Nature's Own Wheat Bread...
 

isn't available where I live. I'm so disappointed!

Does anyone know of a high fiber bread (that I could count 2 slices as one starch) that's available in Wisconsin? :^:

Hi Teresa,
I am also from Wisconsin and unfortunately I have not found a high fiber bread that qualifies 2 slices - 1 starch which is sold here. When I started and was on red with lites, and had 3 starches I was searching for such a bread. Now I am on gold with lites and I only have 2 starches. At this stage of the process, I really have to separate my starches (breakfast and lunch almost never at dinner) and use the lowest calorie choices for starches in order to continue to lose. I wish I had known that when I started so that is why I am passing along the information to you.
Best of luck with your journey....

Wonder makes a lite bread that is suitable for the program, but i think it still counts as 1 slice = 1 starch..

sorry...

Can you ask your grocer to carry the natures own?

Thanks for the starch advice Lynn. That makes sense. I'm on purple w/ lites, so I get 2 starches also.

Thanks Dan, I guess I'll just have to make due with the lite breads available to me. I've checked with Nature's Own directly, and this is the response I got... :(

June 22, 2007

Control ID: 29175


Thank you for contacting us about our Nature's Own Double Fiber Wheat
bread. We appreciate your interest in this product and I wish I could
tell you that it is available in your area, but, unfortunately, it's not.
Our products are currently available in the Southeast, Southwest (New
Mexico), and mid-Atlantic states. Wisconsin is not yet in our market
area.

Because of the freshness and softness of our breads, we do not ship them.
For that reason, we do not accept orders to ship them to other parts of
the country.

Thanks again for taking the time to contact us. Our market territory is
expanding every year and I hope that one day you'll be able to find our
baked foods in your local stores.

that sucks! i'm from SD and will be moving back there next year and since i've been in NC, i've been buying that bread. it's really good!
i'll be sad when i move and can't find it anymore. guess, i'll have to use my starches elsewhere. :( maybe by then they'll have made it to the midwestern states!

Hi there! I asked my cousin (who is a counselor at a COD) regarding this bread topic, because it's such a big deal to me to eat a sandwich with 2 slices of bread (and of course I only want to count it as 1 starch). She said that the prerequisite for 1 starch is that it needs to be roughly 50-65 calories total. So, we'd need to find a bread that is roughly 25 calories/slice (regardless of the fiber content) for 2 slices to count as 1 starch. I hope that helps. (And if anyone finds one, please let me know!!)

Sara Lee Delightful Breads (white and wheat) is 40-45 cals per slice and each slice has 2G of fiber.

Also, some of the the flatout breads have lots of fiber......you can find locations/stores, but I've seen these at Super Walmart.
http://www.flatoutbread.com/movie.html

Before I found the double fiber bread I always used (and still do) the 4" whole wheat pitas by Toufayan. They come to the grocery store frozen and are usually stored by the deli. I just split them horizontally and they are great for tuna melts and open-faced veggie burgers, but also for sandwiches.

I asked my COD if I could count the Natures Own Lite Wheat as 2 slices per starch and she looked at me as if I was crazy and said she didn't know of any bread that counted that way (she's a bit of a hard as*). It's 40 cal per slice - that's the lowest I've been able to find anywhere. Which bread are you using as 2 slices per starch? I would love to be able to have an actual sandwich!!!

I'm using the Nature's Own Double Fiber Wheat Bread. I e-mailed the LA Dietician to specifically ask, so tell her to contact the nutritionist on your behalf. Here's part of the e-mail... (the slushy reference is Joni's recipe that's posted in the recipe threads)

Thank you for contacting us. You can count the Cherry Lemonade Super-Slushie recipe as 1 Fruit exchange. Also, 2 slices of Nature's Own Double Fiber Wheat Bread = 1 Starch.

Cassi - I just bought some Toufayan Pita Low Carb bread and 1 loaf is
130 calories
2.5 g fat
580 mg sodium (LAWL won't like that part)
16g carbs
9g fiber
11 g protein

Do you think LAWL would consider the entire pita as 1 starch based on the high fiber, protein, etc? or am I dreaming?

Also, you might want to ask your grocery store manager if he/she will order a specific type of bread for you. My grocery store, (it is call Shnuck's) will order anything for me, from sea food to cookies. It may be worth checking into. Good luck :)

Joni - I submitted your question to the dietician and will let you know when I know (probably Wed.)

For Joni...

Thank you for submitting your question to our Nutrition Department.

We do not recommend the Toufayan Pita “Low Carb bread” or any other form of low carb bread as they have not been designed for use with our program. For optimal nutrition, encourage you to choose nutrient dense, complex carbohydrates such as whole grain bread, whole wheat pasta, brown rice, oatmeal, baked potato, sweet potato, whole grain crackers, peas/corn, barley, etc. Be sure to space starches exchanges throughout the day for a balanced and consistent intake.

We will forward a copy of this email message to your center so that they may further assist you with your program.

We wish you continued success with your program.

Sincerely,
The Nutrition Department

Okay, here is my take on the bread issue. According to the Insulin Resistance Diet book and my sister's dietician, dietary fiber is not digestable. Therefore, when counting carbs, it is okay to subtract the amount of dietary fiber grams from the amount of carbs. This is why, I am assuming, that the LAWL dietician will allow 2 slices of Nature's Own double fiber. Let me break it down for you:

Nature's Own- 50 calories per slice, 13 carbs, 5 g. of fiber. 13 c - 5 f = 8 carbs. There are 4 cal in 1 carb, so subtract 50 cal from 20 cal (5 from our fiber x 4 cals each) and you get 30 cal per slice. This, to me, is why it is okay to eat 2 slices, you are still really only getting 60 calories.

Now, for those of us who cannot get Nature's Own, lets break down Wonder bread: There are 40 calories in a slice, 10 carbs, 2.5 grams dietary fiber. 10 c - 2.5 F = 7.5 carbs. 40 cal - 10 (2.5 x 4) = 30. Two slices equals 60 calories. I say, let them eat bread!

There may be some holes in my theory, however I have done quite a bit of research online. If anyone has any other insight, I would love to hear it.

Katie I totally think your "thought process" is right in the real world, but whether or not LAWL sees it that way... who knows.

Cassi - that wasn't the answer I wanted.....damn the online dietician. Guess the birds will be happy later on.

Katie - thanks for the info...I need to reread that about 10 times and it will sink in.

Healthy Life Bread
 

I found this Healthy Life Bread that has 35 calories per slice and only 5 net carbs. I took it upon myself to count two slices as one starch. I submitted this to the Dietitian but have not heard back yet. Here is the link in case you want to take a look.

http://www.healthylifebread.com/prod...ry=1&product=1

http://www.healthylifebread.com/imag..._HLOr100ww.jpg

How do you email the dietician?
Tammie

Wow, Bermuda Slim, thanks for the info. I would definitely use 2 slices as one starch. It is not sold in my area (that is what I get for living in the boonies), but I emailed to find out if it is possible to order it direct. Thanks again for the info!

Hey Bermuda Slim,

Please let me know what you hear from the dietician. I have used this bread before. It’s not awesome but definitely not bad. (Bread is not my favorite thing so it doesn’t have to be perfect.)

My family will eat this and not complain.

I buy it at the Wal Mart supercenter in Missouri.

Holly

Tammie - you have to belong to LAWL online to e-mail the dietician direct...or give it to your center to pass on to the dietician for you.

Thanks Bermuda Slim! I actually just bought some of this bread last night! Please let me know what you find out from the dietician.

Thanks again!

Finally Heard from Dietition re Healthy Life Bread
 

Here is the response:

In general, we recommend counting 1 slice of bread as 1 Starch exchange as we encourage portion control on the program. However, you can have 2 slices of the bread listed below as 1 Starch. Please use this in moderation and monitor your weight with its use. Let us know if you have further questions.



We wish you continued success with your program.



Sincerely,

The Nutrition Department

I have used this bread before but not the natures own. I know if I asked my COD about this they would act like I have 3 eyes or something so I think I might try this out before I say anything to them and see how I do. Thanks for all the info ladies!!!

Thanks for posting. I use this bread fairly regularly. I will stick with one piece of bread for now but know that I can have two if I "need" them.

I appreciate you getting back to us.