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Not sure if you meant this for me, but I am guessing so. Welcome! I am glad I started, too, even if it was the first week of school! :dizzy: Good luck with your progress. Keep us posted on how you're doing. Renee |
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I started August 30th and quickly lost 5 lbs. Then, only 0.6 to 1 lb. each week thereafter. No, I am not a cheater...have been painfully compliant. My goal is to lose 15 post-menopausal pounds that won't budge.
Week 1: coach told me to eat more meat (I ate only about 4 oz at dinner), by adding 4 oz to lunch. Did that. Week 2: coach told me to stop drinking my daily 3-4 c. green tea. Did that. Week 3: coach told me my allergy meds must be to blame (seriously??). Suggested that I add 8 oz ham or 4 eggs to daily breakfast. I am high cholesterol already, so not taking that advice. Added 8 oz. Fage 0% plain yogurt instead. Before IP I ate yogurt and cheese, nuts and legumes, rice, tons of veggies, small portions of meat, plus 1 glass of wine per day. There's carbs, but it's relatively clean eating, yes? Question: Wouldn't simply giving up entire categories of alcohol, dairy, legumes, fats, sugars and starches alone lead to more weight loss than this? Do you have any insights about this? :eek: |
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Week 1 you weren't eating the 8oz of meat, only 4oz. Week 2, you were having up to 4 cups of green tea a day (IP allows for 1 cup coffee/tea a day), and now Week 3 you are eating yogurt. P1 is very precisely laid out. BF = 1 pack, Lunch = 1 pack + 2 cups allowed veggies, Supper = 8oz protein + 2 cups allowed veggies, Snack = 1 pack. Are you eating restricted packets? IP has allowed for 1 restricted a day. Make sure you are drinking ALL of your recommended water, using your salt, and even taking shots of 1-2tsp of olive oil/grape seed oil a day (not just cooking with it). Try strictly adhering to protocol and see if that makes any changes. |
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Since I've been 100% OP, I asked my coach if there was anything I could tweak/change to hopefully boost my loss next time. She looked through my food journal and suggested I eat less red meat - more fish and chicken. Check! She also suggested I start adding some activity/exercise at least 3 days per week (I've remained very sedentary) to rev my metabolism. Check! So, took the dog for a walk when I got home, and am dusting off my treadmill and plan to get back to using that thing! Dinner - just had 2 fish (cod) tacos for dinner made with Potato Puree tortillas, shredded cabbage, 1/4 c chopped tomato and hot sauce. I'd forgotten how easy it was to make fish using my small George Foreman grill! 5 min start to finish, and perfectly flaky! So, increased activity and sticking with fish and chicken for now. Hope to see a boost next week! But even if I continue with slower weekly losses, as long as I know I'm doing everything I can, I'll be fine with it. I'll still go to sleep every night dreaming of reaching goal and knowing it WILL be reality! :carrot::carrot::carrot: |
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The coach said to add in the yogurt--I guess it is a modification or "alternative" protocol they offer if you get stuck. She gave me a preprinted sheet that offers a choice of adding 1 fruit a day or 1 dairy a day...I chose dairy. First coach told me tea or coffee is OK as long as I added 8 oz of water for each caffeinated beverage, which I did. Last coach told me just stop the tea--green, black, herbal, all off limits. Started with Bars for Restricted item. Last week coach said replace Bars with Peach-Mango drink to increase the protein. Now: 0 Restricted. Hadn't heard about shots of olive oil...am using my oil quota on salads (?) Have you ever done Atkins? Atkins Phase 1 gets to ketosis with high protein, but allows dairy as well a similar list of meat/veggies for its Phase 1. I may switch to that since I'm already in a no-carb, no alcohol, no caffeine zone and Atkins doesn't require as much meat guzzling. I'm 5'7 and started at 156 lbs. Goal = 140 lbs, or BMI around 21. It should be a do-able amount of weight in a 4-6 weeks, but so far it is dropping ever so slow. |
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Yes, just this week switched to "alternative." It's not much different...added 1 serving/day of yogurt, that's the only change.
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So I've been relaxing since I got home from work chatting on FB. Made a vanilla drink and stuck it in the freezer to get a bit colder. I forgot it :dizzy: now it's frozen guess I'll be using a spoon!
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Bigger initial losses are usually associated with someone having a larger amount to lose. (although every one is different and sometimes even those folks don't see quick losses even in the beginning) Thyroid problems, age, activity level and previous diet history also seem to affect how fast people lose. Although, I CAN say, extreme carb sensitivity appears to be a problem most of us who have been successful on this diet share. Even a few extras slow us down. It is all about the glycemic index of what we are eating. Given that your first few weeks had a few misunderstandings in how you proceeded and your compliance attempts were not 100% , why we're you put on alternate? Was there a health reason? If not, you may want to dialog this with your coach because your initial P 1 days were not according to how the rest of the folks here are complying. Being new on the program ... And not following the standard sheet 100%....and seeing slow start, isn't the same thing as "stuck. Stuck is what some see after a much longer time frame following the protocol. You were just warming up! |
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Louie...You may wnat to see if you can switch to another coach for a few weeks if that is an option...I think many of us on this board feel your coaching has possibly not followed the IP protocol and misled you. Even slightly, with a small amount to lose, will upset how this works. Best of luck! |
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Here is another situation where we are all so different but I've definitely seen the shorter girls slow more at the end (guessing this has much to do with BMR) My stall/slowdown is probably mostly due to health problems. I developed hypothyroid ON IP (many people do temporarily but mine didn't go away). Thyroid out-of-whack sends other hormones & neurotransmitters of-of-whack which slows metabolism. I also have chronic inflammation due to a chronic back condition and was treated with oral steroids back in April. My losses have not been the same since. I cycled p2, p3 once before & lost about 6 lbs after returning to P1. This was a last-ditch effort plan to help my metabolism (thyroid, coritsol) by giving it carbs for a few weeks. Immediately I slept better and wasn't struggling with being cold all the time, so even tho I don't have tests to confirm, observational data told me I was doing the right thing for my hormones. I was planning on doing p1 until Halloween and then taking a longer "break" (just from P1, not from IP) until January & get all testing completed in Dec to see how I am recovering (thyroid and cortisol markers). But if this move back to P1 helps me drop more weight, I may cycle through again, rather than test my patience with waiting to get to goal. 150 is only my "first" goal. I bet I'd be happier at 140 but we'll just have to see. I could also get to 150 and then use exercise/body sculpting to get me closer to how I want to look without losing the last 10 lbs (the whole muscle/fat thing) - hey, if the measurements change, I won't care so much what the scale says! There are other ways to address true stalls - at least 4 weeks of no movement on scale or measuring tape (but more like 6 for a TRUE stallO such as bootcamp (a coach would guide you for that). When my slowdown/stall problems could be easily blamed on health issues, my coach (who is not a medical professional) really couldn't help. She suggested bootcamp but I knew that would be HARDER on my thyroid, not better. |
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I quoted a lot here to address. 1. If you are making mistakes - not following the protocol due to lack of understanding, it is still a "cheat" although unintentional. 2. wtih 16 lbs to lose, you will not lose as fast as someone with 60, 70, 80 lbs to lose. 3. For some people, even small modifications make a BIG difference so I understand the no caffeine teas. I have NEVER heard someone being told not to have herbal teas containing no decaf. 4. If you are putting the EVOO directly on your salad, you are getting the "shot" of olive oil. Some people have found that just cooking with it causes stalls b/c we don't absorb it all. Use your cooking spray for cooking and put the oil directly on your food. 5. Switching to the alternate protocol would SLOW losses. It is for people with health problems who should not reach ketosis. And only adding yogurt once/day is NOT the alt protocol. It involves adding dairy, fruit, and grain once per day EACH. So, for example, dairy to breakfast, fruit to lunch and grain to dinner. Were you given the protocol sheet for this? 6. It looks like your coach was suggesting having your biggest meal at breakfast, instead of dinner (the eggs/ham). This is a common diet hack. Not sure how well it really works. I'm guessing differently for different people. I encourage you to do some reading about cholesterol. It is well known that dietary cholesterol intake does NOT increase serum cholesterol. In fact, the most recent research blames CARB INTAKE more than dietary cholesterol for increasing markers for heart disease (c-reactive protein is the inflammation marker the best doctors are now using, rather than cholesterol) 7. Adding yogurt instead INCREASED your carb intake. This is counter-productive on IP. Additionally, fat-free yogurt has MORE carbs than higher fat versions 8. I did Atkins and lost a lot of weight about 10 years ago. Atkins is NOT like IP. It is also pretty meat-heavy but it is also much higher fat. IP works better for me because the guidelines are much clearer. 9. I suggest you pick one plan and stick to it. From what you reported, you have NOT followed the P1 protocol with strict adherence yet. If slowdowns are due to user error, the diet cannot be blamed. If the plan you choose is IP, stick to the P1 sheet like glue. If it is not on there, don't have it. If it is on there, eat it (example: 1 restricted/day) your coach has you bouncing all around trying different things different weeks, how can you know what works? 10. Weight loss isn't linear. We wont lost 2.1 lbs every week (or whatever number). If you are going to an out-of-date coach who made the 3-5 lbs/week claim, know that was DISCONTINUED BY IDEAL PROTEIN. I guess some coaches never got that memo. Average losses for women are more like 2-3/week. If you average your WL so far, that is exactly where you are falling. |
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I am also hypothryoid, but mine developed 23 years ago -- and sorry to hear about your back. Still stalls/plateaus are so frustrating. But I agree with your tact of health first. On the bright side you are down 100 pounds and I am SURE you feel much better than you did at that higher weight. So kudos to you for getting this far! |
Good morning all! WI2 today - down 5 lbs!!! WOOT! I bought the Omicron scale,(Amazon, $69 including shipping), set it up this am, weighed myself and did all the measurements, then went to my coach and snapped a pic of my journal so I can track at home and at the clinic. I lost muscle last week, starting to come back but coach says I can hit the gym after I complete week 3. Pre IP, I was in the gym 3 times a week with a personal trainer weight lifting so really itching to get back.
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Good Morning Everyone! My kids are here visiting this week :hug::hug:, so I am one happy Mom!! :carrot::carrot: We will be having a BBQ at another son's house later today and I am prepared! I think I mentioned before that they eat Paleo, so that it right up my alley with the protein and veggies! I wanted to make something Paleo, but 'carby' for the other folks who will be there (I will not have this but I liked making it!) - so I made a sweet potato waldorf salad! Cooked, cubed sweet potatoes, apples, dried cranberries, celery, red onion, walnuts, and the dressing is mayo (lower fat, and made with olive oil) and a squeeze of lemon. This will later be something I can have in maintenance I think! Sure looks out of this world! Also made some sautéed red, yellow, green peppers to serve with the low fat turkey Italian sausage (coach approved) on the grill. Only thing missing was cooking the onions with the peppers, but thought it could do without, and that way I can have them! Will be lots of other good veggies available too. So, I'm hoping for smooth sailing! Have a great Saturday everyone!
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It was meant for you. I'm new here and still trying to figure out how things work! I hope things are still going well for you. Corey |
Another inch lost!
I'm down 16" total now (8" off my waist, 4.5" off my hips, and 3.5" off my bust) -- pretty amazing for only 61 days. It's almost shocking that those numbers average out to about 1/4" total lost per day (off 3 measurements) ... or 1" (off 3 measurements) every 4 days. You could almost do some sort of time lapse photography to capture that in movie form. Even more mind-blowing (to me at least) is I am losing 1" off my waistline every 8 days (or 4" off my waistline a month). WOW, this just doesn't seem possible. If I didn't see this with my own eyes and own tape measure, I might not have believed it either. |
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It IS pretty amazing to see how quickly there are visible results with IP. The last couple of days I've really had the urge to munch on something between meals. When you're on a plan that gives losses of 0.5 lbs a week or so, it's easy to rationalize that a cheat won't really slow you down that much . . . but (for me, anyway), IP is different and I was unwilling to cheat so I just plain DIDN'T. NSV! Keep up the great work! |
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Just had a NSV! Put on one of my favorite t-shirts (from the Viva Las Vegas Rockabilly Weekend!) and like most of my t-shirts, it's a 2X, and I usually have to pull and fuss to get the tummy stretched out enough so I don't feel like it's clinging to my fat. Today there was no pulling and it's loose in the tummy! Yay!! |
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I just gave away my last one yesterday...I was saving it for a friend who came to visit...oh wait. I have 2 I still sleep in...good sleep shirts now. I have gone from 2x t shirts to large (currently). I could probably squeeze a medium but it would cling more than I'm comfortable with at this point. |
Thanks for your input. Helps to benefit from your experiences. So far in one month I lost 7 pounds so I am glad for that and feel good. (Note to self: those were 7 expensive pounds.) I guess I went into this with expectations that were different than the actual outcome.
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Good Morning Augusters and Everyone!! Had a fabulous weekend with my kids. Had a BBQ on Saturday, and went out to dinner last night. 100% OP without any problem. It is simply a mindset. Hardest thing was getting all of my packets and water in, but managed to do that too. A great start to the week! Have a great Monday everyone!
PS - Augusters, if you haven't checked in for awhile, but sure to let us know how you are doing! We are all here for each other!! :hug: |
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We travelled out to Eastern Washington to see our son in college. He is begging me for more home baked goods since he is having a hard time keeping weight ON due to his workout schedule. So today my challenge is to make him all the goodies and not touch. I have found a big bowl of hot soapy water helps - it is always nearby and I quickly dunk anything tempting into there when I am done with spoons, mixing bowls, beaters, whatever. No sense tempting fate. This week I hope things calm down. I will get outside and rake and chop up limbs that fell in the huge wind storm we are having. So happy it came along, right after I had just swept and raked earlier this week. It's OK, the exercise is good for me and more fun than walking! Hang in there August IP'ers! The more support we have for each other, the more fun and more effective this program will be. |
Good morning all! Checking in :D
Guess what ?!? My scale says 170! I won't be official until my weigh in on Thursday but I'm sooooo happy to finally see that! I got to sleep in a it since the other carpool mom drove the kids today. Boy that was nice! Now it's off to brew a cup of coffee and think about getting ready for work. My Saints are on MnF tonight so WHO DAT! |
Good morning August friends!! My scale said 158 this morning!!! I have not been in the 150s for years so I am very excited. My weigh in is tonight so I am very much hoping that my coach's scale is in the 150s, then it becomes official! The scale has definitely slowed down but it's still moving. The diet has become easier for me. I know what I like and I make sure to have it on hand. Have not cheated even once!!!!! Never said that on a diet before!! Love having so many in our group that started at the same time. It really helps me to see everyone's progress. Go get em!!
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Good morning! Had a tough day Sunday in the yard, lots of planting, mowing, weeding, digging up and moving stuff around, feel like I've been beaten with a baseball bat!! So tired, I went to bed at 9:30! I didn't eat lettuce yesterday, ran out and just had no opportunity to go to the store. I figure the lettuce is mainly for fiber to prevent "C" which hasn't been a problem so far. Does that make sense? I had 2 Quest bars this weekend as alternatives, they were sooooo good, and so much better than the IP - are we ABSOLUTELY sure they're OP? Treating them as restricted. Have a great day all, stick to it, you'll be glad you did!
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I just joined up today. I left my job a couple months ago to stay home with my little ones and have packed on 10lbs. I'm much more active now than I was at the office. Unfortunately, I'm so busy I don't really have time to sit and eat until afternoon nap time. Then I demolish everything in sight!!
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I haven't gotten the results in the past two weeks that I desired. I know that last week because I was on liquids, I was at the low low end but still things seem a bit stuck.
Now, Lisa, before you worry about my attitude, I am actually Ok, practicing patience...BUT I was so excited today when I happened to pass a full length mirror in our guest room (heavens know I would never have one in MY room before!) The lady I saw in the mirror had a waist and NO bulging stomach. If I saw her walking down the street, I would not see any warped physical shape - even my back view was improving! So I know that is why I will just hang in there, strong. I am just waiting for another shopping in my closet day - maybe when I break 230. |
My first NSV today that I can think of - I was on the phone, and had to tinkle. In my hurry to go I pulled my pants down without thinking. I looked down and realized that they had a button and zipper!! I was able to pull them right off!
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