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Originally Posted by HOWGS527
Your statement is your opinion, not a fact. We are all entitled to our opinion, including myself. Factually, It has worked effectively & successfully for many suffering people.
Your stance sounds more like a lack of information/ ignorance.... let's not prevent the great possibility that these programs would be the final thing that actually works for many people. I've tried everything. And OA is not enough structure to be of enough help to me.
Let's be open to other ideas, whatever will work for each of us, so that we ALL can have a solution. ;-) The same thing does not work for every one. To each their own.
Calling it anorexia is a bit much.... it is a big change to adjust to when we're used to piggin out for so many years is all. Takes time... one day at a time.
God bless you!!
No. I'm reporting facts as facts. Don't go pretending to be nice and then spreading mis-information that hurts our program as a whole.
The grey sheet is NOT OA. You can read a list of OA literature here:
http://www.oa.org/pdfs/oa%20approved...ure%20list.pdf
Note that there are no diets on this list, including the suggestions of OA HOW. If you dig a little with OA HOW, you'll notice that they do include some wiggle room for the advice from a registered nutritionist. (And avoiding sugar and white flour are two things that harm almost no-one. The only exception I can think of is people who require a FODMAP diet.)
If you want more information on the grey sheet, how it came to be confused with OA literature, the best place to look it "Beyond Our Wildest Dreams." It was written by one of the founders. This is also OA approved literature, so you can know that its been "vetted" by many people with opposing viewpoints. Here's a excerpt explaining that the grey sheet is NOT OA:
http://www.oasandiego.org/foodplan.htm
The grey sheet proposes a diet that does not provide adequate nutrition for the many people. There are very small numbers of people for whom this is a safe and healthy diet. The reason why OA specifically forbids enforcing any one diet on all members is that we all have different nutritional needs.
If you are new to OA, you might not know this yet, but there are many, many members who START with a normal weight or like my first sponsor, underweight. This is because they manage to control their weight by rotating binge dieting with binge eating, or they are bulimic or anorexic. We have members that fit all of these categories. If you talk like OA is a fatties-only club, you will be creating a wedge between yourself and them that does not belong.
Yes, for a person already too thin, eating under 1000 calories a day, which is perfectly likely on the grey sheet, might cause them to become gravely ill with anorexia. I'm not exaggerating. I'm talking about a life and death illness. Also, for those of us with a history of restricted eating, having a diet which restricts our eating again is likely to spin us into control issues and worsening mental health - a far cry from the recovery promised in the Big Book.
The Big Book promises that "We have ceased fighting anything or anyone—even alcohol. For by this time sanity will have returned. We will seldom be interested in liquor. If tempted, we recoil from it as from a hot flame. We react sanely and normally, and we will find that this has happened automatically. We will see that our new attitude toward liquor has been given us without any thought or effort on our part. It just comes! That is the miracle of it. We are not fighting it, neither are we avoiding temptation. We feel as though we had been placed in a position of neutrality”
Excerpt From: The Anonymous Press. “Alcoholics Anonymous.” iBooks.
https://itun.es/us/vsH7z.l
This is the promise of OA. Not that we will be able to starve ourselves down into an "acceptable" body-size, but that we can develop a new relationship with food that is sane and healthy. If working the HOW restrictions feels healthy to you, that's OK. But please broaden your thinking a bit to understand that OA is not a diet program (and its not a lifestyle change either, lol.) If you do use OA for the diet, I suppose that's fine, too, but it makes me sad because there is so much richness that you miss when you do that.