Hi, just trying to get some opinions

The original vegan veggie burgers
cal: 70
fat: .5g
carb:6
fiber:4
sugar::0
Protein:13
water, soy protein concentrate, and wheat Gluten-- First 3 ingredients

Im sick of "oatmeal" & RTD shakes in the AM and Boca bugers are quick and easy to make. Would I still be on plan if I use these??

I was told no....don't know about others

As a vegetarian, I use these for dinner protein sometimes (using the "All American" -- it has 6 grams carbs/6 grams fibers and 15 grams protein). I don't know about using them as a replacement for a packet at other times though.

I found the recommendation for the All American Boca from an old thread for Vegetarians. I got burned out on them early on, but now I use them about once every couple weeks.

A coach will say NO b/c it cuts into profits.
I see a bit less protein than a packet.
Scorbett is our resident non-biased analyst

If you really wanted to, you could probably have 1.5 at least for it to have the same amount of protein as a packet, little more.

1.5 patties will give you 105 calories, only 4 net carbs, and almost 20 grams of protein.

LOL You know me too well

So I compared the Original Vegan with a few of the non-restricted packets (because based on the carb content, it would be a non-restricted item). They are actually pretty comparable - the only thing I noticed is that the calcium content is low (closer to the omelette packets) compared with the puddings and drinks (those provide 30-50% of your RDA of calcium, compared to 6% in the Boca burgers.

I don't advocate using them as your dinner protein because you would have to eat 4 or 5 of them to get the correct amount of protein at dinner - but they actually look viable as a packet replacement.

Great advice! When I use the Boca All American or any other Vegetarian protein for dinner that doesn't add up to the 40-50 grams of protein recommended, I add some egg whites to my shakes. That makes up for the lost amount of protein without adding in extra carbs or fat.

THANKS LADIES!!

Im going to do a Boca Burger and egg whites, its soo nice to have more options

Check out Gardein Chick'n strips, too. They have almost 40g of protein in *two* servings for about a total of 200 calories (6carb/2fiber).

Starshine - as another vegetarian, I would be very interested in hearing about your protein choices, just to get some new ideas!

Here is a link to a spreadsheet of vegetarian products I used on phase 1 (except maybe one product and I can't remember which one it is!).

You can use it to mix & match for your dinner protein, which I was told should come up to about 30 to 40g protein and should be kept at the net carbs of 8 to 10g. If you go up to 15g net carbs then don't have a restricted product that day, just have 3 non-restricted packets.

It has all the info I found on the boxes, so if you want to consider micro as well as macronutrients, it's there for you.

The Boca stuff is not on there because I didn't use them, not because they are bad or anything. If you would like to be able to update it, PM me with your e-mail and I will send you a link that will allow you to add stuff. (I am hesitant to post it that way as it can get inadvertently messed up and I'm not in it very often to catch it and fix it back.)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...1VLWEExNXRoX2c

I admit I rely on the meat analogs in maintenance as I am still too lazy to figure out how to put in beans and such for the fat meal, although I will add them to the carb meal. I think that it MIGHT slow weight loss depending on which products you are using, but IP was still the easiest plan once you get in the groove.

I liked to have the MorningStar sausage patties with eggs as a dinner combo. One of those odd IP craving things as that was not something I ever had before IP.

Hope this is useful to you.