Trish, thank you for posting info about the No Flour, No Sugar diet. I had seen that link on my own, but didn't post the info earlier, because that same site got some key info on the Suzanne Somers diet very wrong. For example it said it was very low calorie. Nothing could be further from the truth. One can eat a lot on the SS diet. That's why I like it! That, and the cheese!
Anyways, since you have approved the info, I made and attached a synopsis of NFNS to our starter post for easy reference.
As a side note, just want to mention that while I really believe in the value of touchy-feely-pat-on-the-back type of support, it is not something I personally do well in writing. Hence, on a message board I typically leave that for those much better at it than I, and instead do other types of support (organization, providing information, etc.) I hope that's okay with you guys.
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Originally Posted by skittlescda
I definitely will stay on the IP plan but not be having the 3 packs per day and will go off all vitamins and just back on the ones I was taking before I started IP (they didn't bother my digestive system).
Trish
Trish, they
say we're supposed to be having those 3 IP packs per day until we reach Phase 2, at which time we replace our lunchtime pack with real food. However, I'm not 100% convinced we need to wait until Phase 2 to have a real-food lunch meal, in order to keep losing weight on this diet. I have eaten real food the whole way through, and I'm doing well.
Dr. Tran Tien says that the reason we eat a food packet ("protein substitute") instead of real food is because proteins "do not occur in an isolated state". He says:
"Since there is no ideal protein, 'ideal' meaning a pure (no fats and carbohydrates) and complete protein containing all essential amino acids, the solution is to use an ideally reconstituted protein. That's why the protein diet is based on protein powder substitutes that are mixed with water."
pg 65Okay. That make sense to me --- UNTIL we see that Ideal Protein sells packets with fat and especially carbs. Take a look at the Ideal Protein nutritional fact sheet attached. We see products with 4, 5, 8, 11, 12
net carbs. (That's not even including the once-a-week spaghetti and stew which are over 15 net carbs.) I did buy some of the soup, because they do have high quality proteins, with very low fat and carbs. But I really don't see how the rest of this IP stuff, which are definitely not "pure" proteins according to Dr. Tran Tien's specification, meets the reasoning for why we should eat food packets on Phase 1 instead of food.
Secondly, we are supposed to eat 4 cups of low carb / low glycemic vegetables per day on this plan. While the veggies are low in carbs, they still do have carbs. When we eat a meal, what's the difference whether we get a small amount of carbs from a low glycemic vegetable or from a protein?
Perhaps there are differences that I am not aware of, and real reasons to stick mainly to the packets for Phase 1. I would be interested in hearing about them if there are. But I think most likely if we eat real food that is high protein (and high quality), low carb, low glycemic index, and low fat, we will do very well on this diet. And it certainly is much more pleasant to eat real food!
Regarding dropping some of the supplements, Trish, that concerns me a little. We are going to need higher amounts of some things than is contained in normal supplements. Potassium, for example. Are you getting enough of everything?
I too agree that it is important to be in good condition before your surgery. Have you considered taking a couple of weeks before to eat balanced?