I'm going to try to post a pic of Bogart...I haven't tried this before, so here goes: OK, it worked. Bogart is a weimaraner, 10 months old. The black and white dog is Dino, our almost 10 year old retired racing greyhound.

SkinnyDog - You DO have two skinny dogs. I love retired grey's they are so gentle and grateful. How are the two getting along? TOO CUTE!

The older dog tolerates the young pup. The older grey is a very passive dog. He even lets the puppy lay down on his bed with him. The puppy is all puppy, but settles down much better than I thought he would. He isn't an alpha dog either, he is stubborn, but not aggressive in the least---except to squirrels and birds, he has brought us a few prizes from the yard. He stalks them. We don't encourage it, but understand it is his nature. Our new house has zero mature trees, so I think his hunting days will be over the end of this month.

Cute dogs! I <3 Weimers.

Question at hand. Watermelon. Yes? No? I <3 <3 <3 watermelon and it's a perfect day for it.....and we just happen to have one.

hi ladies!
good to see you all again!
i have been off board for a while struggling w/health issues but things are looking up and i need to refocus-which means off to p1 for me! sun is just setting and i am enjoying the end of my work day. *ah!*
cu tomorrow!

Janda glad to hear you are doing better

Zeff not to sure about watermelon - have you checked the acceptable list as I know Ruth put the updated on last week

yeah....it doesn't say anything...or maybe I missed it? I don't see anything about it in the P2 list either.

Should I assume it's like corn and verboten forever and ever?

hi zeffryn, just checked the new book and it says foods to enjoy rarely or avoid on phase 2 : watermelon

honeydew melon is ok, tho

grr. I loathe honeydew.

I just checked the glycemic index of watermelon. It's HIGH! Good thing DS loves it.

But...watermelon has a low glycemic load, only a 4.
I still say, there is not a fruit out there that is responsible for my being fat.
Fruit is healthy. Don't be afraid of enjoying watermelon.
Just like carrots were originally forbidden veggies on SBD, the glycemic load of carrots is low, therefore they have now become acceptable. I think maybe someday the fruit restrictions will be lifted.

Aren't carrots only acceptable on P2?


I'm not sure where you're getting your information from, but my book here and many websites on the net say that watermelon has a REALLY high glycemic index. I found an exact number of 72.
http://www.carbs-information.com/gly...ermelon-gi.htm

Carrots are pretty low though, although the sweetness of them causes me to crave. I tend to avoid them, along with other sweet vegetables - sweet potatoes, particularly. Raw carrots only have a glycemic index of 47.

I am referring to glycemic load, not index. When you research glycemic values you should look at both glycemic index AND glycemic load. I would recommend anyone who looks beyond the SBD book to the science behind SBD food choices to research both glycemic index and glycemic load. They go hand in hand. And, yes carrots are phase 2, as are fruits...therefore anyone eating fruits would be phase 2.
Originally carrots were not allowed...I don't think they were allowed in phase 2 either.

Glycemic index is not a perfect indicator due to the fact that, although it tells a valuable story, it doesn’t take the whole nutritional picture into account. Primarily GI is based on the effect of a fixed portion of carbohydrate on blood sugar but fails to take into account the real life question of “how much can I eat?” Glycemic load is more complicated to understand but it looks at the effects on blood sugar taking volume into account.

A good example is a 100g piece of watermelon, it has a high glycemic index (GI: 72) because it is broken down very quickly however as it is not very dense and contains a lot of water, the glycemic load is relatively low (GL : 3.6). I prefer GL as a nutritional indicator over the GI although part of the equation for GL includes that of the GI.
disclaimer: these are not my own words, they are from one of many quotes attempting to explain GI & GL
Google glycemic load for more info. Try to read more than one source and try to read some sources that are credible, not just a blog or someone's individual web page.

I just researched the glycemic load information. Interesting. Basically it defines that small portion of a food with a high glycemic level will affect the blood sugar in the same way that a normal to large portion of a food with a low glycemic level.

Watermelon, besides being high in lycopene, is relatively low in nutritional value otherwise. As much as I like it, I can definitely go without it all the time because it does cause me to spike and crash. Maintaining an even blood sugar level has done wonders for my mental stability ... and my marriage

With that information, you must also remember that it says a small amount of a high GI food is the same as a normal/large amount of a low GI food. Just because watermelon has a low GL, doesn't mean that we can eat as much as we want just because it isn't as high as say, white bread. It might not be high calorie wise, but it is high on the glycemic level, and the more that you eat, the more it will affect the blood sugar.