Thank you! And WOW, that's a lot of fat! Reminds me of the recent posts with garlic and how its such a huge no-no (except used sparingly as a spice)!

Hi, Molly. Thanks for the link and information about Doctors Best. Can you give suggestions on products you tried and liked? The website is great but I would love to get tips on what was good and what wasn't.

Thanks a bunch!

Sent you a PM.

I know that dairy is a general no-go on the IP phase 1 sheet, but has anyone else wondered if plain fat-free Greek yogurt could be an acceptable unrestricted alternative? 6 oz. is 100 cal, 0 fat, 18g protein, and 7 carbs, but all sugar (lactose). Any thoughts?

I just restarted on alternatives, and was hoping to find some stuff that I can just buy at the grocery store. Love everyone's suggestions in this thread. I've been okay so far with the proti diet alternatives ordered off Amazon.com.

Unfortunately, no. I believe it is because of the sugars.

IP has soy nuts (BBQ or Garlic & Onion) and soy puffs (lemon, peanut, chocolate). The nuts are not puffs and are very similar to those generally available, but I have not compared the nutritional labels.

IP does have soy nuts. Scorbett is talking about soy puffs. I use soy nuts from the health food store but carefully read the label, then measure and per package them! I measured an IP silver packet of sit nuts first to know.

Just tried the creamy vegetable soup by proti diet - yum!!!

I am aware of that - however the soy nuts from IP are NOT whole roasted soy nuts, the fat content is much too low. The OP was referring to whole roasted soy nuts.

Hello!
Newbie here. Planning to start IP on January 2nd. I would like to use a few alternatives in addition to regular IP packets. Has anyone tried the Pizza from ProtiDiet? Has anyone used Body Fortress protein powder rather than the chocolate drink and seen the same results?

I know of several people who tried the ProtiDiet pizza, it's definitely fine to use just treat it as a restricted item.

Re: Body fortress, the Whey Isolate is the one closest nutritionally to IP, but be very careful as one scoop is MUCH higher in protein than IP products (IP is 15-18g protein, one scoop of that is 30g). In the case of high protein diets, more is NOT necessarily better - you would actually get the equivalent of TWO packets of protein with one scoop, but not enough calories or other nutrients to equal two packets.

RE: IP soy nuts... In helping my mother plan IP alternatives, and using a lot of them myself, I have been substituting 1 ounce/28 g of soy nuts for the IP soy nuts.

According to the ingredients label, the IP Soy Nuts consist of just soy beans, oil and seasoning (with ironically, real sugar!)
http://www.plainprotein.com/snacks/g...nion-soy-nuts/
http://www.plainprotein.com/snacks/bbq-soy-nuts/

The IP soy nuts have 60 calories from fat, 3 g of sugar and the protein levels aren't as high as many of the other snacks (11 g) ... Not really sure why they are IP-approved, but they are! They cost $27 for ~7 ounces. So if you were going to use these, and wanted to save money, seems like it would be OK to substitute. Though maybe treat it as a restricted because of the fat and sugar?

I tried the ProtiDiet pizza based on reviews I read here. It's pretty darn good! I roll it out very thin so I can pile it high with veggies. I pre-cook the crust before adding the sauce and pre-cook the veggies. Also I have been adding spinach puree to the sauce mix - turns a really bizarre color but is so delicious. Hope you like it!

i know past threads love the pure protein bars, but they are a NEGATIVE for me

When figuring out carb couts for an alternative, do you subtract sugar alcohols? I'm thinking of using Detour bars with lower sugar. Here's the break down. Thanks for your help, in advance!

Total Carb 17g
Fiber = 2g
Sugars = 1g
Sugar Alcohol = 14g

Net carb = 1g??