Hello fadedbluejeans.

Originally Posted by fadedbluejeans:
just throwing this out there, but there is also some research that indicates fat cells influence the hormones that cue hunger, so just having extra fat can make your body signal hunger cues.

I did not know that. It is good to know I am not crazy, just getting unfamiliar body messages. Thanks for that info.

This morning I feel "great!", I'll go for another bike ride today.
Did not lose anymore weight. I'll just keep watching it from now on and just report my weight on a weekly basis. I think this weekly report will help me to keep aware of my goals.

After looking at my diary, last night's supper was my usual bowl of cereal. My resolve to just have a piece of fruit for supper got dissolved somehow.

Has anybody got any tips on how not to dissolve resolves?

protein. honest. it'll keep you fuller longer, and let's face it, with the cycling you're doing, you really do need to provide protein to support your muscles. you want to lose fat, not muscle mass.

and protein can be low fat animal sources [chicken, turkey, lean beef, lean pork, fish, etc], or legumes [chick peas, black beans, navy beans, lentils, etc], or eggs, and other dairy, or tofu.

or protein shakes. just make sure to watch the carbs and the calories in them. you're looking for one that has more protein than carbs in it.

Thank you jiffypop.

Good to get that quick rundown on the types of low fat meats, and legumes. I'll copy, paste, print and stick on kitchen wall.

I finished reading that book "Fitness Confidential" (as mentioned in post #10). It tells to stay away from processed sugars and grain, and to exercise.
However it also talked about how fat does not make us fat. It also mentions about how we used to eat in the old days (my parents are from Europe) when obesity was not a community problem, where things were cooked in butter and oils, roasts baked in fat, etc. etc.

I have already started to replace foods in my fridge and pantry. I am going back when I was a little boy who did not eat white breads, but rye based breads, butter instead or margarine, fruit instead of sugars, baked apples etc instead of tarts and donuts.
You know, the stuff that our grandparents used to cook and provide for the family instead of the supermarket processed stuff.

I'll give it a good go and report how it goes.
Actually I am looking forward to revisit those old recipes. AND to reacquaint myself with my road bike (which is waiting for me to get used to regular short rides on my mountain bike).

sounds like a plan! just don't go crazy with the fats - it's one thing to use a tablespoon or so of oil to cook several pieces of chicken, but quite another to use 1/2 cup. I much prefer full-fat dairy, and find that i don't eat nearly as large a serving of full-fat dairy vs low-fat or fat free.

but that's just me. and i dont' eat a lot of processed foods, either. there are several forums around here that you might find helpful - sugar busters, low-carb, the vegetarians, paleo. There are a lot of good ideas in there - you don't have to actually BE on the plan to benefit from it.

You need to find your own sustainable path, and it might be combinations of several. But the ones i've mentioned tend to eat 'the outside of the grocery story' where all the fruit, veggies, meats, cheeses are. the aisles tend to have the processed foods. But the grain aisles are worth an occasional visit for quinoa, brown rice, whatever whole grains you're allowing yourself.

Thank you jiffypop for that extra information. I am looking forward to read the other info on the forums.

I still get these weird thoughts. Now it is more about 'not feeling full yet' even though I know I am no longer hungry. It especially happens after dinner, when I normally has some dessert. Maybe it's a sugar craving, or part of an addictive nature to sugar - a feel good.

In any case, I know that those mental thoughts are irrational, yet they 'feel' so right. It is not easy to ignore, or try and replace the thought with a rational thought.
All this implies, that I cannot really trust my own thinking when it comes to eating. It's a bit of a blow to the ego...(humble pie, mmm :hungry:)

At least, for my first week (after Sunday) I have lost some weight (so far 2.5 kg / 5.5 lbs).:carrot: <-- couldn't resist adding it on.

2heavy,

I turn 60 this year, and can tell you that weight loss now is very much different than when I was younger.

Sugar addiction is a real thing, and can cause havoc. So many pre-packaged and processed foods are loaded with hidden sugars that affect our hunger.
I very rarely eat anything processed, and have cut out any refined sugars, but will eat certain fruits sparingly, and this has been working for me.

Someone once told me - "Eat when you are hungry, but stop when you are no longer hungry, not when you are full". There is a huge difference.

Thanks jolljude.

Thanks for reminding me about the hidden sugars. Insidious how addictions seem to make you forget. I think some call it 'denial'.

Another thing I forgot about, to stop eating when no longer hungry (not when full).
I also remember reading that the signal from stomach that hunger has abated takes about 20 minutes.
So if we don't eat slowly, we still could shovel in more than needed to change the signal.

I really do need to be reminded of such things. Thanks again Jude for your help.

Good morning, today is Sunday, the last day of my first week in recover. I weigh myself every morning. So far I lost 3 kg (7 lbs) Wow!! :carrot:
I know that most of it was excess water. Hard to imagine it to be fat-loss for such little exercise. I know I have rode 44.5 km (27.6 mi) so far (Sunday is not over yet), but this is small compared to what I used to do four years ago.

Anyway, I suspect the drop rate in weight will come down to my old rate of 0.7 kg (1.5 lb) per week. Yet again, I am following a different food plan.

What do you think, can a person lose more weight per week, yet get fitter and stronger* through exercising?

*I do not wish to compete in road racing anymore. It takes up too much time in training. I have other pursuits now, such as art.