Thanks for the new thread, Jyoyo! I have had a strange reaction to WS from yesterday and I will make the disclaimer that I did not drink water ALL day. Bad me! I am retaining SO much fluid, it is unreal. Like puffy as a puffer fish, and I cannot help but worry, are these products loaded with sodium?? Or is it because I drank no water all day? If I drink the prescribed amount of water, will the sodium not affect me? I am totally SALT sensitive.
Hi everyone - after reading about the water conversation, have decided to attach some information that I found some time ago and have shared previously. But think there are enough new people to share again, and it also does me good to remind myself about these things:
Water: 75% of Americans are chronically dehydrated (likely applies to half the world population); in 37% of Americans, the thirst mechanism is so weak that it is mistaken for hunger; even mild dehydration will slow down one's metabolism as much as 3%; one glass of water will shut down midnight hunger pangs for almost 100% of the dieters studied in a Univ.of Washington study; lack of water is the #1 trigger of daytime fatigue; preliminary research indicates that 8-10 glasses of water a day could significantly ease back and joint pain for up to 80% of sufferers; a mere 2% drop in body water can trigger fuzzy short-term memory, trouble with basic math & difficulty focusing on the computer screen or on a printed page; and drinking 5 glasses of water daily decreases the risk of colon cancer by 45%, plus it can slash the risk of breast cancer by 79% and one is less likely to develop bladder cancer.
Actually, feel that I am one of the lucky ones as I do like real water. However, it needs to be cold for me......so I refrigerate my little bottles, or have it over ice. I have four 17.5 oz. snapple glass bottles that I use and refill daily to get my water. Hope this info. helps
I am currently doing Medifast but have started ordering some Wonderslim and Bariwise products as they are cheaper! Has anyone here transitioned over from one to the other? The Wonderslim plan as outlined on the dietsdirect website is a bit confusing and I am not sure what to eat if I go on that totally.
So it says the daily plan is
3 meal replacements
3 protein supplements
1 snack bar
1 lean and green
Then the menu includes fruit which is confusing me because its not on the daily plan.
Also on the menu it says
Breakfast: 1 WonderSlim® Pudding/Shake OR Smoothie
1 WonderSlim® Hot Cakes OR Crunch Cereal OR Hot Oatmeal
1 Optional OR 1 Dairy
Does that mean I have a shake, cereal and something else for breakfast? all of that?
it also says I starch at dinner, where does that fit in?
Right now I am doing right around 1,000 calories, 120g carbs, and 80-110g protein.
Jennifer- I have not forgotten you in regards to my daily food journal. I got bombarded with school, work and events that I have not had time to share those. I do not use fitday, I use my fitness pal so I was trying to figure out the easiest way to share them without having to type them up. Then I realized I have not even posted to my blog like I had planned to.
Anyway, I have been on program Thur, Fri, Sun, Mon, Tue and Today. Saturday night was a halloween party so I had a little extra. Today I decide to step on the scale, still no movement. Ugh.
As a positive, I have to admit that I do feel better. But it is still frustrating. Once the time change is done it will be easier for me to get back in to my exercise routine.
Also wanted to let you guys know I started a thread to share how we prepare our foods:
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/diet...r-recipes.html
Quote:
Originally Posted by keziah23
I am currently doing Medifast but have started ordering some Wonderslim and Bariwise products as they are cheaper! Has anyone here transitioned over from one to the other? The Wonderslim plan as outlined on the dietsdirect website is a bit confusing and I am not sure what to eat if I go on that totally.
So it says the daily plan is
3 meal replacements
3 protein supplements
1 snack bar
1 lean and green
Then the menu includes fruit which is confusing me because its not on the daily plan.
Also on the menu it says
Breakfast: 1 WonderSlim® Pudding/Shake OR Smoothie
1 WonderSlim® Hot Cakes OR Crunch Cereal OR Hot Oatmeal
1 Optional OR 1 Dairy
Does that mean I have a shake, cereal and something else for breakfast? all of that?
it also says I starch at dinner, where does that fit in?
Right now I am doing right around 1,000 calories, 120g carbs, and 80-110g protein.
The Wonderslim Plan allows for a bit more food than the MediFast and New Lifestyle Plan. They tend to be around 800-1080 calories where WS rounds out about 1200.
Wonder Slim (if you are doing all supplements I think someone posted that in the Wonderslim #4 thread)
Breakfast: 1 Pudding, Shake or Smoothie
AND
1 Hotcake, Cereal or Oatmeal
AND
1 Optional
or 1 Dairy (this is syrup for your pancakes or milk for your cereal.
AM Snack: 1 Pudding, Shake or Smoothie
AND
1 Fruit
Lunch: 1 Lite Entrée
or Soup
AND
1 Snack Bar
PM Snack: 1 Pudding, Shake
or Smoothie
Dinner: 1 Protein (4oz lean)
AND
2 Vegetables (1 cup each, and there is a lot to choose from!)
AND
1 Starch (hello potato!)
AND
1 Optional ( you can choose to use or not)
Dessert: 1 Chocolate Cake, Cheesecake, Pudding, Hot Drink
or Fruit Drink (program food, of course)
1000-1200 Total Calories
I printed off the Food and Activity Diary to use weekly. Then I printed the Meal Plan and the Food List/Shopping Guide and put those in a plastic page keeper so they would not get all yucky and crinkled from use.
The fruit is allowed as a morning snack with the pudding/shake supplement. A fruit serving for WS is about 60 calories or less. For Breakfast, the easiest way to explain it is you get to pick one thing from EACH of the three rows. I usually do pudding, cereal and milk, or pudding, pancake and sugar free syrup, or pudding, eggs and some fat free cottage cheese. That gives me supplement, protein and the allowed dairy or optional. For dinner you have your lean, your greens. The starch included and it has to be 80 cals or less and their is an optional item with dinner too. These optional items are less than 20 cals.
Hope That Helps!
I was thinking I might work on a cheat sheet. I will post it to my blog and here as well when I am done.
Here is the cheat sheet I made, I hope it helps someone. Its also on my blog and looks prettier as the copy/paste causes it to lose it format.
Breakfast:
1 Pudding, Shake or Smoothie AND
1 Hotcake, Cereal or Oatmeal AND
1 Optional or 1 Dairy (this is syrup for your pancakes or milk for your cereal.
AM Snack:
1 Pudding, Shake or Smoothie AND
1 Fruit
Lunch:
1 Lite Entrée or Soup AND
1 Snack Bar
PM Snack:
1 Pudding, Shake or Smoothie
Dinner:
1 Protein (4oz lean) AND
2 Vegetables (1 cup each, and there is a lot to choose from!) AND
1 Starch (hello potato!) AND
1 Optional ( you can choose to use or not)
Dessert:
1 Chocolate Cake, Cheesecake, Pudding, Hot Drink or Fruit Drink (program food, of course)
1000-1200 Total Calories
For the Wonderslim ALL Supplements
Breakfast = WS smoothie or pudding shake AND WS pancakes OR oatmeal OR crispy bar
Lunch = WS entree AND WS protein bar
Snack = WS snack AND WS pudding shake
Dinner = WS entree AND WS pudding shake
Snack = WS dessert
1000-1200 Total Calories
Food Selection and Shopping Guide Cheat Sheet (Wonderslim) w/Medifast references.
Fruit
1 fruit serving is 60 cals or less.
Apple, small (4oz), Applesauce (1/2c), Apricots, fresh(5oz), Banana, small (4oz), Blackberries (3/4c), Cherries or Grapes(3oz), Grapefruit (1/2), Melon (1c), Orange, small(6oz), Peach, med.(4oz), Pear, small (4oz), Pineapple (3/4c), Plum, 2 small (5oz), Prunes, dried (3), Raspberries (1c), Strawberries (1 1/4c), Tangerine (8oz)
Dairy/Milk (ONLY the Wonderslim Plan Allows This. Not New Lifestyle or Medifast)
1 serving is 50 cals or less.
4oz skim milk, 4oz yogurt – nonfat fruit flavor, 3oz plain yogurt-fat free
Vegetables
One serving is 1c raw or 1/2c cooked, 25 calories or less
TWO Servings Allowed (Medifast allows for 3 servings, New Lifestysle is 2 servings, but does not allow peas, potatoes, carrots, corn or beets)
Asparagus, Beans, Beets, Broccoli, Brussels Sprouts, Cabbage, Carrots, Cauliflower, Celery, Cucumber, Eggplant, Greens, Lettuce, Mushrooms, Okra, Onions, Pea Pods, Peppers, Radishes, Scallions, Spinach, Sprouts, Summer Squash, Tomato, Turnips, Watercress and Zucchini.
Starch
1 serving is 80 cals or less. (ONLY Wonderslim Allows This.)
1/2c whole grain cereal (1/2c), Diet Bread (2slices), Whole Wheat Bread (1slice), ½ Bagel (1oz), ½ English Muffin, 1 Low Fat Waffle, ½ Pita Bread (6in), Roll (1oz), ½ oz Low Fat Crackers, 3/4oz Pretzeles, Air Popped Popcorn (3cups), Rice Cakes (2) 4in diameter, Pasta-cooked(1/3c), Brown Rice-cooked (1/3c), Corn or Peas, frozen (1/2c), Potato or Yam –small (3oz) baked or mashed.
Protein
1 serving is 140 cals or less and less than 5g of fat (about 4oz, for Medifast users the limit is 7oz for very lean)
Very Lean
4oz Turkey (white meat no skin), 4oz Chicken (white meat skin), 4oz Fish(cod flounder, trout, halibut, tuna in water), 4oz Shellfish (clams scallops crab lobster shrimp), 4oz cheese (fat free), 8oz Cottage Cheese (fat free or 1% nonfat lowfat), 8oz Egg Substitute (egg beaters), 8 Egg Whites (or 8oz liquid egg whites)
Lean
1 serving is 170 calories or less and less than 9 grams of fat (Medifast allows 6oz)
3oz Beef (sirloin flank steak tenderloin roast or round), 3oz Veal (chop or roast), 3oz Pork (center chop tenderloin or lean ham), 3oz Seafood ( salmon or catfish), 3oz Cheese (low fat less than 3g fat per oz), 3oz Deli Meat (low fat or less than 3g fat per oz), 3 Eggs (medium and there is a limit of 3 eggs per week)
Not So Lean
Less than 5oz of the not so lean item.
Optional
1 serving is less than 20 cals per.
Nonfat Cream Cheese (1tbsp), Nonfat Margarine (4tbsp), Reduced Fat Margarine (1tsp), Nonfat Sour Cream (1tbsp), Nonfat Salad Dressing (2tbsp), Salsa (1/2c), Taco Sauce (1tbsp), Catsup (1tbsp), Sugar Free Syrup (2tbsp), Low Sugar Jelly or Jam (2tsp), Artificial Sweetener (1 packet)
Beverages
Non Caloric!
Spring Water (with or without flavor or carbonation), Bouillon (low sodium), Sugar Free Drink Mixes, Club Soda, Diet Soda, Black Coffee, Tea, Herbal Tea
Healthy Fats
This is in the Medifast materials.
1tsp olive oil or 5-10 olives
Condiments
This is in the Medifast materials.
No more than 3 a day.
1/2tsp herbs, spices, catsup, BBQ sauce, cocktail sauce
1tbsp mustard, salsa, soy sauce, fresh herbs, lemon or lime juice, balsamic vinegar, soymilk, chopped onion
2tbsp sugar free syrup
1 packet Splenda
3tbsp Hot Sauce, red/white/cider vinegar
Medifast Also Allows:
Optional Snacks:
3 celery stalks
2 fruit sugar free popsicle
1/2c sugar free jello
3p sugar free gum or mints
2 dill pickle spears
One per day.