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Mimi47 11-10-2014 06:05 PM

No worries, but, actually, I was just trying to help out Liana (canadjineh) above :) I'm not even going to start thinking about bread for myself at this point!

canadjineh 11-10-2014 06:50 PM

Actually grain carbs are allowed on the Alternative Plan Phases, but only one a day. I can eat buckwheat & rice, but can't see either of them puffing up properly for puri since they have no stretchy gluten, lol. Good for other breads like naan or chapatti, though.
You could use ghee instead of EVOoil if necessary although remember your portions; spices are no problem of course as long as there are no added sugars to them, but I can't think of any that would have sugar, off hand. No Indian desserts of course, lol. Nothing low carb about them!!
I've used the broccoli cheddar soup packet for a tortilla/chapatti sort of 'bread' but it was hardly worth it for me. I can see packet hacking if you are on this for more than 6 months, but for me I only missed all my rice and beans/legumes. For the amount of weight I had to lose and the fact that I ended up doing the Alternative Plan (diabetic style) I could wait til maintenance with only one serving of starch carbs a day, really. Took me about 3 1/2 months so no biggie.
Once you are on P3 pretty well anything goes for breakfast as you need some carb, some fat, and some protein. Actually as I wrote in to the IP Video email site (& they agreed), you could have pizza for breakfast anytime and not have to save it for your Funday in maintenance. That would go for your favorite Indian style dinners - having it for breakfast instead but again not including a dessert (unless you have a tiny dab of kulfi).

Liana

canadjineh 11-10-2014 08:01 PM

Here's the 'rules' for Alternative Plan...
** IMPORTANT: Choose one item from a different “Group” at each meal. You must consume 1 choice from each 3 Groups per day.
You may not substitute one group to choose an additional food from another group. **
GROUP 1: 2 slices of toast (whole grain, pumpernickel, rye, multigrain sourdough, stone ground whole wheat, oat bran, sprouted grain),
150g whole-wheat pasta, 150g brown rice (non-instant), 1 sweet potato or small boiled potato, 60g oatmeal (non-instant), 150-200g couscous,
50g unsweetened cereal (bran, oat, whole grain, barley), 150g cooked legumes (chick peas, lentils, green peas, kidney beans), 150g corn

GROUP 2: Fresh fruit (e.g. - 1 grapefruit, 1 apple, 2 kiwis, 150g pineapple, 1 banana, 200g strawberries, blueberries, blackberries, raspberries) **these are examples, you may choose other unsweetened fruit, in a normal portion size**

GROUP 3: 1 sugar-free (no added, that is) yogurt, 1 6oz glass of milk (2% M.F. or less), 30g cheese (about 20% M.F.), 120g cottage cheese, 60g feta cheese

This is in addition to your usual P1 veggie/meat/packet/vitamin/water/salt instructions :D

Aria05 11-10-2014 09:38 PM

Thanks Liana!!maybe a week of *alternate* when I am at my in-laws place hehe My mil cooks like a dream:) and if i don't see any big upsets I will seriously consider switching coz I miss my gym!!
Thank you SO much!!

Aria05 11-11-2014 01:44 PM

how does one measure cooked lentil i wonder!! there is water in it. maybe cook it till all water dries!! and den measure it? just wondering out loud.
Thanks!

canadjineh 11-11-2014 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Aria05 (Post 5093096)
how does one measure cooked lentil i wonder!! there is water in it. maybe cook it till all water dries!! and den measure it? just wondering out loud.
Thanks!

If you can make it not too soupy, you can probably measure 170g/ml in your measuring cup instead of 150. 150 would be for cooked whole/mashed beans/legumes without a lot of juices. That's how I would do it anyhow, but I don't like really soupy daal myself. You could also try capturing the juices after dumping in a fine sieve just to see what the difference would be.

Aria05 11-11-2014 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by canadjineh (Post 5093098)
If you can make it not too soupy, you can probably measure 170g/ml in your measuring cup instead of 150. 150 would be for cooked whole/mashed beans/legumes without a lot of juices. That's how I would do it anyhow, but I don't like really soupy daal myself. You could also try capturing the juices after dumping in a fine sieve just to see what the difference would be.

home cooked daals it is then:) so dat i can measure properly:) In retrospect, that was a very silly question. I must be melting neurons with fat :(:)
Thanks for answering without LOL Liana!! you are the best!!:)

chipper 01-20-2015 11:08 PM

Wondering if there are any indians still doing IP. Being indian I miss all my comfort food. Would love to hear any good indian recipes that has worked

canadjineh 01-20-2015 11:16 PM

I have used ghee for olive oil replacement. Just think about the spiced up cauliflower. Cooking onions and tomatoes down to a flavourful sauce for anything with the correct spices. The no-no's right now are the beans/legumes and the yogourt ingredients UNLESS you are on the Alternative P1 for diabetics. There's lots of yummy food out there yet. Even if it isn't a traditional dish, try using your favorite spice mixes with IP approved veggies. Zucchini will always work in almost anything as will cauliflower.
Just no chapatti, naan, bhajias, samosas - you know all the deep fried stuff and breads.

Get creative and add to the recipes on the Daily Chat recipe link. I'm looking forward to checking some of them out.

Liana

PurpleMomster 01-21-2015 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by chipper (Post 5120831)
Wondering if there are any indians still doing IP. Being indian I miss all my comfort food. Would love to hear any good indian recipes that has worked

I love East Indian food - my ex-husband was from the UK so he introduced me to it! I've made this recipe quite a few times, with cauliflower rice: https://arcticworld.wordpress.com/20...utter-chicken/

Now...I think I need to make it again :)

Mimi47 01-21-2015 10:45 AM

Easy Crockpot Chicken Curry
 
Welcome chipper. I use my Indian spices with just about any vegetable imaginable -- use a little olive or grape seed oil to heat up cumin and mustard seeds, then add veggies and other ground spices as desired.

Also, a very easy crockpot chicken curry has become a weekly staple in our home. The first time I tried it, it was meant to be just for me, but the rest of my family wanted it too! Now I plan ahead and make enough for all of us :) I don't use any oil or tomatoes for it. Just toss all of the following in the crockpot at the same time and let cook: bite-sized chunks of chicken breast, small amount of chopped onion, diced red bell peppers, garlic, ginger, salt, and whatever other spices you want (curry powder, cumin, cayenne, garam masala, turmeric, etc.). Then splash some chicken broth over all that (I use about one cup for 1 lb. chicken, but obviously this can vary). Let cook (stir occasionally) and enjoy later topped with chopped cilantro and onions and with cauliflower "rice" or by itself! I consider this 100% OP, even though some onions are cooked in the curry (they don't caramelize, so I think that's OK).

scorbett1103 01-21-2015 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mimi47 (Post 5121009)
Welcome chipper. I use my Indian spices with just about any vegetable imaginable -- use a little olive or grape seed oil to heat up cumin and mustard seeds, then add veggies and other ground spices as desired.

Also, a very easy crockpot chicken curry has become a weekly staple in our home. The first time I tried it, it was meant to be just for me, but the rest of my family wanted it too! Now I plan ahead and make enough for all of us :) I don't use any oil or tomatoes for it. Just toss all of the following in the crockpot at the same time and let cook: bite-sized chunks of chicken breast, small amount of chopped onion, diced red bell peppers, garlic, ginger, salt, and whatever other spices you want (curry powder, cumin, cayenne, garam masala, turmeric, etc.). Then splash some chicken broth over all that (I use about one cup for 1 lb. chicken, but obviously this can vary). Let cook (stir occasionally) and enjoy later topped with chopped cilantro and onions and with cauliflower "rice" or by itself! I consider this 100% OP, even though some onions are cooked in the curry (they don't caramelize, so I think that's OK).

That sounds SOOO good! I have a pork roast in the crockpot today, but I am DEFINITELY picking up some chicken to make this tomorrow! It would be really good with Thai zucchini noodles (when you are sauteeing your zuke noodles, add a Tbsp of walden farms peanut spread that's been mixed with some ginger and a splash or two of Braggs Aminos pad thai sauce!).

Mimi47 01-21-2015 11:13 AM

scorbett -- getting a "noodler" today or tomorrow -- can't to try your Thai idea!

BlueFish 01-23-2015 11:42 PM

Wow....thai zucchini noodles...can someone please post a recipe of that or a link? that sounds so yummy.

I am a 36 year old mom of two, from Andhra Pradesh ( though me and my husband love and cook all types of indian cuisines). Started IP from 25th December 2014. Going good, but do miss the raitas and pickles and upmas/dosas etc. Got some more masalas to usually crockpot the veggies with them or stir fry.
Am a vegetarian, so cannot try any meat options but am using eggs or tofu for my evening protein.

Very happy to see this thread, looking forward for some desi recipes that can go on the diet. On the note of common genetics in desi women , would appreciate any tips or advice to lose weight and not put it back on after the diet is done.

disgal 01-24-2015 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scorbett1103 (Post 5121026)
It would be really good with Thai zucchini noodles (when you are sauteeing your zuke noodles, add a Tbsp of walden farms peanut spread that's been mixed with some ginger and a splash or two of Braggs Aminos pad thai sauce!).

That sounds DELISH!!! Already have some WF PS......just did a search for Pad Thai sauce and saw I can get some at the Vitamin Shoppe!!!:carrot:
Hoping to get out today so I can enjoy this recipe over the weekend!!!:D

Thx!! ;)

Mimi47 01-24-2015 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueFish (Post 5122266)
Wow....thai zucchini noodles...can someone please post a recipe of that or a link? that sounds so yummy.

I am a 36 year old mom of two, from Andhra Pradesh ( though me and my husband love and cook all types of indian cuisines). Started IP from 25th December 2014. Going good, but do miss the raitas and pickles and upmas/dosas etc. Got some more masalas to usually crockpot the veggies with them or stir fry.
Am a vegetarian, so cannot try any meat options but am using eggs or tofu for my evening protein.

BlueFish -- Have you tried playing around with grated cauliflower? Do some searches on here for recipes on how to make something like a cauliflower fried "rice" -- you can use that as a base and make it taste like upma. Also, the cauliflower "tortillas" or pancakes that you can make can taste like sort of like dosas or uttapams with the right ingredients.

This must be difficult to do as a vegetarian. My veg mother really wants to try IP, but she doesn't even eat eggs, so I don't think it's a great option for her, unfortunately. Good luck to you!

disgal and scorbett -- Got my "noodler" and now just need to get my hands on the WF peanut spread!

chipper 01-25-2015 12:49 PM

Hi BlueFish,

I made saag tofu and saag chicken this week and they came out pretty good. I blended some (like 2 oz appprox) tofu while blending the spinach for adding some depth to sub for the malai/cream and then used up 4 oz of chicken to make up the rest of the protein requirement. Just make sure to add copius amounts of ginger, garlic , cilantro and tomato and you get a pretty decent IP compliant saag chicken/tofu. I also added some oyster mushrooms to the gravy as I needed to get my veg portion in and dint want to eat another salad- frankly it dint add much to the curry. Next time I would just make saag tofu and eat with cauliflower rice. Yum!
Good luck on your journey. All that lovely dosas/rice/naan will be waiting for us on the other side when we are done with the program. We can do it!!!!!!!!!

I love this forum and the tips and tricks that folks post are what gets me motivated to get through this. Best of luck

canadjineh 04-11-2016 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seitan (Post 5252922)
I'm vegetarian and my doc said I'm not getting enough protein and recommended Indian food, especially lentils. I am curious as to how to do this on IP . Background -- I successfully lost 80 lbs with IP using the alternate methods and then gained back 20. I'd like to lose that again but really need to be more careful about protein. I am also trying to be as "whole" foods as possible and rely less on the packaged stuff although it is very helpful for snacks or quick hits. I'm looking for Phase 1 and 2 compatible Indian recipes. Many thanks!

If you are vegetarian and NOT vegan... you can use eggs, seitan as in your name, Quorn, and tofu OR you can do Alternative (diabetic style) P1 & 2 which includes low fat dairy, and beans or lentils. Try to read back a bit in this thread for some ideas and here's a couple of helpful sites for more recipe possibilities although they may need to be IP tweaked.
http://ketodietapp.com/Blog/post/201...tarian-recipes
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/sou...anslegumes.htm

I also like to use organic and gluten free "Explore Asian" black bean or soybean pastas. For a decent size serving you get 15g protein and only 5 carbs, and they are quite yummy. Here's their website with more info: http://www.explore-asian.com/

Liana

canadjineh 07-17-2017 05:50 PM

Bumping to the top of the pages for the Vegetarians among us!! Welcome to IP!
Liana

canadjineh 07-17-2017 05:53 PM

BTW, edamame is measured for Nutrition Facts in 1/2 c portions weighed as 74 grams. So 150g on your IP sheet would be a cup by weight. Other beans are heavier so probably less in your measuring cup.

Liana

canadjineh 08-07-2017 02:53 AM

Vegetarian ideas on IP
 
Re-bump for vegetarians on IP. :hun::broc:

canadjineh 11-04-2018 03:22 AM

One more bumpity bump for IP recipe nerds.

Vmoktan 11-08-2018 03:44 PM

hello all,
I am back on IP and have managed to lose 10 pounds in 16 days. Pretty excited about it. I am Indian too and use indian spices to temper the oil before I toss my veggies in ...

In 2014 I lost a total of 30 pounds and then regained it all and then some...using menopause as an excuse :D

NJ_Desi_Guy 11-09-2018 11:42 PM

I have been out for a long time.. and saw your message and was curious.. so came back online.
how are things in IP journey

canadjineh 11-10-2018 07:51 PM

Hi guys/gals! Good to see you again desi-guy! Wondered how you were doing - I'm doing ok... Up a teensy but back at it to lose about 8 lbs or so. Hop back on the train! ;)
I want to get this thread more active for yummy food ideas. IP is so generally 'whte-bread Americana' and dull, dull, dull. I must admit I check out carb counts on ethnic veggies and use the lower carb ones instead of the usual. Stuff like nopales in Mexican food, and daikon radish or bitter melon in Asian food.
Welcome to the newbies!

Lians

nIdAn 11-15-2018 04:49 PM

Gujarati?
 
Hi All,

What style of Indian food are you eating? is any of the above Gujarati?

Thanks - Vijay

canadjineh 11-16-2018 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nIdAn (Post 5374297)
Hi All,

What style of Indian food are you eating? is any of the above Gujarati?

Thanks - Vijay

I'm not sure since it's not my ethnic background, could you give us some traditional dish descriptions and maybe we can help sub non-IP compliant ingredients while still staying true to the flavours. Welcome Vijay, by the way!
Liana

CookieShine 07-13-2019 06:32 AM

I often cook soups and therefore I am looking for new recipes.

club.cooking/recipe/rasam-soup/
Now my favorite recipe is this one.

Steps
Step 1
In a heavy mortar, crush the pepper, mustard seeds, garlic and cumin seeds with salt, until the spices are fine but now powder and the garlic forms a paste.

Step 2
In a pot, sauté the onions until translucent over medium heat. Add the crushed spices, garlic and red chillis. Cook for a minute, then add turmeric and stir for 10 seconds. Add the tomato and the tamarind juice strained out. Bring to the boil and lower heat to medium. Cook for 15 minutes.

Step 3
Add half a cup water or adjust and add more if the soup is too potent. Season with salt and serve with fresh coriander.

Step 4
Serve over basmati rice, or strain and serve in mugs.

canadjineh 03-16-2021 02:33 AM

Sounds like a yummy recipe, CookieShine, but if you are doing IP, no basmati rice. You could sub fried up cauliflower rice, or use the konjac (miracle) rice. I will admit, if you like good rices, konjac rice will just NOT cut it, it's more like the tiny Italian pasta orzo. A little too chewy in texture. I hope there's some more Indian folks doing IP that can add to this thread with yummy food ideas from their cultures.
Liana (canadjineh)


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