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MindiV 11-12-2008 09:23 AM

Starting to worry...
 
I called an end to my weight loss at 160 pounds back in July. I started upping my calories slowly, but kept losing. At 150 I was still happy, not too thin...then I hit 145 and got stable. Or so I thought.

This week I'm weighing in at 138. My ribs are showing, and I'm too thin to be 5'9" with my body. I know for some people it's not too thin...but on me it certainly is. I've gone from 38D bra size to 32B-C...size 16/18 pants to 6/8. XL shirts to medium. It's time to stop.

Only it's not stopping. I'm working out 20-30 minutes a day (cardio), five days a week, and weight training moderately 3X a week. When I was TRYING to lose I was doing weights three times a week and 45 minutes of cardio five times a week. When I was losing I was consuming around 1,450 calories...now I'm at 1,650-1,750 on normal days.

What's crazy is that I've been snacking a LOT recently (and going over that daily limit) and have lost weight rather than gaining any.

So...are my calories too low? Work out less? Is something WRONG with me that a doctor needs to test? Any advice would be wonderful!

carolr3639 11-12-2008 09:49 AM

I think some of us wish we had your problem. Seriously, I think you would just need to eat more.

Thighs Be Gone 11-12-2008 09:51 AM

Maybe you should see a physician for a thorough physical. I can only dream about being your weight right now. I will join you though. Ribs sticking out I can seriously not even fathom.

rockinrobin 11-12-2008 10:05 AM

Hey Mindi. It just sounds to me like you're one of the lucky ones who is able to maintain at a higher calorie count. Good for you!!!

Perhaps add on a few extra calories with some calorie dense, nutrient rich foods. Like avocado and almonds.

Also wondering when was the last time you had a physical? Just to rule any medical reason out, I would go for a check up. Certainly can't harm and it would put your mind at ease.

MindiV 11-12-2008 10:47 AM

Thanks, y'all! I probably could use a checkup. I know something's wrong, due to other problems I've been having (numbness in my elbow, pain under my arms, swollen lymph nodes, etc.). But I'm still paying off the LAST round of tests my insurance didn't cover all of. Maybe I'm due for another checkup.

I wondered if it was a metabolism thing, Rockinrobin...I'll add some more calories starting today and see what happens. I guess I've been scared to do that too much. For a year I was meticulous about meeting a certain number, and I wanted to keep meeting a number that may be too low.

We'll see what happens!

Shannon in ATL 11-12-2008 11:21 AM

Hey Mindi -
I'm still losing weight on maintenance, too, but I think it is finally starting to slow down. I'm down to around 119.5 and am eating the same 1650-1750 calorie range as you, exercise 5-6 days per week. The last couple of weeks I've been up to close to 1800 average per day, I'm going to see where that puts me tomorrow. I'm hoping to still be at the same 119.5, or even back a little above 120. I seem to be maintaining it so far this week, and last Friday I hadn't lost any from the week before. I also feel like I've gone a little farther than I need to so I have to do something. I don't want to stop the exercise because I like the feeling I get from it and I'm really trying to reshape some spots that I'm not thrilled with (poochy tummy, for example...)

I'm hoping I can maintain on more calories than I expected, I just have to find what those calories are. I know it is scary to add them back in - I just kept thinking to myself that if I added in 100 more calories per day I would go crazy and eat everything I got my hands on. So far I've been able to control my eating still. Well, except for homemade pumpkin cookies. I'll admit it, the cookies beat me. :) But, they aren't usually around so I don't see them as a long term threat, and I'm not craving any other cookie or snack food. I do weigh myself every day right now - it helps me feel better about adding the extra calories. Gives me the feeling of more control.

Good luck sweetie. Going to the doctor might not be a bad idea for the other symptoms you mentioned, though.:hug:

traveling michele 11-13-2008 12:45 AM

I am still playing around with maintenance too-- trying to figure it out-- such a balancing act-- up, down, up, down...

But.... you need to see a doctor hon. Please listen to your body. If you have insurance, hopefully everything will be covered. Perhaps your thyroid is out of whack or something, but regardless, you need to go in. Swollen lymph nodes mean something-- could just be a virus, but they should go down after a few days....

MindiV 11-13-2008 08:49 AM

Shannon - Thanks so much! It's good to see I'm not the only one with this problem!

Michele - I'm working on a doctor's appointment ASAP. Yesterday my husband and I went to a graveside funeral service for a guy he knew in high school, and I randomly nearly passed out. Very scary, and obviously something's up.

bargoo 11-13-2008 09:52 AM

Mindy , it is good that you are seeing a doctor. However I think you are not eating enough calories. I would think about 1900 calories a day is what you need to maintain. It takes a little experimenting to find the right amount.

MindiV 11-13-2008 11:20 AM

Bargoo...I'm trying to add more...I just get full before I get there! I'm going to try hard to get higher and see what happens....

PhotoChick 11-13-2008 11:27 AM

If you're getting full, I'd try adding in some more calorie rich foods - go for quality, not quantity.

You haven't really said *what* you're eating ... and I do think that's pretty important. Are you getting enough protein? Are you eating enough veggies?

The nearly passing out thing is scary, and I def think you should see a doctor, but I also think there's more to the whole equation than just number of calories. Quality of calories is important, too.

.

MindiV 11-13-2008 11:44 AM

I keep track through sparkpeople...I'm low on protein most days...and higher on sodium. I'll eat a banana or apple for a snack every day, and we'll have at least two vegetables with dinner.

Snacks are my problem...I rely too much on "ready to go" foods like snack bars. They add calories but not always the nutritional value I need. I tried the South Beach high-protein cereal bars recently....blech. It was ok, but not anything I'll spend THAT much money on again.

I need to see a nutrition expert, really badly. I'm eating better than I used to...but not as well as I should. Maybe online research will help since I don't have access to an expert.

I know things like nuts are good for you and are higher in calorie...but I'm not really a fan. I'm bad about quantity over quality, I think...and that may be a lot of my problem.

What types of snacks (the good for you kind) do the rest of you have during the day?

PhotoChick 11-13-2008 12:44 PM

I try to get some form of protein every time I eat. For snacks I rotate a lot between the following:

apple with cheese
apple with peanut butter
banana with peanut butter
cracker with cheese
cracker with peanut butter
veggies and hummus
protein shake
boiled egg(s)
v8 juice (my only really low protein snack)
tuna on wasa (sometimes for a snack, sometimes for lunch)

I will say that I believe most snack bars are the worst thing you can possibly eat when trying to be healthy. Most of them are chock full of artificial stuff and don't provide the nutrition you need, especially when you're on a diet and limiting your calories.

When you're counting calories, you need to make every calorie count as much as possible.

.

MindiV 11-13-2008 01:18 PM

I DO use peanut butter a lot...breakfast is usually on the go, and a lot of times is peanut butter crackers. I'll also eat peanut butter with a sliced up apple from time to time, and that wouldn't be hard to do since I tend to eat apples a lot. I've never considered boiled eggs...that's something easy and portable, as well. Tuna would also be do-able...

Thanks!!

I try to get some form of protein every time I eat. For snacks I rotate a lot between the following:

apple with cheese
apple with peanut butter
banana with peanut butter
cracker with cheese
cracker with peanut butter
veggies and hummus
protein shake
boiled egg(s)
v8 juice (my only really low protein snack)
tuna on wasa (sometimes for a snack, sometimes for lunch)

I will say that I believe most snack bars are the worst thing you can possibly eat when trying to be healthy. Most of them are chock full of artificial stuff and don't provide the nutrition you need, especially when you're on a diet and limiting your calories.

When you're counting calories, you need to make every calorie count as much as possible.

Pink Geranium 11-13-2008 04:04 PM

I had the same situation as mentioned, continuing to lose weight on maintenance, plus I started exercising a lot more since I wanted to run in 5K's, etc. (I have been stable for about a year now). I found I had to add more calories and now eat about 1800-2000 a day. I don't eat much meat, and I follow a diabetic diet, so carbs are hard to come by for me. I rely on peanut butter a lot, as well as hard-boiled eggs, cheese, and yogurt (more fat, less sugar, I like the Greek style). Also beans of all kinds, and some grains, as I can fit in the carbs. Since my diet has so many restrictions I try to make every bite count. I sometimes eat those energy bars but I don't like the ultra sweetness of them and much of the time, they aren't appropriate for my diabetes situtation, anyway.

But it sounds to me like something else is going on and I agree, a doctor's visit might be a good idea. And if you can find a nutritionist, that would be a great thing (maybe your insurance will pay?) Seeing a nutritionist was the first step I took in losing weight (as I had to for diabetes, anyway) and she straightened out my diet and gave me a good plan that I still stick with. I've managed to keep up my energy, not gain or lose weight, and stay pretty flexible with my eating to meet my needs. Good luck with your health.

Schumeany 11-13-2008 04:12 PM

It just sounds like you're not eating enough. When I go under my calories, I get light-headed too, and I am currently eating your "maintenance' level of calories and continuing to lose with cardio six days a week and strength training every other day.

When I look my BMI/Activity Level up on a calorie calculator, most of them say I need at least 2000 a day to maintain -- and I am 2 inches shorter than you are. More food, my dear...shovel in some almonds. :)

While going to see your doctor is not a bad idea, I wouldn't sweat it too much... Often after weight loss people get light-headed because of the drop in their blood pressure. It takes a while to compensate.

Sheila53 11-13-2008 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Schumeany (Post 2451691)
While going to see your doctor is not a bad idea, I wouldn't sweat it too much... Often after weight loss people get light-headed because of the drop in their blood pressure. It takes a while to compensate.

While this might be true (although the drop in blood pressure usually happens when going from sitting to standing), swollen lymph nodes are an indication that the body is fighting something. Dizziness coupled with swollen lymph nodes sounds like something is medically wrong so I'm glad the poster is trying to get an appointment ASAP. And, hey, I think eating more is a good idea, too. :)

MindiV 11-13-2008 04:43 PM

I'm thinking my problems may be somehow related to an inner ear problem...got an appointment at 3 pm Friday.

Also...will certainly be eating more calories! I'll get this thing taken care of, one way or another...

MindiV 11-13-2008 04:51 PM

I also just did my BMR/BMI calculations...first time in a while...

My BMR comes in at 1,609, but my "maintenance" number is about 2,100. My BMI is 20.7.

So eat more...not a problem... :carrot:

mandalinn82 11-13-2008 05:21 PM

Mindi - quick way to figure out if your inner ear is causing the dizziness...go to the drugstore and get some Bonine (it's an OTC motion sickness med). Take a dose...it shuts off the inner ear balance signals, which is how it works on motion sickness. If the dizziness goes away, it is most likely an inner ear problem.

I have benign positional vertigo (basically...inner ear dizziness when I move my head) every time I get a cold, and Bonine fixes the problem. Your doctor can also move your head in specific directions/movements to realign the ear.

Sheila53 11-13-2008 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mandalinn82 (Post 2451776)
I have benign positional vertigo (basically...inner ear dizziness when I move my head) every time I get a cold, and Bonine fixes the problem. Your doctor can also move your head in specific directions/movements to realign the ear.

It's awful, isn't it? I had that, too, and got so dizzy sometimes that I'd vomit. I went to an ENT doc and had the "realignment" and haven't had any real problem since. From what I read later, that treatment is controversial and some docs won't do it. I was quite happy that my ENT did.

mandalinn82 11-13-2008 05:30 PM

I have a really strong stomach, but I also tend to gag when I move with the BPV.

A side note: Bonine might make you a little sleepy, so don't take your first dose when you have to be on your game.

MindiV 11-17-2008 08:41 AM

I went to the doctor on Friday...he's going to have me do a glucose tolerance test on Wednesday morning to see if I'm hypoglycemic. I brought up the ear thing, and he brushed it off. If I'm not hypoglycemic, I'll see about the Bonine and push the ear thing before I let him test anything further...

Can weight loss MAKE you hypoglycemic, or was it likely a problem I already was developing?

sdnyc99 11-24-2008 12:56 PM

Hi Mindi,
I'm new here and was glad to read your post because I'm going through sort of the same situation. After losing the weight I wanted, it keeps coming off without me really wanting it to. I'm down to about 130 (I think) at 5'7", which I think is fine and healthy as long as it stops there. But it's not stopping. I don't count calories, but I eat very clean and only whole, unprocessed foods. I've sort of become addicted to the gym and workout nearly every day.

I wasn't worried until I started getting comments. Then I fit into a size 4 jeans and was very happy with that. Now the size 4's are loose and I'm thinking "What is going on???"

I actually called into the Jillian Michaels radio show with this question (anyone else a fan? I sounded like an idiot because I was thrown off by actually hearing her voice!) and she told me to work on my body composition and add strength/weight training and to start counting calories to make sure I was getting 1800-2000 calories in. It seems silly to start calorie counting now, when I wasn't doing it before to lose weight. But I'll do what I need to do to stay strong and healthy.

I need to look healthy to be a good role model for my daughter, which is my #1 concern. I don't want to look stupidly skinny. But I also don't want the extra weight to come back on!

Anyway, to make a long post longer...I'm very interested to hear how your story is turning out and if you found anything else out from your doctor. Please share what is/isn't working for you. It often feels like there is very little support out there for a situation like this because the attitude I get is "Oh, poor you! I wish I were in your situation." But the truth is that we all want to be healthy, whichever way the scale numbers are going.

Angela

MindiV 11-24-2008 01:06 PM

Sdnyc99 – Thanks for your post! I've also run into a lot of the "that's not a real problem" attitude when discussing this issue.

The doctor ordered some blood tests, and we've discovered that I'm hypoglycemic. I haven't had a follow up appointment yet, so I don't know if this was a problem before I lost weight, or if it's something that's developed as I've gotten smaller. Luckily, for now, I'm hovering around 138-140. I'm 5'9" tall, so that's pretty skinny on me. My biggest concern at the present is finding out what I need to eat to help get the hypoglycemia under control, and NOT lose more weight.

I've been strength training during the entire process, and counting calories. I'm still working on upping my calorie consumption, but now I'm also having to worry even more about what I eat than I have been previously. The doctor also mentioned that the majority of people who are hypoglycemic WITHOUT diabetes will develop diabetes later in life. That also runs in my family, and is the primary reason I wanted to lose weight and take better care of myself: to avoid diabetes.

I guess my husband has the right attitude about it, though...he said that I probably would be diabetic, at this point, if I hadn't lost weight, rather than "just" hypoglycemic, which is manageable.

Shannon in ATL 11-26-2008 11:47 AM

Hi Mindy - I've been sick the last few days and just saw that you had updated on this post. I'm glad that there wasn't anything more serious wrong, hypoglycemia is absolutely manageable. Are you still losing weight? I've kept working on increasing calories, but haven't done a great job the last two weeks. Like you, I find myself full fast, so I'm trying to eat a lot of things like peanut butter and such to get more calories in for less volume.

Angela -I've gotten some of the same response from people in my life when I've talked about continuing to lose weight. I just got over being sick and think I've lost more weight again. I didn't weigh as it is also in the middle of TOM, but my pants are loose today too.

MindiV 11-26-2008 01:34 PM

Shannon - I'm hovering around 138-140...we'll see after next week, though. Through the last several months of my weight loss, and even now, the only time I LOSE weight is during my TOM...so we'll see...


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