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10-19-2009, 12:36 PM
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#151
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Wastin' Away Again!
Join Date: May 2006
Location: on the beach
Posts: 2,313
S/C/G: 192/170/130
Height: 5'3" 50 years old
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shepherdess
As a gardener, I hate to see good manure go to waste in the corrals.
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ROTFLMAO!!!! - thanks for the giggle, Shep!
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10-19-2009, 09:56 PM
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#152
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Practicing Imperfection
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 231
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Hi All,
I got through 2nd day of the craft show--yay! I didn't lose money, but made much less than the last couple years. By the time people got out to our chilly waterlogged tent, they didn't necessarily want to stand around in the puddles!
Today, tracked food, and calories under goal, credit. Zumba, credit.
Shepherdess--credit for prepping veggie snacks for the week! That's a great idea.
Bill--sorry to hear about the enforced breakfast. Credit for doing some planning, even if a bit lopsided. I have a meeting on Friday, with continental breakfast and lunch served. EEK!
Beach Patrol--Yay for a healthy breakfast!
Ruthxxx & Beverly Joy--Welcome!
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10-19-2009, 10:17 PM
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#153
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Lovin' Life
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: WNY
Posts: 4,456
S/C/G: 300/too much/155
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Ive been painting! Im sooooooooo sore too!
Made it to the gym this morning with my partner and she is talking about joining. That is just awesome. The coolest thing about this morning, we walked 2 miles...talked the whole way and the 2 miles was done in no time!
Food stinks! Ok, but remember the personal chef idea I came up with?
I gave the guy the idea and he is all over it! Even coming to the "girl night" meetings He should be ready to test run himself next month! We need a smiley with their hands rubbing together!! I cant wait!
Im relaxing...my legs and feet are very very tired!
Have a nice evening everyone!
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10-19-2009, 11:55 PM
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#154
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: California
Posts: 44
S/C/G: 181/?/130
Height: 5'4"
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Hello all,
It was quite a busy weekend, phew! Kind of glad to be back in my normal weekday routine.
I switched diets today. I was following the Biggest Loser Plan for the last year. I learned alot about how to eat right and portion size but now don't like the restrictiveness of it (following their meal plan with limited choices). I want to be able to eat what my family eats so I'm not cooking so many different meals. I just need to watch the portions. I think I have a plan worked out so I don't get the deprivation but yet not going overboard. I signed up for Weight Watchers online. I hope it will work ok. If not, I will have to go back to Biggest Loser. Does anyone else follow Weight Watchers online? The one thing I'm not sure what to do is Weight Watchers says you can eat what you want as long as you stay within your points although they encourage you to eat "filling foods". I already eat that type of food anyway but am not sure how to handle a situation of eating an unplanned snack even if it's within my point range? Beck says no unplanned eating, Weight Watchers says stay within my points. What do I do?
Anyway, off to log my meals for the day. I think I did pretty good today although I didn't get my exercise in because I didn't get home until 7:30pm and I had a raging headache. I know, No Excuses. lol. I'll work on that tomorrow.
Have a good Beck day tomorrow everyone.
Kara
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10-20-2009, 04:04 AM
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#155
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Super Moderator
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Boston area
Posts: 12,172
S/C/G: 239/173/165
Height: 5'9"
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Tuesday
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Had pumpkin soup for dinner - now that's accepting that fall is here. DW has a simple recipe using canned pumpkin and chicken broth that is thick and delicious. Soup and a salad was dinner. CREDIT moi for thoroughly enjoying a meatless fall meal.
Did gym; CREDIT moi. Found myself discussing then demonstrating how low I go for my squats to DW in our bedroom - a rather Shaker type of marital bedroom gymnastics, LOL. Don't tell our kids.
Robin (RobinW) - Dynamite that your personal chef is running with the idea; can't wait to hear how that fits into your life. Ouch for being tired from hard work, gym, and walking. Hope that translates into sleeping well.
Margaret (Nuxmaga) - Kudos for persisting with your craft show in the rain. Good luck with your enforced continental breakfast on Friday. I hate food served at work - so presumptuous.
Kara (Walking Princess) - Yay for busy, Ouch for the "raging headache" that came with it. I solve the problem of an unplanned snack by planning for three meals and three snacks. When an unplanned opportunity arises, I can usually substitute it for one of the planned events. I'd think the important issue is whether you're hungry because it's been a while since you last ate or whether you're responding to a Desire triggered by a food stimulus. That's a difficult one to be sure about.
Good luck with your on-line Weight Watchers.
Beach Patrol - Waving back. Are you also a gardener?
Shepherdess - Kudos for exercising with cow manure. For her birthday, I gave DW a book she wanted but was upstaged by her good buddy who gave her three bags of horse manure. Sheer delight in her eyes when she saw it. Yep, "winter amnesia" is what I got.
Readers -
Quote:
day 3
Eat Sitting Down
Opportunities to eat while standing up abound. Do you do any of the following?
. . . - Sneak bits of food from someone's plate as you clear the table.
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The Beck Diet Solution, pg 70.
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10-20-2009, 10:20 AM
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#156
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Wastin' Away Again!
Join Date: May 2006
Location: on the beach
Posts: 2,313
S/C/G: 192/170/130
Height: 5'3" 50 years old
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LOL Bill... me, a gardener? I kill everything with my very brown thumb! LOL... so, nope, I'm not a gardener at all, but that "manure" quip just got me to giggling. I am easily amused
Last night we had very JUICY pork chops and broccoli for dinner. It was good. I kept reminding myself to eat slowly, and after the meal was over, I didn't feel stuffed or over-full... I just felt satisfied, and that was very good.
I was going to exercise when I got home from work yesterday but got side tracked lending an ear to a friend who is going thru a divorce. I left work an hour late because of that, but being there for a friend is worth it to me. So I didn't exercise last night, but do plan to tonight.
Wish me BECK-luck.
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10-20-2009, 10:39 AM
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#157
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Casper, WY
Posts: 341
S/C/G: 137/137/125
Height: 5'3"
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I started stage 2 of the Beck plan yesterday. It means that I am dutifully measuring and weighing everything to teach myself portion sizes. When I first started the Beck, I looked over her schedule and figured I would be ready for stage 2 last week. But when I took a look over my progress, I thought it would be better to spend some extra time in stage 1 so I would have a better foundation. I was losing weight in stage 1. Just planning all of my meals and snacks has made a big difference. But now I'm moving on and using her "Think Thin Eating Plan." The calorie count seemed a bit high to me, but I'm going to give it a try for two weeks and if I don't lose weight I'll move down to the next calorie level.
I was having those "I don't wanna" thoughts all day yesterday. I think it's just that I've added a new element of discipline and my mind is rebelling. I spent most of yesterday in the car. I had a long drive to pick up some wool (my pet project). I packed my advantages and response cards along with my lunch and snacks and managed to stay on track even though I really didn't want to.
I thought I'd get a run in when I got back home, but the sheep had other ideas. The whole herd was in the wrong pasture. DH and I had to spend several hours moving them into the right pasture. The sun was setting by the time we finished so I got dinner ready and did a half hour of yoga while it was in the oven.
Nuxmaga, glad you made it through the craft show. Sorry the weather didn't cooperate better. Kudos on tracking food.
RobinW, good job on getting to the gym. Glad to hear your gym buddy will likely be permanent. Sorry that food sinks, but glad to hear you'll have a personal chef. How cool is that!
Walking Princess, I think it's good you're finding a plan that lets you eat with your family. Food should be something you share. I am far from an expert on either Beck or Weight Watchers, but I'll give you my 2 cents and you can take it for what its worth. I think it's a good idea to only eat food you plan. I think the point of Beck's plan is that we need to teach ourselves self-discipline around food. I think eventually you can have a bit more flexibility, but in the beginning you should stick to plans. That being said, if you reach the end of the day and you have points left, maybe you are not planning enough food earlier in the day. Maybe take that into account as you plan for the next day. Does anyone else with more Beck experience have any thoughts?
BillBE, pumkin soup sounds wonderful! I love fall meals. Kudos on going to the gym. LOL on squats in the bedroom! I love the idea of manure as a birthday present. I have plenty of it around. Maybe I should start gift wrapping!
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10-20-2009, 01:45 PM
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#158
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Boston suburb
Posts: 557
S/C/G: 273.5/251/245
Height: 5'8"
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Hello...
Hi, Everyone.
I popped in for a few days here in the middle of summer, intending to to start with Beck. But, a few days in I realized I needed to address some issues I was having with depression before I started trying to modify my coping mechanism. So, now I think it is the time to begin and introduce myself.
I am a graduate student and have been married for 7 years. My husband is wonderful. He has not struggled with weight, so he can't really comprehend what this is all about but tries his best to support me. We have a house full of wonderful pets - an aging Alaskan Malamute, a Saint Bernard, 3 snugly cats, and a couple of fish tanks. Keeping up with school, my health, our home, and all of the critters fills my time up. I am also trying to garden (permaculture) when I can, without investing too much of what little money I make as a graduate student into it!
I have been overweight as long as I can remember, with the exception of a few episodes where my body lost weight without me trying. I am really struggling with sweets right now, which is not usually my food overeating modality (usually I am not paying attention to hunger/fullness). I have been doing weird things like considering buying full-fat milk products, which I have never, ever done before. Why start now, when I am mentally trying to prepare for permanent weight loss? Strike that - when I am beginning a lifelong process of healthy eating and respect for my body. I guess, credit to me for recognizing this weirdness.
Day 1: Here are my advantage cards (I use a virtual list). (I editted out a few that were a little too personal to share.) I am getting better at reading them twice a day, but I keep trying to put it off until later and not getting around to it. Credit to me for making them, I guess, and recognizing that I need to appreciate their importance every day (else when would Beck make them Day 1!).
1) *I'll increase my self esteem.
2) *I'll feel more in control.
3) *I'll be able to exercise without discomfort or embarrassment and be active with my husband in the things he wants to do.
4) *I'll have more energy.
6) *I'll be able to wear more stylish clothes.
7) *I'll look better.
8) *I won't feel so self conscious.
9) *I'll feel like myself more.
10) *I'll feel more outgoing.
11) *I'll be less self-critical.
12) *I'll be more assertive.
13) *I'll do more things (like go to the beach & rock climb).
14) *I'll feel better physically.
15) *I'll live longer.
16) *I'll be in better health, with fewer aches and pains, less headaches, and decreased inflammation.
17) *I won't mind eating in front of others.
18) *I'll be able to cross my legs more femininely.
19) *I won't have chub rub!
20) *I'll be more physically fit.
21) *I'll be able to wear a smaller size.
22) *I'll be happier when I look in the mirror.
23) *I'll feel as though I escaped my parents' demons.
Day 2: I have selected the SuperFoods Rx Diet with Weight Watchers as a back-up plan. I have read the introductory chapters of SuperFoods Rx and am cleaning out my cupboards this week. It is really hard to throw away food, financially. I really want to think - well my husband could eat it. But, he has a tendency to hoard the very last bit of an item so that it will always be available to him, but never finish it and never get rid of it. So, I know in reality, I should just get rid of the junk, but I keep hearing the dollar signs when I mentally open the trash can.
Day 3: Eating while sitting down is going OK, not great. I am trying to extend that to include not while in the car, but some mornings it is all I can do to get out the door to make it to work on time. (To say that I am not a morning person would be a major understatement. I so wish I were though!)
Day 4: Paying attention to eating is really difficult for me. Credit to me for recognizing this so that I can address it better in future meals.
Day 6: My plan, if you are willing, is to utilize you, my husband, and a successful weight losing friend as my coaches.
Thanks for reading. I guess I should have started posting a few days ago to make this all easier on your eyes.
Thanks and have a wonderful afternoon.
Future Fit Chick
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10-20-2009, 08:39 PM
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#159
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 723
S/C/G: 155/145/130
Height: 5'7
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My fellow Beckies..
Hello, all dear Beckies,
And welcome, FutureFitChick; you are well-on-your-way.........good job on your advantage cards; you will find that most of us keep adding and sharing with our fellow Beckies/coaches. For the longest time, mine were about movement, just feeling light and young and happy to move. Now, they are about feeling small, as if I fit in something small..about feeling little..and young..and at my *ahem age, that is a good thing..Thanks for making me google "permaculture". More than a Beckie, more than anything else in the world besides *mom, I *am a gardener; I walk that fine line between passion and obsession. :-) Enough about me--you are well, well, well on your way. I am happy to see how fully you have embraced the Beck Diet Solution..never mind which book you are reading; either her first or second just lays out a fool proof blue print; just do it..just follow it..and success will follow. My 2 cents of advice is just follow it, just do it; don't worry about anything else, like the scale, just do it and success will follow. You know better than anyone that Aaron Beck developed CBT for treatment of depression, so you know that if you have dealt with that, CBT works, and will work for you with permanently achieving success with your weight control. You go girl.
Sheppardess, I am sooooo happy to have a fellow country girl on board as a Beckie. I have often talked about the joy of gardening/ pushing a wheelbarrow..did my share of cow s*** as a girl growing up on a dairy farm, now greatly prefer the characteristics of horse poop..but it is all good!
BillBE,thanks for sharing the pleasure of having such a classy guy at Brett Favre. How cool is it to see an old guy act like a kid with each successful play? Not sure we deserved the win, but W is a W, and we will take it. So, without the Sox or the Twinkies, just do we root for anyone but the Yankies? (no offense, Robin)
Greetings to all.
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10-20-2009, 10:46 PM
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#160
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Green Tomatoes
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Kirkwood, Missouri
Posts: 11,895
Height: 5'9"
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Sorry for the unannounced disappearance -- it was a planned internet break but started a night earlier than I expected.
Had a reasonably good couple of days. I need to read my response cards more often (Hunger is never an emergency...).
WI: +0.75kg, Exercise: +45, 878/1300 minutes for October, Food: op, Read my Advantages and Responses: yes
RobinW: yay on the gym workouts and encouraging the personal chef
Walking Princess: Good luck with WW, that seems like a workable plan. I think if I were to go with WW (which is my Plan B if I stall), I probably would work pretty hard to make sure my plan used up all of my points. I would also expect that to take a few weeks for me to work out and I would be pretty easy on myself -- even allowing an occasional unplanned snack if I was both within my points and hungry.
BillBlueEyes: LOL at your bedroom antics
Beach Patrol: credit for being there for a friend -- life isn't all about eating well and exercise after all
Shepherdess: good job on dealing with the "I don't wanna" thoughts.
FutureFitChick: welcome! Love number 23 of your advantages list. Much better phrased than my version of essentially the same thing.
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10-21-2009, 12:01 AM
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#161
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 3
S/C/G: 204
Height: 5'4"
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Hi everyone! This is my first time posting. I have just started stage 2 of the Beck Diet For Life, and I have to say that I am almost too full with all of the food I can have. I am following the 2,000 calorie plan and I don't feel like I can eat everything. I know alot of it is because it is high fiber food. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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10-21-2009, 12:17 AM
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#162
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: California
Posts: 44
S/C/G: 181/?/130
Height: 5'4"
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Hello,
I got home late again tonight because we had Family Portrait Night at the school. I ate on plan all day today and then researched what I had enough points for since we had to go out to eat tonight. DH wanted Chinese food. I'm not a big fish or veggie eater so I chose Sweet & Sour Chicken which I split with my DS. I skipped the white rice too so all I had was 1 c of the chicken. I went over by 4 points for the day which wasn't bad since I had to eat out. I was happy with myself but then mad at myself if that makes any sense. I went home and at 1 big piece of leftover Halloween cake we had laying around and about 3 handfullls of goldfish crackers. All eaten standing up. What the heck happened? I was doing so well! I'm having a bit of trouble trying to figure out my new eating plan I guess. Grrr. I will try again tomorrow but now I just feel worse than I did before.
BillBE - that pumpkin soup sounds so wonderful. Can you post the recipe? Love the story about the bedroom antics. Also, who would have thought manure was more appealing than a book? Gave me a giggle
Beach Patrol - kudos to you for making good choices yesterday. Being there for a friend in need is more important sometimes. Your dinner sounds nice and healthy. Great job!
Sheperdess - great job in moving to Beck's Stage 2. Great job! Thanks also for the snack advice. I appreciate your input
Future Fit Chick - welcome to our group! Kudos to you for making all your cards and being able to identify all your goals so well! It sounds like you are really in touch with where you are at with your eating habits.
Mary Blu - thanks for sharing your wisdom with Future Fit Chick. I feel like we can all learn so much from you in your posts.
Gardner Joy - thanks so much for your advice, I really appreciate it I'm glad to see you are back on line. ((hugs))
Talk to you all tomorrow
Kara
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10-21-2009, 05:21 AM
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#163
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Super Moderator
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Boston area
Posts: 12,172
S/C/G: 239/173/165
Height: 5'9"
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Welcome tikinettie
tikinettie
And, in honor of your first post on 3FC,
How did you find out about Beck's book?
And how did you find this thread on the 3FatChicks board?
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10-21-2009, 05:26 AM
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#164
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Super Moderator
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Boston area
Posts: 12,172
S/C/G: 239/173/165
Height: 5'9"
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Wednesday
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Unexpectedly went out to dinner with an out of town guest. Unexpectedly cleared my plate; Oh Well. At least it was mostly vegetables with a smallish portion of goat. I did leave three quarters of the naan, CREDIT moi, which I took home and will use for snacks for a few days. Naan - the traditional Indian flat bread - has all the nutritional benefits of Wonder Bread yet, when hot from the oven glistening with butter (maybe ghee - the Indian clarified butter) is killer good.
Took my standard four mile brisk walk, CREDIT moi, wearing only a light sweatshirt and no gloves. It only takes one slushy day to make me appreciate a fine New England fall day. Passed a sign in front of a house offering a snow blower for sale for $300 - an unwelcome reminder of looming reality.
maryblu - Sigh ... I am married to a woman who can tell me the advantages of horse poop. And do it with an absolute straight face in a dinner table conversation, LOL. There is no need to cheer for anyone in baseball after the home team gets eliminated. I could get excited about a World Series with Joe Torre's Dodgers defeating his old NY Yanquees. But I wouldn't enjoy the match if he lost, so I think I'd get heart burn if I watched.
FutureFitChick - Kudos for a roaring start into your Beck program. Yep, people who have never struggled with weight don't seem to "get it" - glad you're here. Neato on the permaculture - I'd love to see that working.
Thanks for sharing your Advantage Response Card. I particularly like, "16) *I'll be in better health, with fewer aches and pains, less headaches, and decreased inflammation." It works for me to concentrate my energy into eating for good health. I loved reading Super Foods just for the reinforcement that I can select more nutritious foods.
Yep, I'd be happy to be one of your Diet Buddies, and ask that you play that role for me.
Kara (Walking Princess) - Kudos for a stellar day and Ouch for the standup munchies at the end. You might try the Cheat Sheet exercise on page 104 of Beck Diet for Life if you have that book, of the Seven Questions of day 27 in Beck Diet Solution. When I've done that, I inevitably find that I had a strong feeling that I wasn't consciously aware of. It's been useful for me to spot that because it gives me a chance to head it off before it happens.
Joy (gardenerjoy) - "Hunger is not an emergency" is one of the most striking ideas to whack me upside the head in Beck's books. Even though I haven't skipped a meal since doing the exercise, it's empowering to know that I can if I need to.
Beach Patrol - Kudos for eating slowly and only until satisfied - not stuffed. Isn't that a great feeling? Wishing you "BECK-luck" to get to your exercise today. When real life intervenes, like your friend looking for a listener to discus her divorce, it can be useful to squeeze in a five minute walk just to remind the muscles that you know they're there.
Shepherdess - Yay for moving on to Stage 2 of the Beck Plan with Kudos for answering to your own pace. And Kudos for sneaking in your yoga while dinner was cooking. Yep, you should start gift wrapping your sheep manure. If we could only solve the transportation problem, I could sell it for a good price in the Christmas Stores that open up around here for a month with hand crafted and unusual items.
What's up with leaving a flock of sheep to drive to get more wool, LOL? Do you spin yarn and weave?
tikinettie - Kudos for roaring into Stage 2 of the Beck Plan. My take is that there's a tuning process to get the right food volume and calories for a lifetime plan. If you feel you're eating too much, you might cut back slowly to get your right level, being mindful that you don't want to create the feeling of being deprived. Feeling deprived can lead to the feeling of the right to eat off-plan. Good luck with finding your balance.
Readers -
Quote:
day 3
Eat Sitting Down
Opportunities to eat while standing up abound. Do you do any of the following?
. . . - Scoop ice cream out of the container or reach into a bag of chips while you're walking around talking on the phone.
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The Beck Diet Solution, pg 70.
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10-21-2009, 08:11 AM
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#165
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Just Yr Everyday Chick
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Florida
Posts: 10,852
S/C/G: Lost 50 lbs, regained some
Height: 5'3"
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Hey! I'm back from a vacation to the SF Bay Area, and I did not gain any weight!
I remained mindful the whole time, while also eating really great food! As BillBE would say, CREDIT moi!
Another credit: I went to the gym yesterday, my first day back. It would have been easy to tell myself that I could skip it, but instead I told myself that I didn't have to do a long or strenuous workout as long as I showed up. And really, that term, "showing up," is a good one for weight loss and maintenance.
I listed these on another forum as my vacation accomplishments:
Did I gorge on stupid candy (or other crappy foods)? No.
Did I eat until I couldn't move? No.
Did I allow myself to get overly hungry and then use it as an excuse? No.
Did I tell myself it was OK to eat mindlessly? No.
Did I listen to that "Oh, what the heck" voice? No.
Did I feel guilty because of what I ate? No.
Did I enjoy everything I ate? YES.
Did I savor every bite? YES.
Did I keep in mind that some foods are better for me to eat than others? YES.
Did I remain aware of my choices at all times? YES.
Thanks for the reminder about eating sitting down, Bill. That one has really helped me, and it was useful on the trip as well.
Today there is still unpacking to do, and some refrigerator clean-out. Also I need to remember what I actually do at work...
Hang in there, Beckies!
Jay
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