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Ishbel 06-12-2012 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Cadu (Post 4368272)
Ishbel how are you doing in maintenance? Is it hard to find the balance? I am very nervous about maintenance and being able to keep the weight off. Even though I have been eating the phase 1 way for 4 months I still look at it as a diet and that it will end and I will be able to eat again later. That thinking has kept me op this long. but now that I am nearing goal I feel I better change my attitude to keep this weight off in fear of going back to my old eating habits.

Wow, how to respond to that (and this being only my fourth week)...hmmm...it's scarey, it's a rollercoaster of emotions getting used to NOT seeing the scale move down while knowing you're done and it's ok. It's a "HOLY SMACKERS" (ok I different words) when the scale goes up after your first cheat day (you're not suppose to weigh until after the Phase 1 day, I'm like a little kid with a hot stove). And then you see it go back down again...I'm feeling good, or at least I'm feeling a groove.

I used to think I'd float between 165-170...but I feel WAY more in control when I start the day between 159-163. This morning I'm 161. I don't dislike that I'm emotionally attached to my scale (some people are), I track what I eat 5 days of the week on 'my net diary' and I'm seeing a trend of calories between 1300 - 1800ish (depending on whether I excersise or not). I don't track cheat day (I pay attention to what I choose though) or Phase 1 day. I'm not eating the packets unless it's a PH1 day or a bar right after excersise. I do not have issues nor have I ever had issues with the bars so having two strawberry wafers in my cupboard is 'ok' to me, I get them when I run (that simple).

I like having snacks at night, I choose fruit....I could eat fruit all day but I only have it in the morning (still having Ph3 brekkies) and for a snack (with fat free greek yogurt) in the evening (almost like a dessert). Spending a year on a high protein diet, I prefer some protein at night so I don't go to bed hungry.

Maintenance has rules too and I'm finding comfort in those rules (keeping carbs and fats seperate, fun days, phase 1 days), it's just that what you can eat might not be what I can eat. So it's a self discovery. My first fun day was a little overboard :D, I refused to tell my coach what I ate...but lets just say I had such a sugar crash that I fell asleep on new carpet in the middle of a renovation LMAO. I felt like crap...BUT...I wouldn't change that day for the world cause it reminded me of what I used to feel like AND I hardly ate as much as I used to...and I had all these things I hadn't had for a YEAR. And, two days of Phase 1 took it off, apparently I didn't need to do Phase 1 for two days but it was ok if it made me feel better (lol). Now, I take it much slower, because if you eat everything in sight then you don't know what your body is complaining about.

Ie, two weekends ago I had a chilled out fun day little of this little of that, this past weekend, I was at my sister's 40th bday party. I had two shots and two drinks (with splenda ginger ale) and really I pooped out...and I remember thinking "yup, my drug of choice is food". I was never really a drinker but I was a party girl (when I partied, I partied hard)...and four drinks make me go to bed?? Needless to say the VIP said "it's not a bad thing you know" lol

I don't know if you pay attention to the maintainers thread, but I posted yesterday about dreading my Phase 1 day...I do, right now if I think about it I'm like "blech"...but then right after a fun day you're "THANK GAWD FOR PHASE 1"...cause your rings don't fit right, you feel gross, bloated etc etc and it's just nice to eat 'light'.

I just purchased tickets to Scotland end of August, two weeks full of Scottish treats and no scale :(...BUT I'm already mentally preparing myself for one to two weeks of Phase 1 when I get back to fix whatever happens, if I want to stay where I am, I must fix it.

Maintenance is a mental game just like Phase 1...so technically it's not much different. Your issues are managed in Phase 1, you just have to keep managing them (cause ultimately they never go away right?).

Wow, long post...sorry. Hope that helps?

rainbowsmiles 06-12-2012 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mompattie (Post 4368092)
It's likely postural hypotension. Low blood pressure when getting up, certainly more noticeable when you go from bed to standing. I would say get up slowly to see if that helps, and definately make sure our getting your daily sea salt. If it doesn't go away check with your care provider.

thanks for the info above...this happens to me all the time, for the last 2-3 years or so and i never knew what it was....so i looked it up and you are correct!! i wonder if it is worse in people who tend to have lower BP like me?

Ishbel 06-12-2012 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rainbowsmiles (Post 4368532)
thanks for the info above...this happens to me all the time, for the last 2-3 years or so and i never knew what it was....so i looked it up and you are correct!! i wonder if it is worse in people who tend to have lower BP like me?

Take a big breath when you get up as well, I have this same issue and learned the big breath trick from my yoga instructor.

Busymomx4 06-12-2012 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by wuv2bloved (Post 4368149)
I just love seeing who everyone is with their pics....its great putting faces with words and names...Thanks for all who post their pics :)

Just wanted to say good morning and HOLLY CRAP wuv...you sure are looking skinny :)

Ishbel 06-12-2012 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by wuv2bloved (Post 4368149)
I just love seeing who everyone is with their pics....its great putting faces with words and names...Thanks for all who post their pics :)

WOW, look at those collarbones! :)

LSJ100 06-12-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn Energy (Post 4365975)
Yes mom this site is a daily addiction for me. Its so great to be able to come here and see what others are doing, and what they are going through as im the only one in my house on the program, so no one to talk to about it at home. However...my wife thinks im a weirdo talking to people i dont know on the internet haha. She calls it my diet porn...

My husband teases me to - I talk about what people have said here and how they are doing all the time to him. He is glad I have the support though!

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Originally Posted by ptod (Post 4366040)
The times I burnt kale chips my oven was too hot, the kale was a bit too wet or I ripped the kale too small. I found the secret was lower heat and longer time in the oven. There are times that a few 'chips' aren't totally crispy, but that is ok. Since all ovens are different (I use electric ovens), it may take a few small batches to zero in on perfection - plus you can still eat the rejects. ;)

I could also swing by and give you a hand - I am a cheap date so payment could be in zucchini chips. They are my other veggie addiction. :D

btw - is eating burnt kale chips bad???

Keep trying and post about your results. The group should be able to help you dial it in.

Thanks for the tips - I can assure you I have eaten them burnt every time and nearly licked the bowl so no harm done, but I can imagine liking them even more if they are a little less charred! I'll keep you posted on my quest for the perfect kale chip!

So, I have a question for you guys out there and anyone who is doing this with their husbands or sons (Cadu?)...my husband for the first time expressed interest in IP last night...he is really impressed with my weight loss and he was just told by his doctor he needs to take some weight off. However, he is afraid if he follows the same protocol as me he will starve. He said if he could have extra animal protein if he got hungry it seems more realistic to him...he would be doing alternatives as he has no interest in driving to a clinic, I could be his coach, and he would prefer to save money and is freaked out by what he calls "IP space food packets"....anyone who has any tips or suggestions or maybe a sample day on P1 for a guy (my DH is 6'2" and 320 lbs) that would be great!

LizRR 06-12-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cadu (Post 4368272)
Ishbel how are you doing in maintenance? Is it hard to find the balance? I am very nervous about maintenance and being able to keep the weight off. Even though I have been eating the phase 1 way for 4 months I still look at it as a diet and that it will end and I will be able to eat again later. That thinking has kept me op this long. but now that I am nearing goal I feel I better change my attitude to keep this weight off in fear of going back to my old eating habits.

Cadu - I have the same attitude regarding this being temporary that's been getting me through OP so far (we are SOOOOO IP twins!) and the same apprehension as far as 'life after Phase 1'. Thanks for the response Ishbel!

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Originally Posted by Ravenswood2012 (Post 4368465)
My question is... Is WF only to be used on "occasion" and/or treats? Even though it is 0/0/0 ~ It makes the drinks sooooooo good it's making me nervous :?

My coach advised me to try and keep the '0/0/0 extras' (Miracle Noodles, Walden Farms, Splenda/Stevia, etc) at 6 servings/day or less - which is really just keeping it in moderation. Splenda & WF at least, have ~4calories/~.9carbs per serving - so not truly "zero" (barely squeak by the FDA labeling rules), but I use them daily and they make this "diet" so flavorful!

I did have one friend who I saw put in >15 packets of Splenda into 1 cup of coffee! She admitted it was super crazy and said it was a 'Persian thing', but WHOA, that is an example of 'anti-moderation' using extras! She was not on IP...but I guess that was better than using sugar!

Busymomx4 06-12-2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by LSJ100 (Post 4368572)
So, I have a question for you guys out there and anyone who is doing this with their husbands or sons (Cadu?)...my husband for the first time expressed interest in IP last night...he is really impressed with my weight loss and he was just told by his doctor he needs to take some weight off. However, he is afraid if he follows the same protocol as me he will starve. He said if he could have extra animal protein if he got hungry it seems more realistic to him...he would be doing alternatives as he has no interest in driving to a clinic, I could be his coach, and he would prefer to save money and is freaked out by what he calls "IP space food packets"....anyone who has any tips or suggestions or maybe a sample day on P1 for a guy (my DH is 6'2" and 320 lbs) that would be great!

That's great! My dh did it but he used alternative (shakes and bars from walmart which were very similar to IP products) but since he was diabetic, he used the alternative protocol which i think would be good for your husband to start with and then see how he goes. My dh lost 30lbs in 9weeks. My son is doing it too now but since he's 13, i modify it a bit to fit his needs better but he's now lost 10lbs in 3 weeks.

Cadu 06-12-2012 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Meadow Wheeler (Post 4368318)
Cadu...your newest profile picture is WOW! You are looking great too!!!

Thanks Meadow. :)

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Originally Posted by Darralyn (Post 4368442)

Amen to that one! I do not want to go back to the past eating habits more than anything! I was super depressed when food was controlling me and have been so much happier having control on this program (except the bars lol). Love you and wish you the very best!! You are such an inspiration. :hug:

We can beat this Darralyn. Love you too, I have to say, I think you are the sweetest lady I have ever had the priviledge to know.:hug:


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Originally Posted by Ishbel (Post 4368477)
Wow, how to respond to that (and this being only my fourth week)...hmmm...it's scarey, it's a rollercoaster of emotions getting used to NOT seeing the scale move down while knowing you're done and it's ok.

Thanks so much for taking the time to post that. I knew life after goal was gonna be scarey .. lol. It sounds like you are getting the hang of it and it is all kinda trial & error.
I guess I was hoping (even though I knew better) that it would be easier then that to eat healthy and be able to keep the weight off once you hit goal but I guess if we dont work at it, we will end up right back where we were. It is a little depressing to think that I will have to follow some sort of "program" for the rest of my life if I want to be thin & healthy but I will do what is nessacery. I have not read the maintenance thread, maybe I will pop in and check it out. Thanks again for sharing your experience.
oh and your vacation sounds wonderful... I am jealous :D

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Originally Posted by LSJ100 (Post 4368572)
So, I have a question for you guys out there and anyone who is doing this with their husbands or sons (Cadu?)...my husband for the first time expressed interest in IP last night...he is really impressed with my weight loss and he was just told by his doctor he needs to take some weight off. However, he is afraid if he follows the same protocol as me he will starve. He said if he could have extra animal protein if he got hungry it seems more realistic to him...he would be doing alternatives as he has no interest in driving to a clinic, I could be his coach, and he would prefer to save money and is freaked out by what he calls "IP space food packets"....anyone who has any tips or suggestions or maybe a sample day on P1 for a guy (my DH is 6'2" and 320 lbs) that would be great!

LSJ my son is doing great on the program. He has 4 packets of alternative products per day along with the 4 C's of veg, 8 oz meat, water, oil, etc. After the 1st week he says he is not hungry. He has lost about 30 pounds in 5 weeks. I know that USMCVET was doing either 4 or 5 packets.

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Originally Posted by LizRR (Post 4368573)
Cadu - I have the same attitude regarding this being temporary that's been getting me through OP so far (we are SOOOOO IP twins!) and the same apprehension as far as 'life after Phase 1'. Thanks for the response Ishbel!

It is scarey Liz but to be honest, the alternative (being fat, sick and miserable) is scarier. I think we need to start changing our attitudes girl.

Darralyn 06-12-2012 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadu (Post 4368763)
Thanks Meadow. :)



We can beat this Darralyn. Love you too, I have to say, I think you are the sweetest lady I have ever had the priviledge to know.:hug:

Aww that is the nicest thing anyone could say! I think the same of you!! With your help and the rest of this group we can both make it and we WILL! :hug:



LSJ my son is doing great on the program. He has 4 packets of alternative products per day along with the 4 C's of veg, 8 oz meat, water, oil, etc. After the 1st week he says he is not hungry. He has lost about 30 pounds in 5 weeks. I know that USMCVET was doing either 4 or 5 packets.
I am so happy he is doing so well! That makes you feel better than your own success doesn't it!!!

It is scarey Liz but to be honest, the alternative (being fat, sick and miserable) is scarier. I think we need to start changing our attitudes girl.

We all are going to change our atitudes we are going to do whatever it takes and keep the eating monster at bay!!

rainbowsmiles 06-12-2012 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Darralyn (Post 4368812)
We all are going to change our atitudes we are going to do whatever it takes and keep the eating monster at bay!!

AMEN!!!!!!!!! :hug::hug:

love your newest picture....you look SO HAPPY!!! what an amazing smile!!

Ishbel 06-12-2012 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadu (Post 4368763)
Thanks so much for taking the time to post that. I knew life after goal was gonna be scarey .. lol. It sounds like you are getting the hang of it and it is all kinda trial & error.
I guess I was hoping (even though I knew better) that it would be easier then that to eat healthy and be able to keep the weight off once you hit goal but I guess if we dont work at it, we will end up right back where we were. It is a little depressing to think that I will have to follow some sort of "program" for the rest of my life if I want to be thin & healthy but I will do what is nessacery. I have not read the maintenance thread, maybe I will pop in and check it out. Thanks again for sharing your experience.
oh and your vacation sounds wonderful... I am jealous :D

If you look at it as a program, it will be a program. I look at it as a way of life and the way I eat right now, if I want something during the week, say 'fries' (ie on Fridays when we go out for lunch), I think "ok, so you can have them, is today your free day or do you want to wait" and I wait...then on Saturday I have way better plans then 'fries' LOL. I love structure though, apparently if you put me in a little box of rules I thrive. So I'm ok with structure...I spent one year on Phase 1, I don't know how I did it (ok I do, it's called one day or one hour or one minute at a time)...but I do not EVER want to do one year again.

If I go back to what I was, I will be what I was. I don't want to be what I was, I want to be what I am.

mompattie 06-12-2012 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ishbel (Post 4368838)

If I go back to what I was, I will be what I was. I don't want to be what I was, I want to be what I am.

BEST quote EVER!! You are soo true. Go back to old eating habits and be fat. NOT. EVER. I'm in this until the end.

Ishbel 06-12-2012 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mompattie (Post 4368862)
BEST quote EVER!! You are soo true. Go back to old eating habits and be fat. NOT. EVER. I'm in this until the end.

I just made that one as I typed - I should put "Ishbel" behind it, or me. Even I was like "ooo, that's slightly profound" when I re-read it. HAHAHA :p

Cadu 06-12-2012 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ishbel (Post 4368838)
If you look at it as a program, it will be a program. I look at it as a way of life and the way I eat right now, if I want something during the week, say 'fries' (ie on Fridays when we go out for lunch), I think "ok, so you can have them, is today your free day or do you want to wait" and I wait...then on Saturday I have way better plans then 'fries' LOL. I love structure though, apparently if you put me in a little box of rules I thrive. So I'm ok with structure...I spent one year on Phase 1, I don't know how I did it (ok I do, it's called one day or one hour or one minute at a time)...but I do not EVER want to do one year again.

If I go back to what I was, I will be what I was. I don't want to be what I was, I want to be what I am.

Thats a great way to look at it. It is a way of life. My attitude must change. I am working on it. ;)


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