. So might not be around here tomorrow!!!!

Take care all. sef

tree 01-09-2002 01:12 AM

zsuzsuu - your " bowl of vanilla ice cream with hot fudge whip cream cherries nuts and chocolate shavings" can be changed to NSA vanilla ice cream w/ nutrasweet hot fudge syrup or Torani/DaVinci's SF chocolate syrup, cherries, nuts, and oops well, can't do the chocolate shavings! :s: Well, maybe the orange is better.... My standby for "gotta have goodies" was Debelli's peanut butter ball recipe mixed up and thinned with extra milk (not refrigerated) then used as a syrup over NSA vanilla ice cream. Debelli goes for the fresh carbolite ice cream. The frozen packaged ones aren't bad, you have to defrost them a little in the microwave to get the best taste though.

Re: Agave Nectar - I ordered mine in a 6lb pail from St. Pats of Texas, <www.stpats.com>, they are a reputable brewers supplier for wine/beer/mead. I ordered the Tequiza Agave Nectar (it's the light, they also have amber/dark) for $16 + 7.60 w/ shipping. No handling charges. You can order a min of 1lb to max of 13lb/pail, you pay $2.50/lb + $1 for pail. Texans pay sales tax.

Sef - too bad you missed your goodbye party. :( The hat thing is really cute, it sounds like you left a lot of good friends. I hope to keep in touch with my old co-workers, I've been badgering them for email addys.
The first no-no :nono: that happens when I get rushed, is I don't eat b'fast. It's too easy to skip, and yet eating b'fast is one of the best things you can do.

Mel - I think and almost sz 6 should count as a sz 6! The trick is to look for different brands (don't try Jordache jeans, they're typically 1 size smaller than they state- I found that out the hard way). Congrats to you!

jmuir - someone told me once - if you're dehydrated, and then drink a lot of water, you'll have to go to the loo a lot. But if you're well hydrated, that doesn't happen. I don't know how true that is. Most people in Arizona are dehydrated anyways. Besides, I believe I own the world's smallest bladder! My fav comment to guys who mention my incessant trips, is to say "well, you don't have a uterus sitting on top of YOUR bladder..." I know, I have a weird sense of humor, but that usually shuts them up

Pravda - have you seen a doctor about your PCOS? Did they check for insulin resistance? They tend to go together, and both make it hard to lose weight. There are medications that may help.

Have you read the SugarBuster book? It's a pretty easy read. You can find it at the library. They usually have just about every diet and fitness trend book imaginable there, and it's a lot cheaper! :D Otherwise, you can find it in bookstores, or ebay.com or half.com. I ordered a used one through ebay a couple of months ago.

Well, I better go. It's getting late. Forward ho!

Zanne 01-09-2002 06:57 AM

Morning All!

This is gonna be quick. I'm still half asleep. But my eyes DID pop open :eek: for a couple of secs earlier when I stepped on the scale. Down another pound! :D . So I'm at my lowest since I started this weight loss journey.

I did the cardio for BFL yesterday. It's a great workout and only about 23 minutes. They call it a 20 minute workout but they're not including cooldown. Then I did 100 crunches. Hmmm, surprised my abs don't hurt this morning! I haven't done crunches for years.

I asked DH to take my "before" pics for the BFL challenge. Then I remembered Debelli wanted me to post my other "before" pics (before I started to lose weight). Sorry Deb, I don't have a scanner. If I remember, maybe I'll give them to my brother for him to scan and send to me. I'm afraid the pics would make his scanner blow up:lol:

I am literally falling asleep in the chair here. I'm gonna go back to sleep and then have a few things to do--like buying new weights for today's workout! I don't know if I'll catch up with you all.

I do have to tell this story tho. I called FIL in West Palm Beach to ask him how the weather was (to bug him). He says "cold". I told him I knew cause "all the girls on the board" were saying how cold it was in Florida. I feel that I'm getting to know all of you and that "all the girls on the board" is in the same familiarity as " all the girls at work". I "see" you guys almost every day and think I understand how the WDW gals felt like they weren't really meeting someone for the first time. This isn't coming out very good in print, but I hope I'm conveying what I feel in my heart. YOU'RE ALL A VERY SPECIAL BUNCH OF PEOPLE!!! And I'm really glad we're all here for each other.

I really have to go back to sleep now! Have a great day everyone and I'll check back when I can.

Debelli 01-09-2002 07:09 AM

IT'S WEIGH IN WEDNESDAY!!! If you'd like to put your stats on our JANUARY WEIGH IN BOARD just click on the link below:


Mel 01-09-2002 08:14 AM

YEAH- down another pound from my previous low several weeks ago. And it's held 3 days in a row!
175/140/130. I finally hit the 35 lb. mark, but looking in the mirror, there still seems to be a long way to go. Especially now that I see all those buff bods in the Body for Life Book. Course most of them seem to be 25-30 years old, at least the women. The don't show you the tummy stretch marks on the 47 yr old who had 3 kids! Now I wish I had some pictures of me at my highest weight, but honestly I hid behind cameras for 15 years. The few that are around, I've managed to perch a child or dog in front of me:lol: .

Tree: I don't think oxygen deprivation means they really fit- size 6 is still a major goal!

Zanne: I'm going to try to take my "before" pictures today using the self timer on the camera. Won't even let dh do it. I feel ridiculous enough as it is. Just haven't figured out what to wear. The last time I owned a 2 piece bathing suit was 1980! I may just go with undies and NEVER post them! Just for me.

ZSuzsu- hang in there! Sounds like the last few days were pretty aweful. As I guess you've realized, you never really "win" a screaming match with a 10 year old, cause even if you get your way, you still feel crappy. And it doesn't seem to bother them a bit. I've had plenty of those screaming matches, tho. and with an 11 year old. And a 12 year old. With dd it stopped by 14, so maybe there is light at the end of the tunnel. My ds is 11 and I swear some days we just start screaming out of habit when we look at each other! Go for the orange! may dipped in 73% cocoa choc. melted or ground? Personally, those times are my triscuit and cream cheese crises.

gotta run,

Debelli 01-09-2002 08:41 AM

Good Wednesday Morning Everyone!:wave:

Still a wee bit chilly down here in SoFla-suppose to warm up a tad more than yesterday, and even more tomorrow. I can honestly say, when I was heavy, the a/c couldn't be cranked down enough to keep me cool, now, I'm totally opposite, I can't get warm! AND, a question for are you Northerers, how the heck do you get use to sitting on a cold toilet seat? I yelp every time I sit on the darned thing!:eek: AND, my hands must be cold, when I lift (yes, I have to lift) "the twins" into the holster, I cringe-my hands and my boobs are NOT the same temperature!!!! I give you guys so much credit-can't imagine going out in the snow and cold-you guys rock!!!!

Well, it's WIW and I have to say I couldn't be much happier. I'm not back to my all time low of 118.5, but I'm only 1/2 pound above it at 119!!! :spin: It's 5lbs less than last weeks dismal WIW!! I hope you all did well this week.

Had another good day yesterday with my food intake and journaling, though not so good on the water intake-will do better on that today, I"m hoping. I was pretty much on target with my fats, carbs & protein. For my caloric intake, 38.5 grams of fat were my target, I had 38, for carbs 142.5 target, I had 137.5 and for protein 86.5 grams, I had 91. Also was able to get in 22.5 grams of fiber, a little low, and a bit low on calcium at 690 grams. This is what works for me, keeping track this way, if I didn't do it like this, I surely would have not a clue what I was taking in and probably was one of the reasons I didn't have a loss, but a gain last month, as I didn't journal like I normally do-so for me, this makes a positive difference. My biggest problem, besides water intake, is veggie intake. I just hate cooking veggies! I don't mind eating them if someone else makes them, but when I make something, it tastes blah, no matter how hard I try. Guess with all the cookbooks I have I should try to find something that sounds good and make it. One reason I like the CRUSTLESS QUICHE recipe, it has veggies in it, spinach, mushrooms, onion and broccoli-maybe I should make that for dinner tonight!

Thanks to those of you who joined us in the chat room last night, always a pleasure to "talk" to you real time!!!!

ZSU, it was a pleasure meeting you as well this weekend, I'm already missing everyone and can't wait til we do this again! We all had a great time!! I'm sure we'll have a FL get together before the NC get together in Oct., too long to have time go by with having 4 hours or less apart from everyone. Good luck with your nephew, thank goodness he has you for stability, not to mention love. Keep us informed on how the pregnancy is progressing!!! Oh, don't forget to scan the pic when you get a chance-I know you're busy, no hurry, whenever you can:)

SEF, thanks for the KREWE explanation. Have you ever been on one of the floats? Maybe you and PIANOSTRIPPER can be on one one day:lol: Have a good day at church-10# of potatoes?? Not to mention all the other stuff you have to do today-where do you get the energy???

TREE, why not choc. shavings, if using like 70% cocoa bar? NOT that I'd suggest eating something like that-even though it could be SB LEGAL, it sounds so sinful! I think most people who live in warm climates are always dehydrated-guilty as charged! Never thought aboaut my pb balls being thinned down like that, will have to try that someday!

ZANNE, CONGRATS! Another pound down the drain/toilet! I'm sure someone on the board has a scanner and would be happy to put it on for you:) Always nice to put a name with a face. Try to remember to ask your brother. Your feelings are right on target with the gals and the board-I think most, if not all, feel the same way. It's why when you do get together and meet that you feel like you've known each other for years and have met before. Hoping one day you too will be able to meet up with some of us!!!

MEL, CONGRATS!!! Making milestones, girl! Just 10 more to go, you're almost there!!! Like you, I hid from the cameras and really only have one "fat pic" from when I was my heaviest (the one on the PHOTO BOARD), and I too wished I'd of had a pic of myself when I started SB at 194-but there too, I hid from the camera, plus, I didn't think I'd be as successful as I was at the beginning. Do have a picture that was taken in June, and hoping to get a copy of a pic that was taken at a wedding in April, only about 3 weeks after starting this WOE, but the one in June, my gosh, what a difference I can see!!!

Eli just informed me he was off until a meeting at 5pm-wish he would of told me sooner so I could plan for the kids to be p/u at school so we could spend more time UP IN BROWARD! Anyhow, going to hop in the shower and get ready, will put my walk off til later this afternoon. Hopefully, I'll still be inspired to get out there and go. My mouth is already watering for OLE OLE and CARBOLITE!!!!:s:

Please remember, TOMORROW IS RECIPE DAY so if you have a good SB LEGAL RECIPE you'd like to share with the board, please, try to post it tomorrow. I will finish typing up the directions for the CHEESECAKE RECIPE that I made and get that posted tonight or tomorrow.

Here's the link to the RECIPE BOARD:

Have a great day everyone!

SB since 3/22/00
Reached goal 6/10/01

Rhroo 01-09-2002 09:37 AM

WIW hmmmmmm....!!!! Well I am down enough to make me happy. Considering i had TOM last week i am down 5lbs sounds like alot, but I really was surpised i was that much up to start with---so i am happy. I still have alot more to go...11 lbs to my lowest uggggg I am going to do it! Probably only go down a couple next week if I am super sugar free! Can't hurt to try. Just got done my tape-shorter one my leg is hurting and i don't wanna push it! Tomorrow is suposed to be warm so i will walk-that will be 4 days and i will get Fri in -my thougher tape (the one that hurt me!LOL) Anyway i hope you all are getting results. Yeah for the BFLers!! Deb yeah for you loss too I could never get that low!!! I think people would freak out i say i wanna lose 15 more (from now) and they think i will fly away! I think i have 3 inches on you.

Gotta gooooo hubbys home today-yuck!! caught him peekin on me working out! Now how can that be sexy? MEN!!!!!! have a great day!


201.2/148-yeah! lol/132 my ultimate goal.for a day!

BusDeb 01-09-2002 10:11 AM

Wednesday AM
Good Morning all.:wave:

I posted that I had a 1 pound loss this week on WIW board. I am very excited about this and almost did cartwheels in the bathroom this morning.

Dixie is going to a stable for a while to get some additional training. She is just being a little stupid and I need some help with her. She is still just a sweet big baby but wants her way a lot and I must say lately she has been getting it. But alas I will win!!!

I have a mandatory meeting this afternoon at 1 pm.....it is some big mystery and we are all nervous about what it could be about....will let you know.

Rhoo....if I were you I would have taken advantage of the situation and have given him some GOOD moves to look at ....but then that is just ME!!!! LOL Way to go on your loss ....keep it up ...you can do it.

DEB.....personally I enjoy the cooler weather......I could never stand SOFLA with all those warm muggy days. I guess you decided I got booted out of chat last night. AOL booted and my puter has been having problems so I gave up for the night and did some things around here ...then went to bed.

Tree...thanks for the website to order Agave...I am going to do that today.

Sef....I am with you hon......getting back on track has been much harder than the actual start up was. I am planning on doing things much different next Christmas so I won't be in this boat. Dixie will be fine....she just needs a little kinks worked out is all....thanks for asking.

TV.....good to see you girl....we still need to get together one day for a in person visit. Let me know what you think.

NOmoresugar.....welcome ...we are glad to have you join us.

Well I have to run feed the animals ....cya all soon.

Debbie :)

Nancemeister 01-09-2002 10:27 AM

Hey Girlfreinds!

I'm reporting in because it's part of my therapy if you will to get on track for the New Year. I'm 232 this morning. My sister in No. Calif. emailed me this morning and is ready to be my partner in crime so we can tackle getting 50 lbs off by May. Didn't have a great day staying on plan yesterday, but today is a new day, and I always feel so mauch better when I BEHAVE. I didn't get a chance to catch up on the past days post yet...thought it more theraputic to share where I'm at right now.


viv 01-09-2002 10:41 AM

It's too cold here...
Morning LadiesÖ

Well, I have to admit it, again, I sometimes just canít keep up with all the posts on the thread. I love answering everyone, but I am going to have to accept that fact that I cannot be polite all the time like so many of you! Please forgive me, okay? Problems with being overachiever, etc., lolÖ.

Another too cold day in Connecticut. Was in major depression yesterday about various things, but still managed 1.25 miles on TM. For some reason, am having mid-cycle TOM (BCP is weird sometimes) and MAJOR BLOATING! Visited the loo a lot during the night and feel somewhat better, but still staying away from the scale. I am so mad at myself for having to relose these pounds. I really need to make a better effort during the holidays next year.

TRY THE BBQ SAUCE DEB POSTED ON THE RECIPE SITE! Made it last night on ribs and it was wonderful! I double the recipe and went through a whole bottle of agave, so I need to restock. Yum. More hockey tonite, tomorrow night, Friday,. Sat and Sun, so I better get my menu act together if I want to keep my sanity. LOL, what sanity?

Fillise Ė Hope your pains get better. I went through a week of back pain just now and itís not fun.

MEL Ė size 6 jeans Ė excellent! Have you ever tried Gap Reverse Fit jeans? They are great Ė the only jeans I buy now, except they only come in blue or black so itís kinda boring Ė wish theyíd make a taupe-y color or something. Give them a try, promise youíll like them Ė theyíre cut very flatteringly. My size 8s are a true sign of whether I need to step up the plan Ė and right now theyíre screaming at me! I swear, we need to email each other about the 11 yo DS. I feel just like you Ė sometimes I just need to look at him and want to scream! This kid is great Ė but what is the deal with the goofiness? Heís straight A, plays hockey, has a band (he plays guitar), a million friendsÖ.but he can be so friggin annoying! Thank goodness my 7 yo is still adorable (most of the time). Tell me about your DS!

Sef Ė I caught that down 4 sizes line. How wonderful is that!!! You go girl!

NoMORESugar Ė tell me about this SB support group. I sometimes canít read everything on the thread at once and miss things Ė Iíve given a lot of thought to trying to start one up Ė if you are doing one, please fill me in!

Deb Ė Team Starbucks! Now that is a pro-active company! Thatís what I like! If I didnít hate retail so much Iíd apply for a job at our local Starbucks now! You should be the team captain (by marriage) - that would be so much fun! Iíve beenemailing my friend WDW menus as she is going down there next month, so by next Jan Iíll be so Disney-obsessed Iíll be there to cheer you on!

Nance Ė I know what you mean about feeling better when you are OP. I feel exactly the same. Then why do I sometimes go off? Whatís worse, making the effort to stay OP or feeling lousy when you donít? Sounds like a topic for Oprah!

Tree Ė Iím sorry I missed it Ė what is the agave site for ordering? Is it the frankferd farms? Iím entering an agave panic attack!

Early dismissal today so gotta gear up for an afternoon with the kiddies. Luckily, both have kids coming over, so less work for mom!

Have a great OP day!


Fillise 01-09-2002 11:45 AM

Wednesday Morning
Good morning everyone!

OK it is WIW and I got on the scale. It is sitting at 244--which is 7 lbs up from my low of 237. So this is where we are beginning the year from. I'm doing well as far as my eating so should start to see it head south soon.

My MRI was not too bad yesterday. I'm not claustraphobic, so I didn't have any problem with the closed machine. I was only in for about 15 minutes anyway--I just kept my eyes closed and counted all the things I was grateful for. It was actually quite a nice little meditation. Of course one of the things I am very
grateful for is the support on this board--and my SB sisters!

I go back to the DR tomorrow for results. I'm hoping it is not a herniated disk since all of the treatment options seemed pretty icky. I'm pretty tense right now about getting my campaign contracts signed--so I'm hoping that's what it is. I didn't injure myself, I just woke up last Wed. with a sore neck. Pain starting shooting down my arm over the weekend and than I started getting muscle spasms. Not fun, but not the worst pain I've ever experienced either.

VIV--thanks for the good wishes. I'm going to try the BBQ sauce. It sounds delish. I'm happy not to be living where it is really really cold. I do not like winter so Jan/Feb are months simply to be survived as far as I'm concerned.:p

Nance--yes check in with is and get back on track! WE are here for you!

Bus--congrats on the loss!:D

Rhonda--doesn't it s**k having to relose weight? But we will do it won't we girlfriend?:dizzy:

Deb--looking forward to the cheese cake recipe. You are right have Renee (Frog) being a really neat lady. I enjoyed meeting her last May! I think a Starbucks/SB team would be awesome!

OK--I have to go now.Third potty call in 30minutes--hope this is a good omen!


July 10, 2000

viv 01-09-2002 12:06 PM

Just wanted to say I went to the Frankferd.com site and am amazed at their prices. My favorite snack, carob peanuts, is a fraction of what I pay at my HFC! Wow!:smug:


jmuir9668 01-09-2002 12:22 PM

It's WIW!
Happy to report I'm down 2 pounds! :) I went to our cafeteria today and the grill guy was giving me a hard time because I haven't gotten my usual french fries for the last three days. Then I told him that I had lost two pounds in the last week and he forgave me.

Generally feeling pretty good. I can't believe it is only Wednesday though. I have worked more so far this week week than I have the last 3 weeks combined.

Congrats to all the losers. I'm sorry that I can't respond to y'all (as we say here in Atlanta) individually, but I just keep everyone straight.

Hope everyone has a good day. It's downhill to the weekend from here.


catlover 01-09-2002 12:25 PM

Didnt mean to shake people up yesterday by posting my WIW a day early. I swear I just cant keep up with the days. Anyway I stepped on the scales this morning and still at 180 so no lbs loss. Oh well maybe next week. Ill just have to try harder.

Congrats to all the losers. Its always nice to step on the scales and see a loss.

I need some help. I want to make some Hummus but I cant find Tahini at my local grocery stores and a HFS is just to far away. Is there a substitute?

Will try and check in later.

Sheann 01-09-2002 02:48 PM

Just posted my 1/2 pound loss on the WIW Board. I have only been on the SB way of eating for a few days. It seems like it is really going to be something I can live with. It seems that most recipies could be adapted. I am taking things slow though and will ask questions here first. I don't want to make a BIG MISTAKE and have something I shouldn't. From past experiences, I know that I am kind of like an alcoholic. If I stray once, I just keep right on going and going like the Energizer Bunny.

I do have a question. I am going to make a loaf of bread and it calls for honey (2 tlbs). I do not have the agave nectar. Can I use Splenda?

I have been noticing that if I eat a full meal for dinner, I don't sleep well at night. I don't have heartburn or anything like that, but I feel bloated and unable to breathe. Even if I eat before 6 or 7pm. (Most of my weight is in the abdomen, with all that fat in there all my vital organs are probably screaming at me to wake up and get a clue). I am thinking about having only a light snack at night and then have a bigger breakfast in the morning.

Thanks again everyone,


music teach 01-09-2002 03:19 PM

Hi everybody. I've been trying to catch up on the posts for this week. Monday was my first day back at school. The kids started Friday, but I had a workshop to go to.:D I'm trying to get back in the swing of things and I'm really dragging. Anyway, I've stayed OP...well, pretty much.:s: Still up a couple of pounds from my low of 150.

Congrats to Frog!:D Way to go!

Welcome newbies and welcome back Quilter.;)

Sorry I can't get to everyone. I'm too far behind!:dizzy:


Mel 01-09-2002 04:08 PM

Splenda and then some
Sheann: Yes, you can bake with splenda. 99% of people think it takes great. I'm one of the 1% that can taste a really foul after-taste, so if you've never used it, try it in a cup of tea or something before you go to all that trouble to bake bread and then don't like it. I vaguely remember a discussion on the honey issue. I THINK the conclusion was that 2 tablespoons divided by however many servings you actually get out of the loaf would still be legal, but before anybody screams at me, I only sort of remember this! Deb?

MusicTeach- Welcome back! Hard to get back to the routines, isn't it?

Catlover- I really don't think there is a substitute for tahini unless you want to make your own with a mortar and pestle! That would give you a great arms workout....Can you order it and have it delivered? Strange, every grocery store here sells it.

Zanne-Did my first LBWO this morning, don't think I hit 10's on anything. I may have to join a gym, cause to get to peak with free weights and no spotter, I may get killed. Like squats. With hubby spotting, I can squat 85 pounds, 12 reps (probably sounds wimpy to the quad squad, but took me FOREVER to get there). But alone, I can't get more than 50 lbs into position. The nearest gym sounds expensive, but cheaper than buying my own smith machine! And dumbbells heavy enough to do my legs any good hurt my shoulder joints! Very frustrating. I'm going down to talk to the head weight trainer at the gym tomorrow to see if I want to join. He managed to tell me 3 times in a 5 minute conversation that he's a 3 time grand masters champ. OK, I'm impressed. (yes, I really am, but EGO? Are his biceps as big?)

I took my pics this morning. What a hoot! Luckily I have a really cool new digital camera that has a lense that swivels 360 degrees so I can take my own picture with the self timer and see it in the LCD screen. I haven't owned a 2 piece bathing suit since forever so I used my red Victoria Secret Undies. I can definitively say those pictures are NEVER going anywhere! YUCK! I didn't expect to look like the 20 year old babes in the catalogue,
but I'm pretty sure if VS saw me, they'd confiscate the underwear and ban me from the store! And that's after having already lost 35 pounds of FAT FAT FAT! So those pics are just for me, and hopefully the 12 week ones will be better! And I won't wear underwear:lol: I was all set up in the bathroom with a sheet draped behind me and the camera on a tripod, feeling like an absolute fool. My biggest fear was that a burglar would break in at that moment, see me, and have a heart attack in my bathroom! Or worse, my hubby would come home unexpectedly. I'd never live it down!

and with that image seared into your brains, gotta go!


TVthatsME 01-09-2002 05:52 PM

Hello all!

Bad day here Ė didnít weigh this morning because TOM hit me hard last night and I know Iím up, so didnít even get on. Iím depressed enough without looking!! I donít guess depressed is the right word, just ďhormonalĒ I guess. This TOM thing just gets worse every month. I havenít always had these problems, or at least not as bad! Iíve been craving chocolate sooooo baaad this afternoon Ė and yes, I did it. I know I goofed up, but I really felt better afterwards Ė maybe my bsl was low??? I need to go to the HFS and get some legal chocolate to get me by during times like these!

Mel Ė did someone say something about goofy kids?? My 9 Ĺ year old son drives me up the wall sometimes. Goofy is his middle name!! He watches a cartoon named ďEd, Edd and EddieĒ and it is the stupidest thing Iíve ever seen. He loves to mimick them constantly. For example, we can be driving down the road and he will say ďif only we had a sack of potatoesĒ (he says it in his goofy voice too)!! I just want to choke him!!! From seeing my niece and nephew, I know that they grow out of it, but until they do you just have to grin and bear it I guess!!

BusDeb Ė Hope the meeting wasnít bad! Iím game to get together whenever!

No time for more right now Ė fixin to down more Midol, fill up the waterbottle and head out.


The Quilter 01-09-2002 07:06 PM

MEL---Oh my gosh, you are my inspiration. Actually, getting size SIX pants on and up is FANTASTIC!!! YOU MUST BE SO PROUD OF YOURSELF. Thatís awesome. Thanks for adding that you were unbuttoning your size 16ís. Speaking as one whoís 16ís are WAY too tight . . . you give me a gigantic boost and kick in the seat to get my butt and attitude and eating plan in gear. Keep up the good work! Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful.

NOMORE---You got on the scale on ďthe morning afterĒ going out to eat and you had lost????? AWESOME! You are wise to stick with the fish. Always a good choice? Whatís your favorite. I know, I agree with DEB and always get the salmon at the Outback. Itís always yummy.

JRED---Thanks for sharing your good idea about the Palm Pilot. Can you believe that Iíve had a Palm for 3 years and have NEVER thought about putting my food journal in there. Duh!!! Have fun with yours. I did put a lot of recipes in mine so that when Iím at the grocery and canít remember whatís in something , I can just look it up.

ROSALIE---Thanks forthe welcome back. Iím happy to see that you are still on track and enjoying your badminton. You probably have a wicked serve, right??? Think of all that wonderful upper arm workout you are getting. Letís hear it for the overhead slam!!!

ZANNE---Thanks for the welcome. How sweet you are! Yes, itís good to be reminded that this is a loving group who will gladly support those who are struggling. Iím so grateful for your warmth. Thatís great!!! I hope you are finding great successes with this WOE.

RHROO---Sounds like your life is as crazy and action-packed as itís always been. Hang in there! You crack me up!

SOL---So happy and relieved to hear that BOB is driving that wagon and that she still knows the way to my house. Thanks, hon, for saving me a seat. (It needs to be a bigger seat!) Iím so glad to hear you are training for a half-marathon! Wow!!! What a SUPER idea. I like your idea of alternating weight training and walking. I read this great book called Strong Women Stay Slim. The author talks about how building our muscles is so important. Unfortunately, Iíve loaned out the book and canít seem to get it back. But I did photocopy the weight exercises and stretches. So Iím trying to get those in 3 days a week. I asked for dumbbells in various weights for Christmas and got them. (That was one HEAVY present!) Good luck to you, friend. I canít wait to hear all about your progress. When are you doing the 3.5? Morning, evening? Arenít you afraidi to walk in the dark? Iím sticking to my TM while the daylight hours are so short.

FILL---A herneated disk???? Girl, what are you doing down there? My good thoughts are coming your way and I really hope you are feeling better soon. Better to let the experts take care of it than try to dr. it on your own and prolong the pain. Hang in there , sweetie!

DEB---Do you think you will be on the news sometime soon as you are SPEEDING all around the neighborhood. I am getting a mental picture of one of those news helicopters following you around and tracking your progress and not knowing exactly whatís going on. At that time, you have to be officially running for most of it. Want to hear my prediction??? Next January DEB at the WDW marathon but NOT on the sidelines. I can picture it! How about you?

JMUIR---I like your idea of sloppy joes on triscuits. That sounds yummy. Kind of like party food. Did you feel like you were at a party. Do you love that green tea. I have this brand called Yogi and itís green tea with triple echinacea which helps during this colds and flu season.

SEF---Thanks for the declaration that I am not ranked with the old and mold. You are so great! Write when you can, girlfriend. Itís NOT about guilt, itís about good friends sharing with each other when time and energy permits. Not much going on here after the holiday hoopla, so thatís why I havenít written anything.

NANCE---Hello, out there!!! Is life in the western world good? I like your idea of having a partner. I was just thinking how great it would be to have a ďsponsorĒ or a ďcoachĒ to call when I was really falling prey to temptations of the wrong kind. Hope you and she can find some fantastic successes. Just keep focused on how great you will feel in May when you reach your goal. I need to set a goal myself. I had set one way back when, but thatís impossible to reach now. So I think itís time to tackle a new plan. Thanks for the inspiration. Our six year wedding anniversary is April 13 and I really wanted to be thinner by then. At one time, I could have seen me reaching goal by then, but not now (after my monstrous gain for the past few months!). But hopefully, Iíll be less by then. Good luck, hon!

Okay, girls, CONGRATS to all you who had big losses this morning. Heck, congrats to all you who were brave enough to get onto the scales. I know I need to do that, and I just canít bring myself to make that tiny little step. Yes, Iím in denial. Not denying that I have gained. My closet is screaming at me to WAKE UP and I canít ignore that. Just in denial about needing to know the exact poundage that has occurred. Did I tell you all that during my last trip to the dr in November, I closed my eyes when I weighed. I specifically told the person to NOT say the number out loud. Then the dr. came in the room and the first thing she said was, ďYouíve gained 18 pounds!Ē Talk about a humbling experience. She was nice enough to add the disclaimer about it being caused by my missing thyroid, but it was still a shock!

Whereís BOB???? Anybody seen BOB??? Anybody heard from BOB???? Just wondering where you are, BOB!!!! Hope all is well with you and Skeeter. Maddie sends her best sniffs to Cousin Skeeter!

Well, thatís it for me! Iíve joined a new book club and this monthís read is To Kill a Mockingbird. Great book! Iíd better be off to see what Scout and Jem are up to.


Debelli 01-09-2002 07:18 PM

Hey All:wave:

Just got in from my walk. I was about a 1/2 mile from home when my right calve muscle started to tighten up on me, almost like a charlie horse:eek: Didn't feel good, that I can tell you. Took me some time to get it to ease up, and I tried to walk it off, which seemed to take forever, but I ventured on and finally it seemed to just about go away, but I ended up walking the rest of the way home-boy, was I slow!!

Eli and I did indeed hit Ole Ole, and then over to D'Lites for Carbolite-I was in heaven, they had one of my favorites, mint!!! I'm guilty for being a pig and getting a large-I loved it!:love: Also hit WHOLE FOODS and picked up 5 CRANBERRY SCONES, which I made a solemn vow to not eat all in one day. So far, just had one:^: I tried calling their bakehouse, but they won't part with the recipe:( but I do have a list of the ingredients and with using another scone recipe, I'm going to try to duplicate it somehow. They did say I could order the dough frozen and bake them myself, may look into that so I could be sure they are freshly baked.

I also went to the other HFS and got my neighbor some more agave syrup. The guy questioned me why I was buying so much, told him it was a wonderful product;) I have 2 more cases on order for next week, then I think I will be set for a while????

There's another site that has agave listed that's even cheaper than FRANKFERD FARMS, it's called NORTHFARM in Madison, WI. Here's a link to their site:


They may have a minimum order, but there's lots of great stuff on their site to make a minimum I'm sure, so check it out.

ZANNE & SUGAR, guess what! When I went to NutritionS'mart today, I asked the guy if they would ship, etc. etc., anyhow, he informed me that they have a brand new store in W. PALM BEACH!!!! He gave me their card and told me he's not sure if they have the agave in stock, but that they could get it for you, and by the case, you get an extra 10% off, sign up for one of their cards (it's free) and you earn an 3extra 3% (not much, but it's something). When you first sign up for the card, that day, they should just give you the 3% off, or until your card comes in the mail, then when you get it, you get to use your credit off your next or future purchase. So ZANNE, you can tell your In-Laws they don't have to travel far, but to make sure to call ahead and order a case if you want it. The store near me puts in their orders on Wednesday and it comes in on Friday-when they call, if they have any questions at the store, like not being familiar with the product name, tell them it's SWEET CACTUS FARMS and if they need to, to call JOHNNY at the store in Pembroke Pines, in Broward. The address for the store in WPB is: 4155 B. Northlake Blvd. (wonder if that B should be something else?), Palm Beach Gardens, FL (561) 694-0644.

For anyone in the Tampa area, they have a store there as well, on 14847 N. Dale Mabry Hwy.

RHROO, you and I are both down 5lbs from last WIW, you for TOM, me mid-cycle. My family already thinks I look too skinny, but I know I'm not-you can even ask the gals from the weekend, I'm sure they'd be honest that I am far from being "skinny". Honestly, I never thought I could get down this low, I figured the one time in my life that I hit 129 would be the lowest I could ever attain again-I'm happy I was wrong!!!

BUSDEB, CONGRATS on the 1lb loss! That's great news! How many pounds does this make now? Oye, what happened at the mandatory meeting?????????? The weather in the summer is awful here, I do agree. My Grandparents, and now my Parents, have the right idea, they hightail it up North in the summer time, well my GP have for so many years and now my parents are going to start since they purchased a place in the NC mountains. When you walk out your door in the summer, it's like walking into an invisible wall of fire. I guess I shouldn't complain about these cold days we have, they are far and fw between!

NANCE, that's great your sister is going to join you in doing SB!! What's going on in May for the 50lb goal? Okay, as part of your therapy, you should tell what you ate that was off plan and why-and how you felt after you ate it-it may help curb that feeling to eat off plan again-at least thinking about posting it on the board may deter you;) How are the kids? Dan? Floyd and Trixie? The cats ever come home??? And, HOW'S THE PARK?????????????

VIV, glad you liked the BBQ SAUCE, I too think it's awesome-sometimes, I do surprise myself!

FILLISE, 7lbs is not so bad, could be worse and at least you are stopping there and focusing on losing those pounds before you go up more and have more to re-lose. Gosh, that was so sweet of you to think of us like that during your MRI:D I too am VERY GRATEFUL for each and every one on this board! Please, let us know what the Dr. says after your visit tomorrow.

JMUIR, CONGRATS, 2lbs this week, WTG!!!

CAT, holding you own is still okay, a loss will be forthcoming, just keep on keeping OP. Hmmm, you don't have any Middle Eastern or Greek grocers around you-both would probably carry these items. Or a Halal place (Moslem grocer). Can't tell you anything that you could substitute for tahini, sorry.

SHEANN, CONGRATS on your 1/2lb loss! Every loss, no matter how big/small is a big deal on this board! You are very much like me when it comes to going off plan. I know how I am and if I cheated I would continue running in the wrong direction. Many people can cheat and get right back on the wagon, but not me, I cheat, the wagon would drag me to the next state and then back-up over me. It's good to realize this about yourself, and as long as you know this about yourself, it will hopefully help keep you staying OP. You could use the honey in the bread, to help the yeast rise-though 2 tbl sounds like a lot. I think you could use less. If you can figure out the sugar grams per serving and only eat a serving that would be 3 grams of sugars or less, you'll be fine. This info is on the FOOD INFORMATION BOARD:

12-31-2000 04:18 AM profile | | pm | homepage | find | buddy edit | quote

I had been looking for this info for a while - it was in one of my books, (Get The Sugar Out), not on the web!

FYI - when substituting HONEY in a recipe when you don't have AGAVE NECTAR around, please keep the following in mind....

Honey has 16-18 grams of sugar (17 average) in 1 Tablespoon.

Break that down into teaspoons and you have approx. 4 grams of sugar in 1 tsp of honey - still above the 3 grams or less recommended under SB guidelines.

So, with that info, if you are using 2tbl, that would be 34 grams of sugar in the loaf. If you can get 12 slices out of that loaf, you would have it fall under the 3gram rule. But again, I think 2tbl sounds like a lot of honey, unless it's for something other than proofing the yeast. Hope this helps! What are you eating for dinner, maybe it's the food you are eating-added fiber maybe??

MUSIC, the kids aren't back to school yet?? When did they get out? Sounds like you all have a long vacation up there. Glad to see your post!

MEL, I sure would love to see those before pics!! LOL!!!

TV, when you get a choc. craving, would a cup of hot cocoa do you good? Sounds like a good solution to me. I don't know if I was having a chocolate craving if I'd trust myself to having chocolate around me at that time-luckily, I haven't had one of those cravings, just indulge in a piece once in a while when I think about it.

QUILTER, does this mean you are back with us and back on track???? Please say YES! How's Paul??? Oh yes, I can say I have good intentions of jogging next to FROG and SOL next year at WDW, and I hope others will join us, whether it be jogging or walking-something to strive for for the future!!! Trust me, I don't go that fast, but I'm jogging most of my distance on most days, which is a lot more than I was doing 6 months ago!!!! Ummm, you could call me at any time, you know. I can be your LD partner and coach!!! [{{HUGS}}} I too wonder where Skeeter's Mom is-hopefully, she'll get her arse on the board soon!!!!

Gotta run, Michael needs the computer!


SB since 3/22/00
Reached goal 6/10/01

tree 01-09-2002 08:02 PM


Did you know that it's Beautiful Women Month?

Well, it is and that means you and me. I'm supposed to send this to FIVE BEAUTIFUL WOMEN, but I know more than five! So here goes...

Facts on Figures:
There are 3 billion women who don't look like supermodels and only eight who do.

Marilyn Monroe wore a size 14.

If Barbie was a real woman, she'd have to walk on all fours due
to her proportions.

The average woman weighs 144 lb. and wears between a 12-14.

One out of every four college aged women has an eating! disorder.

The models in the magazines are airbrushed -- not perfect!

A psychological study in 1995 found that three minutes spent
looking at a fashion magazine caused 70% of women to feel depressed, guilty, and shameful.

Models twenty years ago weighed 8% less than the average woman. Today they weigh 23% less.

THE BIG ORANGE BABE 01-09-2002 08:36 PM


Skeeter's mommy's arse is right here :) Her arse is
dragging...started back to the gym tonight and have pulled everything possible....:( I probably will not be able to move tomorrow...

A BIG HEARTY HELLO TO ALL THE NEW PEOPLE THAT HAVE JOINED US... Hang around for a while...it gets PRETTY INTERESTING in here :dizzy:

I'm putting my dragging arse to bed...talk to all of you soon.


tree 01-09-2002 08:57 PM

Meliris - Thank you. I am also one of the 1% who has a problem with Splenda aftertaste! It sort of coats your mouth too. :p LOL about your pics and burglars on the run! Boy will those be great to look at when several pounds later you can say "Did I lose all that?".

Sheann - I know that people with acid reflux, tend to have problems at night. One of the remedies is to tilt the top part of your bed (where your head is). I assume that means either sleeping with a lot of pillows, or putting a wedge under your mattress. The light dinner, and bigger b'fast might do the trick though. Ever hear of mini-meals, and maxi-snacks? You eat 5-6 meals a day instead of 3. It's supposed to be a better way of eating. I find it too difficult to do, but its a neat concept.

Viv - here'sthe Agave Nectar info - I ordered mine in a 6lb pail from St. Pats of Texas, <www.stpats.com>, they are a reputable brewers supplier for wine/beer/mead. I ordered the Tequiza Agave Nectar (it's the light, they also have amber/dark) for $16 + 7.60 w/ shipping. No handling charges. You can order a min of 1lb to max of 13lb/pail, you pay $2.50/lb + $1 for pail. Texans pay sales tax.

So, I tried this Beginner Ballet Shape Up video. I got as far as the warmup, (creak, snap, pop), then the dog got in my face. I put him out, came back, and just did not want to finish it. I'll eventually get to do the rest of it, I just need to ease into it. That night, I had the WORST muscle spasm in my neck. It continued all night, and into the next day. UGH! Granted, I'm stressed about the job changes and I've noticed that I've been tensing up. I don't think the warmup was the problem. It's just I'm totally out of shape. Ha, ha!:lol: I'll try it again, as soon as my neck relaxes.

Congrats to all the losses out there! Congrats to all those jumping back on the wagon! Yay, I'm down 1lb!

Nancemeister 01-09-2002 09:35 PM

Good Evening!!!

Getting ready to eat dinner here in a few, but needed to say Hi to everyone! Had a great day a work....what a differenace that place makes!

Glad to see some of the oldies posting again! Hope to get to know some of the newbies as well.

Debs Yes!!!! I must post the delicious chicken recipe for all of us....I haven't even made it but I'm telling you it's a winner!
Nadia said to say "HI"...Faris is doing fine, driving me nuts playing his new guitar ALL THE TIME....oh well, better than beraking bones at the skate park! No, Dan has not been making me the gourmet coffee drinks.....I am the Queen of the Java, and froth to perfection! Dan the Man just made some business cards and flyers up for extra $ for computer repairs, etc.....so I'll tell him to put all the $$ into the Florida fund!

Gotta eat dinner......check in LATER!!!!!


Nanc-a-rama :)

BigKnightsMomma 01-09-2002 11:38 PM

this is going to be quick as it is getting late. have had many long busy days in the recovery room this past week so i am thinking way ahead to the next sugarbuster reunion! it has been very chilly here in central florida currently 42 degrees, this morning it was 27DEGREES and i had to get a kitchen spatula to scrape my windshield before i could drive to work! i have not had to do that since we left cincinnati 20 years ago! where is that nice balmy weather that i enjoy so much? looking forward to a trip to the beach in north carolina!

THANK YOU DEBBIE for the cheesecake recipe! i have promised to take one to work for all to try. i surely enjoyed it when we were in orlando. it is my turn to have BUNKO this month so i will be going through my file of legal sb recipes to try on my friends. we are a group of 12 women who have been getting together once a month for 11 years to play bunko, eat and gab. we have a lot of fun and your cheesecake, quiche and zucchini loaf will certainly be hits! i am the only sugarbuster so far but most are watching their girlish figures so i will put on a legal assortment of goodies. the strawberries here in central florida have been wonderful this winter, i have a lot of ideas for the menu!

it is exciting to see all the folks on the board, i am trying hard to keep everyone straight, it is fun putting faces with names. love the tuesday chats too, nice to meet you sef, busdeb and liz.

well better close, need to get some sleep. have to drive up to daytona for my uncle's funeral in the morning. my 9 year old has been to 6 funerals in the past 5 years. finally will get to take her to her first wedding in cincinnati this summer. i come from a fairly large family that is spread around the country and lately the reunions have involved these sad events.

take care and have a good weekend everybody.


Zanne 01-11-2002 10:39 AM

Just checkin'
Just checking to see if this post will work. Don't have time now, but will try to get back later.

Debelli 01-11-2002 10:43 AM

Good Friday Morning All:wave:

Seems we're up and running again, thank goodness!, though it seems we've lost some of our posts that were done yesterday, they seemed to just up and disappeared!:( I was having withdrawls!

This has to be short, Mom is on her way over and I need to get ready to go run around with her, actually, her with me.

I e-mailed those of you on my mailing list about the latest news on the agave, for those newbies I don't have on my list yet, and our devoted lurkers, here's some new


I just wanted to share an e-mail that I got from the gal who use to work for the importer of agave and who was the one who told me what was happening initially with the agave syrup and it's production demise.

As I have said in the past, I found her information to be credible and accurate. As I'm probably more happy than anyone else on this latest information, I can't but help to wonder what kind of games this company is playing. I have 7-8 cases of agave syrup in my home, definitely an over buy on my part, but considering the information that was given not only to us, but to many large companies, I think I didn't over react, I use this stuff like crazy, I'll probably be happy that I have at least a year or so supply at the lower price. BUT, even if the price increases, I can say once my supply is gone, I'll be buying it! BUT, sure hoping by that time, whatever the cost is, it will come down in price-I'm good to go for at least a year or more!

Anyhow, take this information as you see fit, as I always say. This is her e-mail in it's entirety:

Subj: Agave Again!
Date: 1/11/02 12:51:00 AM Eastern Standard Time


Mexico plant is now back producing agave syrup again!

It appears the new syrup is from some different types of wild agaves, I have heard, and not at the expected costs of 3 to 4 times the old agave syrup, but only at twice the costs--whoopee! Supposedly, these plants are less expensive, but of higher quality--go figure.

Just think, it only took 2 and a half weeks to redo the whole company, and product line! What a great place the world is!

Obviously, you can tell I am really overjoyed that they are up and running again, with less overhead now...given I and my customer service manager are gone. Oh well. They finally took down their Mexican website this week--under construction I guess to unveil the new and improved agaves!

Of course, my suppliers for the retail products are not so happy as I am---probably because they are owed some $200,000 for packaging. But silly me, Naturel, LLC doesn't exist anymore, so why pay anyone?

I can only say it sure was a wild ride!

Just thought you might want to know the news...whether anyone will ever buy this new and improved agave syrup, I guess time will tell. I think the price will scare them off--$2.00 per lb. for the industrial customers is probably a killer for the ingredient Business but who knows? Stranger things have been known to happen...just look at the "syrup shutdown worldwide" in December 2001! No more agave syrup for years--at least 4 years I was told, and then maybe not ever if the MX government couldn't help them with subsidies to grow their own wild agaves. Marvelous recovery time, a miracle, you think?!

Gee, too bad the sales personnel in the Italy office are out of jobs too. And all the customers in the USA and Canada have been scrambling to reformulate all their nutritional bars, juices, soy milk drinks, teas, yogurts, etc....etc...

What's that strange smell, Debbie? Are we the only ones who smell something odd around here?!

I asked her WHEN the "new" agave would be available to us, the consumers (hopefully, the old supply out there will last until the new supply arrives to store shelves). Also, I asked her if it was going to be as sweet as the old one (the new one they were bottling was not as sweet, thus having to use more-I like the old much better). I will keep you all updated to what I find out.

I did start a post yesterday, before the board went down, so here's some of what I was able to post:

Good Thursday Morning Everyone:wave:

Can't believe it's already 11:30am as I start this post! Time is flying by me today. Once again I waited til it warmed up a tad outside and then by the time I went it was really warm. I did the 4.5 miles in 46:50. Not a bad time, but it could of been better. I felt my leg muscle so fatigued, which must of been due to just walking 4.5 miles about 12 hours ago. I think tomorrow, I'll just walk, and Saturday will be my usual day off.

Okay, I posted the recipe for the CHEESECAKE on the board. Please let me know if anyone makes it and what you think about it-I'm sure you'll love it!!!! I'll try to post another recipe or two if time permits.

I take it many of us will be glued to the boob-tube tonight for the finale of Survivor. Seems the favorite is a nice Jewish boy!!! Should be interesting!!!

TREE, I've seen that BEAUTIFUL WOMAN before. It's amazing when you think about it and how normal most of us really are-just think of all those supermodels, they are the abnormal looking waifs!

BOB, okay so what's the latest with you-better fess on up, pull that wagon out of the barn, hitch it up pick up whoever and drive it down here to the DETOX DUNGEON before the month is over!!!! Look at all who's back with us! NANCE, QUILTER, CAT, TREE-isn't that great!!!!

NANCE, give the kids a hug and kiss for me, oh, and Dan too, and Floyd the Farting Dog! Glad to hear you're doing good at your job. Have you heard from LDBLOND?? She hasn't been on in a while and I can't remember when she said she was going to have this latest surgery-please let me know if you hear of/from her!!! Definitely have a FLORIDA FUND going!!!!

BIGK, 27 degrees, you can have it-and I thought it was cold when we were up there-thank goodness it wasn't that cold you'd of definitely heard me *****in! Let me know how your cheesecake comes out when you make it. I made a little change to reflect a note on the recipe, so you may want to check it out again. Sorry to hear about your Uncles passing.

ZANNE, when you call the place with the pail of agave, ask them the production date. If it's really old, it may have lost some flavor. Avis had sent me a gallon of an old batch of agave and it tasted weird, not as sweet and a little off. Also, make sure the shipping won't kill you!

And now I'm back on today, FRIDAY!

Real quick,
I see 118 on that lovely scale of mine! I know I won't stay there and really, that's just fine with me, but sure is nice to see that kind of a number!!

Gotta run, will be back on sometime later!!

Have a wonderful weekend!

SB since 3/22/00
Reached goal 6/10/01

Fillise 01-11-2002 12:44 PM

Friday Morning
Helloe Everyone!

The news from the Dr. was not good yesterday. It is indeed a herniated disk and I'm banned from the gym for the duration. We have no idea what caused it, but the MRI showed some degeneration and arthiritis is my neck. Ick. I go to my orthopedic Dr. on Monday to discuss treatment options. More ick.

I missed the board being down--I didn't get to post yesterday. Porbably a good thing as I was not a happy camper!

I'm going to try to have a quiet weekend--just me and the pain medication. Will go shopping this afternoon to stock the house with easy to prepare SB foods so I won't have to cook much.

I'm going to check out that cheese cake recipe--sounds yummy! I'll talk some more later, it is kind of hard to sit at the computer and type right now.


sef 01-11-2002 01:28 PM

HiedieHo All!

Thought I would post and then go back to bed! Wednesday was really busy. I know for sure I could not hold a job. I was at church for 6 hours. I completed all the copying but would not have if the xecretary hadn't taken pity on me and helped me with the last collating and stapling. I knew I was getting tired but hated to leave a job in the middle, so kept plugging along! Oh well, it's done anyway.

I did make about 12# of mashed potatoes for the wake and delivered by 9:30a.

Supper was easy just needed to be thawed. I don't know what we ever did without freezers and microwaves! Then went to choir practice.

Yesterday wasn't too bad. I went to NH, drugstore and home. Made a real supper. Then Habitat meeting. I was elected to the board and will serve on Newsletter/PR committee.

I don't know if weather is going to change (fell asleep during news) but today is not one of my better days. It's okay, I've learned to do what I can and go with the flow. Not sick just need a lie down.

TREE - Before SB breakfast was literately a full pot of coffee in the two hours between getting up and going to work. If the pot wasn't gone by then I had the last cup in my insulated mug and it went with me to work! Now I am a good girl
:angel: and eat breakfast. There is a decided change in how I feel. I liked your Beautiful Women.

ZANNE - I thought you stated your feelings very well. Will finish later

Take care. sef

jmuir9668 01-11-2002 02:12 PM

It's FRIDAY!!!
It's finally here, the end of the week. Hope everyone had a good one and has a great weekend.

I did okay at lunch today. We went for Mexican. I was very good and didn't have any of those addictive chips that they put on you table. I did have the fajitas on flour tortillas but I used the loaded baked potato approach. I had the carbs, but I also had a ridiculous amount of protein, what with the steak and the guacamole and all. So hopefully, it won't be too bad.

Have any of you heard of or read the book Low-Carb meal in minutes? I saw it online at amazon and was wondering if anyone here had fixed any of the recipes. Generally, it sounded pretty good. I thought I would try and find it a my local bookstore and see if i like anything that is in it. I'll let you know what I find out.

Well, that's about it for me today. hope everyone has fun this weekend.

See ya on the board.


Sheann 01-11-2002 04:26 PM

So far so good. I'm doing pretty well on the program during the day but am getting the munchies at night. I haven't gone off the program though. Last night I had a couple (3) of triscuits with a SMALL slice of cheese (very thin) on each.

I made the ww bread yesterday and used honey but didn't use the 2 tlbs it called for. I only used one. It turned out very well and I sliced it very thin. Now I'm thinking about trying to make the ww tortillas or the pitas. Next time I make the bread, I am going to try the Splenda. Just to see if it turns out ok. Maybe I'll cut the recipie in half and just make a couple of rolls instead of a whole loaf of bread.

Debbie, Congratulations on your all time low of 118. I hope everyone has a great weekend. You are all an inspiration. And thanks for all of the great recipies I read and printed off on the Recipie Board.



Rosalie 01-11-2002 05:17 PM

Hi everyone

I typed this post yesterday and when I went to post it the site was down. Darn. Here it is anyhow with a couple of small changes. Will try to get back and respond to other posts later. Just got in from work and have to think about getting dinner ready.

Just a quickie, as usual. Been very busy these last few days. Worked the last three days, and played badminton every evening. I'm off to-day but have lots to do. Just finished the laundry and cleaning the house now have to do a bit of shopping and I am going out with some friends this evening to a concert and to dinner at my favorite Indian restaurant.

Sol - I am still unable to get below 195 - this morning it was 195 1/2 - so you don't have much to catch up with. My goal for January is just to get below 195 - and stay there. I'm trying hard to stay op and cutting down on the starchy carbs and concentrating on having most of my carbs in the morning at breakfast. This worked for me in the past so hope I can get some good results soon.

Kim - I wish I was as good as you think I am with my badminton serve - I'm hopeless but I am working on it.

Fillise - Sorry to hear about the herniated disc. I wish you luck with your doctors visit on Monday.

Deb - Thanks for your offer about the Agave. I think I will check out one of the online suppliers and see how much it would cost to send it up here. The price here from the HFS was $5.19 for the light and $4.89 for the dark but they are out of stock at the moment and I don't know if they will be getting any more. Thanks for the new info about the agave. Hope I can find some before the price goes up. If the price doubles I certainly won't be buying it any more. Too bad as I have just gotten used to using a little in my coffee. I just don't like any of the other sweeteners.



Rhroo 01-11-2002 06:15 PM

Hey! Its Friday. Boy talk about withdrawal when this site is down! LOL Hope everyone fared well! I did o.k, but could have done better. Today was a fairly decent day not sugar free but kind of on track (how motavting am I?) Card day per usual on Fri. Sis in laws bday too. No cake for me but that ice cream looked yummy! Anyway tomorrows a new day. I did get my hour of excersise in! thats five times for me this week! Tomorrow i won't get to it my son has a basketball game---and rain! Excuses I know. My leg is feeling better now my lower back hurts! I think i am falling apart!

Just wanted to say HI and have a great week end! I will let you know how i fare at the baby shower on Sun!


sef 01-11-2002 06:48 PM

HiedieHo All!!

I'm baaaaaack! Took a nap and am taking things easy. Simple supper in oven, plain chicken breasts with lemon and teriyaki.

DEB - Loved the cartoon, I think that's what my poor scale does! I don't think you should move north! Where I come from 27' is just brisk, not cold! Aren't you pumping blood to your tether end? Cold toilet seat is to wake you up! Cold hands mean a warm heart. You definitely have a problem!! I am not glued to TV for Suviver! All this week are finals in figure skating. We have our men's team. I only caught the end of last night's competition.

MEL - I think all of us BBW are camera shy! I never willingly pose! That's probably why I look like someone trying to avoid the most wanted list! I love your humorous description of taking pics! You're braver than I! Me? Any teachers out there?

RHROO - Those 11# will go! You have the power!

BUS - Cartwheels are good exercise!!!! I'm still not at my best yet with this woe, but am doing better. Hope your meeting was not too traumatic!!

NANCE - I agree. When we "behave" I feel better, but I've always been recalcitrant and do things the hard way.

VIV - Don't be mad at yourself! That can lead to other problems. We are always harder on ourselves than others. We should support ourselves the way we do others! Think what you would tell them and apply it to yourself.

FILLISE - Am praying for an simple solution to your neck problem. Glad MRI wasn't traumatic for you.

JMUIR - 2# down. WTG! CAT - Time passing quickly for you now is just a sample of things to come. When you get old and decrepit like me thime goes even faster and you go slower!!!

SHEANN - I have found that 6 small meals are better. When I was in hospital, the nutritionist said one of the things good about SB is that it encourages snacks, that people do better in weight loss with smaller frequent meals. Also said that I should not be upset because I lose than stop, lose again and stop again. She felt this is better for you as it's the body's way of adjusting and weight is more apt to stay off. Don't know if she was talking through her hat but I liked what I heard!

MUSIC - Answering posts is fun but not the main objective. I feel it's important that we post period. It gives us a little accountability. I feel better when I put something in writing, it gives whatever is bothering me in perspective.

TV - Hope you feel better, TOM can be a pain in the royal butt! All this talk of pesty kids. I can tell you it will pass, you just have to hang on and keep a sense of humor. Remember when our Mom's would tell us they hoped we had kids just like ourselves? Do we think we were angelic children? I don't thiiiiiiiiiiiink so!!

QUILTER - Yes we need goals, just don't set them so high that we are intimidated. It scares me to say I need to lose 100# or even 60. I try to concentrate on smaller cargo weight!! Aim for 5 or 10.

MOMMA - Nice meeting you too. As I told Deb, 27' is just brisk weather.

Take care all. sef

Sheann 01-11-2002 07:03 PM

Just thought I'd jump on for a few minutes and read the new posts.

Sef: Thanks for the information that the nurse gave you. It sounds right to eat 6 smaller meals throughout the day. You would never have time to be hungry or feel deprived. I'm going to give it a try. Oh, and it's good to know that someone else will be glued to the TV watching figure skating. I watch just about everything that is on. I do have my favorite skaters though too.

I have checked out the fitday.com site that someone mentioned. I have been keeping my food journaled there for the past 3 days. It does help to see what you are putting into your body and how it adds up really quickly.

Have a great weekend.


The Quilter 01-11-2002 07:26 PM

Friday Afternoon
Holy Cow . . . literally!!! I went to the dr this morning to get some blood drawn (for further thyroid checking) and I actually LOOKED at the scale when I weighed in. I said to the nurse, ďOkay, Iím going to look.Ē She said, ďAre you sure you want to?Ē Does that tell you how out of control Iíve been??? Anyway, Iím keeping my new ultra high weight to myself for the time being. But hereís the way I look at it. I am super clear now that I have to GET BUSY. So thatís it. Iím trying to NOT be depressed about it and just deal with it. Also trying to NOT beat myself up about it. And also trying to NOT eat out my frustrations. HA!!! Now thereís a new concept!!! Incidentally, I have to go back to dr in 3 weeks, so that's the next time I'll weigh. Wish me luck for the next weigh in!

DEB---118??? Wowee!!! That is really low and really the weight of a skinny person!!! Whew, where did you go? Thatís awesome. It must have made you smile from ear to ear. Thatís so great! Good/Great/Super/Fantastic/Wonderful for YOU!!!!! Thanks for the cheesecake recipe. Life with cheesecake is SO much better than life without it! (Words to live by.)

SEF---Speaking as someone who works for a non-profit, you are a gold mine!!! Yes, you are the people we love to get working for us. Eager and willing to do what needs to be done. I train most of our volunteers and while everyone is certainly different from each other, there is this one terrific bond. Everybody wantís to help and make somebodyís life better. Habitat, no doubt, is so excited to have someone with your experience and know-how and love of life. Hope all is well. I think I missed something. Who died? Didnít you say that you made mashed potatoes for the wake. Just wondering. Call me nosey if you want, but iíd rather ask than worry.

Hi VIV!!!!! How are you? Whatís new in your end of the world? Hope those youngíuns are behaving themselves. I looked for you online last night. Were you glued to the Survivor finale??? Or glued to some hockey games???

FILLISE---So sorry to hear about your herniated disk. My good thoughts and prayers are headed your way. Iím hoping you will be painfree very soon and that that old arthritis will just disappear. Take care!

FROGGIE---Are you back yet??? Canít wait to hear all about the race from your point of view. How great was it??? You and your super bod that is so healthy is making me get up off this couch right now and move my big you-know-what to the TM!!! Thanks for your commitment, hon! Congrats!

Well, thatís it for me. Hope you all have a GREAT and SUPER weekend. Letís hear it for all the wonderful SBíers!!! Yippee and Yeehaw!!!

Take care, y'all!

THE BIG ORANGE BABE 01-11-2002 07:34 PM


This is a test....I couldn't post a while ago...so here goes nothing!


Rosalie 01-11-2002 07:46 PM

Zanne - I just found a Canadian site that sells Agave Nectar. I thought you might be interested. The price is $5.95 for 500 mls and $68 for 12/500 mls. I have just e-mailed them to find out what kind it is - light or dark - and the cost for shipping. I will let you know if I hear from them. I think it would be cheaper than ordering from the US, depending on the shipping rates of course.

The site is www.Gallowaysfoods.com.


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