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2frustrated 03-06-2007 04:26 AM

:hug: Obie we all get a little like that sometimes! I like feeling full. Perhaps you need to eat a little bit more day to day? I find if I've been restricting too much I tend to want that fullness feeling more than if I haven't.

I tried Beef Jerkey today for the first time. It's rank! If I wanted to eat old boots, then I have a spare pare in my hallway that are going begging! :lol:

Obsidianbbw 03-06-2007 08:54 AM

friday and saturday are the days I ban myself from cooking or packing food to eat. Spiny has me wanting some Indian so maybe that will be my treat. I don't think I've had it since I've been doing IE. I have a salt tooth, so I love jerky. If you buy it when its softer its a nice snack. Actually I might some of that up to. I think the pther problem is the foods I've been eating are pretty bland and I'm bored with them. I Made a marinade last night to cook some chicken so we'll see.

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Originally Posted by 2frustrated (Post 1599131)
:hug: Obie we all get a little like that sometimes! I like feeling full. Perhaps you need to eat a little bit more day to day? I find if I've been restricting too much I tend to want that fullness feeling more than if I haven't.

I tried Beef Jerkey today for the first time. It's rank! If I wanted to eat old boots, then I have a spare pare in my hallway that are going begging! :lol:


2frustrated 03-06-2007 11:14 AM

I was googly woogly-ing this morning and found some links you might like to try.

http://intuitive-eating.blogspot.com/

http://intuitive-eater.blogspot.com/

http://www.chunktohunk.com/main/

http://magazines.ivillage.com/townan...596740,00.html

http://www.geocities.com/intuitiveeaters/

I think that's it....

It's quiet in here today eh?

I've had a so-so day today. I had a tiny breakfast and then spent all morning snacking on fruit, nuts, dried fruit, ryvitas until I cracked and had a chicken pita - however that kept me full till about half 2 and then I had some malt loaf. I just ate a few cherries that might tide me over until I get to the sports hall where I train for kickboxing. I might get a vending machine treat if I'm still hungry or some more malt loaf or something. I think I'm going to have to start eating more substantial breakfasts, but I think that's hard when you've eaten later the night before (unavoidable for me really). Perhaps I should start packing a "second breakfast" that's breakfasty that I can eat about 2 hours after a small brekky... :chin: yes.. That sounds good! :lol:

Obsidianbbw 03-06-2007 01:27 PM

Well I decide to check my plan out of the window today. Had a donut and milk for breakfast and Indian for Lunch. I am not stuffed, but pleasantly satisfied. I tried a new dish Lamb briyani (sp?) absolutely wonderful. Doubt I'll have a big dinner. Also I have no idea how many calories I've eaten today.

So thinking a few things. I need to try some new stuff for breakfast and lunch at work. I am going to attempt tandoori chicken tonight. We'll see how it goes.

Thanks for the link 2 Frustrated :hug: . My blog is actually called the intuitive eater. :D

carolr3639 03-06-2007 01:44 PM

2 frus., The first 2 links are by a girl who has an IE site on Yahoo. Sometimes it's pretty interesting. I think like Obi that food can get boring if we don't vary it. Sometimes it's hard, though, when you don't feel like cooking and live way out in the country. Out to eat means a half hour drive. Missing you dear Fiddler.

CinnamonGirl 03-06-2007 02:34 PM

Great links, Fru. Thanks for posting them.

So far today's been a good food day. I've not eaten much but I'm not feeling very hungry and that finally feels OK to say/think that. It's nice not to be stressing over food. Maybe my dieting head is finally stepping aside for IE.

breakfast: homemade scone and tea
snack: hard boiled egg
snack: organic apple with 2 tsp. Real peanut butter

Looking forward to a yam and green beans for lunch! I've sort of become a yam-aholic lately, LOL! No not too bad but have been eating at least 1/2 per day if not a whole one. They're sooooooooooo good. Wouldn't have believed that statement would have come out of my mouth a year ago.

Happy day everyone!
Beth

2frustrated 03-07-2007 07:26 AM

Obi - I've got your blog in my favourites ;) I figured you didn't need a link to your own blog ;) :lol:

Man I'm HUNGRY this morning! :faint: I've just been in a meeting since 10am and I took pecans, dried fruit and a fruit and nut bar and I'm starved already! I think it was the exercise yesterday. Not sure if I'm going to the gym today or not.... My gym buddy has just left her desk, so I'm not sure if she's gone to get changed or just the bathroom... I don't really want to go, but will go if she's going (I'm such a sucker!!!!).

Right, must get quick nibble before I fall over!

Obsidianbbw 03-07-2007 08:07 AM

Ok, Yesterday I ended up making a marinade that I got from here, grilled chicken and mixed vegetables. 2frus has me thinking about yams, but they looked like a science experiment so oh well. I think I am back from my bland food funk. Only did 30 min of workout this morning, will try and get in another 30 tonight.

Spiny, Fiddler and Cin, just saying hiya. Hope you're doing ok. Snowing here. suck to be me...blah...

2frustrated 03-07-2007 08:25 AM

It was cinnamon girl who had yams!

I'm trying to find a nice recipe for my dinner tonight and absolutely nothing looks appealing since I've very much just eaten and I'm nicely satisfied thank-you-very-much and I just can't think, "Oooooh that will be lovely tonight" with a full tummy... Strange! I used to be able to eat until I burst!!!! Now I can't even think about this evening's meal! :lol: :dizzy:

Obsidianbbw 03-07-2007 08:33 AM

Sorry...I'm all over the place today and only been up for an hour...I think its the snow....really dreading trying to get to work in it.

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Originally Posted by 2frustrated (Post 1600831)
It was cinnamon girl who had yams!



2frustrated 03-07-2007 08:37 AM

Can't you ring in and have a snow day???

carolr3639 03-07-2007 09:41 AM

Hi everyone. Beth, Do you eat your yams plain? I have one in the cupboard and don't know what to do with it. I've never eaten them much. Eating has been going good lately maybe because our table is broken and we're just eaing leftovers. ha! It is a big table that can be made smaller by removing the leaves. We just happened to have it opened way up because of company. My SIL was chasing my daughter and thought the table would hold him as he rounded the corner. It didn't happen. It needed fixing anyway. He felt really bad, though.

Spinymouse 03-07-2007 11:48 AM

Oh, man, where did that list of abbreviations go? SIL - Somebody's Irritating Lumberjack???

Spinymouse 03-07-2007 11:55 AM

Speaking of abbreviations, I have one that I really like. It's SEP. An example of usage would be: "Just forget about that ex-boyfreind, Fiddler. He's SEP."
(Somebody Else's Problem.)

CinnamonGirl 03-07-2007 12:44 PM

Spiny (Somebody's Irritating Lumberjack, LOL), SIL = Sister in Law

Carol, I eat my yams with a little Smart Balance, salt and pepper. I just scrub the heck out of it under water with a little soap, cut the ends off and throw it in the microwave for about 3 minutes or so depending on the size. I like them better in the oven but have a hard time justifying heating up the whole oven for one little yam. Once it's cooked I mash it up, add SB and S&P and eat. Sooooooooooo good! I don't like them sweet so don't go in for the brown sugar or marshmallows like others do. I'm going to try some salsa on one to see if that's good too as salsa is so good for you.

Yesterday I ate a huge yam and then felt "Turkey Dinner" full after. Yuck, haven't done that in a long long time. Ugh. I won't do that again. I'm starting to discover that my stomach is happiest if I eat about a fist sized portion of food in one sitting. If I eat more than that I get cramps or other stomache issues (sorry, TMI). I can recognize that after the fact I just have to start remembering it while I'm making my food. My eyes are always bigger than my stomach. ***Got to remember - "eat less but more often" and I feel so much better.***

Beth

carolr3639 03-07-2007 02:14 PM

Sorry........that was son-in-law.

Obsidianbbw 03-07-2007 02:16 PM

After a 2.5 hour commute made it in. Going home is always better. I second whoever is talking about making the yams. I usually try and cook a few at time and then nuke them when I am ready to eat one.

CinnamonGirl 03-07-2007 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by carolr3639 (Post 1601449)
Sorry........that was son-in-law.

Oh, DUH, of course in your context SIL is Son in Law. Sorry, guess I wasn't reading very well, LOL!

Beth

Obsidianbbw 03-07-2007 04:00 PM

2frustrated. I owe you a pint if we ever meet? Do you drink guiness? I probably shouldn't assume. The blogs were ok, but the town and country and frm chunk to hunk were really great.

complete unrelated have you ever read Pratchett? I forget his first name.

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Originally Posted by 2frustrated (Post 1599551)
I was googly woogly-ing this morning and found some links you might like to try.

http://intuitive-eating.blogspot.com/

http://intuitive-eater.blogspot.com/

http://www.chunktohunk.com/main/

http://magazines.ivillage.com/townan...596740,00.html

http://www.geocities.com/intuitiveeaters/

I think that's it....

It's quiet in here today eh?

I've had a so-so day today. I had a tiny breakfast and then spent all morning snacking on fruit, nuts, dried fruit, ryvitas until I cracked and had a chicken pita - however that kept me full till about half 2 and then I had some malt loaf. I just ate a few cherries that might tide me over until I get to the sports hall where I train for kickboxing. I might get a vending machine treat if I'm still hungry or some more malt loaf or something. I think I'm going to have to start eating more substantial breakfasts, but I think that's hard when you've eaten later the night before (unavoidable for me really). Perhaps I should start packing a "second breakfast" that's breakfasty that I can eat about 2 hours after a small brekky... :chin: yes.. That sounds good! :lol:


Spinymouse 03-07-2007 04:29 PM

TERRY PRATCHETT???!!! I LOVE TERRY PRATCHETT!!!

Obsidianbbw 03-07-2007 05:42 PM

I went to nothern ireland when I was 21 I think, A friend loaned me guards guards for a flight and I have been hooked ever since. What else do you read Spiny?

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Originally Posted by Spinymouse (Post 1601631)
TERRY PRATCHETT???!!! I LOVE TERRY PRATCHETT!!!


2frustrated 03-08-2007 04:20 AM

:yes: I love Terry Pratchet too! I'm not a Guiness drinker, however they are supposed to be bringing out a guiness flavoured Marmite (yeast extract) which I am looking forward too! :T

Must rush off - we're out on a mission for work! Will update later :)

2frustrated 03-08-2007 08:51 AM

Ok update time! :lol:

My scales are up a pound this morning :mad: :tantrum: *BREATHE* it's one measly pound and I've been doing this for 2 weeks and it can't be that I've eaten too much. :nono: It's most probably a little bit of water retention from that slice of toast I ate before bed :rolleyes:

I had a really nice chill out night last night. Yesterday I was feeling a bit faint and shaky through the day, and I think I'm trying to fight off some sort of bug, so I took my rest day from the gym and didn't do much in the evening apart from a shed-load of washing up, some clothes washing and some other general tidying.

I was feeling really really sick this morning so I had about 4 spoons of cereal. Fortunately I came up with a great way to not waste the rest! I have this really expensive musli that I treated myself to at the weekend and I'd poured myself a bowl of that, so was really narked when I was going to waste almost the whole bowl! I was making cottage cheese pancakes for work, so I put the rest of the drained musli in that! :lol: :dizzy: Well at least it wasn't wasted! :)

I was feeling a fair bit sick this morning, and I'm kind of feeling a little queasy now, however not enough to not eat, just after I've eaten! :crazy: so don't know what's up with that! Not 100% sure I'll be going kickboxing tonight. Well at least I'll have a nice rest :)

ebb&flow 03-08-2007 09:20 AM

can I join you?
 
I think I want to try something new/old. I've done the diet thing before to lose weight. Then a few years later got pregnant with a beautiful little boy. I gained a bit of weight with that pregnancy and now my baby is a year and a half old. I think I can officially call this mommy fat, not baby fat. I say I want to try something new/old because I've done the diet thing, so I want to try something new to me (IE). I understand it's not anything new. I'm sure cavewomen didn't diet. I know in my history there was a time before I felt self-conscious about my weight when I didn't even consider a diet. Deprivation just makes me want to eat more and gives me cravings for the junk food I'd banned. Calorie counting just makes me obsessed and calculations. I want to lose weight with some ladies who are positive about their food choices. I have lots of non 3fatchick friends who are trying to lose weight, but who are always beating themselves up ("I had ABC food. I'm disgusting") and it really impacts how you feel and your food choices. I want a healthy relationship with food. I think unlabeling while consciously making the healthiest choices without weighing and counting and banning foods will be a step in the right direction.

Spinymouse 03-08-2007 11:48 AM

Hi Ebb, and welcome! I agree that a diet that makes you obsessive is hard to sustain, and beating yourself up doesn't do any good!
2frus: I hope you feel better! Rest when you need to!
God, I rest when I don't need to (ALL THE TIME) so I need to take some motivation from you to exercise! How do you motivate anyway??! I guess I am so OLD that I feel, "yeah, I've done that before...." so it's not new and exciting anymore.
Obi - Guards Guards! is great, isn't it? I read mostly non-fiction but when I read fiction I like it to be really out there kind of fiction. Have you read anything by Richard Brautigan?

If he taught his worries to sing they would make the Mormon Tabernacle Choir sound like a potato. - Richard Brautigan

jo

Spinymouse 03-08-2007 12:55 PM

"Secrets"
 
Ok, pals, I have another peeve - "Secrets." I just got some email (again) trying to entice me to learn weight loss "secrets." First of all, it's not a secret if it is something you are sending to hundreds of thousands of people, is it? How can that be a secret???
Click here for "beauty secrets of the stars" ARRRGH! -- they aren't secrets!!!!!!!
Second of all, when you click on the dang thing it's never anything new, just stuff you've heard all along.... where is the big SECRET? That's like saying "not to mention" and then mentioning whatever it is that you weren't going to mention.
Now if I have a SECRET, then, it's a secret so why am I going to tell somebody what it is?
I don't get it.

carolr3639 03-08-2007 06:27 PM

Welcome, Ebb. Had a funny day today. Had soy milk and wasa crisp bread for breakfast and then went to cook 440 meat balls for a Bible conference later this month. I had help, of course, but then my DD wanted to go shopping. I was really tired but said yes. After shopping for a few hr. she wanted to eat. I wasn't starving but agreed. Funny thing, after we ate I was really hungry. ha! Couldn't seem to get satisfied.

Spinymouse 03-08-2007 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by carolr3639 (Post 1603147)
Funny thing, after we ate I was really hungry. ha! Couldn't seem to get satisfied.

Then it probably wasn't really hunger, but you stimulated your appetite. (??)

2frustrated 03-09-2007 07:30 AM

:wave: Hi Ebb!

Spiny - I feel LOTS better today, thank you!

Carol, I just did something a bit like that - I ate a (HEALTHY) muffin for a small snack and was hungrier after than before. :p I know what you mean about stimulating appetite Spiny. Fortunately I've had lunch now and feel satisfied again. I'll probably be ok till round about 3pm, when I have some more nice things with me to eat :) Then the 'rents are coming tonight and that will be the real test. I tend to regress to 14 year old eating habits, ie eating everything in sight!!!

Oooh and a small IE victory last night - I waited until DH came home to eat my dinner. When I got in I'm usually starving, but yesterday I realised that I wasn't so I sat down with a cup of tea and a tiny snack just to put me on. Then DH came back and we had jacket potatoes. I swear mine was about the size of a child's fist! :lol: Then after that I decided to make healthy muffins and DH wanted me to make something else because he didn't like them last time I made them! He he he, all the more for me :devil: So I made cherry oatmeal cookies. They were pretty fab, and I managed to bake the whole lot and only eat about a teaspoon of mixture, licked the almost-clean bowl and then had 2 tiny tiny cookies. Then after that I could leave the rest alone!!!! :faint: They even made it to the cake tin :faint: Then I sent DH with a load for work and there's 4 left for me, DH, mum and dad tonight :)

THEN after that I baked those healthy muffins that I originally intended to bake and I didn't even want to eat one. I just put them in the fridge for today. :)

So 3 victories in one day :D I'm really really noticing that my attitude to food is shifting dramatically. I've noticed there are times when I don't even think about food! :eek: There are times when I've just eaten and don't want to eat more!

carolr3639 03-09-2007 07:50 AM

Can anyone explain that "stimulating the appetite" idea a little fruther? How does that happen? 2frus, Can we get that recipe for cherry oatmeal cookies? Sounds good.

2frustrated 03-09-2007 08:33 AM

You know how people pass round little vol au vents or crudites or crostini as "appetisers". I think what happens is that if you eat just a little bit of something when your body isn't hungry, it still whets your appetite and your body expects more. I think because all the digestive juices etc get all revved up even when you eat just a tiny bit, then your body is ready and waiting for more and is trying to get you to eat.

Also, how about the GI of your meal. Was it white bread/highly processed? Stuff like that tends to make you hungrier quicker. I did think about how my muffin should've made me feel and it was full of rye flour and hardly any sugar, plenty of pears and nuts and a little bit of fat so I KNOW that I shouldn't have been hungry, but my body obviously wanted more, since it was preparing to digest a lot!

I'll have to post the recipe for cherry cookies on Monday - it's at home and I'm at work!

fiddler 03-09-2007 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by carolr3639 (Post 1603827)
Can anyone explain that "stimulating the appetite" idea a little fruther? How does that happen? 2frus, Can we get that recipe for cherry oatmeal cookies? Sounds good.


There are certain foods that stimulate appetite due to how your body processes them...for example sugar and other refined carbs. One of the side effects of eating them is that it screws up your body's sensitivity to leptin, which is one of the satiety hormones. Insulin also plays a role.

Which is one of the reasons I've cut out processed foods.

When I have time I'll try to find you an article on it.

carolr3639 03-09-2007 05:13 PM

Thanks, Fiddler and 2frus. I just bought Andrew Weils book about aging and he has a lot of interesting explanatioins about out bodies.

Dawn2Dusk 03-10-2007 04:52 PM

I love this thread. I have yet to read a book on intuitive eating (thinking about picking up a book at the library tomorrow) but I read a few threads about intuitive eating here and it felt as if the thread itself was yelling out to me, "Look here! This is for you!" I've tried Atkins and South Beach, tried Weight Watchers for a little while as well. But I am so tired of counting calories, or carbs or points, or making sure I ate 6 mini-meals a day, even though I wasn't hungry. I gained so much weight because I'd give in to my cravings and eat, eat, eat! And once I had something "illegal", I'd beat myself up about it, thinking, "Well, I ruined my diet by eating this one thing. I might as well just quit." And then I'd go back to binging. It was a vicious cycle.

Then I learned about intuitive eating. And it makes so much sense to me. I need to learn to differentiate between a craving and actual physical hunger. That's what I've been doing all day today and I'm so surprised to learn that after my healthy and filling breakfast (which amounted to a almost 300 calories) I haven't felt hungry since. Craved food, sure, but not really felt hungry! And somehow, the knowledge of being able to differentiate the two makes it so easy to resist cravings.

I can't wait to read the book!

carolr3639 03-10-2007 06:48 PM

Welcome Dawn. There are a lot of books on IE. The Overfed Head is simple and short and the one I have enjoyed the most.

Spinymouse 03-11-2007 04:04 PM

Hi Dawn -
I'm looking forward to your posts!

jo

2frustrated 03-12-2007 05:10 AM

:wave: Welcome Dawn!

Hello! I'm a stuffed-Frus today :p

I just about coped on Saturday with IE, however I did have stupid ice cream and cheesecake when I wasn't hungry, but :p

Yesterday I just blew it completely and this morning I am not hungry at all, so it's 9am and I haven't had breakfast yet - just 2 pints of water and a cup of tea!

I know why I ate at the weekend - it's the 'rents. For some reason they just stress me out, and DH can be a little abrasive with them and it winds me up big time. Also Dad is just getting bigger at the moment and he ate loads of :censored: yesterday. I am quite worried about him but he won't ever take the hint. :( Mum is doing well and is really excited about her new gym and losing weight and stuff.

So I feel like the damage I did yesterday will be undone today with a nice run at lunch and perhaps a long cycle ride on Wednesday if the weather holds.

Looking forward to getting my head back in the game this week and am going to try and lose a little bit of weight.

Obsidianbbw 03-12-2007 08:21 AM

Beginning of an interesting post. Has IE all over it in my opinion

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=106909

Second Link Added Later. Also thought provoking and I think it is about the same article.

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=106954

nelie 03-12-2007 12:35 PM

I'm not an IE person but I have been reading a book that I thought some of you might find is interesting. It is called "If Buddha Came to Dinner". Although non religion specific, it talks about eating what your "spirit" wants rather than what your stomach/head want. Also talks about the quality of the foods you eat and nourishing your body with those foods rather than just eating for eatings sake. I'm not done with the book but it is kind of interesting so far.

Anyway, I thought since it is on the vein of IE, that it might be something interesting to read. The book also has some recipes but I haven't looked too far into those yet.

Spinymouse 03-12-2007 12:48 PM

Nelie, thank you for that recommendation - that is right up my proverbial alley! Another one I liked and am reading the second time around is "The Yoga Of Eating," it sounds like the Buddha book is along the same theme. Oh Boy, Amazon loves me! :D


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