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icess64 03-01-2011 10:02 AM

Joint Pain??
 
I started IP on Tuesday of last week, and although everything has been going great and I think I'm right on track, my left hip started hurting really badly when I walk. Walking up and down stairs doesn't hurt, but normal walking is super painful.

Of course, this could be unrelated to the diet, but I've never had pain in my hip like this before...I don't know if I'm deficient in something and need to start taking a supplement. I'm thinking of taking Glucosamine/ Chondroitin in addition to the fish oil/Omega3 I just started.

Has anyone experienced this after starting the diet, and did anything help? I'm a RN, so spend 12 hours a day 3x/week walking non-stop and this pain has been making my job even more rough than it already is! Plus I chase a toddler on my days off, so I want this pain gone. I'm going to try the chiropractor too, since I know my alignment is off, but I've not experienced anything like this when my alignment has been out of whack in the past.

rulemom 03-01-2011 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by icess64 (Post 3736230)
I started IP on Tuesday of last week, and although everything has been going great and I think I'm right on track, my left hip started hurting really badly when I walk. Walking up and down stairs doesn't hurt, but normal walking is super painful.

Of course, this could be unrelated to the diet, but I've never had pain in my hip like this before...I don't know if I'm deficient in something and need to start taking a supplement. I'm thinking of taking Glucosamine/ Chondroitin in addition to the fish oil/Omega3 I just started.

Has anyone experienced this after starting the diet, and did anything help? I'm a RN, so spend 12 hours a day 3x/week walking non-stop and this pain has been making my job even more rough than it already is! Plus I chase a toddler on my days off, so I want this pain gone. I'm going to try the chiropractor too, since I know my alignment is off, but I've not experienced anything like this when my alignment has been out of whack in the past.

I don't have any anwers but I have pain in my right hip!! The first time I thought I had over did it in PT but woke up today and the pain is back?? Hmmm I used to take Glucosamine but stopped when I started IP.:?: Maybe some one will come along with some info!! Have a great day!

annielulu 03-16-2011 10:51 PM

Hip Pain and IP
 
Unfortunatly I don't have any answers, but came here looking. I've been on IP for almost 4 weeks when my hip pain (in both hips) came. I have pain with every step I take. I've never really had hip pain before and am wondering if it could be from IP. I also can't hardly go up stairs or do anything without my calves feeling like they might seize up also. It's interesting that a few people have had this hip pain. Now I wish I knew what it was caused it.

Rocky Monarch 03-16-2011 10:59 PM

I don't have an answer either--I had the opposite experience.
Before IP I used to have very bad joint pain. I took glucosamine and it really helped me. About a month into IP I realized my knees were no longer making the scary noises when I walked down the steps and I quit taking it. The pain has never come back, my joints are in better shape than they were 10 years ago.

My sister is dairy intolerant and it manifests as joint pain...were you regularly eating a pretty good amount of dairy before (the packets have a lot of whey). If so, I guess that woudn't be it....sorry I don't have any other thoughts!

EatAnts 03-16-2011 11:04 PM

I've experienced just the opposite on IP. My back/neck/foot pain all went away while I was on IP but came back when I started adding carbs back into my diet. I take myristicol for my pain and it works wonders. It also helps your skin when losing weight.

iowahawkeyemom 03-16-2011 11:53 PM

I have been having terrible pain in my back since November. Don't know if it has anything to do with IP. Probably not. Went to a chiro and that made it even worse. Then I went and had xrays taken of my spine and they say it shows arthritis. Burning is terrible and it feels like it has a catch in it. When I take my shirt off over my head, I can hear my bones clicking in my spine. Sure hope it gets better soon! I'm tired of it!

emberleo 02-04-2014 06:48 PM

My joints in my arms and legs are crawling with discomfort and pain. This is why I only do IP for like 6 weeks at a time. I have about 17 lbs left to lose. I'm not real sure I have the tolerance for it this round. We'll see. Personally I think it's the soy. I generally eat plenty of dairy.

lisa32989 02-04-2014 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by emberleo (Post 4936417)
My joints in my arms and legs are crawling with discomfort and pain. This is why I only do IP for like 6 weeks at a time. I have about 17 lbs left to lose. I'm not real sure I have the tolerance for it this round. We'll see. Personally I think it's the soy. I generally eat plenty of dairy.

Then don't do the items with soy!
I don't consume the soy protein items.

Bellamack 02-04-2014 06:59 PM

It would be too soon to see an actual deficiency. Soy can cause joint pain, as well as gluten and many other things. I feel better on IP and I have OA and Fibro.

64peppergirl 02-04-2014 08:34 PM

About 6-8 weeks into IP I had major hip pain which actually was located on the side of my hip where my leg joins. After adjustments from a chiropractor I went to my massage therapist who told me I had bursitis. After doing exercises, etc. it finally was almost gone (after about a month) when the same thing hit me in my shoulder. That is almost cleared up now.
I don't know if IP had anything to do with it but my massage therapist told me if I have joint problems it could be related to not eating enough protein so I have recently started adding an extra egg white daily.

djs06 02-04-2014 09:38 PM

Yes. My first few days OP are full of joint pain. Knees and hips. Ibuprofen is the only thing that helps. I took it preemptively in the morning for my first few days his time around, and pain was better than last time. It was gone by day 5 or 6 for me.

Hang in there!

drd1961 02-04-2014 10:18 PM

IP and weight loss have helped me. The only thing that will fully help me is total hip replacement in both hips. I was born with hip dysplasia.

lisa32989 02-04-2014 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 64peppergirl (Post 4936469)
About 6-8 weeks into IP I had major hip pain which actually was located on the side of my hip where my leg joins. After adjustments from a chiropractor I went to my massage therapist who told me I had bursitis. After doing exercises, etc. it finally was almost gone (after about a month) when the same thing hit me in my shoulder. That is almost cleared up now.
I don't know if IP had anything to do with it but my massage therapist told me if I have joint problems it could be related to not eating enough protein so I have recently started adding an extra egg white daily.

Others have been told that the fat created pressure on the joints. With that going away, we have to increase muscle strength to stabilize the joints. Since increasing exercise improved yours, I'm inclined to agree with this theory.

64peppergirl 02-04-2014 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lisa32989 (Post 4936557)
Others have been told that the fat created pressure on the joints. With that going away, we have to increase muscle strength to stabilize the joints. Since increasing exercise improved yours, I'm inclined to agree with this theory.

Now that makes sense. Thanks for the info.

cassiemac 02-07-2014 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by EatAnts (Post 3761893)
I've experienced just the opposite on IP. My back/neck/foot pain all went away while I was on IP but came back when I started adding carbs back into my diet. I take myristicol for my pain and it works wonders. It also helps your skin when losing weight.

This is what happened to me as soon as I got on P3. The first of the year, I put myself back on P1 to "detox" and then gradually adding back types of carbs. I think that the main culprit is grain...not just gluten. The secondary culprit has been dairy. Havent added any fruit back yet, but don't think that'll be an issue.
Good luck!

Pattience 02-07-2014 07:02 PM

Why don't you get an X-ray and a proper diagnosis rather than wasting money on a whole lot of things that are not proven to achieve anything.

lisa32989 02-07-2014 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pattience (Post 4938797)
Why don't you get an X-ray and a proper diagnosis rather than wasting money on a whole lot of things that are not proven to achieve anything.

Like physical therapy? :?:

hysteria_625 02-10-2015 12:23 PM

Giving this thread a bump as I am experiencing really bad right hip pain while sitting. Walking, standing, laying down are not issues and I did not have this problem until this Sunday - 9 days in. I am prone to back problems and have seen a chiro on / off for over 10 years - but this is new. Before if I started experiencing this type of pain, my back would lock for a few days and gradually sort itself out (after a couple adjustments). This is 100% concentrated in my hip. I am glad to read there are / could be legitimate reasons this might be occurring - I was getting scarred it could be my kidney rebelling against ketosis.
I started doing my sciatic nerve yoga / stretching yesterday - and a warm heating pad helps a great deal.

oneuh2 02-10-2015 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hysteria_625 (Post 5130359)
Giving this thread a bump as I am experiencing really bad right hip pain while sitting. Walking, standing, laying down are not issues and I did not have this problem until this Sunday - 9 days in. I am prone to back problems and have seen a chiro on / off for over 10 years - but this is new. Before if I started experiencing this type of pain, my back would lock for a few days and gradually sort itself out (after a couple adjustments). This is 100% concentrated in my hip. I am glad to read there are / could be legitimate reasons this might be occurring - I was getting scarred it could be my kidney rebelling against ketosis.
I started doing my sciatic nerve yoga / stretching yesterday - and a warm heating pad helps a great deal.

I suffer from pinched nerve pain that runs from buttock down to shin, too... Not sciatic nerve but another close to it. It really began acting up for me after I had lost about 35 lbs.... I had a long drive to SC from VA... Thought I would cry from the pain.

My IP coach is also a fitness trainer and the IP business is part of a chiropractor practice. Trainer coach says that my body reacts to carrying less weight by changing how it is carrying my weight - alignments shift. I began seeing the chiropractor and my alignment is improved, but I am still feeling pain after about one hr in any car seat... Pain more in buttocks than hip.... And I notice that I need to work on building up my glutes... They have deflated into a very flat flabby area of little padding for me to sit on.... :(

I need to really embrace some physical activities that will help build muscle.... Losing weight feels good, but one does still need some booty, I think....:D

Briael 02-10-2015 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lisa32989 (Post 4936557)
Others have been told that the fat created pressure on the joints. With that going away, we have to increase muscle strength to stabilize the joints. Since increasing exercise improved yours, I'm inclined to agree with this theory.

This sounds accurate, could even be that you have had inflammation around the joint (protecting it from pain) that has now gone as a result of the detoxing via IP.

I had pain at the top front of the thigh where it joins the hip for the first week or so, but started walking at that stage and although it twinged for a couple of weeks it did disappear completely.

hysteria_625 02-10-2015 01:24 PM

I also saw a mention of soy? Being hypothyroid for 6 years now, I do my best to avoid products with soy & IP products are laden with soy, as are the EAS shakes I'm using as a replacement.
My coach doesn't seem to think there is a true link to problems with soy...but from searching around I see a few 3FC members have done IP soy-free and am wondering if the joint pain is soy-induced (as I just started the EAS drinks on Friday 2/6).

lisa32989 02-10-2015 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hysteria_625 (Post 5130381)
I also saw a mention of soy? Being hypothyroid for 6 years now, I do my best to avoid products with soy & IP products are laden with soy, as are the EAS shakes I'm using as a replacement.
My coach doesn't seem to think there is a true link to problems with soy...but from searching around I see a few 3FC members have done IP soy-free and am wondering if the joint pain is soy-induced (as I just started the EAS drinks on Friday 2/6).

Coaches really don't have much training and surely don't know if soy would be the cause. They are there to sell a product and most of the products contain soy. Of COURSE they're not going to think it is a problem!

Try cutting out soy (purchasing some other products) for about 21 days and see if you notice a difference. Sometimes an elimination diet will reveal many things unique to us as individuals. I'm not using soy protein b/c it makes my stomach have more problems.

If the use of soy protein is an issue and you still need RTD, try the Pure Protein brand shakes. They don't use soy protein. I use mostly powders and not RTD so that isn't as much as an issue. It is much easier to find soy-free powders.

hysteria_625 02-10-2015 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lisa32989 (Post 5130386)
Coaches really don't have much training and surely don't know if soy would be the cause. They are there to sell a product and most of the products contain soy. Of COURSE they're not going to think it is a problem!

Try cutting out soy (purchasing some other products) for about 21 days and see if you notice a difference. Sometimes an elimination diet will reveal many things unique to us as individuals. I'm not using soy protein b/c it makes my stomach have more problems.

If the use of soy protein is an issue and you still need RTD, try the Pure Protein brand shakes. They don't use soy protein. I use mostly powders and not RTD so that isn't as much as an issue. It is much easier to find soy-free powders.

Lol - it's like being told the calcium pills wouldn't be an issue either until I said "my hyperthyroid Rx has a label, from the pharmacy, that says to not take calcium for 4 hours"...then it was "oh, I see. We'll work around that then" :rolleyes:

Yah - the last 4 days have been interesting to say the least. I keep asking myself if it's possible to react so quickly...but then I think about my cousin who has celiac's and seeing the very quick reaction he had when he accidentally ingested gluten (from a supposedly gluten-free pizza).

My left knee has also started bothering me - it actually started before the hip. It's like my joints are flaring up / inflamed...:dizzy:

Yes, the grab & go shakes are convenient but I can live without them - thank you for the suggestion though!

Wegman's has a great soy-free vanilla protein powder I've used before - think it's time to grab a can!

Mitsu23 02-13-2015 03:57 PM

I had terrible knee pain before starting IP. The pain was so bad I thought I was going to need a knee replacement at 32 years old. 1-2 weeks into the protocol my knee pain and back pain were gone. I have since fallen off the wagon and my knee pain is back. Back on plan tomorrow

hysteria_625 02-13-2015 09:08 PM

Stopped soy (EAS shakes) and voila, hip and knee pain are gone! Interesting to know. So now how limited am I with the IP foods...?

hysteria_625 02-15-2015 08:12 PM

Looks Like I am going to be limited *sigh*

Ate the broccoli cheddar soup yesterday and after 2 days pain free, went to lay down last night and felt that nail in my hip again - its not as bad but it was achy today :( wonder if this intolerance would show up on an allergy test?


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