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Thanks Cher......I didn't know the white was 1 pt too......I just never bought it but might try for a change of pace....isn't one of the breads 2 pts though besides the bagels??? Most times I just buy Natures Own 100% whole wheat, big slices and two for 1 pt.
BTW.....Good going on the Cheese :-)

Sometimes I just get to missing bread.....I can do without the baked potato, and brown rice, I do however like to put some Whole Wheat macaroni in with a soup mix.....
I am STILL battleing that satisfied/full thing...you'd think I'd have this thing down pat by now so I am trying to do my chicken, fish, in portion sizes.....I am not a big red meat eater so that's fine....I did purchase the 96/4 LEAN beef for hamburgers and someone at the meeting suggestion ground chicken for burgers and I picked that up too, and it really was quite good.

HOWEVER....I did not have a great last few days but at least I am not giving up totally....eventually it has to sink in....wonder why I have a few good days, and then.....I fall....who knows .....I 'll just keep on keeping on ....soooooo I may move my goal to Labor Day, as July 4th is fast approaching
Frank comforts me everyday that we talk if I 'JUST STICK TO IT' it will work for me......I know that BUT..... I get so sidetracked especially if I have a BAD day at work, which is normally every Mon Tues and Wed....I want to come home and eat the refrig....and many days I do...So I have to come up with a plan.....Also I asked this about 5 pages ago but no responses.....For those who DON'T weigh in on Saturday, why do you or did you pick a 'during the week day' I am thinking of switching w/i day......and sure would like some feedback.....THANKS!!
Hey Vickie are you Ok??? How did Jim do??? Hope you both are ok.....
Ciao for now.............LJ

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linda, we're all here excited about terry's fantastic wi. i'll bet she still have a smile ear to ear, don't you?

cher, give yourself a pat on the back. enjoy your strawberries.
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I'm not sure if there are different kinds of WW breads. My grocery store doesn't stock very many WW products. I do know you have to watch out for some other things, like the Western bagels, which have some 1 point sizes and some 2 points.

The strawberries were great. They came from our Co-op and were probably expensive as heck (dh bought them), but they are so much better than the grocery store ones that taste like wet styrofoam.
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Wow, you guys sure can chat! I missed posting this morning as I had to go to a quilt group and now was the first time all day I had a chance to check in! Had to read for something like 10 minutes to get to this point to make my own post! But, I did it.
I did mean the WW bread, 2 slices for one point. It's what I refer to as "palletable" (sp?) and only that. It is a good "vehicle" to have what I refer to as a "WW grilled cheese", I use non-stick WW butter spray on one side of each piece of bread and FF American cheese and only one slice. It's more of a substitute for a "normal" grilled cheese, but it's still good enough. I have a few slices of dill pickle on the side and make my cream of tomato soup with ff milk (core) it can be a 1 flex point lunch and quite tasty.
I'm being bothered by my other family members munching on things. I'm on this plan, not them, and they have made great protests that I shouldn't cut out buying the items they want to have. It's my feeling that I have to use resistance and learn to control myself. Unless I lived alone, I will always have this kind of thing all my life and I have to learn how to eat properly and balance my own diet. No one is responsible but me.
I do plan on trying to creat a core cake of some kind as well as a bread. Bearing in mind what Vickie cautioned, though, I am not going to add non-core foods and will try to not alter any of the core foods. Where there is a will, there is a way!
I feel that if I find a few recipes that lean towards being core, perhaps a few substitutes could work. I would be totally thrilled to come up with some kind of bread type of thing to use with my bread machine, especially. I miss my breads!
LJ, I know what you mean about eating until you are "satisfied". I've been in on discussions about this at ww meetings and have heard a few people who were on CORE and stopped it as they lost control. One woman in particular suffers from what I would call a "food addiction". She goes beyond what the average person has to deal with, I think. We all have bad habits and we all have time when we lose control, but she is truly an addict and she just can't do the core plan as she can't handle portion control
I am trying to recognize that this is not a "free for all" kind of food fest for me. It's a hard thing to do. It's very hard, as well, to sit beside someone at lunch who is happily crunching and munching on Doritos, dipping them in salsa and exclaming how "great" they are while I am eating vegetable soup and having a boiled egg and ff cottage cheese, which is NOT interesting at all to me. I've got to find some stuff that makes me feel excited or this is not going to work at all.
Maybe I need to make CORE crackers? I'm really big on crunch.
Oh well, enough meanerdering for one night.
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Terry, thanks for the info about knees. Many moons ago, when I was in high school I think, I had to wear a knee brace if I ran. My kneecap has a tendency to move around too much. So maybe its just old problems resurfacing. Congrats again on your awesome loss. You really do work hard.

Linda, you can do it! I'm sorry for forgetting, but what is your 4th of July goal? To answer your question about w/i...I used to do it on Monday simply b/c that is the day that I joined WW online. I just switched last week to Friday b/c I have a tendency to blow all of my points on the weekend. I figure if my wpas started over on Friday, that way if I messed up on the weekend I could make up for it during the week. It doesn't really make any difference except in the way that I think about things.

Cher, I'm sorry to hear that you are so stressed about $ issues. I can relate. Money issues can really be difficult to handle.

NH Linda, It sounds like you are doing great planning. I can imagine that it would be very difficult to eat differently than your entire family. I'm glad that I don't have to deal with that, as it is only DH and I, and he eats my core meals. He snacks, but nothing really bad, as he is trying to lose weight too. Good luck.

Just got home not too long ago, and DH is at work. Ended up going to my brother's baseball game after work (yes I have a 7 year old brother) and then ate a salad at my dad's house. I am still hungry so am about to raid the kitchen. Hopefully I'll find something coreish there.
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Hi Guys! You all have magic in your good thoughts. Jim is home safe and sound and did not get selected for a jury. He was on a panel to be interviewed but they filled the jury before he was interviewed. If he had been selected he would have had to go back tomorrow. I feel exhausted from not enough sleep but from worry as well.

I won't be able to respond to everyone's posts until tomorrow after my MRI. I'm supposed to be gathering my insurance information to give to them before the test. I'm thinking I'm going to weigh in after the MRI. I'm too tired to wait until 5:30 to weigh in and go to a meeting. I'm so worn out that I almost don't care what my weigh in will be. Frouf, I don't know how you go on so little sleep and with as many adrenalin rushes as you have. I've just had about 36 hours of it and I'm about to drop!

Terry, you are amazing. I'll celebrate with you properly tomorrow. I'm very, very, happy for you.
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I'm still marveling that Melissa has a 7 year old brother -- I could have a 7 year old GRANDSON!

Looks like the job for my DS at Dr Pepper will materialize. He went and got his CDL permit today. They are letting him train on the job since he has big truck experience, and in a few weeks when he takes the CDL test they will let him use the Dr Pepper truck. You just can't beat that -- and he said today he was amazed that he found this job. He's very thankful for the connections that Judd and I have (and used) for him.

Vickie, mucho good vibes for your WI tomorrow. I'm laughing at the sleep issue -- Judd has been sick for the last few days. His symptoms: he feels crappy and can't sleep. I just laughed and said welcome to my world. If I get four hours a night, I call that a success!! (He was not amused.)
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Vickie, : and for your MRI tomorrow. I know you are nervous but everything will be fine. And for weigh-in tomorrow, even though its understandable that you don't care much right now. And so glad that Jim did not have to do jury duty.
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Vickie - glad to hear Jim is safe and sound - now lock him up and throw away the key! Hope u get a good rest and good luck w/the MRI!

Cher - well that must have been some amazing camera! Sorry to hear about the $$ problems - but I know we can all relate (and yes I also had to shell out over $1200 for camps this summer and then there's the dance lessons starting in September!!!).

LindaNH - yes I agree the "satisfied" feeling is a bit elusive sometimes (she says as she sits w/her bloated stomach having eaten too much dinner). I also believe that experimenting w/different foods and recipes will make your meals more "exciting"!

LJ - nice to hear from you and to see you are still hanging in there! Good for you.

Kaputo (sorry I couldn't help myself ) - I think I have found some of those hidden cameras filming my most unbelievable reactions to what is going on and it ain't pretty - I think they are now at the bottom of the pile of rice chips and leftover salsa! They ran screaming from the room as they couldn't handle all this drama!

My summer goal is to hit 184 lbs by Labor Day (there I've said it now and written it here so I must make it happen)...which will bring me to 40 lbs gone! Wish me luck.

Took dd to therapist today (and almost had my van washed away w/a sudden thunderstorm and downpour w/streetlights out - what a nightmare!), and spoke w/her about dd's most recent behaviour - and she agreed that we were well within our right to withdraw privileges which was too bad cuz one of the strategies she and dd were discussing was to call someone when she was feeling sad to talk thru her feelings - and with her phone privileges constantly being in jeopardy due to disobedience this might be a problem.

Therapist also realized that dd is not that "enamored" of me and does not really want to do stuff w/me (except shopping where she gets to spend my money!), and she suggested to dd (and me too I guess) that we might want to work on this. She suggested maybe a movie together - but I explained no I wasn't really into The Amityville Horror or House of Wax

...and all the way home dd was trying to convince me to let her dye her hair black again - I think it is so unattractive on her - but I am thinking to stop fighting this and just let her do it - she just doesn't care what I think and that her chemically treated hair will one day fall out if she starts messing with it too much. So ya one day she'll say I was right - big deal - maybe not worth the battle right now?

I also realized I cannot DRINK WINE - I am a very cheap drunk and drinking leads to overeating - at least in my case. Of course I was very HUNGRY and cranky when I got home (only to find out dh forgot to drop off dinner to ds who was working and unable to get home due to getting caught in rain) and having to go out again to get him some dinner (Ya I know - spoiled rotten).

Had a nice steak w/stir fried onions/mushrooms, 1/2 sweet potato, 1/2 corn on the cob, and some salad. And ONE glass of red wine - and I swear the room was spinning when I stood up....then this urge to eat more overcame me. So I had some rice chips dipped in salsa - and then a sf/lf fudge bar!

So for the past couple of hours I have been feeling bloated and yucky! I should just stay away from the stuff!

Best news is - the cleaning lady was here today and the house is (still) clean - and she even CLEANED the fridge today - I just freaked when i opened the fridge and saw shiny clean fridge shelves - dh wanted to know what I was excited about - of course he had opened the fridge several times and not even noticed!

I am a bit fearful of the bbq tomorrow - I pre-ordered chicken on a bun (I asked and was told it was a chicken breast and not one of those breaded things and I hope that's right!). I have packed up a salad just in case or maybe in addition to whatever else I eat (do not plan to eat the chips or ice cream or anything to core unfriendly!).

Time for bed - nitey nite!

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linda, i typed you a long post about why i wi on fri but i don't have a clue where it is. this is a mystery to me. it may be on another thread. guess i had another lucy moment. anyway, melissa and i used to wi on monday. why did i wi on monday? because monday is sort of a "send off" day for me. i can't tell you how many diets i've started on mondays over the years. also, the first time i joined ww (back in 68)--it was a monday am class. i sort of got in the mindset of monday wi's making me more accountable on the weekends.

so why did i change to friday? someone suggested melissa and i wi on fri because we might weigh less than on mondays because weekends usually involve a little more eating than during the week. i guess because of work. even though i'm retired i do still tend to eat more on sat/sun. (get togethers and such)

there was a period a few years ago that i had a ww class on sat am. i didn't mind weighing on sat then. you get used to a routine. i do admit, though, that i'm enjoying fri better than mon.

what do the rest of you think?
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Vickie sooooo glad Jim is home safe and sound.....I am sending you good vibes for your MRI.....you will be fine....had one myself not too long ago, but I was in the enclosed one!!!!!

Melissa and Sandra THANK YOU for answering my w/i day question...I am thinking of changing but I can't figure out which other day I would, since I tend to eat more on Saturday but lately it seems Friday is 'becoming' one of THOSE days too!! and doesn't make for a good w/i on Saturday!!!!Must be decompression from the work week FINALLY being over!! I was thinking Thursday's too. I am going to give this some thought, because in my own sick mind it is important to me Go figure!!
Anyway....I have a good core day planned....so far....God if I only stay with it without the stress eating I will be fine....I think Popcorn is in my future when I get in from work today....although I am really not a popcorn eater....but it's safe, right?????? and I shouldn't feel guilty about it!!
Well, here's too a good day out there......'see' you all later............Lj

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Good morning all.
Glad Jim is not on Jury Duty any longer. I was on it a few years ago and I found it interesting and fun, in a way. It was The Grand Jury and I was amazed at the amount of crime in what I considered to be a small, rural country. Shocking what goes on.
Froufie, how old is this daughter of yours? Your story sounds like a day in my own house with my 14 year old. Maybe not as drastic as your situation (you poor thing!) but I can totally relate. My DD has hypoglycemia and is slowly but surely putting on weight, she went to WW with me last year and was looking totally awesome and now just doesn't seem to care. I think it's vengance on me, quite honestly. Her own way of "getting to me" as a parent. Some days we get along ok and other days not.
She asked to die her hair black this week as well... not sure why as her hair is gorgeous. We went out (I try to choose my battles and figure this is not one I care about right now vs. keeping her healthy) to a specialty beauty salon shop and looked over TEMPORARY hair dyes. I told her she could dye her hair blaci if she used the kind of dye that washes out after 6 weeks or so. We looked all the temp products over and she kind of chickened out on her own. I know she wants a different look and we settled for a new hair style and on her own she chose to have her hair highlighted yesteray. The stylist was very good and steered her towards a very subtle "sun kissed" look and one can barely tell it was even done unless you are looking for it.
At least she feels pampered now and that I paid attention to her needs! I think part of what was going on with the black hair thing was that she wants to "show off" to her friends a "new look" for summer?
Hey, guys, if you were going to try to adapt a recipe that called for a 1/2 cup of apple juice concentrate to sweeten it, how much splenda would you use instead? Would you maybe use SF maple syrup instead? Just curious.
I found a recipe in the sugar free hypoglycemia cookbook for an apple upside down cake. Aside from the fruit juice concentrate and the flour, it's core. So, if I use Splenda and use oatmeal in place of the four, I am wondering what I might come up with! I might try making two of these concoctions and use something other than oatmeal, perhaps cornmeal? Not sure.
Well, off to a meeting for me this morning. I'll try to ignore any doughnuts that people keep bringing to things like this!
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I weigh in on Wednesdays, because that's the day I started WW again. I like it, because it's a good representation of how my week is going. Plus, I have a few days to recover from the weekend, if it was bad.

Speaking of, at my weigh-in last night, I was down a pound, so that puts me at my lowest WW official weight yet, since I've started "maintaining."

I worked in the garden this morning for about 1 hour, 20 minutes. It really was a bit too muddy and wet to be out there, but oh well. The work needed to be done, and I don't think I did too much damage with compressing the wet dirt, etc. (makes it hard to work with later).

Today we're planning to go to the library, and pick up the girls' first prize packages for the summer reading program. There's also a guy in concert there today too - we may step in for that if we get there in time. Although the way my girls have been bickering I feel like locking them in separate rooms all day long! It's so frustrating, as they get along really well most of the time. But one thing will set them off, and they just escalate it until I have to intervene so no one gets hurt. Grrr!

We made sand last night by shaking some pebbles and water in a can. (We found the idea in a book). Dd thought it was so cool, and it actually worked! We'll be fillling our sandbox in no time!

Well, better get to work. Laundry and dishes are waiting.

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Sandra/Lucy, I saw your reply on another thread and at the time, it didn't make sense but now it does because I see you were answering something that was asked on THIS thread. Whew, I think I just confused myself. Anyway, it makes sense.

I was down 2 pounds this morning from yesterday morning. One of those big whooshes that happens occasionally, so what did I do? I rewarded myself with a coke. And I wonder why I'm constantly battling with myself?

It's going to be 99 here today but possibly rain this afternoon. We need it in the worst way -- it hasn't rained in a while and things are starting to look bad in the yard. We've been delaying setting the system timer on the sprinklers, but I don't think we can put it off anymore. There's that Mexican potluck at lunch today, so I brought the chicken, rotel and corn soup in a crockpot. I made a double batch and it made a washtub full! Good grief, I hope these folks are hungry!

I guess I'd better get busy and earn my keep. Or something like that.
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