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Calgarygirlie 06-30-2010 11:06 PM

What do you wish your coach had told you???
 
Let me know folks!

mamaerinb 06-30-2010 11:21 PM

that the 3-4 lbs average loss per week is just that-an average. i was expecting that much every week and then had to realize that those losses are varied in body type and how much you stick to the program. i know i cheated a couple of times but i figured that with my in/out calories i'd still be losing 3 lbs per week-wrong! in all actuality i don't have much to lose compared to many others on ip and i just have to go with the flow and enjoy my various options is an ip friendly way:)

showgirlaz 07-01-2010 03:02 AM

WOW!
- you aren't allowed the occasional veggies til 70% lost (just my coach's rule)
- you aren't allowed the restricted foods until you reach goal (just my coach's rule)
- your birth control may be interfered with
- you may lose your hair, A LOT of your hair
- you will become constipated
- your skin could become dry, cracked, and bleeding
- you will get bored with the food, the veggies, the routine... stick with it
- it will be hard to treat a cold if you get one because of sugar in medicine
- some of your prescriptions will effect your average weight loss
- you will not lose 3 - 5 pounds every week it may or may not even be your average if you are on the program more than 3 months.
- your menstrual cycle will go through changes and may not be what you expect
- you will feel horrible at times as your body adjusts and corrects, but you will get through if you stick it out
- you may reach a point you gag on the salads you have to eat :)
- you will crave things you have never liked and come to hate things you use to love
- you will have strange dreams of eating off plan foods
- eating out will become boring because it will feel like you can only eat the same things, ANYWHERE :)
- you will want to walk up to strangers and tell them all about how Ideal Protein can change their life... think twice before you act on that impulse.
- you will have times that you will lose many more inches than pounds and that is OK! Weight loss is not just about the number on the scale but how your body shape is changing and how your clothes fit.
- You will want to give up. DON'T! Write down your reason and inspiration for doing this today and read it everyday until you get to your goal.

That is just a few that came to my mind! I guess there was a lot I wish I was told!

Linden 07-01-2010 05:45 AM

This topic is such a great idea! I haven't been around long enough to even know what I don't know. And Carla's list is so comprehensive. [Although that bit about hair loss scares me witless. Does that mean we should eat more MUFAs?] My ultra fine hair and skinny bones are the only thin things I have going for me right now, and I'd like to keep them around for a while.

But I learned something this morning that may be helpful. On the sheet called "My Progress Success," the last column reads % water. What it really means is % lean muscle mass, which makes a lot more sense to me.

Something else I learned today. Puppies, no matter how ardently they try to convince you to the contrary, do not like kale. But it's kind of fun watching the expression on their face as that try to gum it into taste-worthy submission.

showgirlaz 07-01-2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Linden (Post 3365772)
This topic is such a great idea! I haven't been around long enough to even know what I don't know. And Carla's list is so comprehensive. [Although that bit about hair loss scares me witless. Does that mean we should eat more MUFAs?] My ultra fine hair and skinny bones are the only thin things I have going for me right now, and I'd like to keep them around for a while.

But I learned something this morning that may be helpful. On the sheet called "My Progress Success," the last column reads % water. What it really means is % lean muscle mass, which makes a lot more sense to me.

Something else I learned today. Puppies, no matter how ardently they try to convince you to the contrary, do not like kale. But it's kind of fun watching the expression on their face as that try to gum it into taste-worthy submission.

:)

Good Morning! Ok, questions!

What are MUFA's???? Yes, I am clueless!

What is the "my progress success" sheet? I don't have that! AND, what do you do with it????

PUPPY??? What kind? What age?


Regarding hair, apparently, based on the trantiendiet.com page under adverse effects you will find many things that effect people on the diet. One of these is hair loss. THE GOOD THING.. it is supposed to return to normal after you have lost the weight. The downside it happens. It is there mostly for women. It seems to effect at least 8% of people. It usually happens in between the end of the second month and the fourth month. It effects mostly people with very large amounts of weight to lose and those who are on the program 10 weeks or more. IT IS NORMAL to occur on any rapid weight loss diet. It has been seen to happen following lap band and gastric bypass too. Actually it can occur following surgery, trauma, any severe stress that is felt physically. In medical journals, it is reported to occur most often in people who lose 20 pounds or more in one month. It is often related to a nutritional deficiency but, not always related. It is best if you do lose a great mass of hair quickly as it indicates that you will have a greater probability of return to normal in the 6 months to a year AFTER you stabilize your weight loss. The reason for this is hair grows in cycles and we have hair falling out all the time and other hair in a mid phase or a new growth stage. The full cycle of all phases takes about 6 months. This sudden "shock" causes more hair in the mid phases to convert to shed stage and that causes the sudden loss. It actually isn't horrible, (it looks and feels it though), and when you get the sudden large loss it indicates your hair grows normal and those healthy hair follicles will go back to doing their job as soon as the new growth has advances far enough to be mid phase again.

There is no way to know who is going to be effected. There is uncertainty how many people notice and then report the hair loss. There is uncertainty how many clinics/coachs know of, address, and share the hair lost info.

It is ok. For me, NOW, it is fine. I started taking a hair multi that was high in choline/inositol which were/are missing from our vitamins and limited in our diet. FOR ME it seemed the answer. I have thinned hair still. It is no longer thinning the way it was. I learned other possible vitamin issues can be:
iron, magnesium, any of the spectrum of B or so called B vitamin, vitamin C, selenium, and/oromega oil defiiciencies, vitamin F deficiency (aka... ALA, LA deficiency).


Calgary!

-another thing I wish my coach had told me... you can look at this page (see www.trantiendiet.com), join a forum at 3fc, sign up for a group on facebook, or join the forum on ideal to go.com

-another one!! Here are a bunch of recipes to help you get through this week. And the next week do the same!

salesgod 07-01-2010 03:31 PM

My coach didn't tell me she has individual packets for sale. Getting through 7 packets of the nasty berry yogurt and 7 packets of awful chicken soup about killed me that first week, and made me want to quit. Once I found foods I liked, I was fine. But it was an expensive adventure on flavortown's west side...

Calgarygirlie 07-01-2010 03:43 PM

arghh..my coach refuses to sell individuals. I had a few boxes of nasty as well. Good thing everyone has different taste, so I gave my friend those ones :P

I really wish my coach had told just how much of a difference to my weight loss it would make eating restricteds. I have all but cut them out now.

Linden 07-01-2010 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by showgirlaz (Post 3366259)
:)


What are MUFA's???? Yes, I am clueless!

What is the "my progress success" sheet? I don't have that! AND, what do you do with it????

PUPPY??? What kind? What age?

Thanks so, so much for the information. So MUFAs -- monounsaturated fatty acids -- the really good fat, as some say. The kind you get in abundance in olive oil and avocados.

The "success sheet?" I was sent the file and have filled it in each of the two weeks I've completed. This is sort of what it looks like although it wrapped when I copied it, and the Ideal Protein Logo won't copy.

My Success Progress Chart
I Know I Can!
Dieter Handout – Initial Consultation
Date Weight Achieved Chest Size Waist Wrist Hip Size Arm Size Thigh Size % Fat % Lean Muscle % Fat Lost

And the puppy. Could you hear the tone of my voice change, melt? He's a 6 month old Papillon. What looks like a blob of black on white in my avatar is really one puppy leg sticking out. The rest of him is wrapped around by a male Oriental Shorthair who will be 18 on Sunday.

And thanks again for the super information.

Linden 07-01-2010 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Calgarygirlie (Post 3366645)
I really wish my coach had told just how much of a difference to my weight loss it would make eating restricteds. I have all but cut them out now.

Oh brother. Me, too! In fact, I was told to eat one everyday, which I dutifully did for 15 days until I started to gain weight, on fewer than 800 calories a day!!!!

kplus80 07-01-2010 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Linden (Post 3366818)
Oh brother. Me, too! In fact, I was told to eat one everyday, which I dutifully did for 15 days until I started to gain weight, on fewer than 800 calories a day!!!!

I was told the same thing! I asked her about the Phase I sheet where it says to not have them in weeks 1-3, and she said it was an old sheet and was fine now.

I also wish my coach had told me about carb intake per day. And about exercise - she hasn't mentioned exercise at all.. if I should, if I shouldn't, when I can, what it will do to my weight loss.. still not sure on that stuff.

And about the not everyone losing 3-5 lbs per week thing even if you don't cheat.. didn't know that.

showgirlaz 07-01-2010 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linden (Post 3366704)
Thanks so, so much for the information. So MUFAs -- monounsaturated fatty acids -- the really good fat, as some say. The kind you get in abundance in olive oil and avocados.

The "success sheet?" I

And the puppy. ... He's a 6 month old Papillon.

And thanks again for the super information.

You're welcome! Good to know, MUFA! :) Probably the omega oils will help you! I use Udo's Oil and Country life. I mix it up because I want the Omega 9 from fish oil but don't want to much fish oil because, I have been reading lately that some fish oils build up and can cause toxicity. I have recently been looking in to krill oil as an option.

Interesting sheet! I don't have that. Maybe my coach fills it out for me??

You gotta love a puppy! Papillons are so cute! My sister had one and it was a total love! I have a 6 month old black standard poodle, Chanel.

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Originally Posted by Linden (Post 3366818)
Oh brother. Me, too! In fact, I was told to eat one everyday, which I dutifully did for 15 days until I started to gain weight, on fewer than 800 calories a day!!!!

OH NO!!! I hope you have stopped having or have limited having the restricted items now!

Linden 07-02-2010 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by showgirlaz (Post 3367063)

You gotta love a puppy! AND

OH NO!!! I hope you have stopped having or have limited having the restricted items now!

You couldn't be more right about the puppy. I'd post a picture but I can't find the cable for my camera. I think it disappeared into that great barrel that airport inspection personnel gather containing all the things that never got back into luggage.

And YES!!! I have stopped having the restricted items but I still weigh more than I did on the day before my second weigh in. Head's up, you all. I, too, read about people and how they handled restricted foods. But I figured my coach knew what was going on or she wouldn't have sent 2 weeks , or fourteen packets, worth of restricted food. The moral? Trust your instincts and listen to the people who've been there and done that.

salesgod 07-02-2010 12:18 PM

About the restricted IP foods...

I started using the restricted foods in week 5, and I'd have to say my loss has continued steadily even after adding them. I'm a guy and I've been losing at least 5 lbs/wk. except for the week where I did a planned cheat, when I only lost 4.

What I can't speak to is whether or not I would have lost more by eliminating them. Perhaps I'll give that a try after my dinner cheat on my anniversary next week to see if I can speed up the loss again.

That said, I only use the restricted items on days where I'm doing a good amount of exercise. On those days, I typically have 4 packets, including 1 restricted item like one of the bars. Saturday mornings have been nice for pancakes, but that's getting a little old.

I wish my coach was a little more adamant about avoiding restricteds.

shrinkingsusie 07-04-2010 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Linden (Post 3366818)
Oh brother. Me, too! In fact, I was told to eat one everyday, which I dutifully did for 15 days until I started to gain weight, on fewer than 800 calories a day!!!!

Im glad I read this... I did the whole "no restricted foods for first 2-3 weeks" and I'm going to pick up my 4th weeks food tomorrow.. I'm going to try and stay away from them now! Or limit myself to one or two a week!

BrittStar027 07-06-2010 10:49 AM

Well, i was told that i could have seltzer and/or sparkling water by one coach at my center. So i was having some every day (about a small bottle) in addition to my water. Well weighed in last Friday and had only lost two pounds in two weeks (no cheats). I almost started crying. After some questioning, my diet coach thinks it was the seltzer and sparkling water. I was so upset.

I'm still being pretty strict with the diet. If i want something different i'll have half a restricted bar for snack (i'll have my two non-restricted packets throughout the day). I'm drinking a ton of plain water and getting in all my supplements and oil. I weighed myself this morning and have not noticed a change in my weight since Friday (not close to my TOM either). I'm getting pretty irritated/upset.

I'm probably just overreacting, but i'm frustrated. Any ideas or suggestions?

meshell5488 07-06-2010 03:19 PM

So much differing information about do's and don'ts - my coach is so different - first off I have to have 5 packets per day with 1 restricted a must (since the day I started). In fact, if I don't have 5 I get yelled at because my muscle mass has decreased and have now been told that a person of my size may actually need 6 packets a day - and she's threatened to drop me from the program if I continue to lose muscle mass and not eat the required amount of packets. I've been told to eat extra veggies and proteins and eat an egg if I have to to insure I get enough protein in. And yes, my hairs been falling out - getting quite a thin spot on top of my head! I get so confused over what to do or not to do - everone's coach is so different - isn't there supposed to be one standard protocol? I can hardly afford the 5 packets a day, and now to add a 6th - why so much differeing information out there? I'm soooo confused! Wish there was some agreement to what was standard protocol for all coaches to tell us.

shrinkingsusie 07-06-2010 03:41 PM

6 a day?? That is double the amount that I am having... I have three packs a day and one prepared meal, and was told that if I am still hungry, have another pack. And making sure one is restricted?? Sounds fishy!:dizzy:

meshell5488 07-06-2010 03:50 PM

I know it sounds fishy - but I've been averaging 3 pounds a week and with the threat of being told I can't stay on program, I'm worried. Its the only diet that's worked for me and I'm having a hard time affording 5 packs as it is - can't believe you guys are only having 3! what a huge difference in protocol.

showgirlaz 07-06-2010 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by meshell5488 (Post 3373634)
I know it sounds fishy - but I've been averaging 3 pounds a week and with the threat of being told I can't stay on program, I'm worried. Its the only diet that's worked for me and I'm having a hard time affording 5 packs as it is - can't believe you guys are only having 3! what a huge difference in protocol.

You could contact IP's main office from the website and see what they say. I know that they try to take into consideration different health issues and make up for each person. Some Drs and nutritionist try to keep to a better calorie ratio so that you don't go into starvation. It is possible, because of where your starting weight is, you are dealing with some who is worried about you going into starvation, wasting your own muscle (this includes heart muscle) and creating long term problems by participating in a very low calorie diet.

meshell5488 07-06-2010 04:36 PM

thank you - that makes sense doesn't it!

salesgod 07-07-2010 11:47 AM

According to my doc, the two things that pull you out of ketosis are too many carbs and too little protein. If your body moves into starvation mode and starts burning muscle for fuel, then you'll come out of ketosis. At least that's my understanding. Thoughts?

gettinglean 07-07-2010 12:22 PM

I wish my coach would have told me that I would get up about 6 times a night to pee!!! I go about every hour or so... I usually fall right back to sleep but it seems like I just laid down and suddenly my bladder is full again. I try not to drink anything after 8pm but it still seems like i am constantly in the bathroom all night.... I guess it is a good thing????

Lady5andy 07-07-2010 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gettinglean (Post 3374974)
I wish my coach would have told me that I would get up about 6 times a night to pee!!! I go about every hour or so... I usually fall right back to sleep but it seems like I just laid down and suddenly my bladder is full again. I try not to drink anything after 8pm but it still seems like i am constantly in the bathroom all night.... I guess it is a good thing????

I'm trying not to drink anything except my protein snack (and water for the pills) after 5 pm. I'm getting all my water at work between 8h30 and 16h30. It seems at lot for a little amount of time, but I prefer going a lot to the bathroom in the day than when I'm sleeping. Hope this help!

rinoa1823 07-07-2010 01:19 PM

i wish my coaches told me they were more salesmen than coaches...i ask them a question and its ..."oh well we have a pill for that"...meh i just use them to purchase product now...if I didnt have this forum I would be totally lost

meshell5488 07-07-2010 01:27 PM

Spoke to my coach more about it today-because of my make up she wants to insure I lose no muscle mass and with the decrease I had because of increased activities (and energy) thats what happened - fat went up and muscle mass went down. The big misconception (in my brain anyhow) was that I would lose more each week if I ate less packets, and thats absolutely not the truth - apparently the extra protein from the extra packet or two insures that I stay in ketosis and I burn the fat not the muscle - she wants to make sure when I reach my goal I have all my muscle mass because thats what will keep burning fat - does that make sense? I feel better. The number or packets really shouldn't impact anyone's weight loss staying in ketosis is important and insuring muscle mass stays intact as well - and I forgot, and as was pointed out, your heart is a muscle too! I think I understand a little better now. Thanks for everyone's input.

I'm svelting! 09-11-2010 07:57 AM

Follow the mixing instructions exactly ...i.e. use cold water, mix, then heat the mix.

Little old smarty pants here thought she'd use a shortcut. I dispensed hot water from a coffee machine at work onto the cappucino drink powder. What I got was cappucino-flavoured hot water with cooked protein floaters! Not quite disgusting but close.

Marionm 09-11-2010 10:01 AM

I think the exercise piece and the fertility issues would have been something I would have liked a little more information about, but I don't have a problem getting information when I ask questions. She does seem a little shy about some topics which I find cute cause I'm not very shy anymore.

As for the restricted foods, she was pretty lenient from the start though I didn't have any the first week, I did have a few the second. I think I have had pretty good weight loss with them; however, I do notice that I am much larger than a great deal of the women here, so that may make a difference. For me, 185 pounds is probably about 20% body fat and I see that many of you are starting there. I was also active dancing 3 nights a week going into the program though I've been sidelined for an injury pretty much since I started. I have to wonder if the restricted foods make a bigger difference if you are smaller or have less muscle mass to begin with.

showgirlaz 09-11-2010 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Marionm (Post 3476170)

As for the restricted foods, she was pretty lenient from the start though I didn't have any the first week, I did have a few the second. I think I have had pretty good weight loss with them; however, I do notice that I am much larger than a great deal of the women here, so that may make a difference. For me, 185 pounds is probably about 20% body fat and I see that many of you are starting there. I was also active dancing 3 nights a week going into the program though I've been sidelined for an injury pretty much since I started. I have to wonder if the restricted foods make a bigger difference if you are smaller or have less muscle mass to begin with.

She was probably lenient about the restricted foods because, AS OF THIS SUMMER, Ideal Protein changed its protocol for Phase1.

Restricted foods are allowable during week one if it is seen as necessary for the client. The are allowed for all clients beginning week 2.

biggirl86 09-11-2010 11:31 PM

This forum is defenitely a huge help for me, I am sooo glad to find you guys. I am still a newbie, but i've already found some things that are not cute about the diet, and my coach did not told me even though I can still deal with it.

The following are:
    • going to the bathroom avery 5 mnts to p
    • gum bleeding
    • weigh lose of about 2 pounds per week form week 2 on!!:(
    • all the drinks except form the chocolate and the capuccino are bad:(
    • I can use the WF dressings and products
    • b the way I am also havin weird dreams or night mares about me braking the diet! or other funny things!
    • hunger may go away, but not cravings!!
    • ways to accomodate 64oz water in my body a day when I am so busy
    • I was in ketosis the first week and it will CONTINUE!!:
    • I cannot eat can tuna
    • More motivation KEEP GOING YOU CAN DO IT DONT GIVE UP!!!!!

My coach dont care:(

showgirlaz 09-12-2010 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by biggirl86 (Post 3476962)
This forum is defenitely a huge help for me, I am sooo glad to find you guys. I am still a newbie, but i've already found some things that are not cute about the diet, and my coach did not told me even though I can still deal with it.

The following are:
    • going to the bathroom avery 5 mnts to p
    • gum bleeding
    • weigh lose of about 2 pounds per week form week 2 on!!:(
    • all the drinks except form the chocolate and the capuccino are bad:(
    • I can use the WF dressings and products
    • b the way I am also havin weird dreams or night mares about me braking the diet! or other funny things!
    • hunger may go away, but not cravings!!
    • ways to accomodate 64oz water in my body a day when I am so busy
    • I was in ketosis the first week and it will CONTINUE!!:
    • I cannot eat can tuna
    • More motivation KEEP GOING YOU CAN DO IT DONT GIVE UP!!!!!

My coach dont care:(

I hope your coach will care. :( Mention the bleeding gums to them. That really shouldn't happen. Cravings will eventually go away. Hunger may not. Your tastes are likely to change and things may become more flavorful to you. The nightmares... yes, they are pretty crazy! :)

A nice thing is YOU CAN EAT THE TUNA... my coach ate plenty of it while he did the diet. I don't care for canned tuna but, I have used it once in awhile.

AND, YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN DO THIS!! :) DON'T GIVE UP! :)

shelleydar 09-12-2010 12:44 PM

That I would be hungry, that my hair would fall out, and that I would get really grouchy around week 12.

rox824 09-12-2010 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by meshell5488 (Post 3373582)
So much differing information about do's and don'ts - my coach is so different - first off I have to have 5 packets per day with 1 restricted a must (since the day I started). In fact, if I don't have 5 I get yelled at because my muscle mass has decreased and have now been told that a person of my size may actually need 6 packets a day - and she's threatened to drop me from the program if I continue to lose muscle mass and not eat the required amount of packets. I've been told to eat extra veggies and proteins and eat an egg if I have to to insure I get enough protein in. And yes, my hairs been falling out - getting quite a thin spot on top of my head! I get so confused over what to do or not to do - everone's coach is so different - isn't there supposed to be one standard protocol? I can hardly afford the 5 packets a day, and now to add a 6th - why so much differeing information out there? I'm soooo confused! Wish there was some agreement to what was standard protocol for all coaches to tell us.

I'm thinking you need to find a different coach. My husband started at 370 pounds and was told to eat 4 packets a day, his choice. No mention of restricted or non restricted. In fact, the first 2 weeks all he had was the chocolate drink and mushroom soup, plus our meat meal in the evenings. in the third week, he added the caramel bars, once a day as a snack, to replace one of the chocolate drinks. In 11 weeks, he has lost almost 70 pounds and is doing fine. No sign of muscle loss. Good luck!

I'm svelting! 09-12-2010 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by meshell5488 (Post 3373582)
In fact, if I don't have 5 I get yelled at because my muscle mass has decreased and have now been told that a person of my size may actually need 6 packets a day - and she's threatened to drop me from the program if I continue to lose muscle mass and not eat the required amount of packets.

Ummm, your coach yells at you? I think that might be acceptable behaviour from a drill sergeant at a military bootcamp, but an Ideal Protein "coach"? This "coach" needs to get her butt kicked from here to kingdom come.

Yelling and berating doesn't work. Don't they think we've yelled at and berated ourselves enough by now? And has it worked to keep us from doing things we know are sub-optimal?
If yelling and berating did work, imagine the world we'd live in:
  • children would always have their homework done
  • nobody would be overweight or addicted to substances
  • there'd never be any fights anywhere about anything because the yellee would always back down to the yeller
  • and, most importantly, people wouldn't cut me off when I'm driving! ;)

Maybe this comment should go in a not-yet-existing thread entitled, "What your coach needs to know about coaching."

showgirlaz 09-12-2010 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meshell5488 (Post 3373582)
So much differing information about do's and don'ts - my coach is so different - first off I have to have 5 packets per day with 1 restricted a must (since the day I started). In fact, if I don't have 5 I get yelled at because my muscle mass has decreased and have now been told that a person of my size may actually need 6 packets a day - and she's threatened to drop me from the program if I continue to lose muscle mass and not eat the required amount of packets. I've been told to eat extra veggies and proteins and eat an egg if I have to to insure I get enough protein in. And yes, my hairs been falling out - getting quite a thin spot on top of my head! I get so confused over what to do or not to do - everone's coach is so different - isn't there supposed to be one standard protocol? I can hardly afford the 5 packets a day, and now to add a 6th - why so much differeing information out there? I'm soooo confused! Wish there was some agreement to what was standard protocol for all coaches to tell us.

Quote:

Originally Posted by meshell5488 (Post 3373634)
I know it sounds fishy - but I've been averaging 3 pounds a week and with the threat of being told I can't stay on program, I'm worried. Its the only diet that's worked for me and I'm having a hard time affording 5 packs as it is - can't believe you guys are only having 3! what a huge difference in protocol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by meshell5488 (Post 3373713)
thank you - that makes sense doesn't it!

Quote:

Originally Posted by meshell5488 (Post 3375130)
Spoke to my coach more about it today-because of my make up she wants to insure I lose no muscle mass and with the decrease I had because of increased activities (and energy) thats what happened - fat went up and muscle mass went down. The big misconception (in my brain anyhow) was that I would lose more each week if I ate less packets, and thats absolutely not the truth - apparently the extra protein from the extra packet or two insures that I stay in ketosis and I burn the fat not the muscle - she wants to make sure when I reach my goal I have all my muscle mass because thats what will keep burning fat - does that make sense? I feel better. The number or packets really shouldn't impact anyone's weight loss staying in ketosis is important and insuring muscle mass stays intact as well - and I forgot, and as was pointed out, your heart is a muscle too! I think I understand a little better now. Thanks for everyone's input.


Hey Meshell! How are you? I know it has been almost 2 months since these posts, how is it going with your coach? How are you feeling with the added protein?

biggirl86 09-12-2010 06:58 PM

Carla, thanx for the motivation U R so good on this that you should be a coach in the future, you have a lot of knowledge about nutrition, and know pretty much everything about the diet, probably more than my coach:( and yes the nightmares are crazy and when I wake up I just say Than God it was just a dream!!

JKF 09-13-2010 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by biggirl86 (Post 3477778)
Carla, thanx for the motivation U R so good on this that you should be a coach in the future, you have a lot of knowledge about nutrition, and know pretty much everything about the diet, probably more than my coach:( and yes the nightmares are crazy and when I wake up I just say Than God it was just a dream!!

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I was just thinking how supportive and postive Carla is and how much I appreciate being able to learn from her... :) Thank you Carla. I'm an IP newbie and am so glad you're on this forum and share your knowledge so freely.

Marionm 09-13-2010 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by showgirlaz (Post 3476408)
She was probably lenient about the restricted foods because, AS OF THIS SUMMER, Ideal Protein changed its protocol for Phase1.

Restricted foods are allowable during week one if it is seen as necessary for the client. The are allowed for all clients beginning week 2.

Well, that would make sense then, Carla. I haven't been disappointed with the results at all and I haven't had as many of the negative side-effects as some seem to. I had already cut back on carbs for 4 months before I began IP, just not to this level so I suspect that made it easier.

salesgod 09-13-2010 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by I'm svelting! (Post 3477432)
  • most importantly, people wouldn't cut me off when I'm driving! ;)

I just put on my toque and I'm headed your way, eh. My plan is to find you and cut you off in traffic! :p

ChelseaKate 09-13-2010 04:13 PM

Today is my first day on the site. Showgirlaz, i find your posts so inspirational!
I started IP sept 1st at 222 and have lost 13 pounds as of today (209). I go tomorrow and did not know not having a restricted item per day was an option. My "coach" said one per day (bars, soy puffs, ridges). Tomorrow I will only get the drinks. I'm hoping to amp-up the weight loss.
I'm in great need of inspiration, my coach does not help at all. i walk in, weigh in, she measures and i pick out food and pay. end of story. I'm only 22 and while all of my friends are gathering for food and drink i'm holding back for the next 7-8 weeks in hopes of reaching my goal. Any Help would be appreciated, I NEED IT!
Thanks! I'm so glad i found this!

biggirl86 09-13-2010 08:34 PM

Hi Chelsea.

I am also new to this forum and to the diet (day11), and found a lot of help with the motivation end experience share by Carla (showgirlaz). My coach is the same way or even worst than yours, she doesn't meassure me. so I just go there every 2 weeks because is far from my house, and I get weigh pay for the food, and see you in 2 wks. But dont't worry Chelsea, this forum is the best! and you"ll find the support and information you need to keep going. GOOD LUCK!


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