Today I switched things up a bit. I ate 1/2 my dinner protein (meat) with my lunch, then the other half at dinner. It was strange because before I ate lunch, I had tons of energy. Then afterwards, I was so tired. I wonder if I shouldn't do this again. Has anyone else experienced this?

In my opinion you can't do the diet with 3 milk or yogurt servings per day. I don't believe you would be able to stay in ketosis, and that's the main basis of the diet. Even the alternate plan has only 1 serving of milk or yogurt per day along with a grain serving and a fruit serving. As far as the diet's being considered a high-protein diet, Dr. Tran says it is an adequate-protein diet, not a high-protein diet. There are diets out there that contain much higher amounts of protein. If you do as your endocrinologist says, you will be on a low-calorie, low-fat diet, not a low-carb, low-fat diet. You could still lose weight, but not at an Ideal Protein rate. Plus your pancreas is not going to be repaired without being on the full program. Even if you lose all the weight you desire, it will be harder to keep it off. I like Linden's idea of using flavorless whey protein isolate in place of the packets and varying the taste by adding different extracts and/or flavorings. You might still be able to use Stevia as it's not an artificial sweetener. In the end, it's entirely your decision. You have to consider how much you trust your doctor versus how much you believe in the program.


It can knock you out of ketosis, resulting in muscle loss rather than fat loss.

Did you also have a protein packet at lunch? If not, you didn't have enough protein for the day.

Good Evening, I hope everyone had a good day. I spent some time today going though clothes (you know why). I never thought it would be so much fun to get rid of clothes.

I started replying hours ago. Stick with it. Cross back from 200. That is huge goal for me. Get back into the ones. You are close.

Hi Coastal crafter--I am not as wise as many of the folks on this forum regarding the IP diet...but I am a nurse practitioner, so I can speak to the reaction of many doctors to this (and other) diets. Doctors are trained to be skeptical of anything that is not "mainstream" medicine (at least in the United States). Now, that isn't all bad, but it does blind them sometimes to new ideas that are actually good and helpful. I don't know your physician; you know him or her better than we do. But I would hate to see you give up this diet unnecessarily. Do you have another physician in the area you trust for another opinion? I'm not criticizing this doctor specifically. This is just the way many docs are. Best of luck as you seek answers that are best for you.

Just a quick post before my laptop loses battery! I did an "unofficial" weigh-in today. I travel for work, plus next week DH and I will go on vacation, so my first official weigh-in will be 4 weeks from when I started IP!! But I am happy to report I am 5 # down!! Probably would be a bit better, but the Big C has been a problem....but I am working on it. I am very encouraged!

Yeah! It's official.....got my ticker! Wooohoooo! Sorry, lame post, but I just had to share!

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I went to my endocrinologist today. I brought her information on the IP diet, we discussed it at length, and my personal health issues. She did say high protein diets cause kidney stones, and she was concerned because I have had them before..She also is concerned with extra headaches due to artificial sweetners in IP products....
She wants me to have 2 glasses of skim milk and 1 cup lowfat yogurt daily with 1200 mg Calcium. and multi vitamin, and vit D. She also wants me to stop phase 1 after 4 more months and then go thru the rest of the phases. She ordered bloodwork.She will call me with results. Now I see her again in March.

So now I have to ask,you experienced IPers- will these dairy additions throw off the whole diet? Will I continue to lose weight even at a slower rate??? OR should I just phase off IP all together, if I am changing Dr Tien's diet..??[/QUOTE]

I've had kidney stones once (that was enough) and not had any reoccurred with low carb high protein diet (Atkins and IP) I agree wtih other NPin that Western Medicine doesn't know it all, and most physicains did not have much nutrition in thier training. Get the labs, see what is going on and then decide what you want to do - strict IP, alternative IP or drop it all together. The idea of a second opinion isn't a bad one.
My IP program is actually through my medical provider's office. I see the PA, (he's on the diet too), and he's monitoring my labs and my health. If you want to talk about NSV's. Here's some great accomplishments towards a more healthy me: My A1c was down from 9.2 to 6.2 in the first 10 weeks on the diet. My cholesterol dropped to 172, my triglycerides dropped 100 points from 230 to 130 and my LDL dropped from 161 to 112. My HDL went down, but I'm told that happens on the program and it goes back up when you get into maintenance. I dropped the Byetta I was on and am only on 1/2 of a tablet of Glyburide at night. I'm off Prilosec completely - no acid reflux at all. I know any weight loss probably would have helped all these, but IP helped me got moving fast which I needed for my psychological health.
You aren't my patient, so you have to consider that I don't know all your medical history, haven't examined you, so the advice is worth what it cost - I wish you well in deciding what to do. It can be hard
Jean

I've done it off and on since i started. Mostly on -- I very rarely have restricted items or veggies. Carla's right -- it IS boring, but it works!

ChelseaKate -- I know a few others have said something similar, but sometimes it helps to hear it from more than one person. YOU'VE HAD AMAZING WEIGHT LOSS! Be happy with 3.5 pounds. I know the ads all say 3 pounds is the least you'll lose...but its not. It's an average -- I've averaged 3.26 pounds a week, but there were many weeks of 0 -- and some weeks of more -- to make that up. You're doing great.

Take some sage advice from someone who's been on the plan for 5 months...toss the Ice Cream! Ice cream was my weakness, and honestly ... I swear the ice cream was taunting me whenever I'd open the freezer to get ice for my water. My DH objected for a moment, then I told him to go and get single serve at Baskin Robbins if he was desperate.

I am not sure this whole buying a scale thing was for me -- it's nothing but up...of course, TOM and Big C could explain that.

JC

My doctor, who also supervises my IP diet, went to Israel last summer. He saw stevia plants growing wild while there and chewed their leaves. It was from his experience that I first tried stevia, even before getting on the diet. I like it MUCH more than splenda or any other artificial sweetner I have tried.

Umm. I do know a little something about stevia. My shaker of "Improved Stevia, Supreme Naturally Sweet Stevia" contains stevia and xylitrol, neither of which concerns me much, but CC can't seem to tolerate anything processed, so I was trying to be extra careful if her case.

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I was counting the cukes as part of my 2 cups of veggies per day but I was told that the cukes, lettuce and celery are part of my unlimited. She said I need the other veggies that are allowed in phase one for the carbs to make our brains function properly