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Originally Posted by DBCtulip
I am new to IP: list 8 lbs the first week and just had my weigh in today and lost another 6, so 14 in the first two weeks. Sounds great but when I looked at my print out in detail, I've list 11 of it as muscle. Is this typical in the first few weeks? Muscle is really important to me and I planned on doing some serious training after I got the fat off (I have a 4 month old so I haven't worked out hard in a while). My coach mentioned I'm now in fat burn mode so I get to start the bars. Does this mean the pounds will now start to be fat?? A little freaked out
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Originally Posted by canadjineh
The lean mass you lose (if you are going by the gadget used in the clinics to measure it) isn't necessarily muscle. It is anything in your body that is NOT fat. That means bone, organs, nerves, contents of your colon at that moment, etc. Don't get focused on that machine as they are notoriously unreliable. Are you losing inches, and/or improving your blood sugars & lipids? Remember at first you are depleting the glycogen from your muscles and the accompanying water that is held with it. THEN, you get to start the fat burning mode. Hang in there. Not all coaches are as well trained as some.
Liana
I would concur. That gadget and calculation are very unreliable. Best measure if find a consistent method of measuring and just stay with it. Mine was a belt I wear to this day.
The IP gimick machine tells me I am chronically dehydrated. I go to great lengths to get my water in. Years ago I got the precision nutrition program from dr. John Berardi and they recommended calipers and using the same person because it is the most consistent measure.
http://www.precisionnutrition.com/me...entGuide-F.pdf Unless you have access to dexa scan you are ballpark at best.
But it is not impossible to lose muscle on IP. Depending on your body. It isn't a muscle sparring as they give pretense too because you are in massive calorie deficit (planned metabolic starvation essentially). That fact is the largest reason they say no working out is advertising. It is far easier to modify an input (what you eat) versus and a new input (working out) into a persons lifestyle. You can hurt your progress by taking in too much protein or working in wrong modalities while in IP.
Some real recent data coming out that for muscle growth you only need about .8 grams per pound of body weight. They used to say 1 to 1.5 grams per lb of lean body mass to gain muscle. New data is showing that really more than the case and many athletes are chronically over consuming protein.
I have to look up the post related to the podcast for referencing but Marks Daily Apple mentioned that even in ketosis your body only depletes about 20% of the glycogen out of the muscle while in ketosis. The body can create something like 140 grams of glycogen a day while in dietary ketosis.
Depending on your previous capacity and knowledge you can train pretty hard IMO. Especially if you work Power and strength. Not metabolic conditioning or LDC (long duration cardio). Plus growing muscle increases RMBR. Did you see the recent article out claiming being fat isn't the worst information about the modern human condition, it is the lack of muscle mass?