So far I love this and I am developing some better habits. There's pretty much no way around the fact that I am a nibbler. There are just certain times of the day that I nibble (late afternoon is a huge one). P+ has me going for an apple or a clementine or crunchy veggies instead of the protein I was reaching for. Truth is I don't actually need the protein, I just really want to nibble. Fruit has never been a problem for me. I love it but it doesn't spike cravings no matter how much I eat (I've tested that during PYO seasons).


I will probably just buy a calculator once my three months online is up. I don't really see any benefit to the rest of the plan because I already have a perfect support system right here.

I am learning SO much about portion control. I used to serve myself some food and think it was about a cup, and eat it all. Now I measure out a cup and it is waaaaay less than what I thought a cup looked like. But the amount satisfies me. I am so happy. Cyndi, there are some websites that have calculators that are based on the PP system. I don't think they are legal, so can't post about them here.

Cyndi, the benefit for me is that i'm paying to use the tools and the fact that i'm doling out 18 bucks a month is a pretty large motivator to me using it. i also like the fact that i can track for extended periods, so if i'm having a stall or something, i can go back through the past few weeks and see if there are any bad patterns emerging.

ok. night one of no snacking. what is wrong that i can't commit to this? i've been doing well with everything except this. annnooooooooooooooying.

I'm a relapsed lifetime member of WW. I've been intrigued by SBD -- have a couple of the books and was an online member for awhile -- but have a lot of difficulty with any food being forbidden during a phase.

That said, I do believe strongly in eating fewer carbs and eating healthier and I do think SBD is very healthy.

So -- I've been following WW (I eat my daily points, my conservatively counted activity points and try very hard not to eat more than about 5 to 10 weekly points...I lose better not eating most of my WP). At the same time I've set up custom nutrients at MyPlate (this requires a paid membership) and I've put in percentage goals for fats, carbs, protein, fiber, sugars and sodium.

The tension is to keep the carbs on the lower end while not having the fats get too high. So I'm eating much more protein than in the past. So far it is going really well.

zeffryn, maybe you just need to get out of the habit. Instead of trying to manage your snacking, have you tried to just get rid of out outright for a week? Make a rule - no snacks after 6pm (or after dinner)? Something like this could very easily just be a bad habit you need to unlearn. In my own experience, once I open my mouth to put something in after dinner, it stays open. Try switching to some spicy ginger tea with lemon and a little splenda. If you have a teapot, keep it near you and just keep pouring out the tea. This works for me, plus ginger tea is really really good for your body too.

I hear you Zeffryn...I am back to snacking at night now that I'm on SBD?! I just get really hungry - maybe not enough veggies at dinner? Also, my DH cooks, so there is often fattier meats at dinner so I try to have smaller portions which probably leaves me hungry :(

mmc - that is what i have to do and what i did last night. if i snack, even if it is on plan, it seems to not stop. i seem to do really well for a few weeks and then trip up and fall off the wagon again...i'm going to try for long term success this time.

i'm just happy that i can recognize that it is an issue before it gets too out of control, ya know?

I'm the same if I start snacking when I get home as I prepare dinner. It really adds up. Another benefit of tracking with the points.

and another benefit was seeing just how many points were in the foods i was snacking on. 4 points for a handful of pretzels? no thanks.

I am brand new to 3FC and just had to respond to this thread. I tried WW so many times through the years - LOVED the meetings, weigh-ins, etc ; but never got past losing 10 pounds or so because I would inevitably succumb to cravings. About 10 years ago found out I was PCOS, about 4 years ago tried SBD for the first time - I did great, felt great, lost 20+ pounds. Then fell off. Tried again 3 years ago, once again did great, lost maybe 20, started exercising and felt better than I ever had. The problem that I kept having was that I couldn't see NEVER eating a sweet again, I'd go great guns for a couple of months, have a sweet, feel so dismally guilty and craving filled that I'd never get back on the beach. Then surprise! found out I was preggers. My sweet little miracle is going on two now, but I still look 8 months along. I heard about the new WW program - revamped P+ taking into account fiber and carbs, etc. Decided that I would try to sort of eat the SBD way within the P+ plan.

I'm so happy to see others who are doing this!!!!

I started WW January 2nd - I determined the first week that my oil/nut portions were way too high and did REALLY great the first week - dropping 10.8 pounds! I was definitely up from all of the holiday bingeing, but still....

Weighed in again this morning and down another .6 ... not much but I expected that after the huge loss and also DH and I had the first opportunity in ages last night for a date. We had a GC to a restaurant and I ate within the P+, but certainly not on the beach, so I knew it would affect my weigh-in.

Thats OK, though - this is what I want - to live on the beach MOST (90-95%) of the time and to learn how to enjoy myself (every now and then) without sabotoging myself. I know that health wise w/pcos and insulin resistance the beach is the best for me. But I do want to be "normal", too and have a treat now and then. LOVE my WW meeting and leader - I think SBD & P+ may just be the combination I need :)

So 11.4 pounds down ... another 70 or so to go. I am just at the beginning but also very encouraged. I am thrilled to see the success others are having with this combination. I'm considering trying the Simply Filling plan, which I picked up today at WW. Less measuring of beans, etc (I'm also a vegetarian) but still having the P+ control with the oils, nuts and olives.

So glad to have found you guys :)

Glad to have you here KarenDisney, so far it seems like this way is going to work for me as well. I weighed in today and lost another 1lb so I am down 6 lbs in two weeks and this is doing Phase 2. I have been eating more fruits than I normally do on SB but I am not craving anything and my artificial sweetener use has been drastically cut which I am happy about.

Amazing, Pearlrose!!!

Hey everyone!

This is exactly what I'm doing! Eating within my WW P+ but only beach-friendly foods. I slipped up and had a binge part way through the first week of phase 1, so I'm starting the two weeks over. This isn't vastly different from how I normally eat, except that I'm avoiding fruit and wine. Hopefully that makes a difference on the scale!

I just completed Phase 1 counting points and lost a total of 5.6 lbs! I'm counting on the points to help me transition to Phase 2 without significantly increasing my calorie intake.

Mmckellen - that's fantastic! I would LOVE to lose 5.6 pounds. I'm concerned that I won't lose a whole lot quickly because I'm not drastically changing my diet.. but that's okay. Slow and steady! And yes, I'm really going to rely on P+ when I start adding more foods. Something's going to have to give!