Vickie, you can take personally anything you want. You aren't the only member here though -- there are 49,000+ in addition to you. If a comment happens to apply to you, or describe you, that doesn't actually mean that it's directed TOTALLY TOWARD YOU.

I'm tired of walking on eggshells. I'm tired of watching every little word I say for fear that it will upset someone's fragile emotional state. I'm tired of not being able to have an opinion because there's a chance that someone will take it personally, whether or not it was directed to them. I'm tired of having people PM me asking about the Core program and if it works or not, because they have read the posts here and are puzzled ... wondering how it's possible given the stats they see. And yes, they do read and they do ask. They do wonder how someone could adhere to the plan (exercise or not) and yet not lose more than a pound or two per month on average.

And THAT'S why I'm done.

Hi everyone!!

First off - I just wanted to apologize in advance - I still feel like I am getting my bearings in here - feeling out the dynamics of the group - and will probably be a bit self centered in my posting - until I feel more comfortable re: being outgoing :)

On a side note - you may think this odd, but I actually find it a bit comforting to see some debating among the 'family' here. It's good to know that people can express opinions/feelings - and not necessarily agree - but still get along here. That's what is important. We can all provide support to each other even though we may not be in 100% agreement.

Vickie - sending you big hugs dear - is it your cat that is sick? I think I read that - how is she doing?

Everyone - thank you very much for your supportive replies. I really do appreciate the support. :hug:

I had kind of a rough day - totally due to my stupidity - but long story short - I forgot to eat lunch. I didn't get hungry, and didn't really try to eat until I started to feel ill around 3:30 this afternoon. I did eat then, but that and dinner after - well - I still feel crappy. I have had this happen before - and KNOW better - but just kept thinking how 'not hungry' I was and didn't want to eat anything. I was full. Menu today:

Bfast
1.5 egg/Ham/FF cheese
Coffee
Oatmeal Cookie

Lunch
Chicken salad
Banana

Dinner
Milk
3 oatmeal cookies
FF Hot dog/ light bun 1 pt each (2 pts total for the day)

will probably have another glass of milk and some pudding

Tina

I am actually getting a bit concerned - a friend told me today that when she was at her meetings - the majority of people doing Core didn't lose weight. Now I'm hearing that too here(maybe I need to read up more :( )

I'm feeling good about the plan really - but am beginning to worry that the success may be short lived.

I guess I need to read some more of the posts.

Tina

Tina, Core works if you follow the program, eat only until satisfied, follow the guidelines (veggies, fruit, dairy, water, healthy oil) and exercise. I lost fabulously in the beginning when I was following the program religiously and tracking every single extra WPA I put in my mouth. I'm 50 years old, perimenopausal, and haven't exercised much in the last 9-12 months for physical reasons and I've gained a few pounds back. It isn't the program's fault. There are two people following Core at my meeting. One lost an average of 15 pounds in 6 weeks and the other lost 12 in 6 weeks. I guess it will all come down to how carefully you follow the program. I don't claim to be an expert. I have to admit that I trusted WW enough to give the program a chance. It worked better for me than Flex.

Kathy, you don't have to be on eggshells. I'm not fragile at all! In fact, that's why I decided to speak up. I'm following Core and I'm tired of hearing the program knocked. This is the Core board and I shouldn't have to defend the program here. Good healthy debate is always appreciated, but for a long time now you have commented that you don't think the program works. That's the beauty of 3FC. If Core or WW doesn't work for someone or if it doesn't mesh with their philosophy then there is likely a board or a program that will match.

Hi:

I just learned that if you type a message, then go back on the boards to read, you lose the message! Oh well, I was just complaining about being tired and wanting to eat everything in sight. This has been such a lesson for me. I really had NO idea that I was so orally fixated..if you don't mind a little Freud here on the boards.

To those of you who are losing this week...congratulations...I'm so jealous! I wonder what I can do in the 16 days until the wedding? Let's see..what would only bread and water do? ;)

Isn't it ironic that so many people in the world can't get enough good food and we have to work so hard to control intake? This is a very strange world sometimes.

I hope all are well and have a great Core/Flore day tomorrow.

Rhonda

Hello all, this is my first post although I have been a lurker. It's hard sometimes to get the courage to make that first post. I'm going to be eating mostly all core foods but will also count points because my satisfaction button doesn't work all that well and I don't mind counting the points. It is sometimes hard to find a program that fits exactly but I believe this one is as close as I can find to what I'm looking for. I'm also from Canada and we don't have all the fat free foods here but we have some and the others that are 1% will have to do.

I know I'm jumping in at a time there is a little tension but I hope it gets worked out as you guys seem like such a great group. I think it's great to get different opinions on any subject and core is no different.

I'm hoping to get a lot closer to my goal by Christmas so wish me luck I'm sure I will need it lol.

Areil

Hi Areil and :welcome:

It IS a great board. I'm one with a faulty "satisfaction button" also! But, I'm learning.

My current struggle is staying away from empty calories/non-core foods when they are put in front of me. In other words, it's hard to say NO in the face of most of the crud that passes for food! But, I'm getting better at it and that's the point. The board has helped a lot in that regard. I hope it helps you in whatever is your hardest challenge.

Rhonda

Thank you so much for the welcome!!! I know what you mean about the empty calories that are hard to resist. At home it isn't hard for me because I just don't buy them...I am one of those people that can't have treats at home because I will eat them all at once until they are gone. It is definately harder when you go to places you can't control but I am going to try my best.

areil

Morning all. To those of you wondering if the Core plan works or not...it's the same as any other plan. It depends on how well you follow it, and your own body's unique way of handling weight loss. All I can say is, I followed the plan religiously for the most part, and lost 50 pounds in about 9 months. Granted, the weight was half "baby fat" and was probably easier to lose than some, but the second half had been with me for at least 8-10 years. Also, I think since I am younger and active, my metabolism allowed more "cheating" than, for example, my 53 year old, premenopausal mother. We could eat the same, exercise the same, and NOT lose the same. She did have more weight than me to lose (like 100 pounds) but she's managed to take off 50 pounds and is now in to the old, old fat that has been there for 20 years. It's been a struggle for her.

I really think that the Core plan works, but you have to take it seriously, and truly follow it. Even then, we all know everyone's weight loss history/experience is unique. I wish everyone would acknowledge this. I know some people here on this board are doing variations of Core, which is great, because they're tailoring the plan to their own lives. And I think these people, if asked, would make sure everyone knew that's what they were doing. They're not trying to pass it off as Core, but I can see that it would be confusing to someone coming in new. We tried for a while on our menus, etc to mark clearly what was Core/not, but we don't do that so much anymore. I think since this isn't an official WW website, we shouldn't be taken as the Core authorities, or be questioned because we're not following Core exactly but are still posting on a Core board.

We all came here because some element of the Core plan hit a chord with us. For me, it was the healthy, whole foods and the ability to eat when I was really and truly hungry. But regardless, we're all here because we want to have healthier lifestyles, and want a friendly support group. I love what we have here, and I don't want to see it go away because of misunderstandings. I have been disillusioned several times lately, and I really don't want it happening here too. :( That's all.

Angela

Well I see that everyone has been sufficiently scared away today. That's a shame. I think Angela stated things nicely...I consider you all my friends and that's that.
So on with life...
I am doing very badly with being on plan...any plan for that matter...I've even broken my exercise habit already. But I'm determined to get back on board. I have decided not to go back to school next semester, so I'll have more "me" time to take care of myself, my home, my business, etc etc etc. And hopefully my kid!! ;)
We went to look at laminate flooring today and found a place that we can get it much cheaper than other places. Very exciting! I've been saving my PC money just for it, and we have enough. I think we're going to go ahead and buy it but probably not put it down until after Christmas. With school it's just too much right now.
Well Aaron needs my help with something so I have to run.
I hope that all of you are doing well. I'm sorry for any and all hurt feelings. I have considered you all to be the best support group a girl could want. It's nice to have a "safe" place to vent!
Have a great weekend everyone!! :grouphug:

I just love the idea of old, old fat! I feel like a geological experiment now :lol:

I did very well today, after all my "stuff" about cookies. I hope I'm through a phase. I had to go out tonight and was concerned that I would not do well. BUT, I did. I found a way to eat only Core foods when I was surrounded by many other choices.

I also did an hour of Pilates. I must tell you that Pilates is fantastic. If you haven't tried it and are the least bit curious, go for it. Not all teachers are the same I know. Mine is unusual and we do a lot of power yoga with the Pilates. I have been doing this a few months and I do see and feel changes. I feel much, much stronger. I AM much, much stronger.

Angela, the friendly support group won't go away. I'm sure. Just keep writing, and encouraging others to participate. It's going to work out :cheer:

Rhonda

I see Melissa and I are writing at the same time. Good for you with your decision Melissa. I really hope for the best for you and your plans.

I would love to have some laminate flooring, but I have two dogs and I hate the sound of dog claws on laminate. I'm considering cork since I have a small space. It's expensive, but durable and quiet.

Rhonda

Rhonda congratulations on having a great day op!! :bravo: I'm very impressed. You are one determined gal. You are making me think about my pilates again...I have the Winsor pilates dvds but have never done them regularly, just sporadic here and there.
So what's the countdown to the big day?
I think cork floor is really neat. We actually looked into it because we thought that it was less expensive but soon found out we were wrong! :D
Good night!

Good morning everyone, it's Remembrance Day in Canada today so my thoughts are with the many men and women who sacraficed their lives and for the men and women that still do to fight for freedom and democracy.

My husband will be off work on Monday because Remembrance Day is a paid holiday for him and since it falls on a Saturday he will get Monday. We plan to put plastic on most of our windows this winter to keep the nasty winter cold out this year so that should keep him busy. We rent the house that use to belong to my stepmother's parents before they passed away and it is over a 100 years old so there are many drafty places that we need to put some spray foam in. The insulation is not very good in this house anymore so I'm sure the heat will cost at least $400 a month this winter. We have been here a few years and every year we get new air holes lol. Other than that I just plan to try and eat really good this weekend as it's my first back on plan so I really want to prove to myself I can do it.

Angela- You have been a great success on core and your message was a really nice one and very fair to all.

Melissa- I know what you mean about not being on plan as it has been awhile for me and I decided unless I want to go naked at Christmas(not a pretty sight lol) I better finally get serious again. Good luck with the laminate..I remember when it first came it there wasn't much to choose from but now they have so many different colours of stain and styles that I think I might get laminate when I get a house.

Rhonda- You sound like you are doing very well on plan and congrats to you for finding a way to eat core when surrounded by many other choices. That is so great that you love your pilates. I tried doing it at home and I did like it but I think I would like to go and have a teacher to make sure I'm doing it properly. I know I can sometimes get a little lazy with doing workout tapes at home. I always wondered what cork would look like but where it is more expensive and I don't have any pets I probably wouldn't get it but it sounds like it would be really nice. I guess no point on worrying what I will put on my floors when I don't even have a house yet lol.

Angela, thank you very much for your beautiful post and heartfelt support of the Core program. I especially appreciate your sharing the details of your Mom's weight loss struggle since they are so similar to my own.

I wish everyone the very best of success in their weight loss endeavors.