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Bootcamp Protocol?
"Hey everyone, haven't posted for awhile. I had some questions as to what the bootcamp protocol is.
The Bootcamp Protocol is 5 packets a day instead of the 3 (or 4 depends on your weight), to replace to dinner protein. Breakfast - packet Lunch - packet + veggies + lettuce Dinner - 2 packets +veggies + lettuce Snack - packet Get in the minimum 10 glasses of water and stick to lower carb veggies. The loss you get is great. I weighed in one week and was down 8 pounds and then another week down 7.6 - and this was not at the beginning of my program, but half way through. It's good to switch it up I feel, it surprises your body and your body drops drastically, in my experience that is." Someone posted this earlier today and I was wondering what other people's experiences on this or other "bootcamp IP protocols" has been?? My weight loss is slow/stagnant so I just wanted to hear people's input on this type of protocol or other ones that may jumpstart! |
thought this was interesting so wanted to bump it up because no one responded.
do people do this? |
Originally Posted by apple7399: |
I hope some more experienced IPers will chime in - I haven't heard of this, but I am in a bit of a stall right now, and could really use a boost - but only if it is healthy and good for my weight loss goals long-term - i.e. it cannot be a quick fix that I cannot maintain.
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Originally Posted by apple7399: |
From my personal experience I wouldn't do the bootcamp. There are only 2 reason's you don't lose on this program....1. you are cheating or 2. you aren't getting in everything you need for the day.
I was on the program for 125 weeks, I just followed the program to a TEE, I didn't deviate or add anything to what wasn't on the sheet. I did have the egg whites and the WF dressings. Your body will release the weight when it chooses, you can't make it let the weight go by doing something extreme. follow the program..... Breakfast - packet Lunch - packet 2 cups of veggies Dinner - 8oz of meat and 2 more cups of veggies Snack - packet Drinks LOTS of water as well Follow the program as it is written and you will see amazing results....There are a lot of people who have had amazing result by just following the program, you can too! |
The bootcanp Protocol is one of the vegetarian options available. I have had 5 packets plus veggies for a day. I haven't tried it for a week.
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There are other, more complicated reasons for plateaus but these would be for LONG plateaus (at least 4-6 weeks with no change in scale or inches). It typically means something is out-of-whack medically, either with your thyroid or some other aspect of your endocrine system. Some of those issues are very subtle and difficult for doctors to find.
PSMF programs (like IP) can be hard on thryroid long-term (for some people more than others). A handful of us have experienced long-term plateaus. I wouldn't recommend a bootcamp-type approach to fix it because it would actually make the underlying problem WORSE. All-in-all, Wuv is right. The program works as written and there is no reason to try to tweak or hack it to work faster. You could be jeopardizing your health in trying to do so. We just need to learn some patience. We did not gain this weight overnite and it's not gonna go away in a flash, either. Suck it up and do the plan. Some weeks losses will be bigger. Some weeks they will be smaller. Some weeks they may be nonexistent. If we view every WI as a datapoint toward a goal, we will see the trendline going DOWN! Even over my plateau (and subsequent move off of P1 for several months), if I look at the trend over the entire time, I'll see a trend of DOWN. I'm no longer 260 and I'm not going back there! |
Originally Posted by wuv2bloved: |
Originally Posted by wuv2bloved: |
Originally Posted by lisa32989: |
Originally Posted by thethinwhiteduke: Can you list a typical day for us so maybe we can see exactly what you're eating? |
Originally Posted by thethinwhiteduke: |
Originally Posted by IdealProteinNewbie: breakfast: wildberry yogurt shake lunch: (my IP guy told me to have more protein so i dont lose muscle mass, maybe bad idea?) 2 cups veggies and sometimes grilled chicken (about 4-6 oz) 3pm: vanilla shake or chocolate shake 7pm: 8 oz meat, 2 cups veggies 10pm: blueberry cran granata drink |
Originally Posted by thethinwhiteduke: *Do you vary your veggies or eat the same thing everyday? *Do you ever vary your protein type? Sometimes its good to shock your body with a red meat? I usually see results on my scale after I eat red meat and vary my veggies. This week I did that and lost 4 lbs. *make sure you aren't eating too many of the restricted veggies *it's good to drink the cran granata drink because it'll help with your skin-so good move on that! |
Originally Posted by thethinwhiteduke: If so I would try cutting back to 8 oz animal protein and switch to 2 non-restricted 1 restricted packets per day. Some people need the extra carbs/sugar from the restricted. I don't see your oil listed...are you having that raw drizzled on your food? I would vary your animal protein too (chicken, fish, red meat, eggs, etc). Last question, are you measuring your meats/veggies raw before cooking? ETA: Are you exercising? How old are you? What was your starting weight and what is it now? |
Originally Posted by ems70508: |
Originally Posted by IdealProteinNewbie: im not measuring my meats/veggies raw as i mainly have to buy prepared food so i go based upon weight. should i adjust and buy less due to it being prepared? i have never really been able to figure out the appropriate amount of veggies as my guy just tells me measure about a fist but a fist of broccoli is a lot different than a fist of collard greens! and gaain, since im buying prepared foods it goes mainly on weights i am exercising. i am 34 years old and my starting weight was 297, now im at 268 but since mid november my weight has gone from 272 to 268. |
Originally Posted by thethinwhiteduke: I'm not sure you are following the protocol exactly as you should be to see the maximum results you could. I would definitely buy a food scale and measure your meat. Get that measuring cup out for your veggies. This will not only help you now but in maintenance to see what real portions look like. Can you take 1 afternoon a week and prep your food for several days. It take me an hour once a week but then I can grab and go. What prepared foods are you buying? There might be hidden carbs and sugar in them. Again, only trying to help. |
Originally Posted by IdealProteinNewbie: perhaps it would be best to prepare my foods. i live and work in midtown manhattan and most of my lunches are bought out and most of my dinners are had when im out so it is possible that things are added without me knowing. pehaps preparing in advance is a way around that, it could be tough some days but should be a big step. any suggestions for food scales? |
measuring cooked vs raw makes a big difference. Esp since something like steamed spinach can go from 2 cups to 3 small bites! For the weights of meats, if it's cooked, instead of 8 oz I'd do 6. Someone may have better experience with this but it is definitely different.
As for veggies, to me...broccoli/asparagus doesn't necessarily cook down too much but things like greens definitely do! To be safe I always measure raw but you're in a tough position. If you're buying prepared...make sure they are seasoning with salt free seasonings and that you're using your sea salt! PS water water water! |
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/stor...tegoryId=12105
here is the one I got. Nothing fancy. It measures grams or ounces |
Originally Posted by thethinwhiteduke: http://www.walmart.com/ip/The-Bigges...acity/11090896 Yes, try preparing your food for the week on Sunday night perhaps? I think it's a great investment for your time management for the next few days. Grilled a bunch of meat and separate in portions. Remember to weigh raw then divide evenly. I would have 2 non-restricted, 1 restricted, 8 oz meat, 4 cups veggies, oil, salt and water for the next few weeks and see if that doesn't push you into weigh loss mode again. |
thanks for the reminders and tips. i feel like i dont get a lot of useful information from my coach unfortunately, just the packets.
bought a scale, will try measuring things out PRE-COOKED and making portions for the whole week |
Originally Posted by thethinwhiteduke: |
Good luck and congrats on the wedding! Many people have trouble with coaches and use this site for the support they need! Keep coming back for great recipes/support so that you don't get stuck in a rut!
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I only have a couple suggestions: (these might have been addressed before so if I am duplicating I am sorry):
1. If you find the need to get prepared meat, reduce it down. 8 oz of raw ground turkey for instance is going to cook down a bit. Probably an ounce or two (I remember somebody posting that before but for the life of me I can't remember where). You can probably google it. 2. Don't eat more than 8 oz. of protein a day. If you need to break that up to have some at lunch, then do. Since I have started I have eaten anywhere from 1/4 to 1/2 of my protein at lunch. 3. Boiled eggs are a good easy thing to prep in advance. I count one egg as 2 oz of protein. 4. Prepping your veggies/meats is a great suggestion, I do that and it doesn't take very long and makes it very easy. Make sure to get all your oil, salt, vitamins and water in EVERY day. You're doing super. |
ems: Go girl! You're doing so well!
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IPN thanks! As are you!
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I was told not to eat after 8pm. So I do not. I noticed you are. Might try changing up when you are eating things.
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Does this protocol really work for people. How often should this be done?
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Not often...more as a last resort under the watchful eye of a health professional.
Certainly not for anyone just starting out |
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