I started out 5 years ago doing the SlimFast plan - it worked for me and I lost nearly 70 lbs. The weight is still off but I have another 50 lbs to lose so have joined Herbal Magic to get the last of the weight off. I was 234 when I decided to join Herbal Magic and am now down to 217.5 -- I know with their help - and the help of some good buddies here - I will reach my goal of 170 lbs.