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bigdog 11-27-2011 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by nwcgina (Post 4120961)
I meant to bring this up, too. BIA is really skewed by hydration status and if you are using the one you stand on, it only measures the lower half of your body (so if you had a change in your upper body that is different than lower body, it can show changes...maybe you lost muscle in your legs, but maintained or gained in the arms, that wouldn't show). They have handheld ones as well, but those have the same problems. Even at the same hydration status, there is a margin of error with the BIA.

YNapier has lost over 40 lbs which is incredible!! i just hate when some of the counselors make us feel bad...it bothers me more when it's other people this happens to...sounds like a misreading and a way for the pushy counselor to sell more HNSs...

Thanks for all this information, Gina, i cut and pasted it to keep in my metabolic folder. what i'm working toward is gaining more muscle so i'll be burning calories at a resting state - LOL! in a perfect world!

ynapier 11-28-2011 09:49 AM

Bigdog - I have actually lost just over 30 pounds.

Thanks for all the encourgement. I did eat before I went this time and normally do not. I also had additional water before I went. I have questioned the accuracy of the body comp measurements since you are just standing on metal plates. I'm doing lunges, squats, pushups and dips in addition to my cardio. I have just started so it's not a lot of reps yet but I want to get up to 3 sets of 10 to 12 of each. I'm not there yet but I will get there.

Gina - Thanks for the great info. I am going to add it to my file on MRC stuff also.

bigdog 11-28-2011 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ynapier (Post 4121295)
Bigdog - I have actually lost just over 30 pounds.

Thanks for all the encourgement. I did eat before I went this time and normally do not. I also had additional water before I went. I have questioned the accuracy of the body comp measurements since you are just standing on metal plates. I'm doing lunges, squats, pushups and dips in addition to my cardio. I have just started so it's not a lot of reps yet but I want to get up to 3 sets of 10 to 12 of each. I'm not there yet but I will get there.

Gina - Thanks for the great info. I am going to add it to my file on MRC stuff also.

well, 32 lbs is incredible!!!! sorry can't subtract - still trying to get it together after all these days off for the holiday! i don't know if i could drink the water before weigh in - i've tested that on my own scale. weighed and then drank a couple glasses of water - it reflected like 2 lbs more... anyway, i'm sure when they do the test again it will come out normal. i just realized my weight watcher scale at home also has the metal strips on it and is supposed to show fat vs. muscle weight. i'll have to plug in my weight, etc and see what they reads....

Tamikl 11-28-2011 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nwcgina (Post 4120904)
Okay, so first I'll wear my academic hat (ignore if you like), then the practical side hat.

When you have a calorie deficit your body burns both excess fat and muscle to fuel itself. The idea behind a higher protein diet like this is that it is supposed to minimize the muscle loss (some research supports this) versus if you cut protein. Your body cannot make protein, it has to be ingested. Your body is fueled for energy by carbohydrates...which is why I would never try low carb diet until I saw this which totally makes sense physiologically...your body can't make protein from carbs, but it can make carbs (stored in your body in the muscle as glycogen) from fat and protein. It's not a very easy process...but that is why something like MRC works. Remember how the first few days on detox and start of the plans you had a lot of muscle fatigue, but then as time went on you had more energy? Your body got better at using fat and protein to convert it to carbs. Neat, huh?

A majority of our calories are burned through what is called resting metabolic rate. This is influenced by your age, gender, height, genetics...none of which we can do anything about. But it is also influenced by your lean body mass (muscle). So everything you can do to preserve it (or build it) will help you burn more calories at rest.

A couple other things research shows. 1. Women's success at weight loss is more influenced by their nutrition than exercise (partly because we lack the testosterone to build big muscles) and 2. When people exercise a lot then have a tendency to overeat...and it's really hard to burn 500 calories in a workout, but darn easy to overeat by that many.

Okay, so academic hat off now...I had always tried to outexercise my mediocre eating habits (they weren't horrible, but bad enough to keep me stuck at 183 after having been up to 220). So when I started this I knew I had to focus on the eating side...and have kept in my mind that until I hit maintenance or get closer to my goal, I am not going to try and build my exercise. I do, however, want to maintain my muscle (I don't want to be skinny fat) and maintain my cardio. I have been doing mainly body weight strength (in my opinion this is sufficient for most people doing weight loss to maintain muscle mass...push ups, squats, lunges, etc.) with some light weights or resistance bands. I do some yoga, some pilates, some walking...and last night after taking a month off I went for a run. I ran 2 miles and it felt so good. I kept telling myself "it feels so much better being 10 lbs lighter, can you imagine the next 25??" Again, I'm not going to build my running now, but when I get to my goal in the spring I am definitely training for a triathlon.

So, in short. Nutrition is first and most important (especially for women) and exercise is 2nd and should be an accessory...like a great necklace. Whatever works for you is best.

I hope I didn't step on toes or anything. I'm still working on what I academically know and what people are experiencing in the real world. Since I started focusing on nutrition...really focusing on it...I finally broke through where I had been stuck for 2 years.

PS-now having said that...I went off plan for the first time in a month...was out to eat and was being so good...then the waiter (one of my former students) brought us cheesecake. Oh yes, I had a couple bites and am going to go undo some of that naughtiness on the elliptical...it was just so nice of him...sigh...can't outwork a bad diet...have to remember that! :)

THANK YOU for taking the time to share all of this information!! Very informative...

camaswa 12-03-2011 10:48 AM

These posts have been so helpful! I have been concerned about muscle loss - I sorta knew what Gina says but didn't quite get it. Now I do! I went on a low calorie diet once through a hospital and ended up losing a lot of muscle. Why didn't they teach this?? Needless to say, I began gaining back immediately because my resting metabolism was lowered. So far on MRC I have not lost any muscle. And I have started seeing a trainer. I love the way strength work makes me look and feel. I see changes fast, even at my age. Btw, someone yesterday told me I look much younger now!!!

I am weighing in at the center this morning. On my scales I have lost .5 since thanksgiving. I hope I dont weigh as up on theirs. Considering the week I have had with all-day meetings, business dinners and no workouts, I think I have done great.

Edited after I got home: on their scales I lost a whole pound! That's 20 pounds now. I am SO anxious to see those 160s and my long lost friend: size 12.

nwcgina 12-03-2011 11:27 PM

Woo hoo! 20 lbs is amazing. And strength training is the best...good for you for hiring a trainer.

birdfeet 12-07-2011 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdog (Post 4120967)
YNapier has lost over 40 lbs which is incredible!! i just hate when some of the counselors make us feel bad...it bothers me more when it's other people this happens to...sounds like a misreading and a way for the pushy counselor to sell more HNSs...

Thanks for all this information, Gina, i cut and pasted it to keep in my metabolic folder. what i'm working toward is gaining more muscle so i'll be burning calories at a resting state - LOL! in a perfect world!

We had some of those and they no longer work for the company. They have to be more supportive to help the people with the weight loss,not to destroy what we have done.

birdfeet 12-07-2011 11:55 PM

I have never been one to do much exerciseing until now. My body won't let me do a whole lot but it is getting better at letting me walk more. I just need to figure out how to get myself into the exercise mode all the time,it helps when I walk more. So far have lost 56 LBS since June this year. Still have about 40 more to go. Reading what you girls have said to each other ha helped in also. Thanks everyone for being there and helping each other out.


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