Well I think I am back in the saddle again and without too much damage to myself either. I wound up giving Logan a bath in the sink and although he wasn't too sure about it and a bit nervous, there was no freak-out which is what I wanted to avoid. Tomorrow is grocery day and I am doing a happy dance here. This will be the first time with all 3 little ones so let's see how it goes. The girls are used to it, it is Logan I am not too sure about. There will be so much for him to see, I am sure he will be fine. I have got to get a bigger car though. I can't really legally drive with all the kids. I don't go huge distances but I still don't like it. I am kind of dreading thanksgiving and I am sure mostly because it is just me and the kids. Mom and Dad won't even be in town. If the other side of the girls family wasn't so far away, I would take the kids but it is like an hour away plus a ferry ride. Plus when you are dealing with naptimes ect, it is a pain. Well I got two out of three sleeping so I am going to try and get some housework done here. I never know when the caseworker is going to show up so I keep the house looking like I am about to have company over. Makes me tired LOL
Melissa

Misty, I have a friend who would like one of the pilates DVDs if you have one to send her. She is thin woman but wants to tone up and get lean and curvy, so maybe you know which one she would need?? Let Melissa get the first pick, she deserves them most of all. I'll give you my address in private email if you have one I can give to her.

Melissa you are so inspiring. I guess not hearing anything yet on Logan is good news? Have you heard from your daughter at all, or do you have any clue when she goes back to court or anything? You are ten times as brave and strong as I am. God knew what he was doing when he sent them babies your way. It's hard, I wish there were something I could do other than sit all the way across the country and cheer you on.

Theresa

I haven't heard anything from cps and I take no news is good news. Kate isn't allowed to come over or call here until she is cleared to do so by cps. Casworker said if she shows up I am supposed to call 911. I am just hoping she listens and it doesn't come to that. I would hate it so bad. Last I heard she was being released from jail but I don't know if that is the end of it or she will have to go back. All I knew is that I was not going to bail her out even if I had had the money to do it. Just knowing you guys are there and let me vent or cry is alot-believe me! I don't get out much at all and have hardly any "grown-up" conversation so this is kind of a real sanity line for me. The little ones really are great kids but they are kids LOL. I am going to attempt church on sunday-we will see how it goes. Josh will be with dennis and I can use the stroller to get two of them in and Odessa is pretty darn good about holding my hand. I haven't been in months between Josh's fits and the kids having one thing after another. I miss it alot. I always have been pretty stubborn and determined even from a young age so that must be what is getting me through. I will fight like crazy to keep Logan here forever. Sending him back would be awful for him and his life. He is really starting to jabber, blow me rasberries and he inhales and exhales really fast when he gets excited. It is just so darn cute.
melissa

Hi all!
Sorry I haven't checked in lately, just been busy and not on plan eating wise at all... have to admit it... I am really falling off the plan and am ashamed to check in
I am exercising regularly, so I think that is what is keeping me from gaining too much!
I just can't stop eating!! It's not just me either, everyone at work is the same way???

Melissa, I am glad to hear that Logan is doing so well - You are an amazing woman!
Ice - your right you don't need him!!!!!!
I also hope that LauraB is okay those riots sound terrible and last I heard they were spreading around France?
Congrats to everyone else who have gotten into smaller pants, been excersing reguarly and staying on plan !
I hope to be among you all soon!

Melissa- you are brave- I can handle all kinds of major crisis but when it comes to organizing kids I am lost. (that's why I have my hubby he is very organized when it comes to kids.) Thanksgiving may not be bad- you'd be with the kids- watch the parade and play some games. They may be little but you can still play with them.

I hate the jump rope -repeat : I hate the jump rope .....I know keep going and I'll get better. and maybe I'll sorta like the jump rope ..maybe one day

Theresa- I am wondering now about the dance videos cause now they sound interesting--- but I don't know....maybe next year.

WHOO HOO Ice way to go girl- You don't need him and keep strong.

Hey Suzette I never thought about Laura Being in France with all the riots. I hope she is ok and everything is good for her trip.

If anyone is interested I have a beginners Pilates that teaches you all the moves and a 20 minute work out and an upper body workout from the firm. I'll gladly send them to anyone- They are videos tho - But if you want more info let me know and I'll send them if ya want them. I just can't get into the pilates.

Still trying- Don't you be ashamed- we all have our set backs and hungry days ( see below) you can do this we shouldn't beat ourselves up if we don't eat OP all the time. this is not a quick fix but a lifestyle change and we can't always be perfect..and hey you are exercising that's awesome! check back in and chat- for or to help you keep going!

Hey to everyone else

I am having a hungry two days- It's TOM and i just want to eat. I haven't eaten bad - no junk food but i ate 2 servings of cereal today and an extra helping of chicken tonight -I just have the munchies i guess. But i haven't eated candy or junk so maybe it'll be ok. I am feeling icky too so exercise is NOT on my schedule. I don't care if they say exercise helps during TOM..As Scarlett says "I'll think about it tomorrow" But boy I do want chocolate - I told hubby give me chocolate and no one gets hurt.. he just laughed at me and said calories.. calories.. calories....( I hate it when he's right )
I am reading The books make the connection and body makeover by the guy who helped Oprah - He makes a lot of sense and i can get some tips from his books.

Have a good night all
Sandi

I don't know if I'm feeling icky because I had beans for supper, or because I'm so tired I could fall over and not get up for a week, or because I feel like a human snot rag and really need some "me" time without the kids...or what, but I feel really, really icky Hubby keeps teasing and saying I'm pregnant, but i keep telling him to shut up because every time he says I have something...I DO! When I was pregnant with my son, he made a comment on he way to the doctor's office that I felt so bad because I was dying of cancer, and I laughed...well, ten minutes later doc told me that they found some cells or something that might be CANCER! They turned out to be nothing, but it was weird that it happened right after hubby said that. SO, I am telling him to shut up because I dont want to have anymore kids...EVER.

OKay, so I am thinking about getting myself fixed so this isn't a worry anymore, and because having another would seriously wreck my life, and I am stressed out with what I have now and cannot handle another. I'm staring to feel normal again, like ME again, I don't want another one!! My mom is saying I shouldn't because I'm only 28 and I don't know what i'll want in the future, and my mind can change She also says that men lose interest in women once they are not fertile anymore Hubby doesn't want anymore either, so I don't see how he'd care, but she says it's nature or something. What do you all think?????

Theresa, feeling miserable tonight

Melissa, I'll be glad to send you the beginner DVD, then if you want the others after trying it, just say so. I can't do anything that involves lying on the floor because of my knees. That's why I never got into the DVDs very well. If you find you don't like it, just pass it on to someone else. PM me with your info and I'll try to get it off this week. Theresa, I really don't know which DVD would be best as most of them have never even been opened. I'll be glad to send which ever one you choose. Anyone interested just PM me.

Suzette

Pray for me guys. Today is the first day I am taking all 3 little ones grocery shopping and I am a little nervous about it. I am getting lots of OP stuff today so I can get busy getting rid of the rest of this weight. Colored my hair last night too-the gray is gone! Chocolate Cherry is the color and I figured anything named after one of my favorite old junkies couldn't stear me wrong and I was happy how it turned out. First time I did it all by myself. Now I just need to get in and get some of this hair chopped off so it can be short and sassy again. Since I got the girls year and a half ago, I just haven't had the money or childcare to do my hair. I love Joy but she takes a really long time getting the job done. Well I better wake up Amanda and finish dressing the other two so I can get out of here and back close to lunch time. They are all very particular about meal times around here whether they suffer from autism or not.
Melissa

Good luck, Melissa, though I know you'll do great. EVen if the little ones act up, you will handle it with patience and skill. You are incredible, because i took Ty to the grocery store this AM with me and was about to pull all the hair out of my head!

I discovered this AM that I am now able to lean from Tyler's side of the Exploer over to Allie's seat enough to buckle her in without cutting myself in half! I could never do that before with my big tummy, at least not without puking up breakfast! But I did it comfortably today and was so proud of myself. The little things are the biggest surprises, aren't they?

I tried the SBD wrap kits, and they are really good though not worth almost $4 each. I can buy some WW tortillas and make them myself cheaper. But, it did give me some good ideas so it was worth a one time purchase. I think I'll make up some chicken in the style they used and put it in the fridge so I can make them quick. I wonder how long cooked chicken lasts in the fridge? Can I freeze cooked chicken? I am such a loss in the kitchen sometimes.

Theresa

it's lunchtime i want pizza and chips oooH Nachos with extra sour cream YUM and chocolate cake and a coke.
But I guess i will settle for my tuna salad and apple with a side of bottled water.
Melissa- the hair color sounds great..good luck at the store. I am like theresa- can't takes kids as i lose my train of thought and mine are 7, 12, 21 and then there's hubby.. He's NOT allowed to go with me.
Theresa --Cooked chicken usually lasts 2-3 days in the fridge and I have frozen cooked chicken - I don't keep it longer than a month or it gets icky tasting (to me anyway)- I take leftover chicken and put it in small bags and store it in the freezer. and info on your other question-i had my tubes done after my last one and of course i was ALOT older than you (35) when i had her - she was not planned -she was a what did you say ?? I'm WHAT??
I'll let out a secret here- my hubby is 8 years younger than me and he doesn't seem to care that it's done- if you know what I mean.. in fact it made things alot easier on us not worrying about Birth control. But again you are a lot younger than me so..
Well lunch is over so I'll check back later. Have a good afternoon.

welcome to the group malia! woohoo, melra is back! yay! theresa, those striptease workouts sound like so much fun. i wish i had those. i have been wanting to try strip workouts for awhile, ever since they came out with them. my best friend used to be a stripper and she was in great shape then. 8 hours dancing in stilettos will do that
good luck shopping melissa. congrats on getting the stuff for logan.
camping was fun. i was glad i bought the 50 calorie hotdogs because at least that made up for the smores. and i really did well at rachel's birthday dinner with her family. chicken breast sandwich with no bread and just tons of veggies done up like salad and an ever so tiny piece of cake. no one in her family recognized me! rachel had to tell them who i was. didn't do so well at the party later. at least the beer was light is all i can say about that. i also caved on tuesday and had cheesecake when we went to the pastor's house for dinner so i am not looking forward to the scale today. but i will go to the gym!
i don't know if this is good or bad, but i was really grossed out yesterday when i was trying on my new bra. i was bent over and this loose skin on my stomach made this disgusting wrinkled pouch. i really want to figure out how to get rid of that. gross.

Hey, Cadwell! Glad you made it home safe and that you had a good time...and that they didn't recognize you, bet that felt great! Don't be too hard on yourself over the treats, you did your best. These vacation things aren't every day, so I think you just do your best and then move on, get back OP with every day life.

Sandi, I know how you feel about wanting to eat everything...did you stick with your tuna and apple? Thanks for all the info and tips as well. I am just worrying over the getting fixed thing now because 2 of my 4 sisters have popped up pregnant again, and last time we all did that together. It's even gotten hubby worrying over it, we seriously don't want another one. He will not get fixed, says he wouldn't feel "right" with that gone...I told him it's not like they're whacking the whole thing off MEN!

Okay...I'm glad we're all ladies here, why do I keep getting on these subjects?

Melissa, been thinking about you...how did it go?

I just did the hip hop striptease, which isn't a strip tease but a hip hop dance thing. I had to keep rewinding back over the first move, couldn't get it for like 10 tries I made it all the way through, with rewinding constantly, but still in the end I missed half the moves with music. I can do it okay in slow motion just counting out each step, but when the music starts and it's faster I can only get less than halfway through then I'm lost and just doing my own thing. It's okay, I'll keep trying. It is a GREAT workout though...is it possible to sweat yourself to death? I inhaled almost all my water for the day during that 45 minutes, so that's good I guess.

Theresa

Well we made it! Just got tricky toward the end because it was lunchtime and Amanda must eat at lunchtime! I did have to stop a couple of times and give Logan some bottle but all in all other than being like totally exhausted, it went pretty darn well and of course I was stopped I don't know how many times so people could look at the kids. I am biased but I think they are just adorable. I get people who look at me with that look of "don't you know what causes that????" Little do they know I have been celebate for like 5 years now lol.

And no they don't cut the whole thing off either for vasectomy. I made Dennis get one after Joshua cause he just about did me in. I was told not to have kids because of my bones and the severe scoliosis and wouldn't you know it-I had 2 just to prove my point. It made things way more spontanious afterward cause no one has to worry about any booboos and Dennis liked it cause I was in the mood way more often. It doesn't affect anything and he would be right as rain in just a few days. My son in law did it too after amanda and he even says it is a load off his mind-he can never be called for paternity.

Well I need to finish putting groceries away and Mena is about ready for her nap too.
Melissa

yep i stuck with my FF mayo and tuna salad and apple.NOT want i wanted but I needed to behave myself.

Well Jocie was sick tuesday night and Wednesday - NOW my hubby ( who never gets sick) is sick with the same thing. Puking all over -upset tummies and just sick. I had it weeks ago- so Hopefully i will escape this one. But I am tired running back and forth for everyone.. HA! Burning off more calories.

well dinner for the kids was oven fires and chicken and of course I had to eat some fries... BUT they were 16 fries to a serving NO FAT and only 130 calories so not too bad for a splurge. and then I went to the store for gatorade for hubby and they had Edy's on sale buy 1 get 1 and I grabbed him sherbert in case he could eat and then I thought why waste a B1G1?? So I splurged and got a think of FF/SF chocolate. (it was either that or the candy bars that were buy1 get 3 free) so I came home and figured out it would be 100 calories for a 1/2 cup Ice cream, 30 cals for the SF syrup, 15 cals for the coolwhip free and about 40 cals to add some banana so for 200 cals I can have a yummy treat cause if i didn't I'd be binging right now. I am in that kinda mood. look out house you are gonna get clean
I still have 400 cals left after dinner and thats hitting 1600 so if i blow 200 on a treat i still have 200 I won't eat.. and i will do 15 minutes extra of bike riding today and tomorrow..
Men are so ridiculous when it comes to their "manhood" I guess guys think they are gonna be chopped off like a dog or something..I asked my hubby tonight if he was less attracted to me cause I got tied and he said HUH?? Un NO- and told me that was a silly question- I told him i was getting a man's point of view.
Theresa I have to tell you I was scheduled for a tubal and 3 weeks before my appt. i got really sick and had to go to the ER and they said well we can't give you this med. or do xrays cause you are PG and I went WHAT
so we had to cancel that appt.
Melissa on your shopping today and welcome back candace! I am so glad your trip was fun. Theresa for keeping up and really trying with the videos- that is awesome that you keep rewinding and doing it right!
well i have dishes and at least 1 load of laundry for tonight so have a great night all

I knew you'd be fine Melissa! The baby may have slowed ya down with the bottle but come on...you know he's worth it!

Sandi, I had to have something for a treat tonight as well, or I knew I was going to binge as well. I had vanilla FF yogurt with tropical fruit cocktail. It was yummy and on plan so I am content with myself.

I asked my mom tonight where she got that men aren't attracted to women who have been fixed, and she said that someone told her that after my dad left her! I told her I don't believe it, and I seriously doubt that's the reason he left her...he abandoned us ALL, not just her, and I doubt that is the reason. Why would someone say that to her??? I'm wondering now who it was, but she won't say. GRRR.

Theresa