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susie 09-14-2004 02:21 PM

Badge - I totally agree that it "sounds like nonsense". In my opinion the rumors about core food combinations are not correct and don't make any sense when you try to apply them to anything but individual people. (PLEASE don't let this start an argument - I realize that others trust their sources - I am going by what my leader and my Local franchise, and WW materials say).

Unless a particular combination of Core foods into a recipe is causing a particular problem (i.e. a trigger food) it is completely okay under Core. Plain and simple. The new WW Core Cookbook contains a recipe for Potato-Zuchinni Pancakes that includes potatoes, corn meal etc. to make pancakes. The Week 4 literature recommends certain ingredients for use in recipes that result in core foods.

The cool thing about this plan is that it provides guidelines - Those of us that subscribe to the principles and guidelines are charged with the responsibility of figuring out what works. I like having that responsibility.

p.s. Here's a link to the recipe:
Edited - Sorry I can't make the link work. The recipe is in the new WW cookbook and posted on BCB.

Kelly_S 09-14-2004 02:31 PM

Your link doesn't work (may still be a conflict betweent his site and that one --- long story). I did find the recipe over at BCB and it is 2 tablespoons of cornmeal that makes up a vegetable 'pancake' which is Core and not a bread or baked good that isn't.

However I did confirm about there are changes to the books and clarification on what is and is not a core food. Not arguing and I posted another thread that may help people on another member revelation about Core...do what you find best but W/W did over a year and a half of research and has made 'rules' and 'guidelines' for a reason. Yes we can only believe what we have been given and we even have a leader (CIN) who confirmed her region has gotten the changes already (as has other various ones) and they are coming down the pipeline. Do what is best for you! No one is saying otherwise.

QuilterInVA 09-14-2004 04:48 PM

Why are people trying to do core if they don't want to follow the rules? Makes no sense when the flex plan is available. Just goes to show they don't take the time to read the materials or maybe they don't go to meeting and are trying to wing it. If they know how to do it better than WW, I don't see how they got overweight to begin with.

Bayleysmom 09-14-2004 05:52 PM

LOL susan!

I'm not doing CORE yet but have been lurking to find out more until my current diet needs to be kicked up a notch. This certainly is a hot thread sometimes. I'm learning a lot though. Keep it up ladies!

Kelly_S 09-14-2004 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuilterInVA
Why are people trying to do core if they don't want to follow the rules? Makes no sense when the flex plan is available. Just goes to show they don't take the time to read the materials or maybe they don't go to meeting and are trying to wing it. If they know how to do it better than WW, I don't see how they got overweight to begin with.

Once again you are misunderstand what the post is about. It is about clarification not about breaking or bending rules. It is about UNDERSTANDING and COMPREHENSION. Re-read it and you'll see that.

fiftieslady 09-14-2004 08:24 PM

I finally chose a picture for my name. If someone else already has this one let me know and I will try to find something else.

Back to the original post, maybe they don't give you information because they want you to go to the meetings and pay the weekly fee. That would be my guess, since they are a for-profit organization.

I paid to be on-line but can't say that I'm finding much help there besides having the Core list and the points pad to keep up with my extra points and charting my losses.

Keep faith. We will figure this out sooner of later, and in the meantine we are losing so we gotta be doing something right!

badge 09-15-2004 09:15 AM

Hi Everyone:

Obviously WW has not done a great job of making things clear. That seems to be a fact and I think what it all comes down to is that if you use core to make a food and it is not a trigger food for you it is okay. If you can't handle that don't do it. As with anything you have to use common sense and be flexible enough to do what works for you. Our leader uses a WW'ism that basically means not one thing works for everyone. Just as some could eat the top of the range and lose and some had to work the bottom, WW has never been all that rigid. It's a lifestyle change and with anything in life, you have to have some flexibility to make it work.

Angie-Wangie 09-15-2004 07:23 PM

I too found the customer service for WW to be less than helpful or even kind. I got the brushoff when asking a question about pricing. I work for a health insurance company and we would not have a job very long if we treated customers that way.

India On The Beach 09-15-2004 10:37 PM

I'm really new to this, but in all the years that I started (& stopped) WW, they were always generous with their information if you go to a meeting. Myself, I can't afford it right now. I have the books & information. I feel they got into a panic with all the lower/healthier carb diets like South Beach. They want it to be a little different so they wouldn't appear to be a copycat (my opinion, again). They're winging it right now. Common sense says if you use Core ingredients (lean meat, vegetables, brown rice) in a casserole, it's CORE. Bread is bread. I don't know anyone who can eat a small portion of cornbread. Cornmeal polenta is a different story. You don't need to eat a lot of that to be satisfied, it's the density they're talking about. One other thought, in the Complete Food Companion, there really isn't that much that explains the "diet". Other diets (SB, Atkins) have books one can purchase that explain the jist of the diet. Customer service doesn't know the answers because they are afraid of giving out the wrong info because right now this seems like it's trial & error.

fiftieslady 09-16-2004 08:31 AM

India, I can eat 1 slice of cornbread, no problem--but don't put a bowl of mixed nuts in front of me--I would have it empty in no time with mindless munching. :o I don't have a big problem with keeping to portions when eating a meal. I fix my plate in the kitchen and take it to the table. I usually don't even finish what I thought I needed. But snacking would be another matter--especially if I am stressed.

Have a good day yall.

Kelly_S 09-16-2004 08:58 AM

You know I just thought of something. Maybe they did not think that so many would come up with the 'carb' options (and I believe truly that maybe the test group didn't) such as the corecorn bread and now are clarifying some of the 'recipes' that the truly creative people have come up with.

Angie-Wangie 09-16-2004 05:11 PM

Peanuts!!
 
Janette...I have two trigger foods....Trail Mix with the M&M's in it and Peanut Butter!!

Maloneli 09-16-2004 09:08 PM

Bayley's mom...Happy Birthday to your baby! I love your lilliepie line. I tried to attach one a while back, but my internet provider was giving me trouble, I coul dnot figure it out?

Well, I really just wanted to say happy birthday...My TJ is 14 months

Maloneli 09-16-2004 09:17 PM

wow this thread was hot today.. But you know what, I find the world is rude today. People are just plain mean, most of the time...that when someone is nice, I think they are up to something? Sad to be like that?
Also, I don't want to be disrespectful? but at my WW, the woman are kind of older and they can't really handle all the questions and confusion during weigh in...they start getting snappy.

maybe you got a cranky group? Is ther a 1800 WW #


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